@Lizzie Allen even criminal who buy gun illegally get background check by the seller, to buy gun illegally you need to gain some form of street cred and people who have that won't be shooting school then go harder on illegal gun market, treat them the same as drug ring purge the street from illegal gun why can't we do both kill the illegal gun market and fix every loop hole in legal gun buying that exist to prevent people like the shooter to get gun
@Lizzie Allen we are the most powerful and the richest country in the world but we give up on some common crooks, where are our money we can go hard on illegal gun ring but no let's give it to the military so they can secure oil for the company
Remember when we watched movies like Home Alone 3, and in films like those, the adults were unhelpful and useless morons while the kids were the ones who step up to the plate and save the day? Yeah, it’s not nearly as funny when that shit happens in real life.
That dude who said “Do you really think that seventeen year olds will do a national protest?” I couldn’t help but feel pride in my heart because that’s exactly what they did. I am really proud to be part of March For Our Lives, and participate in the protest.
@@doc8013 Not that this is even relevant any more, but in regards to teens doing these protests, yes they got bored and went home. Nothing changed and they gave up before anything was done.
@@sparkplug1018 wow, could you be more clueless and dare I say, ignorant? Those "bored" teenagers and teenagers alone organized over 700 marches in American cities and another 100 globally making it the largest single day of protest in the history of our nation's capital. Literally the largest the world has ever seen. Let that sink in a moment. Sure, they did in fact go home, after demonstrating the largest ever organized effort ever produced. Now, that's sures up your carelessness on the matter. Now, let's delve into the ignorant portion of your assessment. "They gave up before anything was done." I mean, REALLY?! Kid, change doesn't happen overnight. They can not protest in the tens of thousands day after day in major metropolitan areas. They can't NOT finish their education because they chose instead to scream in the streets, as that would actually inhibit them from conquering their ultimate goal of bettering themselves for the sake of the future. You want to sit behind your keyboard talking down to kids who went through a horrible tragedy and turned that into a massive demonstration that literally captured the eyes of the world. Change isn't just about legislations and law, it's about perception and influence and knowledge. Because without that, you'll never be able to evolve anything, especially legislation. You think MLK marched once and got his equality? You think those teenagers that lead the organization just dropped the cause because they aren't holding signs in the street? NO! Just because you can't watch their activity on your computer doesn't mean they aren't still working. And you not seeing the relevance of this whole thing at this particular time in history just goes to show your lack of perception. C'mon man, you can do better.
@@doc8013 And did the Civil Rights protesters give up before accomplishing their goals? NO! they kept at it until the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. They never gave up, they never relented. The kids protesting gave up when they got bored with it, pure and simple. Nothing changed, they had no clue what to change, and were content with making some noise. Do you know what you call a movement, protest or campaign with no clear goal or path towards victory? Its called a failure. And until the day comes when they can unify under a clear and well thought out argument, it will always fail. Interesting side note, if they'd bothered to do any kind of research they'd have realized there already exists a law that could give them pretty much everything they want, with a few simple reclassifications, AND give the pro-gun side what they want. And its been on the books since 1934! But I'm not supposed to point that out right? We are supposed to just relent and give in without any push back because thats "clueless' and "ignorant" right?
I grew up in El Savador in the 80’s when the whole country went up in flames for your beloved socialism... so yes, when they come for you at night and your “feelings” won’t save you... you are more than happy you can protect yourself... I would not let a hormonal teen dictate policy... and i have seen a ton of dead people... and you can kiss my ass....
alejandromolinac I’m saying they have the right to speak on the matter because they’ve experienced it. I ain’t said anything about a person not being to protect theirselves.
lioneaglegriffin I didn’t say they were experts. But for someone who’s in a position of power who’s never been a victim to criticize them or talk down on them for speaking up on the matter is not only insensitive to the victims it’s irresponsible leadership.
Return of Zeus Ah yes hello. You see the problem with what you are saying is that it’s about as out there as they get. If you don’t understand, let me put it more simply: you are stark raving mad. Sorry.
Sir Librarian It's best to just leave the dense conspiracy theorists to their ridiculous conspiracies. Let the stupidity speak for them. They clearly don't care what anyone has to say, as long as they have an excuse that fits their own personal opinion or agenda. They only speak about shit like this when it's convenient for them.
The conspiracy theory? Imagine go through that horror and people call you fake. Imagine go through all that trauma and people call you too emotional and too young. Imagine a country that kids have to be afraid of being gunned down, afraid enough to have to speak up... oh wait, you don’t have to imagine.
The boy's CZcams account was posted on the news clip from 6 months ago. It takes all of 5 minutes to figure out that Hogg is a real student and that he is indeed a classmates of the others speaking up. There's even a map of FL in one of his videos. People are absolutely stupid to believe this to be a "conspiracy". Have we truly lost objective truth and facts to hearsay? I remember learning in school that just because someone posts it on the Internet doesn't mean that it is the truth. Did more than half the population miss that lesson?
Teenagers: "We want comprehensive legislation to solve a pressing social problem, namely us getting shot in the face because we're going to our legally mandated schooling." NRA: "WHAAAA!! WE WANT OUR TOYS!!!" Commentator: "Those teenagers are so immature."
"Comprehensive legislation" is just another way of saying you have absolutely no ideas. If you ever read a history book you'd know the 2nd amendment isn't about having fun toys or hunting.
"Do we really think 17 year olds on their own are going to plan a nation wide rally?". Honestly, these kids have far better common sense than the adults who look down on them or call them "paid actors". They'll never forget this moment. Not now and not when they become voters.
Lisa Kelly Don’t forget Conservative Republicans secretly love abortions too, especially when it’s from their mistresses 😜 www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/05/gop-rep-tim-murphy-resigns-after-reports-asked-mistress-to-get-abortion.html
it's me Joolz because gun violence in schools is just like super later term abortion. Those fetuses were only like 200 months old and had their lives ripped away by some maniac.
My mom told me I should leave the house more. I participated in a gun reform rally with my peers and got on the local news. I'm not saying it'll change everything, but I'm saying I can try. Now people are telling me to get back into the house. I'm not getting back into the house.
Teenagers who survived mass shooting: We need stronger gun control. Rep: You're Kids! Middle schoolers eating Obama- designed meal: Waaa! I don't wanna eat veggies! Rep: WE SPEAK FOR THE CHILDREN OF AMERICA!
I- Michelle Obama tried to fix it, middle schoolers have more common sense then you will ever have. Grow up. You don't speak for children, children speak for themselves.
+Kitty Hatchet... NRA stands for US CITIZENS predominantly fighting to KEEP US CONSTITUTIONAL Right to HAVE and BEAR ARMS... against which today is becoming more evident a US-ROGUE Gov controlled by an ELITE Few www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/11/burying-sharon/
except you as a private citizens owning guns are anywhere near the well organized militia part of second amendment... you can kiss judge Scalia´s dead ass for this dumbfuckery, called individual right to bear arms.
kylebrasuel Nice fake af troll account, Ivan. Why don't YOU stop using that dumbass debunked BS argument, huh? Australia proved gun control can work. Stop lying, comrade.
Why do people always do the math backwards? The question should be, given the increased number of school shootings AND the commensurate increase in active shooter drills, what are the odds that these two events would *not* intersect at some point? The probably of a coincidence happening is virtually meaningless; the number you want to look at is the probably over time of a coincidence never happening - in other words the chance that an outcome did not happen by chance. Spreading conspiracy theories is one thing, but flagrant disregard for the laws of probability? Unforgivable.
