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  • čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
  • Giants beat reporter for the Athletic Dan Duggan joins the show to talk about the Giants Offseason & any news from the owners meetings.
    00:00 intro
    02:25 Dan Duggan Joins the Show
    04:50 Anything of Note from the Owners meetings?
    06:15 Mara’s quotes or thoughts from the coaching staff?
    10:30 Kafka’s relationship with Daboll
    14:20 Evan Neals Future + Eluemunor role
    18:56 Out bidding the Vikings for JJ McCarthy or trade back
    23:00 Will Waller be Back
    27:50 Thought on the Burns Trade
    30:00 Are the Giants Rebuilding?
    39:45 Buzz Word
    41:40 Wink Martindale and Final thoughts
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Komentáře • 151

  • @MD-es3rv
    @MD-es3rv Před 2 měsíci +5

    Good show I apprechiate Dan on how he's honest, doesn't push any agenda, admits he doesn't really know something when he doesn't really know something. Doesn't try to run wild with speculation.

  • @visforvegan8
    @visforvegan8 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Bout time, you don't know how starved I am. Good to see Justin back and healthy.

  • @johnm8489
    @johnm8489 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Glad your feeling better Justin!

  • @brandonsamples9248
    @brandonsamples9248 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Let’s go!!! You know it’s gonna be good day when TG drops

  • @Bjready
    @Bjready Před 2 měsíci +1

    Good stuff guys... Love Talkin' Giants. Outstanding convo with Dan D., 😁 , very informative, true professionals, always on point. As a Giants fan it matters. No fantasy, No click baits, no joke... Just Talkin' Giants.😎 2X 👍👍

  • @gianpopo2007
    @gianpopo2007 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Like for bullying Nick to come on the show

  • @peterrandazzo5977
    @peterrandazzo5977 Před 2 měsíci

    Dan Duggan is the 🐐

  • @jonnay
    @jonnay Před 2 měsíci +5

    Need a "Bullying Works" T-shirt

  • @tsvimizrahi4667
    @tsvimizrahi4667 Před 2 měsíci

    Great stuff bobby justine

  • @jaketamsett4792
    @jaketamsett4792 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can’t wait to order my Nabers jersey

  • @christapia826
    @christapia826 Před 2 měsíci

    Welcome back Justin

  • @ChinChecker22
    @ChinChecker22 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Kafka deserves some of the MFing . Some of his play calls were atrocious 😂😂

  • @nazdub9538
    @nazdub9538 Před 2 měsíci

    Any thought that Marvin Harrison Jr be there at 6?

    • @kas3238
      @kas3238 Před 2 měsíci

      Definitely not

  • @runninstermz
    @runninstermz Před 2 měsíci +1

    Has anyone considered the giants might be the trade partner with the vikings and they take bo nix and ad mitchell or keon coleman? I can see a world where they do that i stead of moving up.

  • @michaelbryant8170
    @michaelbryant8170 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Let's draft ozune at 6 and penix at 47..my opinion best first 2 round picks

    • @Thagomizer-U235
      @Thagomizer-U235 Před 2 měsíci

      That would be awesome, if Penix is there at 47, if not then Bo Nix.

    • @shawnlee9454
      @shawnlee9454 Před 2 měsíci

      We have to get our CB in Rd 2. Rd 3 QB/DT/TE

    • @shawnlee9454
      @shawnlee9454 Před 2 měsíci

      First 2 Rds have to be STARTERS

    • @chawk1637
      @chawk1637 Před 2 měsíci

      If you want a QB you go round one. The vast majority of QBs that go 2nd round or later never become franchise QBs. Very low success rate. If you pass on one of the top QBs, you marry yourself to Jones for another 2 years, cause next year has almost no blue chip QB prospects.

    • @shawnlee9454
      @shawnlee9454 Před 2 měsíci

      @@chawk1637 you're not doing good research. The last 3 drafts when 5 QBs are taken in the 1st rd, 1999-only McNabb and Culpepper were successful. 2018- only Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are still with their draft team. Baker Mayfield has been a journey man. 2021-only Trevor Lawrence is starting and one of the 5 QBs taken is backing him up. All your Great QBs ( majority) have been taken in the later Rds. Joe Montana (3rd) We all know when Tom Brady was taken. Those are your guys recognized as the GREATEST

  • @andrewchristopher7138
    @andrewchristopher7138 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hi

  • @florida1289
    @florida1289 Před 2 měsíci

    JJ McCarthy film is excellent the knock on him is volume. He ran a 6.82 3-cone as a QB hes an elite athlete...none of ther other QBs this year are running a 6.82 including Jadyen Daniels.
    Giants need a QB bad...a QB gives hope for the future.

