6.5 Creedmoor vs .270 Winchester Part 1 With Chuke's Outdoor Adventures Barnes LRX
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I'm a big hard nose gun collector now,and I also have a 25/06 to in a savage axis xp model.with another nikon prostaff 4/12/40 bdc scope on it to.and comparing it to the 270,6.5 creedmoor,well when i hunt with it i use 100 grain pointed soft points and that gun shoots just as good or great as my 270 or 6.5 creedmoor does In some places or ways.im a big stupid gun nut who loves to but them and not much on ever selling or trading them.like my t/c dimension 300 magnum my t/c encore prohunter Muzzleloader with a 7mm magnum barrel and 308 barrel.and my diamondback db 10 308,my ati 300 blackout,my ati 223 ar 15 omni hybrid maxx rifle,my cva 243 break down 1 shot rifle and so on and so on.i could go on for ever about ever gun I have and tell you just how they shoot and what's the best scope and ammo to use with them.but if you have a 25/06 to use and hunt with then in my opinion your right up there with some of best long range shooting calbers on the market today.and it will certainly do and get the job done for you in any shooting or hunting situation out there.so do and be like me shoot it and be proud of it and tell ever body it not for sale now 😁👌‼
I have taken elk mule deer white tail deer black bear with model 38 Swed surplus rifle open site. Excellent game harvesters the 6.5 140 grain bring it on.
You found it,, but you didn't find it??¿¿?? WTF am I watching?????.?
I also have a 25-06 Savage axis, and its great.
Awesome glad you like it
I’ll take the 270, any day all day.
I don't blame you one bit
My .270 is in Mossberg 4X4. Very light. Kicks like hell, but I know that means it's going to do it's job down range on anything in North America
The only thing better is the 270wsm.
@@raymondparks4734 or 7mm Rem mag
@@raymondparks4734 Now we're talking Raymond, I own 2 270WSM's and a 300WSM custom 26" barrel. I have had a love affair with the 7mm Rem mag since I was 15yrs old and still have one today at 50yrs old. The 270WSM is such a pleasure to shoot and reload and it just gets the job done! I shoot the new Federal Edge TLR 136gr. They're a really sleek high B.C. bonded bullet and man do they shoot flat. My son dumped a nice 5pt bull elk last year at a ranged 199yds, at the shot the bull dropped and never moved. The bullet went through 3ft of elk on a quartering away shot and that 136gr bullet blew through it and kept on truckin.
Jack OConnor won most of us over with the 270. Creedmore has a lot of catching up to do
That's for sure. God bless, merry Christmas and thank you for watching!
That's how I feel, user the right bullet, make a good shot
It isn't an apples-to-apples comparison. The .270 Winchester is a long-action cartridge, whereas the 6.5 Creedmoor is a short-action. It would be a more legitimate comparison, in terms of consistency, to compare .270 with another long-action cartridge, or the 6.5 CM with another short-action design. 270 remains the hunting choice, as its nearly a century of superb field performance attests, but the venerable .270 offers few suitable choices for long-range precision, which is the domain of the 6.5 Creedmoor and its highly-efficient .264-caliber projectiles. A factory version of the 6.5-06 wildcat would be great, i.e., a 30-06 necked-down to .264-caliber.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 agreed... but caliber arguments are pointless too if you have the right bullet in the right spot...
I'm from Jonesboro, Ga... where are you from?
@@AlaskanBallistics - Born in Atlanta, but have family scattered around the state at various times and places. Keep it real!
Creedmore the prince on paper, but the 270 is the king of the real world.
New calibers > old glue horse calibers
Only if you've never heard of 6.5 PRC. Same powder charge and velocity as 270 but uses high performance high BC 6.5mm bullets and only $0.40/round more than 6.5 CM which since the comparison is based on hunting only is nominal. When you compair 270 to a caliber that's actually in it's class a 6.5mm still wins. Tell SOCOM the new 6.5cm that they left 308 for dead to adopt is a paper round.
@@exothermal.sprocket Unless you compare 270 to 6.5 PRC which is basically a 6.5 Creedmoor Magnum with affordable ammo and is in the same class of cartridge as far as powder charge as 270 then 270 gets smoked.
Wont be 40 for awhile, im not a comando, i just hunt with my 270, based on results ive had, the ol dinosaur will kill you dead. Also, i reload, so cheap plentiful brass is a plus, and in a pinch, a 30-06 case can be necked down to make 270 brass. I dont know what the hell you guys are talking about. Go buy your shiny baubles, me and my trusty .270 win will keep ruling our corner of the woods.
Oh im definitely in the USA! Proud of it too!
@@fruitfarmfords8243 Ok but you're talking about the 270 "being the King" and it is not. In fact 270's performance is no longer competitive against other calibers in it's class. BTW 6.5CM and 6.5 PRC are both American cartridges by Hornady because USA!
The Standard deviation was close but who cares? The 270 was waayyyy more impressive. These guys wanted the 6.5 to win but the tried and true came through with the win.
We didn't want 6.5 to win... lol thanks for watching
The impression I got is they were 6.5 Creedmore fans to begin with. But keep one important fact in mind, you don't take game with standard deviations or calibers that kick less, (and who even notices recoil when you're shooting at game?) you take game with a butt kicking cartridge....... and that cartridge happens to be the .270.
You cant even compare these 2 rounds .this is really a joke .6.5 is good for what intended 270.will always walk all over 6.5.
George Zink :
Your words are spot in. Standard deviation is meaningless on hunting game animals.
This video makes me more prouder of my 270`s rifles!
As it should. Thanks for watching. Happy new year
I 'd like to own that left handed 270
@@martincorbitt1979 which model left handed?
I’ll take the 270 evertime
Don't blame you
I would much rather have My .270 win. just MY personal preference . It's Long Standing Proven accuracy , It's VERY ACCURATE .
Nothing wrong with that
Can't go wrong with a .270, especially with the bullets available today - when you can find'em.
270 for sure! pencil barrel.......don’t care, one round is all it takes
Agreed
Well said
The 270 is a magnum level cartridge with the best ballistics.
The 6.5 Creedmore is just a lesser version of the 270.
The .270 will always be the king for American game.
A queen to the it's daddy the 30-06 but yeah i get what you mean! Thanks for watching
After seeing them both perform, I still will stick with my original pick ( just like Chuke) the .270 has the edge over the 6.5 !
The recoil isnt an issue for me but I can see why the 6.5 could be appealing for others.