I liked what Trevor said. Republicans think these kids are too young to talk about gun violence or solve this issue, but yet in 1 year they can go out and buy as many guns as they want. One minute they're not adult enough, the next minute they are.
Kingston sounds like he's never seen the inside of a high school. students of my high school organized and staged a counter-protest in less than 8 hours after receiving word that an anti-abortion group would be setting shit up outside our school.
The rhetoric these "pundits" are using to disempower these kids is both instructive and disgusting. Too young to know what they are talking about? Maybe say that after someone has fired an AR-15 at you.
From El Salvador... endured terrorism, car bombs, death squads, kidnappings and extorsions... my extended family reads like an obituary... so yeah.. i can fire a gun... and you will just get an ilegal market...
Eric Brinkman they’re too young to know what they’re talking about! And I’ve had an AR fired in my direction. Not that that needs to be a qualifier for a voice in a debate. That’s a child’s argument. Have you ever fired an AR-15? Do you own a gun? If not then you should talk about gun control. See how stupid your logic sounds?
Eyeout they do have the right to speak that guy was being condescending because they are young I’m not saying they are the most qualified but to assume they don’t know what they’re talking about shows how small minded you are.
What the fuck does them being able to vote have to do with them telling people they should do something about kids getting shot in the face by the mentally ill? And stop insulting people, you diseased rabbit scrotum... Or at least be more creative with your insults ;P
Jayy Zee well I mean. Its a bit of both. Womens culture has become a bit more open, thus provoking the mentally ill rapist even more. Though thats not the cause, just a factor
Jayy Zee dude not the same, rape victimization has been overused by SJW's and has since been less believable. Shooting victimization has more wide affect rather than a single person at a time.
Alan Walker No it’s just been more widely blown out. It happens way more then you would think and if you stop believing them when they start yelling about the issue then you just don’t like it when things get put on the spotlight
Jack Kingston. Wake up. It's the old people like you that's the problem. Yes these kids may have adult help but welcome to 2018. All it takes is just one tweet, one Facebook post, one message and things get going. No more calling everyone and having meetings and sending out carrier pigeons to get messages out.
Mike Hoard LOL sure with this tech age words can spread like wildfire but what I'm finding out is that too much screen time makes you a mindless zombie when it comes to personally interaction. These teens are proof of that.
LIAM Productions, indeed. Ask any magician, hobbyist or professional, and they will tell you stories about magic tricks that fool every adult, but kids get instantly how it works.
LIAM Productions, my explanation is that kids learn new stuff every day, but adults are expected to just know stuff on first glance, so we are stuck in our patterns of perception. "Desensitized to BS" is a good way to put it, thank you for that, I might use it... ;o)
AFTER a mass shooting? I'm afraid it has now become necessary to talk about gun control BETWEEN mass shootings. A few more years and it will be DURING.
Boii bye they aren’t the ones with constant danger going to school, fearing that some kid might come and shoot them. You know how many warnings we (the school I attend) had. We had 3. Two were people with weapons and one was a bomb threat. The fact that they still have the audacity to refuse to listen to these kids is just unbelievable
KookieMonsterWants HisSugaKookie they don't care until their own kids got gunned down, which is very unlikely because they are in private schools. Just like how draft dodgers Baby Bush and Trump are very warmongering because they have never been in an actual war.
Well he'll do something. He'll be damned if he doesn't because these kids are not going to stop no matter what slander the NRA politicians throw at them. This one doesn't look like it's going away anytime soon.
Asmodeus I am a Baby Boomer and my generation did a TERRIBLE job raising Millennials, they are the worst. I have a new found respect for Generation Z though.
lol this guy saying the people winning gold medals in the olympics and figuring out how to send completely reusable rockets into space and solving the worlds energy crisis and diseases are shittier than people who eat tide pods for 12 seconds of internet fame.
I don't see what the problem is. If Donald Trump is actually offering help, you should take it and try to hold him to his word. I can just imagine a bill to ban bump stocks and make background checks more thorough coming with a ton of unpalatable laws on the side though.
Jack Kingston is a moron. He also likes blaming kids for being on free and reduced lunch. He once wanted to make an example of them by making them clean the cafeteria in return for the free meals. The guy hates kids imo.
Jack Kingston has gone after kids before. He wanted poor kids to be pulled from classrooms to clean the schools if they were on free lunch. He is a Dickensian villain.
"[Teenagers] probably have not studied a complicated, multi-layered issue." "We're just trying to not let 17 of us get shot in the fucking face again." Nothing uncomplicates things faster than the threat of death.
To be fair, guns are the easy weapon of choice to go for, considering half of all American households have a firearm. And even if they were taken away, the really bad people would resort to home built explosives. Good times with one of those tossed into a packed classroom. Finally, banning guns just hides the real problem - the cause encouraging all these people to pick up guns and shoot up schools in the first place. High schools being where social cliques begin to form and relationships become a HUGE focus of One's life, the pressure is positively insane if you're the odd man out. Schools represent many things - young love, friendship, family, a future... to take young lives is to say "FUCK YOU" to everyone they feel is denying them that life in the loudest way possible. It's a sort of the ultimate cry of frustration at being left out of the social game and failing at life, and one that can't be simply ignored by their peers whom can't be arsed to even try to get to know them for XYZ reasons the shooter may perceive to be unchangeable. Or in other words - If One wants the recognition and respect every human being craves but no one is going to love them, then they'll get people to fear them instead. This is my working theory anyway. It's not as simple as "just take guns away." It will mitigate future outbursts, but guns are the low hanging fruit. The core issue of violent attacks won't go away without them, and it's something society will probably have to come to terms with itself over, since monsters don't just pop up out of nowhere. It takes a monster to make a monster.
"Here's what I find funny about this debate...most of the arguments boil down to one idea - teenagers are too young, too emotional, too inexperienced to talk about guns. But as soon as they turn 18, they can own as many of those bad boys as they want. And I guess in a way, this is how you know these students are having an effect. You've never seen gun advocates so desperate that they'd start attacking victims of a mass shooting. And that's the power of these teenagers." Thanks for your insightful thoughts, Trevor and team. I wish I could come up with arguments even 1/2 as eloquent as this when I'm angry slam-keyboard commenting back on Facebook threads...why do I keep getting trapped in devolving circles of lunacy...anyway, keep doing the good work!
As an American student all I can say is that I don’t wanna get shot in the fuckin face while I’m at school, a place I don’t even want to be at every day!
I saw that conspiracy theory today. It’s like they’ve never heard of someone going on vacation before or moving from another state. It’s disgusting these adults who are so attached to a weapon they’re blaming children who watched their friends die less than a week ago. Absolutely heartless.
Hey guys, ignore Sir spits a lot pleaseeee. We all know he's a douchehole (he knows it too btw, which is why he's a sad, sad semblance of a person) and we should instead laugh at what was another solid segment of the daily show. Even consider liking this comment to get the Itch to reply out of your system haha
Sir SpitsAlot Well aren’t you a racist piece of shit?! I fuck with the brothers and the Mexicans. It’s Nazi RepubliKKKans I feel nervous and apprehensive about.
