doctor who goodbye's : Susan Foreman

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2012
  • Susan Foreman

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  • @aec9174
    @aec9174 Před 2 lety +29

    Peter Capaldi, during his run as the Doctor, really wanted to do an episode where the Doctor would find Susan, but it never happened, for whatever reason. He did, however, have her picture on his desk at the university in series 10, along with River's. So at least it showed that he hadn't forgotten Susan and still missed her. 😢

    • @tompearce5418
      @tompearce5418 Před rokem +3

      Yeah, except he preferred to remember her as a teenager and not the adult he saw in The Five Doctors.

  • @tomnorton4277
    @tomnorton4277 Před rokem +10

    You can see how much William Hartnell loved Carol Ann Ford in this scene. They were close friends in real life, so he's only half acting here. He knew this was her last episode, so he was savouring what little time they had left together.

  • @Sasfoot
    @Sasfoot Před rokem +4

    As much as we all remember Susan's emotions and The Doctor's goodbye speech, the most defining moment for me was when Ian & Barbara were looking at The Doctor and without saying anything, they all knew it was time to leave Susan behind.

  • @willowwhisps1339
    @willowwhisps1339 Před 6 lety +38

    I wanna see Susan meet the modern doctor....

    • @stephaniefaypage8028
      @stephaniefaypage8028 Před 4 lety +3

      Me too

    • @arthurvasey
      @arthurvasey Před 4 lety +4

      What would she make of “him” as “he” is now - a woman?
      “Grandf... Grandmother?”.

    • @willowwhisps1339
      @willowwhisps1339 Před 4 lety +6

      @@arthurvasey ikr 😂 although to be fair, it looks like regenerating between genders is pretty normal for time Lord's. I think the real question would be "why the f*** did you wait so long to visit me?"

    • @AmandaTomkins
      @AmandaTomkins Před 3 lety +3

      In the audio he’s already met up with Susan in the series, which I have listened to hundreds of times. Plus she has her own adventures during the time war. (Big Finish Productions)

    • @peterwilliams2531
      @peterwilliams2531 Před 3 lety +1

      She met 5 in The Five Doctors. but it would be nice to see her again (and Chesterton...even for 5 minutes)

  • @chrisgilbert9407
    @chrisgilbert9407 Před 6 lety +24

    I love the music when David comforts Susan during the end ❤

  • @gallantlystreaming2378
    @gallantlystreaming2378 Před 4 lety +15

    This scene could not have been played any better. I love it and Susan is one of my favorite companions ever.

  • @wholockisamazing1612
    @wholockisamazing1612 Před 9 lety +62

    The thing that nobody realized is that Susan was left on Earth so she couldn't of died from the timewar which is probably why Earth is the Doctor's favourite planet because he's still searching for her.

    • @danielwilliamson6180
      @danielwilliamson6180 Před 8 lety +5

      +Wholock is amazing It's possible Susan is alive and she could regenerate.

    • @Howyaduing
      @Howyaduing Před 8 lety +4

      She probably was recalled to Galifrey to fight in the time war as the doctor stated in Gridlock before he saved Galifrey he mention that all of his family and friends were dead

    • @DonnyDunne
      @DonnyDunne Před 7 lety +2

      Gallifrey burns no more.

    • @KlausarMinecraft
      @KlausarMinecraft Před 7 lety

      There was no timewar at that time

    • @gabrielmero22
      @gabrielmero22 Před 6 lety +4

      It was revealed in "All Hands On Deck" one of the Big Finish audio dramas that Susan went to Gallifrey to help fight in the Time War. I do believe the Big Finish dramas are considered canon.

  • @shahani6037
    @shahani6037 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Im rewatching all the CW and this made me cry man. Hartnell was so wonderful as the Doctor tbh. All the nuances of an old man and a child, he embodied them-- this is also why Capaldi is my favorite New Who Doctor. He is like a revamped version of Hartnell. I wish they'd tie up the River/Doctor era and reveal to us that Bill is indeed the Doctor and River and Susan's descendant. 😢

  • @MrJdcirbo
    @MrJdcirbo Před 3 lety +23

    And now we see why he has such a fondness for female companions. Not for some perverted, physical attraction. But because he's chasing that moment he told Susan goodbye. He longs for his granddaughter's company, and I think he still questions himself as to if he made the right choice. The stuff with Rose and River were complete surprises to him, I'm sure. SO NOT what he's about. Lol

    • @stuartcastle2814
      @stuartcastle2814 Před rokem +1

      I like both old and new Who (every Doctor has some good stories, IMO), but I'm not a great fan of the need to put the Doctor in an actual relationship with his (or her) companions. I don't hate it, but I preferred the way the old doctor never even seemed to consider romance. It added a slightly sad aspect to the character, as if he could experience some emotional attachment, but could only watch as his companions formed relationships that were more than just friendship..
      That said, I've also heard that the reason that they made Susan the Doctor's granddaughter was because they wanted a pretty young woman to attract the male audience, but thought it would look a little inappropriate if she was just a random teenager living in a box with an old man.