In my area , 95% of people use
.270, 30-30 or 30-06 for hunting black bear + whitetail deer.
Great video as always Chuck !
Yeah it's definitely a better game getter
Unless you hunt at longer ranges and in the wind. For your uses the 270 is better, for others the cm gets the nod. It is a shame that the cm is so overhyped, because it really is a great long range cartridge with awesome ammo available for it.
@@fredmeebley I don't see the 6.5cm as solely a dedicated long range cartridge at all I see it as a complete replacemant for old glue horse's like 308, 30.06, and 270. I see it as a general purpose do it all caliber which beats the shit out of 308 and can take any North American game alike 270 and 30.06. The 6.5cm now has affordable brass cased Sellier and Bellot ammo at $10.49/box and there's loads that match the energy levels of the best factory loads in 270 & 30.06 at hunting distances. Here's 6.5cm 143gr ELD-X ammo for sale that's going 2855fps from a 24" barrel.
dallasreloads.com/product/6-5-speedmoor-143-grain-eld-x/
And here's cheap brass ammo
www.budsgunshop.com/mobile/product/415008803/redirect
@@gsxr1189 You keep spewing out false information. The 30-06 has factory loads shooting a 180 gr 30 caliber bullet the same speed from a 22" barrel as your 26 caliber 143 grain bullet. The 30-06 has almost 3200 foot pounds of energy vs 2400 for the creedmoor. Will you explain how that replaces the 30-06?
Yep, have all 3 calibers, .270, 30-30, and 30-06. I would never insult those 3 calibers by adding a 6.5 Creedmore to the vault. Also have .223 Ruger Mini 14, a Ruger American in 7.62X39, and a German 8MM Mauser. Have killed deer with all of them,......oops, I mean I have killed water jugs with all of them.
.270 for hunting and 6.5 for shooting steel or paper at long range. I agree with @00 Buck
Obviously you've never hunted with a 6.5
@@abcertweld There is nothing a 6.5 can do that a .270 can't, so pointless comment.
@@Atombender Not really. You said 6.5 for paper or steel which suggest it's good for hunting, which is far from true. So his comment was appropriate
@@abcertweld actually i have hunted with the 6.5 creedmoor. I've also hunted with the 270 and literally dozens more calibers. I got rid of my creedmoor, still have the 270 and many others. As good as the 6.5 creedmoor might be, it doesn't deserve the pedestal so many of you seem determined to put it on.
@@donaldalderman2424 more moose have been taken down by the 6.5x55swiss than any other round in existence due to it’s long history of popular hunting use by Scandinavian moose hunters since the late 19th century. The 6.5 in question is a proven good capable hunting round due to its Swiss counterpart and .260. The .270 is obviously a fantastic hunting round. The 6.5 is the favored tool for precision tasks like prs and sniping work. You can practice much more before barrel burn out with the 6.5. A capable marksman will do well with the 6.5 for hunting. A person looking for a round that does a great job for many different types of tasks can consider the 6.5CM.
I’m always amazed at the energy generated and “released” with today’s ammunition. Awesome to witness in slow motion. Cool stuff.
I'm a 270 fan from way back but the 6.5 Creedmoor is a deer killing machine where I live. I switched to one. The short action is nice and smooth and it kills Whitetail just fine.
6.5 Creedmoor is definitely good enough for whitetail. Thanks for watching.
keep trying to find ways to say that the 6.5 creedmoor is superior to the 270 win in any circumstance. It's not. Jack o connor proved that many years ago. The 6.5 isnt even close.
Totally agree
Im a .270 and 30-06 hunter but how did Jack o conner prove that when he died 30 years before the 6.5 creed existed? It is literally a bigger powder charge and a bigger bullet for the .270 so of course its going to win.
True, love the old 270. All these new cartridges coming out I stick to my old trusted rounds that's never let me down.
270 all the way,,,,,,6.5 needmore is a good youth cartridge,,,,like a 243,,,,,,
Very true
6.5mm creedmoor is a great whitetail cartridge for my surgically repaired shoulder (4 times). .270 and .25-06 before that. .270 is a great all around cartridge. Still love it. Guess my point is hunt with what you like , what suits you. Lots of great rifle ,cartridge combos out there. If it wasn't for my shoulder i'd be trying out a 300 prc !
Actually 270 doesn't have any meaningful energy advantage at hunting distances over 6.5cm when you use the correct loads. Here's 143gr ELD-X from a 6.5cm going 2855fps from a 24" barrel.
dallasreloads.com/product/6-5-speedmoor-143-grain-eld-x/
And Kerry that ammo is called 6.5 Speedmoor not needmore. The problem with old calibers like 270 is that it's a 100 year old caliber with chamber dimensions and standard twist rates based on 100 year old bullet technology and thanks to SAAMI that's not something that can be changed.
Correction - Feedmore and leadmore- keep shooting while the buck walks away.
Then wish you had a bleedmore to make tracking easier
.270 Win for the win!
You can go heavier & more bullet options.
Only by 5 grains in factory ammo, and some really oddball handloading stuff which Jack the pressures up... but yes you can get off the shelf a 150gr load instead of a 145gr load. That being said there's a lot more powder in that .270 casing
I like to think of 270 as proven technology rather than old fashioned, I load a 150 grain LRAB to 3030 FPS it’s more of a 7mag rival than a creedmoor, that said I’m building a 6.5 creedmoor out of my tikka t3 in 243 soon as it’s a superb Calibre and a really good allrounder for stalking deer in the uk, our deer range from muntjac which are as small as a medium size dog to red stags, great video guys.👍
That's a hot load.
Great joint video, “love these”. .270 is still the king! 🤭🧐😄
Matthew Schlegel lol right until you put it up next to 30-06
because it is a neck down 30-06, dip.
@@J.Huff76 actually it's a necked down 30-03 😎😎
.270 all day.. I have taken a whitetail at 418 yards on a bean field in North Carolina with my old Savage model 110 and leopold scope. Still the most accurate rifle I've owned in my 62 years.
Nice shot!!!
I'm 59 and hunted by myself at age 9 and would choose 270 everyday, but my 1975 BAR 30:06 IS MY GUN
I don't blame you there
I have a couple of .30-'06 rifles, and that caliber is fantastic. And I have lots of other rifles of so many calibers, from the .22 Hornet, to the .223, to the .243, to the .30-30, to the .308, to the .50 Beowulf, to the .450 Marlin. But when bringing home the backstrap is the mission, I always grab my Ruger M77 in .338 Winchester Magnum. Handload it with a light bullet (180 grains) and it has a flatter trajectory than the 6,5 Creedmoor (and a lot more punch at extreme distances). If Kodiak bear is the quarry, load it with a 250 grain Nosler Partition or Swift A-Frame, and the biggest, meanest Kodiak will become a rug in no time and without raising a ruckus.