Kids are acceptable collateral damage for conservatives, so long as they get to keep guns. These people clearly have no morals. The only place I have to deal with such people are on line, it's impossible to imagine being friends with someone who supports this shit.
why do people think 17 year olds are so incapable? in 12 months they’ll be adults who can do almost anything legally.. do they expect them to just randomly become mature the day they turn 18? i’m genuinely confused
Robert Bemister the statistics say otherwise. the approval ratings of America as a world leader have dropped significantly and I can assure you, here in Germany we are laughing our asses off about your government.
Robert Bemister I am german as well and I can assure you that Anti-Americanism is actually a huge thing, no matter if you are left or right. America has lost its role as the world's leading force, whether culturally, politically or economically.
My head hurts from the stupidity i have just watched. i am sorry, but what the hell is wrong with people ? Actors ? Not having a valid point because they are teenagers ? Really ?
The people making those statements don't have a real point to make, so the only thing left for them is to attack others. They're following the example of their supreme leader.
We need to promote this. Any politician that has get money for the gun manufacturing company has to be in a black list so when re-elections come back we won't vote for them.... let's start for senator Marco Rubio and ofcorse the actual president... this is the only way we are going to make them change mentality.... they are ok because their kids don't go to public education
God forbid a crazy ex student walks into a private school and does something crazy. They think they're safe. No one is safe, not high schoolers, middle school students, kindergarteners nor 1st graders, not church or temple goers, not politicians at a baseball practice, not country music concert attendees, not movie goers, not those attending clubs and office parties. What have I missed I am sure I've missed somewhere else.... oh yeah airports.... shopping malls (DC Sniper) This has to stop. I hope no one else has to be a victim. Let's make this violence stop. Ban the semi automatic guns.
Aisha, Banning semi-automatics, whether they are semi-automatic assault rifles, AR-15s (AR does *not* mean "Assault Rifle", by the way), or semi-automatic handguns will not stop violence on its own. Any effort to ban a weapon *must* be coupled with some change to our society as well, such as training teachers, students, and other members of the community to spot these people before they become violent, and how to reach out to them; teaching your kids to be compassionate and not bully their classmates; fighting the stigma associated with mental health; and increasing communication between local, state, and federal levels of law enforcement will also need to happen. Without those other changes (and probably more), I fear a weapons ban just means they'll learn how to build better bombs.
kassie raine well if the fbi won't do anything and the police officers who waited outside while innocent children were murdered inside the school won't protect us, who will? You liberals keep blaming gun owners and take guns away and you would think that you would have some insight as to why we need guns. Blame the shooter, not the gun.
Yes, absolutely, it is the shooters fault. I would mention though, that while you are right that it is the shooters fault, our nation, more specifically, the republican party, is doing its best to eliminate healthcare coverage for those that need it the most.You know, the type of people that can't hold down a job because of mental and personality disorders. No money, no decent healthcare...no psych drugs to help alleviate the mental health crisis. That, coupled with the extreme saturation of firearms in our society equals ridiculously high levels of gun violence. If a shooter wants to get a gun in America, all he need do is check his neighbors closet....or just buy one legally, because it is freakishly easy here.
Tell me, Kristine Bautz...would all these armed teachers require qualifications to carry a gun in a school? Would they have had a thorough backround check and mental evaluation done, completed and passed a 40+ hour gun safety and shooting qualification course, register their gun with the local police, and be at least 25 years of age?
Proud as hell of these kids. They're tired of this shit. So am I. I was 17 when Columbine happened, we haven't learned anything in prevention. We need tougher laws. Period
Sarah Richard what law would have stopped him? Hmmmm? Schools became a gun free zone in 1990. You can’t legally bring one one to the property. Maybe if the fbi had done their job or the cops then we wouldn’t have had this issue.
There was a rally at Tallahassee’s capital today. Not only if students that were victims of the shooting but also of students of other schools in Florida including my former High School. There is going to be another rally on March 24, both at Washington DC and once again at Tallahassee’s capital building.
They deserve a honorary degree? Wow, so that makes anybody who has ever been in a car accident deserve a civil engineering degree I guess. They should be designing roads and making traffic laws so no one ever loses their life to another car accident.
Early voting is already under way in Texas! It's open primary, so choose the party when you show up. It's unfortunate I can't cross Party lines, but I've got a particular Democrat I want to put at the head of the pack for congress, so I'll have to do the Democratic ticket. I'll just cross my fingers and hope the Republicans come to their senses and stop putting complete nutjobs on the top of the ticket. Unfortunately, I doubt that's going to happen.
My Getaway - there's nothing wrong with supporting the right to own weapons. It's the abject refusal to support any kind of potentially life-saving control measures, and the vile attempts to smear anyone who promotes them, that should get those asshats removed from office. I'm a liberal and I support the right to own weapons, but I don't support the right to own weapons of war, i.e. assault rifles.
in 1976 , it was high school students who stood up to the Apartheid government and military, and finally made the world see the plight of South Africa. We all know how that story ended. Point being, teens(especially fed-up teens who have been shot at in cold blood) can stage a rally.Washington really better watch out as these people will be 18 soon and capable of voting.
It's funny to me that some of the people verbally attacking the planning and speaking efforts of these students don't believe students can be articulate about a topic, can come up with rational position statements, or could plan a bus trip or march to speak out. It's as if they think all teenagers are drooling idiots who just want to stare at their mobile devices, play Xbox, and create Snaps. In actuality there are millions of highly motivated, very intelligent teenagers who will work tirelessly to make sure schools stop getting shot up. What we're seeing right now is just the beginning. Over time the crowd sizes may shrink but out of this we are going to see a number of vocal advocates continue to rise and be heard until lawmakers respond.
I know Americans seems they like they live in their own universe and probably don't care about the opinion of foreigners in other countries, but what's going on over there is extremely shameful, 1st there are more mass shootings there in a month than in my country's history 2nd the fact that after a mass shooting no one is allow to talk is ridiculous 3rd the fact that some people defend gun ownership the way they do it's beyond incredible 4th how can anyone try to shame and attack those kids!!!! there is obviously something very wrong with Americans, I really think that if people have the right mindset there wouldn't be so many mass shooting in the first place.
Rage Studios As an American citizen I completely agree. The 2nd amendent that allowed guns was made in the late 1700's was used to protect people from the government when the gun could only have shot 1 or 2 bullets a minute. Now the times have changed and the guns have changed, many of Americans think the gun laws should to. But many people hold onto the 2nd amendent saying that violates their rights as Americans. But guns are killing people, killing children and that is more important than a gun
Greg Henderson ikr it's so funny when they're shocked when a 10 year old says a real swear 😂 Like seriously kids aren't stupid and these "news" people used to be teens themselves it's like wtf? Also people take really hard assessment tests in 8th grade and that's middle school 15 is high school 😂
Why the fuck would people act about being in a mass shooting and losing friends and classmates? This just shows that the government doesn't want to deal with serious issues. It's fucking disgusting.
The previous generation failed us, but we will not fail our kids. No matter what happens, I will not let my children live in a country where guns are “god given rights” but education and healthcare are privileges.
Did the Kingston guy seriously bring up political parties during such a terrible time like this? No one has brain washed anyone! 17 people were murdered. Friends of students. People's children. People's spouses. Since when does a political party tell you how to feel after being in a mass shooting? What you do with your grief, depends on you. If you need to take a moment and grieve, go for it. If your grief is making you want to speak out, go for it. What has happened to America? This country is no longer recognizable.