  • @THEGoDLiKeMIKE
    @THEGoDLiKeMIKE Před 2 měsíci

    44:50 we expect to talk to you soon
    Wp

  • @kevinburke6055
    @kevinburke6055 Před 2 měsíci

    I was Qb crazy at first now I’m all in on getting our WR1 Nabers Washington guy and who’s knows maybe Cards like Nabers over Harrison Jr and he drops to us assuming Vikings trade up to 5 to get McCarthy

  • @andreprice9234
    @andreprice9234 Před 2 měsíci

    They still don’t have a second starting corner. That’s a problem. Do you want to use a draft pick to try to get back in the first round to potentially get a qb when you need a corner.

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci +1

      On what planet is a CB more important than a QB.

    • @andreprice9234
      @andreprice9234 Před měsícem

      @@cooldude7821 I’m sure I didn’t say a CB was more important. I am saying they have a lot of needs and if you start trading picks to move up from 6 or move back into the first round for a QB, you’re losing at least your second Rd pick this year. Are you getting a competitive corner who can play opposite Banks in Rd 3,4,5,6? Ideally a CB isn’t more important than a QB, but you have an immediate need for a starting corner. However you feel about Jones, reality is you have a starting QB on the roster. You don’t have a second starting CB.

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před měsícem

      @@andreprice9234 Ok, understandable.

  • @DocOct
    @DocOct Před 2 měsíci

    Neal is Flowers 2.0, a better guard than tackle. However with the media reports about his attitude and ego, don’t you think he will be better on another team, just like Flowers? Great job guys and let’s go blue!

  • @alexnitz9846
    @alexnitz9846 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Idc if the qb class isn’t good next year, if we take a wr1 and our O line is better. DJ will ball out and we will stick with him

    • @yepdontcarebud
      @yepdontcarebud Před 2 měsíci +2

      Delete this now and save yourself the future embarrassment.

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      You obviously forgot to take your meds today.

  • @riggz46
    @riggz46 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Just draft the best players available and if u find a developmental project at qb then go there ie. Joe Milton from Tennessee maybe as a 4th or 5th rounder.
    We can't reach for another QB

    • @CINO0816
      @CINO0816 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Nix in rd 2

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      If they draft a QB in round 1. Then the HC & GM don't see it as a reach.

    • @yepdontcarebud
      @yepdontcarebud Před 2 měsíci

      Imagine thinking that relying on a 5th round pick is a PLAN at QB lol every single day I read something here that further confirms that study that said giants fans were the dumbest in the league.
      Btw WRs can bust too 🤯🤯🤯

  • @JohnMoog-ug6bk
    @JohnMoog-ug6bk Před 2 měsíci

    I agree with Dan about lack of progress. This is really the first year of the rebuild. 2 years wasted, especially on O line.

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

  • @thethrillcollins
    @thethrillcollins Před 2 měsíci +1

    Bobby Skinnier

  • @ChuckSanders-ct8hr
    @ChuckSanders-ct8hr Před 2 měsíci

    Why haven’t the Giants resigned Simmons? They are very thin with LB depth and he did a very good job last year when on the field.

    • @jackfriedman3877
      @jackfriedman3877 Před měsícem

      Wow, literally got a re-signing notification as I was reading ur comment.

  • @23ryanfisher
    @23ryanfisher Před 2 měsíci

    Guys…Waller isn’t going anywhere until after June 1. Go look at the salary cap difference and then you will understand why. It’s like enough money to sign most of the draft class.

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      The dead money gets pushed to 2025. I seriously doubt he leaves 15 mil on the table considering he's clearly close to the end of his career.

    • @yepdontcarebud
      @yepdontcarebud Před 2 měsíci +1

      You can designate guys to be a post 6/1 cut before 6/1

  • @dylanbob3909
    @dylanbob3909 Před 2 měsíci

    Bobby “Skinnier”’s fav Phish show?

  • @ToneFury
    @ToneFury Před 2 měsíci +2

    Everybody seems to write last year off as some big disaster..with all that we had going on,we won 6 games and pretty much gave away 3 other games. I really dont think we're as far off as people may think

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      We gave away both NY games last year. Should have been 8-9. Which is remarkable considering the circumstances. We're nowhere near contenders. But I wouldn't be shocked if we sneak back into the playoffs with a 9-8 record.

    • @ToneFury
      @ToneFury Před 2 měsíci

      @@cooldude7821 we gave away the rams game too..if we can at least be an AVERAGE offense,we'd be a playoff team

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ToneFury Agreed.

    • @pcarlson214
      @pcarlson214 Před 2 měsíci

      I'd agree, except it was the way Giants lost games that hurt. If the Cowboys beat the Giants 27 to 21 in week one, I wouldn't have blinked an eye...however, 40 -0? At times the Giants looked simply outclassed. The record itself did not bother me that much, it was a killer schedule.