Love my. 338 win mag
@Dave Alexander Alaska is not kind to any semiautomatic gun and even to other types of guns. When the temperature plummets it plays dirty tricks on guns and ammo.
That's a tough situation for sure
The old .270 workhorse is no joke, I can honestly say I'm happy to own one myself.
Me too
You cant make a 270 out of a 6.5 Creedmoor.
@tomburrows3608 no but 6.5 prc clearly beats it. And 6.5x284 ties it. At least 6.5 creedmoor have match chambers and ammo. .270's you have to load longer than the magazine to get any accuracy after that throat erodes in the first 200 rounds
I would prefer the 270 for reasons such as availability in ammo and gun selection. Browning just came out with a 270 with a 1 in 7.5 twist I believe and there will be demands for 175 bullets with superior ballistics over longer ranges but seriously, is it needed.@@AlaskanBallistics
@@AlaskanBallistics I happen to own a 6.5 prc as well. My .270 and 6.5 prc are both Model 70s and are great ahooters.
6.5 will be slightly less affected by wind, 270 has always been one of the best and still a great choice.The ELD x 147 in 6.5 is a decent hunting round but not great, the reason I standardize on it is it really is a match target long range bullet that will work for hunting medium game and dont shoot game animals at long ranges, it is not open country where I hunt mostly with exception this year I got a desert mule deer.I can shoot long range targets and coyotes at 500 yards or so with the same bullet I hunt with.I always have used 180 barnes x in my 300 mag ruger mk 2 it is such a accurate bullet.Man , looks cold up there.good show.
The eld-x is nice but acts like a vmax at short range... thanks for watching brother
I’m a 270 fan, would of liked to of seen them use 140 gr. as that has a better all around weight for Alaskan game!
Just released a video on sig Sauer 140gr bullets yesterday. I think they're the wrong bullet type for Alaska though.
You right. Hell, all you gotta do is read Hornady's own ballistic charts. 270 hits harder and shoots flatter out to 500 yards with ANY grain... and thats according to the folks who developed the 6.5 cm cartridge LOL
I love my creedmoor but .270 is awesome
129gr Solids behave more like a 180gr bullet. They are a lot longer than most 130gr cup and core bullets and retain their weight without exploding like a cup and core bullet at .270 speeds. You could shoot a 100gr .277 solid bullet if you wanted to. 140gr cup and core makes sense for the .270 if you’re trying to reduce the impact speed and retain more of the bullet core for penetration. 129gr LRX is the best of both worlds since you get speed and weight retention, with insane penetration.
The .270 Winchester is one of the reasons why bullet makers had to up their game with bullets that will still hold together on closer range shots. It should really be classified as a magnum since its working pressure is 65,000psi and has 60gr case capacity. It even blows the back end out of Nosler Partitions on impact at close ranges, which was a significant factor in the creation of the Barnes X bullet. Nosler responded with the Accubond, and eventually the E-Tip solid. Even though I grew up on .270 Win, I’ve come to see it as overkill for close range shots. It does really well as a prairie or plains rifle where shots are at 300yds or more, which is why it was so popular out in the US Mountain West region.
My.270 with 150 grain is a devastating round at 300 yards for deer and elk here in Idaho.
What Uncle Dan said is classic. But great job on the video. I had a 270 years back and loved loading for it. Never shot the Creedmore round yet. But the older I get and with 2 back surgeries the lighter recoil is better for me. God bless sir
Awesome I hope you can find something you like
It's obvious how much harder the 270 hit than the 6.5. I know all about the trajectory. and the effects of wind etc. I shoot a rem 700 in 270.all reloads, with a timney trigger. The poor man's magnum. hard to beat.
Sounds like a great set up
Same here.
I too love my rem 700 in 270 but have an adjusted old school remington trigger. Bought it new 20 years ago at Walmart. I've only ever had 1 animal move after being hit by my 130 grain nosler partition handloads and she only made it 15 yards after a good lung shot! Its never let me down and will always be my go to. I did recently acquire a mossberg patriot in 6.5 cm as variety is the spice of life.
@Michael Neely Yes , a good deer bullet, no good for anything larger , blows up and can't penetrate
@Michael Neely goes through 3+ steel plate body armor too :)
The age old debate, long action vs short action. Great video, I can't wait for part two!
Baby Hulk over on Chuke's channel
people really want to believe in that 6.5... something may surpass the .270 someday, but the creedmoor isn't it
In my opinion it's 280 rem and 3006 lol but yeah I like the 6.5 but it's no 270
tom k 6.5 PRC blows it outta the water in every way possible.
tom k I disagree. The creedmoor and the PRC both have way better ballistics past 500 yards. It all depends on what your after. Long range with energy (6.5 with a heavy bullet) or short range hunting .270. Each have their place they are designed for two different things. 👍🏻
The 6.5 something surpassed the .270 before it was created, that 6.5 is the 6.5x55 swede......created in 1891, still remains ballistically superior and the original 6.5 moose slayer
tom k I argue about these two calibers a lot at work. Nowadays everybody is jumping on the creedmore bandwagon and it’s a sub par round to a lot of rounds out there.
.270 wins all the time with Crystal Geyser!
I enjoy how barnes loads the 270 to its original velocity of 3140 fps with a 130 grain bullet rather than backing off the velocity to 3060 like all the other manufacturers have
I got over 3200 one day with a hornady factory load. Check out episode 2 of this series.
I have a .270 and that is the one I would choose.
Ballistics and target maybe the 6.5 CM will win. But the 270 win. has shown for many years taking animals that it's one of the very best there is.
Totally agree thanks for watching
Hardly when we all have to do is load 6.5cm hot and even with 30% less powder charge it matches the energy levels of the best factory loads in 270 at hunting distances the 270 shows it's age. Here's some 6.5cm 143gr ELD-X for sale that's going 2855fps from a 143gr ELD-X from a 24" barrel that does just that. 270 is a 100 year old caliber with SAAMI spec chamber dimensions and standard twist rates designed around 100 year old bullet technology and it cripples its ablity to reach the potential what a caliber of it's size should be. Modern calibers don't have this problem and 6.5prc is a better caliber than 270.
dallasreloads.com/product/6-5-speedmoor-143-grain-eld-x/
@@gsxr1189 No 6/5 Creedmoor will come close to a good 270 for energy easy to get 3000+ with a 150 gr. in the 270
NOT LMAO
@Michael Neely 15 years of use and getting more popular.. is the .270 better for hunting... of course.