+DPowered Smith Is that a serious question? They have to be & it has the added bonus of actually reinforcing the entire underlying framework of their bullsh-t. The Republican Party has a political agenda which is to cut taxes on rich people & corporations, eliminate or privatize "entitlements", deregulate businesses, spend a sh-tload on the military, & invade other countries. Now, who the f-ck do you think that type of agenda appeals to? It sure as sh-t isn't regular as- people. The only constituent group in the country that has a legitimate self-interest in supporting Republicans is like the top 1% of income earners in the country, that's it... literally no one else. Well you can't really win an election with that type of constituency can you? So, for decades they have searched out recesses of the American public with whom they could make some appeals to that would not interfere with their core agenda as outlined above & they found a few groups. 1) Religious extremists 2) Bigots/Racists. They put a 'lot of effort into getting these groups to vote for them & they have to keep going further out there to keep their support because they aren't ever going to half of the sh-t they promise these groups (either explicitly or implicitly,) because the ideas are beyond ridiculous, expensive, & a complete waste of time & energy, if not even unconstitutional. But, all their core agenda items actually f-ck over those other groups just like they do all the rest of us so these people's lives get sh-ttier which makes people more vulnerable to being caught up into one of these categories increasing the support people feel they have thus emboldening them & increasing the fervor for it because these groups don't just see the other side as people with a different opinions, but as actual threats to the country & their enemies. Combine all that with the fact that most of the money sloshing around in the system is on their side thus allowing them the dominance of am radio (local/regional talk shows,) small/local newspapers, local news channels, & the advertising on all media platforms thus giving them a strong editorial role in the content of everyone else thus diluting the opposing side's ability to put out certain messages. What you end up with is this endless f-cking loop of anger & hatred fueling extreme policies, never getting the policies promised, then getting more extreme in response & the political party stuck exploiting this extremely cynical & damaging to the society strategy because they aren't going to change their agenda & there agenda only appeals to a microscopic portion of the population.
Dude, its not conservatives, its some random lunatics who believes this shit, but keep adding to the fire... and keep on making conservative political ideas the villain of all tragedys. Funny thing though: there wont be a bipartisan solution. Btw getting rid of 2nd amendment equals civil war. Why would snybody want that?
I've always said not to force teenagers under the mindless, ignorant stereotypes that were created by the generation before. I've always said that teenagers are not stupid, and so have opinions and passions and beliefs. And this is proving every single point I've made. These teens are strong and empowered, and when given a reason, they can absolutely rock your shit.
Exactly, a few are, but then again apparently 70 percent of male white voters in Alabama would rather elect a pedofile than a democrat. Point being, some percentage of a population is always going to be stupid and it does't reallly seem to matter the age group.
Great job GOP who cares what these kids say its not like their going to be old enough to vote soon. And its not like its an election year, and its not like teens have methods to communicate with other young teen to vote who might not have voted before. Besides this is just florida its not like there are a lot of democrats there or theres a governors race there which could change the districts in the state to favor dems. I mean come on please when has Florida ever decided the faith of the country or decided who are next president would be. I think they did the smart move.
Tesla Stark When has *Florida* ever decided who the next president would be? You had a 49/50 chance of being correct in using an 'only one state' example there... Unfortunately (for you), it's actually the 'look at the difference just one state can make' example. 😁
Conspiracy theorists are out there claiming these teens are paid actors in part of a big secret conspiracy. Meanwhile Marvel Studios can barely trust Tom Holland to not leak the Infinity War script.
@Lizzie Allen I am not most people and absolutely will elaborate. Comprehensive background checks with no loop holes and red flag laws would be a good start as well as a ban on the sale of assault style weapons and oversized magazines. I am a veteran and know what that type of weaponry can do. They were designed for one purpose and one purpose only: to kill people as quickly and effectively as possible. They are no good for hunting as the rounds they fire shatter upon impact and the shards bounce around inside the body and shred the meat so it is unusable for eating. Also: it is not polite to be snarky like a two year old simply because someone does not agree with your opinion.
@Lizzie Allen For a moment there I thought you might be up for some substantive discourse about trying to keep kids from being killed by guns. Guess I was wrong. As for your thoughts on cell phones, alcohol and cars. I use public transport and don't drink so no skin off my teeth. But should YOU ever have your car break down in the middle of the night, it's my thinking that you would really appreciate having a phone with you. Now if you would like to talk about red flag laws and gun control, I'm up for it.
@Lizzie Allen I absolutely agree with you that people have the right to defend themselves. I don't advocate taking everyone's guns away and never said that. I would however, like to see assault rifles off the street because they ARE weapons of war. In my opinion there should also be stricter laws that would prevent folks with histories of domestic abuse, assault and battery and other acts of violence from having easy access to firearms. That is an area where red flag laws and thorough background checks would prove valuable in reducing the deaths of innocents. Is that too much to ask?
that last part about the NRA commercial was innaccurate , the Black guy would've gotten shot to death by cops in the video just because he mentioned guns.
I say we treat guns like cars. In order to have AND KEEP guns you have to pass regular background checks, vision test, written test, and practical test.
Noh Body also requiring a long waiting/training period after people first apply to own a gun (just like the learners permit for driver’s licenses) and giving gun manufacturers strict safety regulations (like how cars have seatbelts and airbags)
How idiotic and cruel do you have to be to believe that these kids are just actors? They're victims who lost friends and loved ones and they're victims who barely escaped with their lives. How could someone just accuse a victim of faking it? That's atrocious.
I pushed for Smartguns when l ran for Broward County Sheriff. And to deputize concealed weapon licenses. This freak is making folks laugh and cheer while 17 victims decompose. Typical.
It's surprising that people have been surprised at how eloquent these kids are. Kids today are immersed in politics at a much younger age, and they have fairly sophisticated political views by the time they're in their late teens.
It's funny how those 17 years olds have more common sense than most adults
@Lizzie Allen most criminals buy their gun legally through loopholes, so maybe you want to check up on the facts.
@Lizzie Allen even criminal who buy gun illegally get background check by the seller, to buy gun illegally you need to gain some form of street cred and people who have that won't be shooting school
then go harder on illegal gun market, treat them the same as drug ring purge the street from illegal gun
why can't we do both kill the illegal gun market and fix every loop hole in legal gun buying that exist to prevent people like the shooter to get gun
@Lizzie Allen we are the most powerful and the richest country in the world but we give up on some common crooks, where are our money we can go hard on illegal gun ring but no let's give it to the military so they can secure oil for the company
Fr. Omg. Our generation (gen z) is 100% the best.
@@ladiwaddell989 Gen Z has a lot of pros to it, maybe Gen Z can salvage what was ruined
Remember when we watched movies like Home Alone 3, and in films like those, the adults were unhelpful and useless morons while the kids were the ones who step up to the plate and save the day?
Yeah, it’s not nearly as funny when that shit happens in real life.
Home Alone 3?! 1 and 2 were the shit!
Yeah who watched home alone 3 didn't even have the same kid
Yeah but that kid was actually resourceful. Real kids are just eating Tide pods and don't vote.
Dandy 30 we are just eating tide pods. I even tried it. Tastes nasty
Kinda burns your tongue
That dude who said “Do you really think that seventeen year olds will do a national protest?” I couldn’t help but feel pride in my heart because that’s exactly what they did.
I am really proud to be part of March For Our Lives, and participate in the protest.
Seems most of them have gotten bored and went home though.
@@sparkplug1018 uh what?