    • @tompearce5418
      @tompearce5418 Před rokem +1

      Misses the mentoring relationship he had with his granddaughter.

    • @michaellaplant8659
      @michaellaplant8659 Před rokem

      I agree. One big problem with the modern attempt to artificially introduce a romantic Doctor/companion "love interest" situation into some Nu-Who stories in recent years, is that such an approach violates the implied role that companions traditionally had in Doctor Who -- namely, they served as a sort of "stand-in" for the viewer, trying to relate to & understand the Doctor's motives and actions. That role, or "function", if you will, is mostly lost whenever any hint of a romance comes into play. I remember an interview with Jon Pertwee, in which he explained that the Doctor has an "avuncular" ["uncle - like"] kind of relationship with each of his assistants/companions....and that's a spot-on description (at least in my view). Thanks.

    • @BrandonVout
      @BrandonVout Před rokem +1

      ​@@michaellaplant8659 Seeing Ace again made me realize how much I've missed the Doctor having a teenage companion to mentor and prepare for the adult world after they leave.

    • @michaellaplant8659
      @michaellaplant8659 Před rokem

      @@BrandonVout Absolutely. I agree with that sentiment completely ! 👍❣️

  • @NikitaBenCarter
    @NikitaBenCarter Před 2 lety +6

    I still hope that Carol Ann Ford will return to the tardis in the new series. Russell T Davis are you listening ❤

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 Před 8 lety +27

    5:55 One of the saddest moments in Doctor Who history.

  • @peterpowis4145
    @peterpowis4145 Před 6 lety +17

    this scene gets me every time I watch it :'$ - one of the best Doctor Who goodbyes - it's more pertinent because William Hartnell didn't want Carole Ann Ford to leave Doctor Who - so glad they gave the time to write and screen a proper goodbye instead of rushing it - some other Doctor Who companions who left were never given for a proper goodbye. Tegan's goodbye was very brief - Dodo didn't even get a chance to say goodbye - wish we were told more info though on the companions who left - love the Sarah Jane adventures "Death of the Doctor" because at the end, Sarah Jane mentions a few of them and what they went on to do....

    • @stephaniepage4334
      @stephaniepage4334 Před 2 lety +2

      Same

    • @SammEater
      @SammEater Před rokem +1

      I am still sad that Leela never got a proper goodbye like this. Really rushed to throw her out of the cast.

  • @domonicredmond1894
    @domonicredmond1894 Před 3 lety +6

    The first departure is always the hardest!

  • @jakechandley6241
    @jakechandley6241 Před 4 lety +3

    I’ve watched from an unearthly child up to this point. It really has an impact on you

  • @qoaa
    @qoaa Před 11 lety +11

    Poor doc, always driving the tardis with the emergency brakes on so it made that grinding noise.

  • @LightLife4
    @LightLife4 Před 3 měsíci

    The first goodbye is always the hardest. Carole wanted to leave as she wasn't allowed to develop her character

  • @AmandaTomkins
    @AmandaTomkins Před 3 lety +3

    In the audio he’s already met up with Susan in the series, which I have listened to hundreds of times. Plus she has her own adventures during the time war. (Big Finish Productions) Susan’s war is by far my favorite story with Susan and the Doctor!

  • @That_Random_Bloke
    @That_Random_Bloke Před 2 lety +2

    Hartnell is just perfect

  • @johngurnhill8743
    @johngurnhill8743 Před 4 lety +5

    Love her as a companion

  • @anrecedinghairline6150
    @anrecedinghairline6150 Před 2 lety +1

    I'd love it if Susan was the timeless child instead of the doctor. Would give this yearning for a time and place meaning considering what she has gone through, even unknowingly in the past.