Bought a ruger American predator 6.5mm creedmoor, vortex crossfire ii scope with bdc reticle, shooting the 143 gr eld-x hornady precision hunter ammo. 11 one shot ,drop in their tracks shots on southeast whitetail deer. Also 3 dead yotes. 20-318 yards . No issues, no tracking ( which is big in the thick cutovers I'm hunting). Very lightweight rifle with hardly any recoil on surgically repaired shoulder. Before that shot Remington 700 in .270 with same result. Both effective for what and how I hunt. The difference was weight and recoil. Everyone has their favorite rifle,caliber combo.. hell I wish I could buy one of each that everyone in the comments has listed as their favorite
.270 is my SHTF long rifle.
Keiko FX Designs nothing wrong with that!!!
for real...130gr goes through 3+ plates...
I wouldn't want to get hit by it!
IMO the 270 is a proven cartridge with many stories of downed game. Its under estimated and shadowed with today's hyped marking with new cartridges. Both cartridges shine in different uses. The 6.5CM will definitely take game, but has a slight accuracy performance. So many projectiles are offered in .277 that for hunting purposes will definitely outperform in the hunting department over 6.5CM. Either cartridge can be setup for both long range or hunting with custom chambering barrels. But the 270 imo is better suited all around performance over the CM
Eagle Eye Shooting totally agree. Thanks for watching!
I think a lot of people here don’t realize that the Swedes have been using the 6.5x55 which is the equivalent to the creedmoor to hunt moose very successfully for just as long if not longer than we Americans have been using 270.
A very good point sir
Apples and oranges.
Stepan Bandera what’s apples and oranges the 270 vs the 6.5 creedmoor or the 6.5x55 vs 6.5 creedmoor?
@@qwertydgglifeenthusiast8732 6.5 Creedmore vs 6.5. Swede I'll take the proven Swede. I'm hunting meat not paper. Do they have moose in Sweden?
Stepan Bandera www.wildsweden.com/about/facts-about-moose/ “There are more Moose in Sweden per square kilometer than any other country in the World.”
The 6.5 creedmoor is ballistically identical to the 6.5x55 the only difference is bullet design and what loads are available from factory
Well I believe in Alaska I'd take 270 over 6.5!
It seems all of Texas has went 6.5 crazy, both Creedmore & Grendel. The 6.5 is a dandy bullet that can be pushed at impressive speeds with a low powder charge. The AR15 I built my son is performing very well in the Grendel and is a tack driver! To me the main advantage in a bolt is I've always like short actions. 7mm-08 was always one my favorite the Creedmore is very close to it! I'll probably get one.
Shootin' with Uncle Dan just got a youth 7mm-08 ruger American bolt action compact. Gonna be fun.
@@AlaskanBallistics man that will be a handy little rifle! What is the barrel length?
270 seems to have that unforeseen power that absolutely almost Perfect Combination. On the other CZcams channel 300 WIN MAG went through 7 paper plates more than the 3006. The 270 went through 76 over the 3006 paper plates . When the 270 hits something living they just absolutely drop on the spot. Unbelievable cartridge for the price as well
I love WHO_TEE_WHO paper plate test but bullet construction and type really make a difference, since for the same bullet weight, 300 win mag and 3006 have more velocity and cross section.
Therefore they open up faster and slow down faster, assuming he's using 150gr soft point for all three rounds.
They'll all do the job with the right bullet in the right spot
Bullet just has to go through the lungs. Not 76 paper diapers.
The 270 will always wit
It is witty 😜👍😁 thanks for watching
It appears one likes the 6.5 Creedmor and the other likes the .270 Win.
Everything is good as far as I am concerned
I own and load a Remington 700 in .270Win, with 150 grain Woodleigh Protected Point Projectiles, and have taken goats out at 700+ yards, with really good results.
At 100 yards It shoots 1/4" groups consistently.
Probably all up to the individual, but with the extra punch of the .270Win is what I prefer.
I have used it on Sambar Deer also with good results.
That sounds like really good results for sure! Thank You Very Much for Watching!!
Jack O'Connor can whip that Creedmoor fella with one arm tied behind his back. No contest.
Lol probably true
But it did knockdown a caribou for me at 282 yards
@@AlaskanBallistics It is the.man behind the trigger..!
Exactly
@@AlaskanBallistics Good shooting. Knowing where your rifle shoots at range is everything.
If I had to choose between the two I would take the tried and true 270 Winchester hands down. Just because a cartridge is newer doesn’t mean it’s better and the 6.5 creedmore isn’t better than the 270 Winchester cartridge. The 6.5 wasn’t a good comparison to the 270 win.
No it's not but people apparently like the 6.5 Creedmoor getting its butt whooped
It's the same as comparing the 308 to the 06.
I don't know about that 6.5cm can crank the velocity up too. Here's some 143gr ELD-X for sale that's going 2855fps from a 24" barrel. With those loads 6.5cm matches the energy levels of the best factory loads in 270 and 30.06 at hunting distances. Of course some would claim that that's not fair even though we're comparing a caliber with a 30% power charge advantage and the little 6.5cm still holds it's own because it's been punching above it's weight class since day one.
dallasreloads.com/product/6-5-speedmoor-143-grain-eld-x/
@@gsxr1189
There's guys that shoot unlimited F class that pump 308 win up into the 300 win mag range.
That doesn't mean that it is safe though for non custom rifles.
270 for me anyways:-)
Something that is not brought up enough when comparing calibers/cartridges is how they affect meat harvest. It seems like you'll get more recoverable meat with the 6.5 Creedmoor.
I had much better meat recovery from my 6.5 creedmoor than my 7mm Rem mag. Both with barnes LRX
I THINK THEY GOT IT RIGHT OVER 100 YEARS AGO. I SHOOT 30/06 FOR EVERYTHING FROM RABBITS TO RED DEER. IF YOU NEED BIGGER YOU NEED TO LEARN TO HUNT OR LEARN HOW TO SHOOT ACCURATELY.
The 270 was invented to be better than 30 06. Little better but so close.
Can't shoot heavy bullets out of the .270
@@AlaskanBallistics how heavy of a bullet do you need. 270 FLATTER. We shot elk in Colorado.