@@doc8013 Not that this is even relevant any more, but in regards to teens doing these protests, yes they got bored and went home. Nothing changed and they gave up before anything was done.
@@sparkplug1018 wow, could you be more clueless and dare I say, ignorant? Those "bored" teenagers and teenagers alone organized over 700 marches in American cities and another 100 globally making it the largest single day of protest in the history of our nation's capital. Literally the largest the world has ever seen. Let that sink in a moment. Sure, they did in fact go home, after demonstrating the largest ever organized effort ever produced. Now, that's sures up your carelessness on the matter. Now, let's delve into the ignorant portion of your assessment. "They gave up before anything was done." I mean, REALLY?! Kid, change doesn't happen overnight. They can not protest in the tens of thousands day after day in major metropolitan areas. They can't NOT finish their education because they chose instead to scream in the streets, as that would actually inhibit them from conquering their ultimate goal of bettering themselves for the sake of the future. You want to sit behind your keyboard talking down to kids who went through a horrible tragedy and turned that into a massive demonstration that literally captured the eyes of the world. Change isn't just about legislations and law, it's about perception and influence and knowledge. Because without that, you'll never be able to evolve anything, especially legislation. You think MLK marched once and got his equality? You think those teenagers that lead the organization just dropped the cause because they aren't holding signs in the street? NO! Just because you can't watch their activity on your computer doesn't mean they aren't still working. And you not seeing the relevance of this whole thing at this particular time in history just goes to show your lack of perception. C'mon man, you can do better.
@@doc8013 And did the Civil Rights protesters give up before accomplishing their goals? NO! they kept at it until the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. They never gave up, they never relented.
The kids protesting gave up when they got bored with it, pure and simple. Nothing changed, they had no clue what to change, and were content with making some noise. Do you know what you call a movement, protest or campaign with no clear goal or path towards victory? Its called a failure.
And until the day comes when they can unify under a clear and well thought out argument, it will always fail. Interesting side note, if they'd bothered to do any kind of research they'd have realized there already exists a law that could give them pretty much everything they want, with a few simple reclassifications, AND give the pro-gun side what they want. And its been on the books since 1934!
But I'm not supposed to point that out right? We are supposed to just relent and give in without any push back because thats "clueless' and "ignorant" right?
If people who were present during a mass shooting aren’t qualified to speak on it then who dafuq is????
Thatdeal79 rich assholes
I grew up in El Savador in the 80’s when the whole country went up in flames for your beloved socialism... so yes, when they come for you at night and your “feelings” won’t save you... you are more than happy you can protect yourself... I would not let a hormonal teen dictate policy... and i have seen a ton of dead people... and you can kiss my ass....
Surviving a car crash doesn't make you a mechanical engineer.
alejandromolinac I’m saying they have the right to speak on the matter because they’ve experienced it. I ain’t said anything about a person not being to protect theirselves.
lioneaglegriffin I didn’t say they were experts. But for someone who’s in a position of power who’s never been a victim to criticize them or talk down on them for speaking up on the matter is not only insensitive to the victims it’s irresponsible leadership.
It's inspiring that students are standing together but despicable that conservatives will go so far as to attack victims
They are embarrassed knowing all they do is sit on their asses the whole day.
Believe the word you seek is deplorable...
Return of Zeus Ah yes hello. You see the problem with what you are saying is that it’s about as out there as they get. If you don’t understand, let me put it more simply: you are stark raving mad. Sorry.
Sir Librarian It's best to just leave the dense conspiracy theorists to their ridiculous conspiracies. Let the stupidity speak for them. They clearly don't care what anyone has to say, as long as they have an excuse that fits their own personal opinion or agenda. They only speak about shit like this when it's convenient for them.
Super Secret I will go as far as civil war if they will try to ban guns
The conspiracy theory? Imagine go through that horror and people call you fake. Imagine go through all that trauma and people call you too emotional and too young. Imagine a country that kids have to be afraid of being gunned down, afraid enough to have to speak up... oh wait, you don’t have to imagine.
The boy's CZcams account was posted on the news clip from 6 months ago. It takes all of 5 minutes to figure out that Hogg is a real student and that he is indeed a classmates of the others speaking up. There's even a map of FL in one of his videos. People are absolutely stupid to believe this to be a "conspiracy".
Have we truly lost objective truth and facts to hearsay?
I remember learning in school that just because someone posts it on the Internet doesn't mean that it is the truth. Did more than half the population miss that lesson?
Ake S Sad but true ...
Yep, president " fake news " sure has lowered the bar
Tracy Crawford ... this is how were making America great again, by making the real news looking like fake news.
There have been conspiracies about every recent mass shooting.
Teenagers: "We want comprehensive legislation to solve a pressing social problem, namely us getting shot in the face because we're going to our legally mandated schooling."
NRA: "WHAAAA!! WE WANT OUR TOYS!!!"
Commentator: "Those teenagers are so immature."
thexalon he'll yeah I first likr
thexalon like
thexalon Okay i have a question with the hopes that perhaps i can change your attiude a bit. Are you a gamer.
I hope that was a fake NRA ad. Looked more like adults trying to be modern teens.
"Comprehensive legislation" is just another way of saying you have absolutely no ideas. If you ever read a history book you'd know the 2nd amendment isn't about having fun toys or hunting.
Blaming the victims seems to be a preferred pastime of conservatives 😒
"Do we really think 17 year olds on their own are going to plan a nation wide rally?". Honestly, these kids have far better common sense than the adults who look down on them or call them "paid actors". They'll never forget this moment. Not now and not when they become voters.
won't matter. at the rate of abortions the left love, they're effectively killing their own voter base.
We need to support them so that they don't feel alone in this fight. I don't want my children to die in a school shooting.
Lisa Kelly Don’t forget Conservative Republicans secretly love abortions too, especially when it’s from their mistresses 😜
www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/05/gop-rep-tim-murphy-resigns-after-reports-asked-mistress-to-get-abortion.html
it's me Joolz because gun violence in schools is just like super later term abortion. Those fetuses were only like 200 months old and had their lives ripped away by some maniac.
Lisa Kelly what the fuck this has to do with anything we're talking about guns bitch stay on topic
My mom told me I should leave the house more.
I participated in a gun reform rally with my peers and got on the local news. I'm not saying it'll change everything, but I'm saying I can try.
Now people are telling me to get back into the house.
I'm not getting back into the house.
mieczysława well that fucking sucks
Same except replace the last sentence with "I'm never going back home"
Yess! Honestly, teenagers are the ones who are going to reform America
Teenagers who survived mass shooting: We need stronger gun control.
Rep: You're Kids!
Middle schoolers eating Obama- designed meal: Waaa! I don't wanna eat veggies!
Rep: WE SPEAK FOR THE CHILDREN OF AMERICA!
I- Michelle Obama tried to fix it, middle schoolers have more common sense then you will ever have. Grow up. You don't speak for children, children speak for themselves.
Oop
If the “A” stands for “Awesome”, “NR” stands for “Not Really”
like totes
+Kitty Hatchet... NRA stands for US CITIZENS predominantly fighting to KEEP US CONSTITUTIONAL Right to HAVE and BEAR ARMS... against which today is becoming more evident a US-ROGUE Gov controlled by an ELITE Few www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/11/burying-sharon/
DeWayne Benson
good luck protecting yourself against predator drones with a rifle, Anne Oakley. And think of me when you lose🤣
except you as a private citizens owning guns are anywhere near the well organized militia part of second amendment... you can kiss judge Scalia´s dead ass for this dumbfuckery, called individual right to bear arms.
was about to make that joke
I hate it how apparently it is always too soon to talk about gun control after a school shooting but never too soon to call the victims actors
Well, if the media didnt sensationalize statistical rarities it wouldnt be a problem.