  • @thesnakeman8006
    @thesnakeman8006 Před 10 měsíci

    5:15-5:33. GREATEST line ever written

  • @ChrisJohnsonChannel
    @ChrisJohnsonChannel Před 8 měsíci

    So sad… that feeling of losing somebody

  • @excrutiated
    @excrutiated Před 9 lety +7

    8th doctor big finish audio plays will tell you all you need to know about what happened susan . start with an earthly child then realative dimensions and end with to the death/lucie miller
    .... and since the night of the doctor red button special with 8th doctor mcann in which he mentions lucie miller ... all those audios are now cannon .... more or less

  • @rachel-not-again-armamus89
    @rachel-not-again-armamus89 Před 9 lety +14

    oh i wish we knew what happens to susan after this

    • @Althalus2010
      @Althalus2010 Před 8 lety +5

      +Rachel -Not-Again- Armamus We do. Both the book "Legacy of the Daleks" and the Big Finish audio drama "An Earthly Child" offer follow-ups, both of which are equally plausible though An Earthly Child is more likely to be canon as Big Finish is pretty much considered canon.

    • @danielwilliamson6180
      @danielwilliamson6180 Před 6 lety +9

      Would be good if Carol Ann Ford returned as Susan and address if Susan can also regenerate too. Good if Carol Ann Ford could play her again before she passes on.

    • @AmandaTomkins
      @AmandaTomkins Před 3 lety +1

      In the audio he’s already met up with Susan in the series, which I have listened to hundreds of times. Plus she has her own adventures during the time war.

  • @aemiliacarolphonetube9749

    Sad that Susan's actor is the last of the original cast alive now.

  • @jazmorrison9030
    @jazmorrison9030 Před 3 lety +1

    doctor should go back for susan one day

  • @Ceelea1
    @Ceelea1 Před 10 lety +4

    Classic Doctor Who...love it. Still it makes you wonder if Susan and David made it. If so, do they have kids? If they did, it means The Doctor is not alone. He has family. Some have suggested that Clara might be his Great Granddaughter. I don't know about that but I would love to know if he has family....a family he doesn't know about.

    • @AmandaTomkins
      @AmandaTomkins Před 3 lety

      In the audio he’s already met up with Susan (and her family) in the series, which I have listened to hundreds of times. Plus she has her own adventures during the time war. (Big Finish Productions)

    • @tompearce5418
      @tompearce5418 Před rokem

      She probably outlived David by a considerable margin

  • @thedalek1805
    @thedalek1805 Před 10 lety +7

    what about fixing that shoe

  • @TimeTravelingBunnis
    @TimeTravelingBunnis Před 9 lety +2

    Most likely Susan was the Time Lord (Lady) who interacted with Wilf, in Tennent's last episodes.

    • @ojpartist3411
      @ojpartist3411 Před 9 lety +8

      C. R. Ryan
      It was revealed by Russell T Davis that the woman in those last episodes was actually the doctors mother.

  • @Ravaloxianthunderbird
    @Ravaloxianthunderbird Před 11 lety +4

    "Her unbridled happiness is clearly available for everyone to see" - From "The Doctor Who Years - The 60's".
    Definitely the saddest departure in the shows history. It rivals the departures of Katarina, Sara K, Adric, Sarah - Jane, Tegan, Amy/Rory & Peri

  • @ChuckJr007
    @ChuckJr007 Před 10 lety

    Listen to the 8th Doctor audio. He does have a great-grandson. She could be his Great Great Grand-Daughter

  • @geoffbrenneman9757
    @geoffbrenneman9757 Před 2 lety

    Sniff sniff someone must be cutting onions nearby they get tears watering my eyes

  • @mazzucac
    @mazzucac Před 11 lety

    i saw you post something on another video about the doctor lying, and i agree. at least i think it was you

  • @AetherTales
    @AetherTales Před 11 lety

    It is forbidden to dump bodies into the River.

  • @Usagi1992
    @Usagi1992 Před 5 lety +1

    ....he knew. :(

  • @geoffbrenneman9757
    @geoffbrenneman9757 Před rokem

    Susan to return in 60th anniversary

  • @1959thDrWho
    @1959thDrWho Před 12 lety

    This was a great idea...I always wanted to know how they ditched the Doctor!

  • @PowerfulLamp
    @PowerfulLamp Před 11 lety +1

    and he erased Donna's memory.

  • @Kevin64441
    @Kevin64441 Před 11 lety +2

    Rule number 1 : the doctor lie

  • @callac
    @callac Před 7 lety +10

    Susan was hot.

    • @stephaniefaypage8028
      @stephaniefaypage8028 Před 3 lety

      She be in doctor series 13 ?

    • @callac
      @callac Před 3 lety

      @@stephaniefaypage8028 She quickly appeared in that documentary about the first Doctor. I don't know if they'll call her back.

    • @bleirdo_dude
      @bleirdo_dude Před 2 lety

      HAWT! 😍

  • @braupaul
    @braupaul Před 9 lety

    And Susan is rumored to be coming back in series 9. At the end of the trailer, girl (supposedly Susan) says "What took you so long?"