For Alaska... where things hunt you back
@@AlaskanBallistics ok
.270. No soy boy Gucci rounds needed. LOL!
Tex_I_Can bahahaha good one
@@AlaskanBallistics I hope you have a great Thanksgiving break!
Just an old dull glue horse. 6.5 PRC beats 270's........
Tex_I_Can thank you sir
Gs Xr very true
I’d take a 270 along for a coyote or a moose hunt any day. Very capable and versatile round.
Yes it is. God Bless and happy new year
I think I’m still going to stay in the .30cal and higher range, but those are both great rounds. Great seeing you guys collaborate on another video.
Shooter 1924 I don't blame you. 7mm magnum for me
I have been hunting and taking large deer with my trusty .270 for years. Absolutely love the .270 for everything I do. If I don’t grab the trusty .270 I grab another trusty Remington BDL 30/06 both have never let me down even in sub zero conditions.
Good to know
270 always beat a 6.5
The 6.5 CM is here to stay no doubt but I’ll take the trusty 270 win every single time!
I don't blame you one bit
I'll stick with my 270
I don't blame you there
My two cents worth. I have both in Sako. The 270 is a Finnlight and 6.5 is a stainless timber hunter. I hand load for both with 140g noslers. As far as accuracy I can’t split hairs. If I want to go to the range I take the 6.5 ( my daughter loves it. She’s about 50 kg ) if I’m after deer for the freezer the 270 wins every time. Moral of the story is some calibers are designed to perform better on paper and some calibers are born, breed and proven in the field. Just my two cents worth.
I don't disagree
270 had more pop on the target ,,, the 6.5 is more gentle for the millennial hunter
That's cute but 6.5cm can actually match the energy levels of the best factory loads in 270 here's some 6.5cm ammo for sale that's going 2855fps from a 143gr ELD-X which does just that. When all a 6.5cm with 30% less powder charge has to do to accomplish that is be loaded hot 270 shows its age. A 100 year old caliber with chamber dimensions and standard twist rates designed around 100 year old bullet technology which cripples 270's performance potential and thanks to SAAMI that can't be changed. There's a reason why 270 has 30% more powder charge but still can't launch higher BC bullets than 6.5cm and it's because of that 100 old SAAMI COAL spec and chamber manufacturers couldn't fit them so why even produce any. These are the reasons why the old calibers will be replaced by modern calibers.
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Gs Xr you sound like one of those cool dudes with a man bun! Like you said, the 270 is 100 year old technology and still can compete with new calibers that makes it very impressive
And it goes great with skinny jeans. 😂😂😂
ok boomer. ive got a .270 myself.
@@gsxr1189 just cuz saami has a spec dont men i cant hand load and use different powder and bullets to get better performance out of a 270. you act like cuz its wrote down its not possiable to do something different and make a new spec. news flash 6.5cm is in saami too so whats the difference that u can hot load and i cant?
Hunted next to my little brother for years with him on his 270, and me with a 6.5.. Both will kill deer at 350 yds proven. The only difference that matters to me is that the 270 is far more destructive, no matter what load your putting through it. 6.5 would be through and through shot through the ribs with a 2 1/2" exit hole, loosing no good meat. The 270 with similar shot placement is taking out half of the other shoulder.
Why even use a 6.5 then if that's what you're worried about?
.223 gr v-max 55gr right at the base of the brain stem does the job just fine... dropped 6 whitetail like that in GA .
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Jason Homrighausen Tissue damage is what does the job. That’s what you want.🇨🇦
May i ask what type of ammunition you used on deer at 350 with the creedmoor ?
Ah! I just ordered a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmore - a friend in Utah took me out to a range and I enjoyed it so much (it was a little scary) that I bought a 10/22 and a Glock 19 when I got back home. I’ve been going to a range twice monthly, took a course and have gotten better. I wanted something with a bit more oomph, so I’ve ordered a Springfield XD40 and the Predator; I’m looking forward to shooting them when they come in and taking more advanced courses - I’m really enjoying shooting!
I'm glad you are enjoying yourself. Keep having fun
6.5 "needmore" is more like it!
Lol it'd be fine for whitetail...
I have a Tikka T3 on 270 .. there is no a chance the "creep" will out perfom the 270 ..keep dreaming !
Lol agreed thanks for watching
Actually we can match the performance of 270 with a 6.5cm. Here's some 6.5cm 143gr ELD-X for sale that's going 2855fps and matches 270's best factory loads energy levels at hunting distances. In reality in order to really cover all their bases most 270 onwers probably own 308's too when all you need is 6.5cm because it completely replaces those calibers and saves you money in doing so. And to be fair having more money really pisses some ppl off for example look at Chuke and the way he's always buying/selling guns and he's also a 270 and 308 owner because having money must really piss him off.
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Haven't played with the 6.5 CM yet. I know well the 270 Win / WSM on game. Hard to challenge those 270s for on game effect. I am in agreement though. You put a well made bullet in the right spot and it will be lethal. I know the Swedes have been rocking the 6.5mm pills for a long time. Whatever floats your boat boys.
Cheers and happy hunting this season.
That Kimber is a beauty of a hiking rifle. So light.
It's definitely nice
Great video, beautiful country. We were out on the Aleuts some years back and got Boone & Crockett at Mother Goose Lake for 3rd largest Alaskan Brown Bear on record.
One note. As a trained ELRI shooter, we find you need to keep your rounds at a warmer, even temp to do comparisons across different calibers, or you will find that generally the larger calibers will expand disproportionately in terms of vel SD than do the smaller rounds. Also, you will obviously gain power. If we had a long (i.e. over 2,000 yards on a 338 Lap mag), we’d lay the magazines in the sun for at least 30 min. The increases were significant- especially in strong sun.
Thank for the info. I generally try to keep my rounds warm
I also have a Remington Model 700 in .270 ,I got it in 1971 , made so many 1 shot kills on deer over the years here in northern michigan ,I know that creedmor is the latest thing ,but I swear by my .270
It is good caliber
At 76 years old, I have to go with the 6.5. Occasionally I take my 06 out to the range and put a box through it. The next day, my shoulder is black and blue. And, I hate muzzle breaks. That .270 is going to kick like a must without the break on it. A linear break might give some relief though.
Good thing to consider. Might also consider a break with a suppressor on it. Will help
Great video really like the 6.5 creedmore Love the 270 for Grizzly and Brown Bear hunting
That'll work
Good job making an all-around comparison video. It's not just another table comparison.