There's a shooting every other week, so we can never talk about it
Duncandoesstuff no amount of gun control laws will keep guns out of bad peoples hands. Stop using that dumbass argument
kylebrasuel
Nice fake af troll account, Ivan.
Why don't YOU stop using that dumbass debunked BS argument, huh?
Australia proved gun control can work.
Stop lying, comrade.
kylebrasuel so we should dispensé with all laws then?
Vote.Them.Out.
As simple as that.
I think that is what they are worried about. Most of these young people will be of voting age real soon.
Jason Blade i wish we could, sadly we'd need all of america's people to want that. Cough Cough middle U.S
Jason Blade they keep taking these kids for granted. it's almost as if they've forgotten there are elections coming
They wont vote because they cant read.
Hey idiot. Glad u made it here. There is no option of voting people out. Just saying... how do u plan going with your list?
Our leaders are contemptable, but our children are heroes. There is yet hope.
S. R. Vest yeah, I have hope for tide pod eaters. How are they heroes exactly?
S. R. Vest Thank you. This comment is legit helping me deal with the all the terribleness going on right now.
Why do people always do the math backwards?
The question should be, given the increased number of school shootings AND the commensurate increase in active shooter drills, what are the odds that these two events would *not* intersect at some point? The probably of a coincidence happening is virtually meaningless; the number you want to look at is the probably over time of a coincidence never happening - in other words the chance that an outcome did not happen by chance.
Spreading conspiracy theories is one thing, but flagrant disregard for the laws of probability? Unforgivable.
Hallelujah Chorus you are a monster.
Hallelujah Chorus you want kids to die. Who is the monster now?
I assume you voted for Trump. Well now he is the goverment
I liked what Trevor said. Republicans think these kids are too young to talk about gun violence or solve this issue, but yet in 1 year they can go out and buy as many guns as they want. One minute they're not adult enough, the next minute they are.
This is just disgusting beyond any level.
Do they not have any human decency?
In The Mind of Kibara I mean he WAS on Fox news... I doubt it
In The Mind of Kibara considering Trump is our president I don't think so
They don't have any human DNA.
They are probably psychopaths.
No....no.... But there's a lot or NRA money around.
I find it so ironic that the most mature people in this tragedy aren't even old enough to vote
John you're so right and when they are we will know who they hopefully won't vote for!
John Kelly before they do, they need to make sure they're not funded by the NRA
Kingston sounds like he's never seen the inside of a high school. students of my high school organized and staged a counter-protest in less than 8 hours after receiving word that an anti-abortion group would be setting shit up outside our school.
The rhetoric these "pundits" are using to disempower these kids is both instructive and disgusting. Too young to know what they are talking about? Maybe say that after someone has fired an AR-15 at you.
Eric Brinkman ikr the news doesn't want to do the right thing they just care about taking orders from their gun company buddies and Trump 😡
From El Salvador... endured terrorism, car bombs, death squads, kidnappings and extorsions... my extended family reads like an obituary... so yeah.. i can fire a gun... and you will just get an ilegal market...
Eric Brinkman they’re too young to know what they’re talking about! And I’ve had an AR fired in my direction. Not that that needs to be a qualifier for a voice in a debate. That’s a child’s argument. Have you ever fired an AR-15? Do you own a gun? If not then you should talk about gun control.
See how stupid your logic sounds?
Eyeout they do have the right to speak that guy was being condescending because they are young I’m not saying they are the most qualified but to assume they don’t know what they’re talking about shows how small minded you are.
What the fuck does them being able to vote have to do with them telling people they should do something about kids getting shot in the face by the mentally ill?
And stop insulting people, you diseased rabbit scrotum... Or at least be more creative with your insults ;P
What the frick is wrong with these conservatives?
Jessamyne Roux Ado Tribalism.
Jessamyne Roux Ado same thing wrong with the left
Inbreeding.
Everything.
Larry Fuckle
nope. And what a stupid answer. Put the tide pod down, and go read a book.
Aahhhhh, that old blame the victim bs. Just like how rape victims are blamed for showing off too much or not defending themselves
Jayy Zee "you see if every kid in the high school owned a gun..."
*insert obvious satire here
Jayy Zee and every unarmed (or licensed to carry like Philandro) Black victim who died at the hands of a trigger happy cop!
Jayy Zee well I mean. Its a bit of both. Womens culture has become a bit more open, thus provoking the mentally ill rapist even more. Though thats not the cause, just a factor
Jayy Zee dude not the same, rape victimization has been overused by SJW's and has since been less believable. Shooting victimization has more wide affect rather than a single person at a time.
Alan Walker No it’s just been more widely blown out. It happens way more then you would think and if you stop believing them when they start yelling about the issue then you just don’t like it when things get put on the spotlight
If you need to have an expert opinion before speaking about the topic, Donald Trump would never have had a say.
And if you had to be an expert comedian before hosting The Daily Show, John Stewart would still be running the show.
No_Notes
Jack Kingston. Wake up. It's the old people like you that's the problem. Yes these kids may have adult help but welcome to 2018. All it takes is just one tweet, one Facebook post, one message and things get going. No more calling everyone and having meetings and sending out carrier pigeons to get messages out.
Mike Hoard LOL sure with this tech age words can spread like wildfire but what I'm finding out is that too much screen time makes you a mindless zombie when it comes to personally interaction. These teens are proof of that.
spaghetti monster from outerspace yeah getting together to speak on a serious issue clearly these teens are zombies 🧟♀️.
There's a good reason why it was a child that knew the Emperor had no clothes.
LIAM Productions, indeed. Ask any magician, hobbyist or professional, and they will tell you stories about magic tricks that fool every adult, but kids get instantly how it works.
Eliphas Leary I think it's because as we get older, we get desensitized to BS.
LIAM Productions, my explanation is that kids learn new stuff every day, but adults are expected to just know stuff on first glance, so we are stuck in our patterns of perception. "Desensitized to BS" is a good way to put it, thank you for that, I might use it... ;o)
Eliphas Leary Regardless of how it's described - I'm damn proud of these kids :)
If you can’t talk about gun control after a mass shooting, you can never talk about gun control.
That’s just my thinking about all this
well yeah,there is mass shooting all the time,if you wait "enough" there is a new mass shooting happening before we talked about the prior one
We're not Politicizing an event by talking about it.....we're talking about it!
Congratulations, you just described Fox news in a nutshell.
Theres like a mass shooting every week I think their thing is if we cant talk about gun control after a mass shooting then it'll never happen
AFTER a mass shooting? I'm afraid it has now become necessary to talk about gun control BETWEEN mass shootings. A few more years and it will be DURING.
Boii bye they aren’t the ones with constant danger going to school, fearing that some kid might come and shoot them. You know how many warnings we (the school I attend) had. We had 3. Two were people with weapons and one was a bomb threat. The fact that they still have the audacity to refuse to listen to these kids is just unbelievable
KookieMonsterWants HisSugaKookie they don't care until their own kids got gunned down, which is very unlikely because they are in private schools. Just like how draft dodgers Baby Bush and Trump are very warmongering because they have never been in an actual war.
They don't believe them.