    • @Althalus2010
      @Althalus2010 Před 8 lety +1

      +MoviesRapidShows90's Well so much for that theory. But I've heard that Capaldi wants Susan to return, so there may still be hope.

  • @ClaireIamma
    @ClaireIamma Před 4 lety +3

    7:33 what’s that? I mean is the Tardis’ key, but i dont know...😅

  • @RowanCharlton
    @RowanCharlton Před 11 lety

    Probably was me. People always seemed to comment something about the 'doctor lying' on every other video, even on irrelvant stuff.

  • @lilposa96
    @lilposa96 Před 10 lety +2

    Clara couldn't possibly be Susan's daughter or granddaughter. Susan was left on Earth in 2146, Clara lives in the 21st century, a hundred years before any of this happened, it doesn't add up! >

  • @sanseverything900
    @sanseverything900 Před 2 lety

    I wonder if some viewers at the time had issues with a twenty-something year old guy wanting to marry a fifteen year old.

  • @stephaniefaypage8028
    @stephaniefaypage8028 Před 3 lety

    I'd love to see dove Cameron play Susan if she regenerate?

  • @terryhobbsiii
    @terryhobbsiii Před 7 lety

    You have rest of episode?

  • @ShaunakDesaiPiano
    @ShaunakDesaiPiano Před rokem +1

    I have a question. Susan is a Time lord (lady, whatever), right? So why in the early seasons of the rebooted series does the Doctor keep saying he is the last of the Time Lords, when the period he left Susan in is not time locked and he can still visit her? Also, I wonder if Susan can regenerate…

  • @stephaniepage4334
    @stephaniepage4334 Před 2 lety

    Does doctor have an direct descendants though Susan if she has another one after alex death or alex got girl pregnant before he died because he was 17 years old when he died?

  • @RowanCharlton
    @RowanCharlton Před 11 lety

    Aghhh!!!!!

  • @tonysvideocorner8422
    @tonysvideocorner8422 Před 10 lety

    Wait, this is william's farewell, not susan's.

  • @lanerovito2920
    @lanerovito2920 Před 3 lety

    She should wear sandals

  • @LoriCiani
    @LoriCiani Před 4 lety

    Question, what happened to the TARDIS key after Susan and David walked away? Who has the key now and do they know what they have? I suppose it's like the time lord blood sample that was sitting in Grace's house, never mentioned again. Hmm...put the two together and you've got yourself a story?

    • @AmandaTomkins
      @AmandaTomkins Před 3 lety

      She picked it up. It’s all explained in the audio series “Lucie Miller”. And In the audio he’s already met up with Susan in the series, which I have listened to hundreds of times. Plus she has her own adventures during the time war. (Big Finish Productions)

  • @beowulfthedane
    @beowulfthedane Před 9 lety +3

    Susan could have lived a full life with David and then regenerated and rejoined her Grandfather or built a new Tardis herself and gone looking for the doctor only to eventually become Clara Oswald.

    • @HarryRobins
      @HarryRobins Před 9 lety +2

      She did, and she got a son, and the Eighth Doctor had Christmas with them in an audio adventure, and the dalek's invaded Earth again.

    • @Cee_R0
      @Cee_R0 Před 9 lety +1

      And Tardis's are grown.

  • @terryhobbsiii
    @terryhobbsiii Před 6 lety

    but I wonder who was the regenerating girl in the Matt Smith episode?

    • @dj24617
      @dj24617 Před 4 lety +1

      It was river song

    • @dj24617
      @dj24617 Před 4 lety

      If I'm wrong, you need to be more specific =)

  • @sircurtisseretse3297
    @sircurtisseretse3297 Před 3 lety +4

    This is disgusting. He leaves his granddaughter with one shoe in the company of a Scotsman who needs a shave.. Meanwhile, Ian and Barbara sneak into the Tardis, because they haven't got the guts to say goodbye to Susan. Then the doctor talks some gibberish because somebody's clobbered him over the head and he promises to come back some day.
    Yeah.
    I have a granddaughter, but I wouldn't treat her like that.

    • @tompearce5418
      @tompearce5418 Před rokem

      Here's a nasty thought - at the Doctor's first trial in the War Games the Time Lord Tribunal couldn't care less about Susan, her whereabouts or her welfare.

  • @ambermonstergoldfish
    @ambermonstergoldfish Před 11 lety +1

    Claras mum is susan foreman!

  • @keehanbrowne8553
    @keehanbrowne8553 Před 11 lety

    if you really care THAT much about a show thats run for 5 decades, I don't think i like the fandom anymore.

  • @stephaniefaypage8028
    @stephaniefaypage8028 Před 3 lety +1

    Can Susan get pregnant with David babies again?