Thank you. I'll be doing an episode 2 in a few weeks that's hopefully better
What in the world does BC and standard deviations have to do will harvesting big game? You need to worry about sectional density!
I got a kick out of it when he said that the 6.5 would have better standard deviation as if its a characteristic of the cartridge...
Everyone knows the angle of the dangle depends on the heat of the meat and only the mass of the ass remains constant
@@graynotescartridgebox reloading practices > cartridge. I shoot the old tired 30-06 and the load I worked up averaged 2768 ft/sec, 10 es and 3 sd across 8 rounds fired from two 22 inch barreled rifles. 180 gr bullet loaded on top of ramshot hunter with a winchester magnum primer.
graynote maybe in your case you did but I actually just tested it for temp stability. With the same load I just described, I put 3 rounds in my freezer at 2 degrees for 2 hours or so and shot them over the magnetospeed. Velocity avg was 2711 so it lost 50 ft/sec across a ~60 degree temp swing.
graynote
A) you said in the course of a day and I said from 70 degrees to 2 degrees.
B) my ES and SD stayed the same.
Have both. Checked the wind drift with a 20 to 30mph cross wind at 300 yard. 15" difference was enough to make me pick the 6.5 for a mule deer hunt in Montana this November.
That's great info
I gave a Weatherby Vanguard series 2 with a Vortex Viper FFP on it, is lazer accurate to my Nephew for his first rifle, he loves it.
I bet that's an awesome gift
They both are good rounds guys, keep in mind they were both originally designed for different thing. The .270 was designed for hunting from the git go. The Creedmoor was designed as a target cartridge that is also used for hunting. Obviously by the reaction of your test media, the .270 has more power, as it should with a bigger bore and boiler room, and higher velocity. The Creedmoor is a smaller diameter and cartridge, less power but very good ballistics. Its going to come down to personal preference. If I was shooting a prone match at 600 yards I would probably shoot the Creedmoor or the old standard. 308 Winchester. For hunting medium game though, I would pick the .270. Strictly my personal preference.
That's what I was thinking too. Though i run 7mm Rem mag instead of .270 four game here.
@@AlaskanBallistics another great round for sure. The old 7 mag is awfully versatile.
@@larrybassett5559 very true but I use the factory barnes 139gr LRX for just about everything
another thing to take into consideration is the price of a box of 270 vs. a box of 6.5. Also you stand a much better chance of getting 270 ammo at a country grocery store. You tell them you want a box of 6.5 and you get a funny look. You want what? lol good video guys, thanks from Idaho
Thank you for watching. I don't typically forget ammo, but if I did I would rather have 270, 308. 3006 for that reason...
Godspeed merry Christmas
Actually 6.5cm ammo costs less than 270. 6.5cm is down to $10.49/box for it's lowest priced ammo while the best I can find on 270 is $11.72/box. Everyone carries 6.5cm ammo Bass pro, Cabelas, Walmart, Sportmans Warehouse, and most LGS's do too.
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Thanks for the info on a side by side comparison, and braving the cold and snow.
Oldoc Simms you're welcome Doc!
the bc difference between the two is negligible @ .005 and the standard deviation effect is also negligible between the two .. both change ¼" @ 300y and only ⅞" for the 6.5 and 1" for the 270. not a noteworthy difference.
yes there is a noticeable increase in recoil with the 270 but its flatter shooting and has much more energy.
handloading makes the difference even greater, though barnes makes powerful rounds in both
All very good points sir... thank you for watching... and Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@b w n that and also the .270 drops velocity faster than a 6.5 so at around 400 to 500 yards the creedmoor passes it up energy and speed wise. If you use 140gr for both, a 6.5 would hit harder at 550 yards than the .270. They are so close ballistically it just comes down to do you want the extra recoil for minimal added benefit or do you want minimal recoil, high devastation down range and powder savings if you reload.
@b w n most people will see the size difference and think the .270 will be so much better when really its pretty neck and neck performance wise. The .270 hits a little harder at close ranges but it honestly tears up a good bit of meat, its almost too much up close and it slows down quicker than 6.5 so it hits too hard up close for my game animal which is deer and it falls faster than 6.5 so out past 500 yards the 6.5 carries more energy than the .270 so the effective range on the 6.5 is best at both closer and longer ranges. To me that makes it the most versatile cartridge of the two hands down. You can also put a small bullet in it like the 95gr v max and varmint hunt or put the 143gr eldx and take down pretty much any animal in the US. Theres even specially made bullets for reloaders thats up into the 160 grain range which is pushing it on weight but it hits stupid hard haha i suggest you watch outdoor edventures and watch his videos. He buys bullets to reload his 6.5 creedmoor that arent very common and hunts hogs and varmint animals with them. I think 6.5 is seriously the best north american hunting rifle bullet because its not just for 1 animal or 1 category like small medium or large game. It can do it all pretty well. Bigger bullets cant kill smaller things cleanly and smaller bullets cant kill bigger things effectively, 6.5 is nuzzled softly in the middle killing everything it sees lol
@b w n yeah i give the edge to the creedmoor. It was designed to be a target round so they made it ridiculously accurate and flat shooting which is exactly what makes a hunting round a good hunting round so hornady made a hunting bullet for it and it changed the game whether people want to admit it or not the 6.5 creedmoor is a revolutionary bullet. Its speed doesnt matter because its sectional density and ballistic coefficient work together so well it doesnt have to leave the barrel at 3200fps to kill an animal at 450 or 500 yards. It just chugs through the wind so well it can be deadly at the lowish velocities, although 2,800 and 2,900fps from a 129gr bullet is not slow by any means. It beats the .308 at range just like it does the .270 and people who are die hard .308 fans dont want to believe a new comer done dethroned their precious bullet made back in the stone age haha i also hate the its tried and true and been killin for years. Well i hate to break it to you but these new bullets are designed with doppler radar and made to be as absolute aerodynamic as possible using methods not even thought of back then. The basic principle of bullets was known and calculated but as far as testing goes it was neanderthal compared to todays methods. Any new bullet today can be way better and age doesnt mean its superior. Haha had to get that little rant in lol i have been on a lot of creedmoor videos lately reading comments that .308 is better and 300 win mag is best and oh no this caliber that nobody can even find is the best haha when you cant even order it i dont think it matters how effective it is lol
I live near Ester Alaska and have used a 1970s vintage Reminton 700 .270 for Sitka blacktails, Dall sheep, Caribou and Black Bear for the past 30 years. I reload 130gr TTSX with IMR4350. Love the .270 for hunting. Reloading the 130 gr TTSX cost 50 bullets for $30 and I shoot every Tue/Thurs.
