MFG 2016: Greensand for Vegetable Gardens: What Is It, How Do I Use It, Do I Need It?
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- This video focuses on explaining Greensand and its uses for vegetable gardens. I discuss where it comes from, how to use, the cost and do you really need it. Do you absolutely need Greensand? No, in my opinion but I want you to decide. It has an application I like and therefor I use it for a specific need but it is not absolutely needed. My goal is to inform you about many of the products out there so you can determine if it is product you want to buy and use. Simple!
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You do a great job of explaining soil amendments and fertilizers. I’ve come to believe that a lot of these amendments, like azomite and green sand, are superfluous and on top of that don’t really do much, and are super expensive. If I used all the amendments that are recommended for organic gardening, it would not be cost effective grow vegetables. I decided some time ago to try to find local sources and cheaper alternatives. For instance, Tractor Supply has crushed oyster shells, sold as chicken feed, for less than $20 for 50 pounds. Added to the soil, it increases calcium and other minerals. I live on the Gulf Coast, and oyster shells are plentiful. If I wanted to, I could make my own crushed oyster shells, but I’d rather buy them than spend the time making my own. Tractor Supply also has Alfalfa pellets which add NPK and minerals.
The reason for greensand is not for fertilization as much as remineralization of your soil the trace minerals are what are missing in top soils and these also feed the microbiology in the soil. Typically these take years to show affect but it's like a bank account over time the more you add the "wealthier" you become or in this case the more elements build up and break down over years. Creating drainage is a benefit in heavy clay but this is best for the remineralization of your soil and feeding your microbiology also adding natural pest and disease prevention due to the increased trace minerals and microbiology multiplication in your soil which is also dependent on your watering method chlorinated tap versus filtered de chlorinated water which promotes biology in your soil which is really what it is all about in organic garden feed the microbes feed the soil and in return feed yourself with healthier more nutrient dense food
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Thank you so much for your very detailed coverage of pros and cons of this product, especially pricing. Years ago, I bought Eliot Coleman's book, Four Season Harvest. He recommended greensand and phosphate rock for new garden beds, and thereafter adding both of these to the compost. I bought huge bags and they lasted me for years. Since I am about out of both, I started doing some research before replacing them. I"m sure, back in the day, prices were more reasonable, but both of these products are pretty expensive today. Your explanations of fertilizers is greatly appreciated. I'm learning a lot and saving money! If we're going to spend so much time gardening, might as well do it right! Keep these videos coming.
My opinion since your plants can't read, you want something that is GOOD and cheap. Free is better than cheap. When, I used to go fishing regularly, I would always take a bucket and save seaweed.
Often, the seaweed would have small shrimp etc in it. I would also flat compost leaves. My vegetable patch was unbelievable in terms of production. FREE IS GOOD.
thanks for that Gary. I also do metal casting as a hobby. the sand and clay mix that we use for the casting process is also called green sand. I bought some silica sand to make this mix and it looks just like that green sand. I wonder if that would be a cheaper way to buy it. it came in I believe 50 or 80 pound bags. I will have to look the bags and see what they look like
+Organic Gardening in North Carolina Oh you might be 100% right. Epsom salt for your feet is cheaper than buying it for your garden. Can you let me know the product you buy.? I will be glad to look it up.
Gary- the bucket of Jersey Greensand I buy states it has no plant nutrition. $14/1lbs bucket. I place a tablespoon of it on top of the soil when I transplant from cells to cups. Once it absorbs water and then drys it hardens up and prevents knats from laying eggs and fungus. Its a prevention step I use, its not nessary. What ever falls into the planting hole, if there is nutrition, even better. It drys faster than the soil so it makes it hard to determin if the soil needs moisture. So i follow a 2 day schedual of watering from the bottom, and I can also tell by weight. Also the little 8oz styrofoam cups will float if the soil is completely dry. So I'll choose a cup and test it with a bowl of water. Great Video!!!
+Sabine RiverAuthority Really interesting use. Prevention is great practice. I might give it a try.
+Gary Pilarchik (My First Vegetable Garden)
Remember Jerry Carlin? He used to post alot here. Anyway the three of us had this discussion a few years ago, when i got damping off. Its actually his method. :)
Oh hey, I just left a comment asking for a nice fertilizer for container gardening and then I watch this video and bam... there it is. Your channel is great. :) Really glad I found you.
+NotOfThisAge Glad it helped. I just want people to know that there is a lot out there and you don't have to over pay.