    • @ToneFury
      @ToneFury Před 2 měsíci

      @@pcarlson214 that's ONE game though..there were plenty of other games that we were in...if we lost EVERY game like that,I'd be more concerned

  • @AmazingGuy13
    @AmazingGuy13 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The Giants have to still draft a guard in the 2nd round

    • @shanehall8447
      @shanehall8447 Před 2 měsíci

      Why?

    • @phillipcrocker-hu5sj
      @phillipcrocker-hu5sj Před 2 měsíci +1

      Draft a guard in the fifth round not the second round

    • @achilles8936
      @achilles8936 Před 2 měsíci

      Huh? No way. Maybe later rounds. They have other needs

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      He wants a WR in round 1 & a guard in round 2 so DJ can sit in his wheelchair in the back field with his neck brace on & fire passes from a T-shirt gun.

    • @555crooked
      @555crooked Před 2 měsíci +1

      Qb in 2nd round. If Penix is available

  • @Bjready
    @Bjready Před 2 měsíci +1

    Brian Burns... See this is where I get kinda of nausea,... Fear is the cause of it. I can't stop thinking if this is Dave Gettlemen's Leonard Williams. Say what you will, but I thought he was average for the money that the Giants were paying him for. I know edge is a premium position, and desperately needed, but also I am reminded of what good pass rushers can do without a defensive back field. Though, I believe the Giants are on their way. I will refrain from explaining what way that is... Because to tell you the truth I really don't know 🤐

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Clowney just went for 2 years & 20 million. Why not just go that route.

    • @Bjready
      @Bjready Před 2 měsíci

      @@cooldude7821 I like the signing, but not for the price, Brian Burns. Guys like Clowney play for the moment. Now you see them now you don't. Plus he's a Vet, and a good one to... You know the saying, ," with icing on top" well he's after that. The sprinkles.... Literally 😂

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Bjready Yep. Trades like this are usually done by contenders who are a piece away. We're about a bucket of chicken & 2 sides away. I like the player. Not sure about the timing of the move.

  • @achilles8936
    @achilles8936 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Like Howard Cross said, Daboll is acting like Parcells or any tough coach in recent memory. Anyone who is offended by him showing emotion is clearly a snow flake and should watch golf or tennis

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      Snow flake. Hmmm.

    • @achilles8936
      @achilles8936 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@cooldude7821 would you prefer the word “soft”

  • @Bjready
    @Bjready Před 2 měsíci +1

    McCarthy is a major mistake. I am not a scout, but I'm not blind either. Michigan had a great team, they won the national championship, beat Alabama and the Buckeye's, in prime time... That's hard to do. What scares me about McCarthy is that he didn't out perform his role. He wasn't asked to be a gunslinger. How do you break a habit of throwing the ball when necessary vs throwing it 40 times a game. What have you missed by throwing it less❓How do you know, when to throw the ball, vs when not to, if your not throwing it enough❓ I've seen to many QBs, like McCarthy, in my 20 years of watching pro football, that have not succeeded successfully in the NFL... Not never, but highly unlikely.

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      How many QB's like Daniels, Williams & Maye have you seen not succeed either in your 20 years.

  • @johnb3829
    @johnb3829 Před 2 měsíci

    Good to see Justin back in action, dropped some good questions in there too.

  • @Danny2Zay
    @Danny2Zay Před 2 měsíci

    non-congested Justin = non-concussed Anthony Rizzo
    or a non-injured Daniel Jones (not a baseball podcast)

  • @RacerXdBrother
    @RacerXdBrother Před 2 měsíci

    This is the best QB draft in over a decade. No dis to you, but your opinion on McCarthy is no better than any other fan. The fact and film is out there, specialists who make a living evaluating talent are telling you that JJ McCarthy is a top 4 QB based on several factors including his overall grasp of the game and competitive attitude. McCarthy is a far better prospect than Jones was, or Lock or fill in the blanks. Any one who took the time to watch and listen to this kid can see that. The Giants should move up to 4 and the target is McCarthy or Maye period. We'll see.

  • @Bjready
    @Bjready Před 2 měsíci

    Evan Neal... They don't know! Nobody knows... Carmen B. was hired for this very reason, to know what is and whats not. If the Giants knew who the starting 5 would be, there would be no need for Carmen B. He is not here just for Evan Neal. I don't believe this is a situation where Neal get more training. Time is up for Neal! That I believe for certain... The Giants are not going into the season with Neal at RT. What has changed since his injury to now... absolutely nothing. He going to perform or be benched. Evan Neal's career with the Giants now depends on Evan Neal accepting his fate... That is wherever Carmen B. wants him. Daboll is on the seat, regardless of what you and I think, because nobody's is bigger than the Giants, head coach included and winning is bigger than both. I like Brain 🧠 Daboll and I believe he's gonna make it happen with Neal or without.