Sounds like a great load. Thanks for watching
270 my favorite
270 is king. If you want to see some impressive numbers look at the ballistics for the 150gr nosler accubond long range at 2900 fps. This is what i shoot out of a marlin xl7 with a custom mcgowen 27in barrel with 1/8 twist. With the new long range high B.C. bullets manufacturers are making for the 270 it's hard to beat.
I bet that .270 27" barrel gets great velocities
I have owned both the 6.5 and 270. Both are great rounds for medium size game. I think that the rounds you chose for each caliber are not the best, at least for hunting. I prefer the 140 grain round for the 6.5 and the 150 grain round for the 270. Both are lethal on game IMO
Watch part 2
And we killed 2 caribou this year with the barnes LRX
@@AlaskanBallistics Well done!!! I guess those rounds are better than I am giving them credit.
Dommage que c'est pas traduit en français belles vidéos
@mike murphy I've since taken a caribou at 288 yards with the 6.5 creedmoor with the barnes lrx. The two before were. With the 7mm Rem Mag
Standard deviation is not based off the caliber.. its the ammo. Consistency is the key so a good match ammo would give better SDs or just reload.
The case shape is supposed to give better SDs or that's how they advertised it. but yes handloading is way better
“I will put one more in to make it an even five.” Lol
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I commented on your 6.5 Creedmore vs. .243 and I mentioned above the .243 I had another caliber in my toolbox…ding, ding, ding…..270 slinging 150 grain boat tails. Wickedly consistent. Another great video!
Awesome man. Yeah i love my 6.5s but 270 is so much better if a hunting cartridge
@@AlaskanBallistics my favorite “go-to” is .280 AI. For 35 years my .270 was King for me, then I was introduced to the.280 and the rest has been history.
I don't blame you. Great caliber
Nice video but I would have to say I would pick 270 any day of the week but I would also shoot a different bullet Maybe the Nosler partition would work. Where I hunt in Alabama I’ll still stick with my 308. That pork steak should be plenty tender by now. lol
Barnes bullets have better weight retention than the nosler partitions... which means more kinetic energy being transferred.
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@@tumbleweed-life nosler partitions have a 75-85% weight retention.. as tested by actual professionals and not a youtube channel host... the barnes bullets are 95-100% weight retention. Sometimes the noslers hold together better but on average they don't. The barnes bullets ALWAYS hold together.
@@tumbleweed-life Why do you want a 270 and a 308 when 6.5cm replaces both thus saving you money? Here's a 6.5cm load for sale that's going 2855fps from a 143gr ELD-X from a 24" barrel. 6.5cm can match the energy levels of the best factory loads in 270's. Do anything that 270 can do and it beats the shit out of 308 way better do it all caliber. 6.5cm even has cheap brass cased ammo from Sellier and Bellot now at $0.52/rnd.
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A 100 year old caliber with chamber designs and standard twist rates based on 100 year old bullets with 100 year old aerodynamic technology and thanks to SAAMI that be changed. But hey we haven't come that far in 100 years anyway.
A whole bunch of people in the lower States say the 65 creedmoor is a lot more power than the 270 I've never believed it.
Those people can't read
I can walk into any outdoors, gun store in the USA and buy a box of 270. 6.5, maybe, maybe not.
Not so in Alaska, gotta get your store to keep up with the times lol..
Thanks for watching
Great test love that it's done in the cold weather, it's like my hunt conditions here in Canada! Thank you. I have both calibers and find the 270 has a bit more horse power😉
That it does. Thanks for watching and Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours
We'll, this video proved what I was already thinking... No comparison! 270Win, hands down.
The 6.5 Creed has been pushed hard by gun writers over the past few years, however, the 270Win is clearly the superior round. While the 6.5 has been a favorite of the LR shooters for years, it looks like it may join the WSM's & WSSM's in a few more years.
The saving grace for the 6.5 would be if more kids started hunting and wanted something a bit more than a 243Win...
The 270 is a far superior hunting round. Nobody disputes that. They 6.5 creedmore Is a very flat trajectory round for a short action and therefore beats the 308 and semi automatic sniper platforms that it was designed for. The military has been using it in special forces for a longer range semi automatic sniper system. And that's its saving grace. And yes I wanna youth and ladies are going to the round. And yes I wanna youth and ladies are going to the round
I love 270 And I love my creedmore's
@@AlaskanBallistics The .270 is superior for hunting but don’t forget more moose have been taken down by Scandinavian moose hunters using their 6.5x55swiss than any other round in existence. The 6.5 is a solid and proven hunting round. It’s a fantastic round that you can practice a lot more with before barrel burn out. For a round to have fun with, train with, improve with, and hunt with... the 6.5CM is hard to beat.
The 270 basically had 600 more ft lbs of energy. That's huge. I do agree that 6.5 creedmoore would be excellent for areas where the animals aren't very big, like in the south. I personally shoot a 270 wsm in 130 grain and it flattened a 305 lbs whitetail at 420 yards without breaking a sweat.
Nice. My 6.5 creedmoor bergara B-14 HMR flattened a huge cow caribou at 282 yards.
@@AlaskanBallistics with the federal loads I use, the muzzle velocity is 3280 and the energy is 3108.
Can't beat that
What's easier a needle in a hay stack or a bullet in a snow drift?😂
Shootin' with Uncle Dan needle in a haystack
@@AlaskanBallistics 😂
@timmybmn 😂
Nothing like being cold and wet ! Excellent presentation ! Looking forward to part 2 ! Thanks fellas !
Thanks.. part 2 is already up on Chuke's channel.
I just edited a 6.5 Creedmor vs. 25-06 that'll be out weds
Thanks again for watching!
If you tell me I can only have one Deer Riffle I will make it a 30-06 Every Time.... But there are many other Cal. I really like. .243 25-06 270
7mm 08 & others. If I am in dense woods I like a
Rugger 44 mag. - Auto.
So many great Cal. It's hard to pick one..! A 22 mag will kill about anything if you put it in the Ear Hole 🤣
I like the .45-70 for dense brush killed a 136 inch whitetail in Georgia with a single shot h&r .45-70
But 44 mag and .30-06 is awesome
Thanks for watching
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Yea ... 45-70 Gov. Is the ultimate Brush Gun. From the 1800'S there were so many from that Era that were good Brush & Buffalo Guns. 45-50 45-90 didn't survive. The 444 44-40 so many more.