I believe that azomite and greensand can go a long way if added to a hot compost pile!
Thanks.
Just found this. Thanks for speaking to this product. Great analysis and review.
Thanks for sharing Gary. More good information. I don't remember seeing this product. Best wishes Bob.
Elizabeth L. Johnson said, This was so helpful! Thank you.
Thanks ELJ!
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I know most places that sell greensand show a 0-0-.1 all except one. There is some greensand from gardeners supply that shows greensand at 0-1-6 . Its 5 lbs at $12.95 plus shipping. I ordered a container of it and will give it a test run and see what I get.
It is cool but best in a soil with Nature as it needs to breakdown too even though its not organic. It wont do much in sterile starting mix indoorks.
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I will need to add worm castings to both test pots for equality.
Thank you so much for this . I was so wondering what it was.
+knitnpaint Glad to help
Man cannot live on NPK alone ... :)
What about Super Greensand Micronized, 68 Minerals and Trace Elements including 10% total potash by Verde AgriTech?
way over priced...
Thank you, so sorry if you covered this question but I am using cups so do I sprinkle or mix the sand in the soil? And how often? I do have a bug problem.
Very informative. I just don't think that it's all that worth it. Looks like a decent product!! Love the idea of trace elements. But it's just not there. Maybe combined with some other fert..
+Tom Kershaw I like the idea of trace elements too but I also like just adding stuff to the garden LOL. Most gardens have the trace elements. But for my use I make a little mix for container soil and use it that way. When it is gone, I might buy more if I find it on sale.
how quickly does it breakdown if at all ? is this like meal bone? or tougher
Tougher but goes along way
great vid very informative thanks Gary
+Jerry Devorss Hope it helps you make choices that best help your garden
Hi. Could you do a video covering SOIL LIFE? In example, what will make the soil too salty after a couple of years.
+Water Drops Garden I will think about it. If you use the processed/chemical fertilizers at low levels, compost and get rain.... it is very hard to get salt concentrations. The true chemical damage to soil life really happens on mass scale farming.
Gary Pilarchik Thanks for thinking about it. For containers and grow bags, they are saying to add 10-10-10 around the edges with Epson salt and lIme mixed in and the soil is ruined after 2 years. I bottom feed and water most plants in saucers, at 1/4 strength every 10 days. Your tip on feeding to much fertilizer was RIGHT ON THE MARK even with Kratky unless doing cucumbers. I was wondering about 10-10-10 top feeding and bottom watering a lot of the tomato's.
Do you know whether the mining of greensand is a sustainable practice? It sounds like there are other, more effective and less expensive options out there.
+lanastraea I don't know but that is part of my issue between organic, a processed fertilizer, sustainable, green etc. There is so much effecting our choices, I want people to be informed. You really don't need greensand. Its fun but not needed.
Thank You.
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+KALSINFILMS Wood ash what !!!! elaborate please.
+knitnpaint wood ash is a good source for potassium. Only drawback is it's highly alkaline. But it has lots of calcium and fair amount of trace minerals
Thank you so much.
Mine is pelletized. What gives?
Could you do a video on Potassium Chloride ( Muriate of Potash ) 0 - 0 - 60
Is this a worth while Fert?
+dj - bb Also what are you thoughts on azomite to provide the trace elements needed by plants?
+dj - bb I haven't used it. Worth for me is actual cost. If it is inexpensive and you need potassium, I would use it. However, 60 is really high, A quarter dose would be fine. It is also a SALT which if over used can harm soil life. But for our home gardens, sensible use of any fertilizer really wont do harm. IMO
+dj - bb The trace and micro elements are sooo sooo low that most soil has them. However, again if the azomite is inexpensive, nothing wrong with it. Do plants need it probably not. My example is really healthy container plants that are grown on JUST NPK. And maybe that's because I toss some earth soil into my container mixes.
I would use Potassium Nitrate instead. Chlorine is not something that is required in any substantial amount for healthy plant growth.
Hi Gary.. Say can you use any type of sand? Like Quikrete 50 lb. All-Purpose Sand to make sandy soil for things like potatoes and sweet potatoes?
Any sand is fine as long as it is naturally and your not adding in anything you dont want.
I Was just checking because plan is to make Raised bed just for Sweet potato's and regular potato's and i know they like loose soil because here in cleveland ohio we have that somewhat clay soil
You don't realize the essentials of the green sand goodbye😢
I do. Its not essential as soils have much of it. Goodbye.