Trump isn't going to do anything, don't get your hopes up.
And if he does it's in desperate hope to get his approval rating up
Well he'll do something. He'll be damned if he doesn't because these kids are not going to stop no matter what slander the NRA politicians throw at them. This one doesn't look like it's going away anytime soon.
Asmodeus
I am a Baby Boomer and my generation did a TERRIBLE job raising Millennials, they are the worst. I have a new found respect for Generation Z though.
lol this guy saying the people winning gold medals in the olympics and figuring out how to send completely reusable rockets into space and solving the worlds energy crisis and diseases are shittier than people who eat tide pods for 12 seconds of internet fame.
And what did Obama do during his 8 years? Duck??
First you try to stop them from talking about guns. If you don’t succeed at that, you mark them as fakes and actors.
ErrorCodeMLG lmao and have them recite one of shakespeare’s poem, ‘all the world’s a stage and all men and women are merely players’
What kind of black magic was used on trump? Trevor is right, I don't know how to feel about this. And honestly those kids are amazing when speaking.
We'll see if he sticks to it. He's said bold words before, but backed out in the end. I'm really, really hoping this isn't the case.
BTS and NCT Trash I feel he felt obligated. W.e. his advisor(s) say will to help further his everlasting campaign.
Lip service. He knows the GOP and his constituents will never stand for it, so he doesn't have to push very hard, and it'll get denied.
I don't see what the problem is. If Donald Trump is actually offering help, you should take it and try to hold him to his word. I can just imagine a bill to ban bump stocks and make background checks more thorough coming with a ton of unpalatable laws on the side though.
LOL...you must be new!!!!!!
Jack Kingston... never heard of SOCIAL MEDIA. Seventeen year olds RULE!
The hormones are kicking in. Must. Find. Mate.
Jack Kingston is a moron. He also likes blaming kids for being on free and reduced lunch. He once wanted to make an example of them by making them clean the cafeteria in return for the free meals. The guy hates kids imo.
Jack is not even from this planet!!they all are riding in a clown car with a full tank of gas !!QUICK...WHO HAS THE SPIKE STRIPS???
Jack Kingston has gone after kids before. He wanted poor kids to be pulled from classrooms to clean the schools if they were on free lunch. He is a Dickensian villain.
Lost Age Comics agreed
“...or a non-threatening Black guy!” Lmao!
His name was......Jamal.
"[Teenagers] probably have not studied a complicated, multi-layered issue."
"We're just trying to not let 17 of us get shot in the fucking face again."
Nothing uncomplicates things faster than the threat of death.
To be fair, guns are the easy weapon of choice to go for, considering half of all American households have a firearm. And even if they were taken away, the really bad people would resort to home built explosives. Good times with one of those tossed into a packed classroom.
Finally, banning guns just hides the real problem - the cause encouraging all these people to pick up guns and shoot up schools in the first place. High schools being where social cliques begin to form and relationships become a HUGE focus of One's life, the pressure is positively insane if you're the odd man out.
Schools represent many things - young love, friendship, family, a future... to take young lives is to say "FUCK YOU" to everyone they feel is denying them that life in the loudest way possible. It's a sort of the ultimate cry of frustration at being left out of the social game and failing at life, and one that can't be simply ignored by their peers whom can't be arsed to even try to get to know them for XYZ reasons the shooter may perceive to be unchangeable.
Or in other words - If One wants the recognition and respect every human being craves but no one is going to love them, then they'll get people to fear them instead.
This is my working theory anyway. It's not as simple as "just take guns away." It will mitigate future outbursts, but guns are the low hanging fruit. The core issue of violent attacks won't go away without them, and it's something society will probably have to come to terms with itself over, since monsters don't just pop up out of nowhere. It takes a monster to make a monster.
"Here's what I find funny about this debate...most of the arguments boil down to one idea - teenagers are too young, too emotional, too inexperienced to talk about guns. But as soon as they turn 18, they can own as many of those bad boys as they want. And I guess in a way, this is how you know these students are having an effect. You've never seen gun advocates so desperate that they'd start attacking victims of a mass shooting. And that's the power of these teenagers."
Thanks for your insightful thoughts, Trevor and team. I wish I could come up with arguments even 1/2 as eloquent as this when I'm angry slam-keyboard commenting back on Facebook threads...why do I keep getting trapped in devolving circles of lunacy...anyway, keep doing the good work!
sa52 They also have another power when they turn 18, they can vote. Which means they can vote those motherfuckers out.
2:16 So some guy things it's suspicious that kids do not want to get shot? Of course they do not want to get shot!
As an American student all I can say is that I don’t wanna get shot in the fuckin face while I’m at school, a place I don’t even want to be at every day!
I saw that conspiracy theory today. It’s like they’ve never heard of someone going on vacation before or moving from another state. It’s disgusting these adults who are so attached to a weapon they’re blaming children who watched their friends die less than a week ago. Absolutely heartless.
"Nonthreatening Black guy." LOL
Does not exist.
Sir SpitsAlot ........I’ll pray for you
Hey guys, ignore Sir spits a lot pleaseeee. We all know he's a douchehole (he knows it too btw, which is why he's a sad, sad semblance of a person) and we should instead laugh at what was another solid segment of the daily show. Even consider liking this comment to get the
Itch to reply out of your system haha
Sir SpitsAlot
Well aren’t you a racist piece of shit?! I fuck with the brothers and the Mexicans. It’s Nazi RepubliKKKans I feel nervous and apprehensive about.
Greg Spalding waste of space
This just goes to show how mature kids and teenagers and how much adults do not confide in them.
Just because you’ve been in a tragedy doesn’t mean you are a expert in that tragedy
Hype Lake no one said that but they do have a right to speak and not be talked down to. Why is that so hard to understand?
Shayla Nash it’s not I’m not saying they should not be able to speak it’s just they should not be your #1 source
Alec Rousseau I had a foot surgery, that does not mean I can go do surgery on feet now
"Paid for by the NRA. The A stands for Awesome!"
Yeah as in Not Really Awesome!
Amplifyr damn, your's is much better
NRA should give AR15 to all student for free and let them carry everywhere. Else gun control is common sense.
The Nice Republican Association DendiFace
Why don't you blame the right people??? Uggghhh blame the shooter and the Criminal justice system.....
flyinghigh2000 you dumbass liberals are the only ones to say dumb shit like that...
How hard for those politicians to understand that kids want to live?
Yo, intellectual.... whos not wanting children to live? Oh... i see....you talk about pro-choice.
+bf4Harzen fuck off russian bot
Kids are acceptable collateral damage for conservatives, so long as they get to keep guns. These people clearly have no morals. The only place I have to deal with such people are on line, it's impossible to imagine being friends with someone who supports this shit.
Or will be voting in 2020.
why do people think 17 year olds are so incapable? in 12 months they’ll be adults who can do almost anything legally.. do they expect them to just randomly become mature the day they turn 18? i’m genuinely confused
Trevor’s imitation of Trump is ON POINT! 😂👏🏼
America has become a joke now. How long will it take to impeach the carrot top off the seat with his clan before the land of dream becomes history?
Ricky Samuel 👩🎤Good point and good question 👩🎤
Although this time he looks a lot better than Republicans.
Robert Bemister everyone got their own opinion mate. But the sad reality is that the country once everyone looked up to, no longer exists
Robert Bemister the statistics say otherwise. the approval ratings of America as a world leader have dropped significantly and I can assure you, here in Germany we are laughing our asses off about your government.