@@AlaskanBallistics tell us the story behind the Buck in GA. ! Where in GA. And where you doing a Stalk !
My wife hunts with both, a pre-64 .270 Winchester Featherweight, and 6.5 Creedmoor Christensen Arms. She has shot elk and deer with the .270 and moose, big horn and deer with the 6.5 Creedmoor. Loads are 140 grain Trophy Bonded Bearclaw in the Creedmoor and Swift A-frames in the .270. We consider the 6.5 a 400 yard gun and the .270 a 550 yard gun. Both are good guns with the Creedmoor more accurate and more pleasurable to shoot. In Alaska, I would use the .270. The Barnes do not mushroom that well as a good bonded bullet and have smaller frontal area as you showed.
That's good info. Thanks for watching merry Christmas
I'd say 6.5 Creedmoor for long range precision shooting. .270 for hunting.
That's a nice rifle, Chuke. If you still have it keep me in mind, please 👍
Thanks for this video, fellas. I love watching 6.5 Creedmoor vs 270 Win because after my grandfather and my father, I too am a 270 Win fan. Also, the 6.8 Western vs 6.5 PRC would elevate the 6.8 Western cartridge I believe.
I've got a 6.5prc vs 270 video
chuke is probably never going to sell that .270
@@AlaskanBallistics very nice, I'd hunt caribou with either of those ♥
@@AlaskanBallistics Well, I'd like to catch someone letting go of a nice big game rifle. Finding that in Alaska could very well mean a one way trip for me. I've seriously been thinking about packing up my largest backpack and hoping a boat up there. Ever since my divorce about three years ago. That left me high & dry with only a few personal items and my clothes. I'm desperately in need of a solid big game rifle, 284 Win, 358 Win, or a 35 Whelen. But 30-06, 270 Win, 6.5 Creedmoor, or 308 Win would work great. 7mm Rem mag, 300 Win mag, 300 WSM, 338 Win mag (Alaska's magnum), 338-06, 338 Federal, 300 RSM, 338 RSM, 375 Ruger, or whatever else.
🎶 North to Alaska, going north my rush to win 🎶 😉
@Wilsitre I left Georgia to Alaska after my divorce... Best decision I ever made. I waited 3 months
The .270 is a proven caliber. 6.5 creed moor is a new pos. Remember sale sale profit
I've had many calibers but I think the 270 is as close as gun manufacturers can get at capturing lightning in a bottle for 95% of people. It shoots flat, its ammo is affordable, its ammo is available, it's recoil is nothing in comparison to magnum cartridges, it is capable of taking anything on the American continent (except for maybe really large dangerous game at really close distance) in the hands of anyone who has spent quality time at the range, and it still has potential to be better, meaning a faster and more affordable twist rate for commonly sold rifles would make it capable of stabilizing and accurately shooting up to 175-180 grains of bullet, but I get it that new calibers sell better with that technology built into them instead of just selling barrels
Yeah the twist rate would help
I shoot a Remington 700 in 270 and a Ruger American Wild Thing in 6.5 Creed. with a muzzle break. The 270 does not have a break and the recoil is problem for me, Also working the bolt on that long action 270 is something I don't like. I also shoot a Ruger in 270 wsm that I put a muzzle break on. No doubt the performance of the 270 is outstanding and the 270 wsm is even better. So if you have a chance shoot both and pick what is best for you. Can't go wrong either way.
Paul Brown couldn't agree more. Thanks for watching.
I have a Sears Branded model 70 in 30-06 and the only other caliber I would have liked to have it in was the 270.
Nice! .30-06 is a great round
The Creedmoor is just hype.
Could be thanks for watching
Did anyone really think .270 would be out performed I have carried a .270 longer than these men have been alive can't go wrong with the .270 anywhere in North America
Nope thanks for watching!
@Dave Alexander not to disagree with you because you are right in this scenario but this was between 6.5 and .270 for hunting as I took it 4570 lever action would be a good choice
People love their 6.5.cr's . In the field though, animals aren't going to care about Standard Deviations. With the right bullet, that 270 is going to crush through a shoulder bone much better than the 6.5. Not to mention, it's faster and has more power than the 6.5. Now if your long range hunting, and plan on making a perfect shot in the boiler room at 800 yards, that 6.5 with high b.c. bullet will work all day long..but so will the 270. I prefer hunting 500 yards in or less, not sniping out to 1000 yards.
you realize that the 6.5 isn't far behind the .270 win in mv right? You also realize that the higher BC bullets of the 6.5 cm means that it carries velocity and energy down range better? Which roughly translates to.. it will kill animals just as well at shorter ranges and it will do it better at longer ranges.
But 270 can't shoot "the right bullet" because of it's old SAAMI COAL and chamber specs manufacturers can't fit modern bullets in 270 and that's why outside of the 170gr Berger EOL they haven't even developed any. It's a 100 year old caliber with SAAMI spec chamber dimensions and standard twist rates designed around 100 year old bullet technology. These things cripple 270's ability to capitalize on what it's potential should be but modern calibers don't have these issues and that's why these old calibers are being replaced.
Y'all talking about "hunting" or "shooting"? I'm talking about average hunting ranges 500 yards or less where All of my shots have ever taken place. a .270 win will have higher mv and more energy " "with the right bullet" and do it better than a 6.5 all day long.
@@Booboo76ish I'm talking about having not a caliber who's chamber dimensions weren't SAAMI spec'd and designed around 100 year old bullet aerodynamical technology.
@@Booboo76ish wrong... and average hunting ranges for most people is inside of 200 yards where you would be correct. The .270 win doesn't always have a higher mv and the higher grain .277 cal hunting bullets have TERRIBLY bc's which means that they lose velocity quicker than the high bc 6.5 or .264 cal bullets... I have a .270 win lol. Its a good round but imo.. inside of 300-400 yards most deer, elk, black bear sized targets aren't going to notice a difference when they get shot with either round. When you start going out further the 6.5 really shines compared to the .270 win.
The 6.5 CRDM has somewhat better BRs in general with somewhat quieter MVs. The 270 Win in general the other way around. Both chamberings are quite OK for critters of 200 - 400 lbs within 400 yards ( You can use both for heavier game but makes sense to cut the distance).
None is a record -breaker in any way, just solid reliable performers. Personally would not use them for dangerous game, sorry if we disagree.
It's more of you're hunting for caribou and you happen to run into a bear, wouldn't purposefully go after bear with either. Thanks for watching and the comment