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      Not really sure about any of this.

  • @resdabest27292
    @resdabest27292 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Let Kafka go and let Daboll call the plays. Kafka sucks at calling plays. We constantly start off slow on offense. Let Daboll be the OC and HC.

  • @AmazingGuy13
    @AmazingGuy13 Před 2 měsíci +36

    The Giants are not drafting a QB. They are staying at 6 and drafting a WR.

  • @levident633
    @levident633 Před 2 měsíci

    First 🔵🫡

  • @khawarsiddiqui341
    @khawarsiddiqui341 Před 2 měsíci

    Giants picks 5-11 in the modern era 80s to now:
    Cedric Jones, Kayvon Thibodeaux, Daniel Jones, Ike Hilliard, Evan Neal, Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple, Ron Dayne, Mark Haynes. It is certainly not a list of very impressive NYG careers when you consider how high these players were taken…Just saying….

    • @aaarauz1
      @aaarauz1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      depressing list but I had high hopes for Ike. edit: Mark Haynes is a champion

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The draft capital & the talent just aren't adding up.

    • @khawarsiddiqui341
      @khawarsiddiqui341 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@aaarauz1 Mark Haynes is my favorite player from that list. We took him 44yrs ago. We have not picked an AP like Haynes between picks 5-11 overall in 44 yrs man! Think about that.

    • @aaarauz1
      @aaarauz1 Před měsícem +1

      He was only of the guys that helped us turn the corner, no doubt. Then left for Broncos, (he's a colorado guy, so I forgave him :) ) but it would have been nice to pair him w/ Mark Collins.

    • @aaarauz1
      @aaarauz1 Před měsícem +1

      @@khawarsiddiqui341 sad.

  • @bobante69
    @bobante69 Před 2 měsíci

    There are very fee times where owners have allowed coaching staffs to sit on their ass and wait for a perfect QB prospect to fall into their lap. And 90% of those cases require the coach to put up winning seasons in the meantime. At some point you have to take a shot on an imperfect prospect and pray it works out. Rolling the dice with a questionable young QB isn’t a perfect plan but being a middling team isn’t either. Shit or get off the pot

  • @pikebishop215
    @pikebishop215 Před 2 měsíci

    If the Giants want to win in 2024, the Giants will not draft a quarterback with the 6th pick in the first round. Such a quarterback will not improve the Giants in 2024. A wide receiver will dramatically help the Giants in 2024.

  • @alexiscollazo4907
    @alexiscollazo4907 Před 2 měsíci +1

    People forget Evan Neal is only 23 he's still developing

    • @aaarauz1
      @aaarauz1 Před 2 měsíci

      developing into an asshole

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@aaarauz1 Don't tell me. You're perfect.

    • @FRANTHESCRAM
      @FRANTHESCRAM Před 2 měsíci +2

      You can’t develop fast feet. Either you are born with It or not. Move his ass to guard

    • @aaarauz1
      @aaarauz1 Před 2 měsíci

      says the douchebag w/ a handle like @@cooldude7821. GFY, apologist

    • @aaarauz1
      @aaarauz1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@cooldude7821 - He's a guy who's done crap at this level who is not willing to help his FO or the team by moving to what he perceives to a 'less lucrative' position. He can go pound sand and you're defending an ass.

  • @r.lewisrogers7776
    @r.lewisrogers7776 Před 2 měsíci

    Get Nabors at the 6th pick and I’ll be in joy mode 😀

  • @roger7205
    @roger7205 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Justin I hope you see this. Get your ass in the gym daily. You are too young to be perpetually ill. I swear every episode you have something going on.

  • @pimpnamedslickback7780
    @pimpnamedslickback7780 Před 2 měsíci

    Daniel jones having yet another season ending injury and making an extra 25 million is going to be nasty. Can’t believe how many of you championed that ridiculous contract

    • @cooldude7821
      @cooldude7821 Před 2 měsíci

      A lot of delusional giants fans actually had the audacity to say that the DJ contract was gonna end up being a bargain in 2 years when we signed him in March of 2023 because all the top QB's were gonna get 50 a year.

    • @dantegioiasz2180
      @dantegioiasz2180 Před 2 měsíci

      at the time it made sense

  • @christianstriano8929
    @christianstriano8929 Před 2 měsíci

    Why do you say Eluemunor like such a clown

  • @user-ol3xe5fz4u
    @user-ol3xe5fz4u Před 2 měsíci

    frikk...give neal a year away from awful bobby johnson!!!!!