Robert Bemister I am german as well and I can assure you that Anti-Americanism is actually a huge thing, no matter if you are left or right. America has lost its role as the world's leading force, whether culturally, politically or economically.
My head hurts from the stupidity i have just watched. i am sorry, but what the hell is wrong with people ? Actors ? Not having a valid point because they are teenagers ? Really ?
The people making those statements don't have a real point to make, so the only thing left for them is to attack others. They're following the example of their supreme leader.
“Never allowed to speak” hit the nail on the head!!
i love you Trevor!!
That the kids are that outspoken is a testament to how good their school is
We need to promote this. Any politician that has get money for the gun manufacturing company has to be in a black list so when re-elections come back we won't vote for them.... let's start for senator Marco Rubio and ofcorse the actual president... this is the only way we are going to make them change mentality.... they are ok because their kids don't go to public education
Cristian Torres
God forbid a crazy ex student walks into a private school and does something crazy. They think they're safe. No one is safe, not high schoolers, middle school students, kindergarteners nor 1st graders, not church or temple goers, not politicians at a baseball practice, not country music concert attendees, not movie goers, not those attending clubs and office parties. What have I missed I am sure I've missed somewhere else.... oh yeah airports.... shopping malls (DC Sniper) This has to stop. I hope no one else has to be a victim. Let's make this violence stop.
Ban the semi automatic guns.
Aisha, Banning semi-automatics, whether they are semi-automatic assault rifles, AR-15s (AR does *not* mean "Assault Rifle", by the way), or semi-automatic handguns will not stop violence on its own. Any effort to ban a weapon *must* be coupled with some change to our society as well, such as training teachers, students, and other members of the community to spot these people before they become violent, and how to reach out to them; teaching your kids to be compassionate and not bully their classmates; fighting the stigma associated with mental health; and increasing communication between local, state, and federal levels of law enforcement will also need to happen. Without those other changes (and probably more), I fear a weapons ban just means they'll learn how to build better bombs.
Oh so NRA stands for Not Really Awesome
I don't think you need to be an expert in guns to say gun control would probably help people from getting shot
Ok, how? Wouldn't expect everyone to know everything, but id expect that they could answer that simple question.
For once I’m reading through the comment section and I finally see people agreeing on something. America is changing because of the youth. Keep it up!
No matter what America is my home. We must make it a better place not only for ourselves but mainly our children and those after us.
Elijah Elisha amen to that
Hail satan 😈
Larry Fuckle hail potatoes! 😂
Hear hear, Elijah
Praise the Sun!
Dang, I would have never thought of these points, Trevor Noah is awesome!
Arm teachers! Arm EVERYONE! More guns in everyone's hands means fewer people get shot. (Great logic)
kassie raine well if the fbi won't do anything and the police officers who waited outside while innocent children were murdered inside the school won't protect us, who will? You liberals keep blaming gun owners and take guns away and you would think that you would have some insight as to why we need guns. Blame the shooter, not the gun.
Yes, absolutely, it is the shooters fault. I would mention though, that while you are right that it is the shooters fault, our nation, more specifically, the republican party, is doing its best to eliminate healthcare coverage for those that need it the most.You know, the type of people that can't hold down a job because of mental and personality disorders. No money, no decent healthcare...no psych drugs to help alleviate the mental health crisis. That, coupled with the extreme saturation of firearms in our society equals ridiculously high levels of gun violence. If a shooter wants to get a gun in America, all he need do is check his neighbors closet....or just buy one legally, because it is freakishly easy here.
Tell me, Kristine Bautz...would all these armed teachers require qualifications to carry a gun in a school? Would they have had a thorough backround check and mental evaluation done, completed and passed a 40+ hour gun safety and shooting qualification course, register their gun with the local police, and be at least 25 years of age?
kassie raine
That would help. Nothing like an unstable person with a gun snapping and shooting someone like the class clown always acting up.
drmayeda1 Oops, don't look now...but you're making the "liberal" argument for common sense gun control measures.
Proud as hell of these kids. They're tired of this shit. So am I. I was 17 when Columbine happened, we haven't learned anything in prevention. We need tougher laws. Period
Sarah Richard what law would have stopped him? Hmmmm? Schools became a gun free zone in 1990. You can’t legally bring one one to the property. Maybe if the fbi had done their job or the cops then we wouldn’t have had this issue.
Ever start typing a response but then you realize it's not worth it? Me neither.
There was a rally at Tallahassee’s capital today. Not only if students that were victims of the shooting but also of students of other schools in Florida including my former High School. There is going to be another rally on March 24, both at Washington DC and once again at Tallahassee’s capital building.
They deserve a honorary degree? Wow, so that makes anybody who has ever been in a car accident deserve a civil engineering degree I guess. They should be designing roads and making traffic laws so no one ever loses their life to another car accident.
we should have done a background check on Donald Trump.
Those kids are motivated by the fact that they ran through a school away from a guy with an AR-15 😬😑
I must say, I am really looking forward to elections this year.
I a lot of those "kids" will be 18 too and you can bet your ass they will be voting. Congrats GOP. You just played yourself.
any GOP and Democrat who support gun rights will be voted out, you can bet on that. I'm 18 this year and you can be sure i'll show up to vote.
Early voting is already under way in Texas! It's open primary, so choose the party when you show up. It's unfortunate I can't cross Party lines, but I've got a particular Democrat I want to put at the head of the pack for congress, so I'll have to do the Democratic ticket. I'll just cross my fingers and hope the Republicans come to their senses and stop putting complete nutjobs on the top of the ticket. Unfortunately, I doubt that's going to happen.
My Getaway - there's nothing wrong with supporting the right to own weapons. It's the abject refusal to support any kind of potentially life-saving control measures, and the vile attempts to smear anyone who promotes them, that should get those asshats removed from office. I'm a liberal and I support the right to own weapons, but I don't support the right to own weapons of war, i.e. assault rifles.
GOP will just rig the ballots and Gerrymander their way to victory again.
We need another party to shake shit up.
Trevor Noah's limo driver has a gun, so does the guard at his studio door and outside his residence.
Username and profile picture checks out
these are kids! who lost 17 Friends and mentors, and they’re marching to make a change! amazing.
in 1976 , it was high school students who stood up to the Apartheid government and military, and finally made the world see the plight of South Africa. We all know how that story ended.
Point being, teens(especially fed-up teens who have been shot at in cold blood) can stage a rally.Washington really better watch out as these people will be 18 soon and capable of voting.
Even in times like these, Trevor Noah is always on top of his jokes.
Ben Maiden that cousin joke was a little weird...
Ben Maiden Didya hear about his Born a Crime adaptation?!
It's funny to me that some of the people verbally attacking the planning and speaking efforts of these students don't believe students can be articulate about a topic, can come up with rational position statements, or could plan a bus trip or march to speak out. It's as if they think all teenagers are drooling idiots who just want to stare at their mobile devices, play Xbox, and create Snaps. In actuality there are millions of highly motivated, very intelligent teenagers who will work tirelessly to make sure schools stop getting shot up. What we're seeing right now is just the beginning. Over time the crowd sizes may shrink but out of this we are going to see a number of vocal advocates continue to rise and be heard until lawmakers respond.
Thanks Ryan Cole for responding to the crazy lady for me. She is too far gone for me to react or respond. Again thanks.
I know Americans seems they like they live in their own universe and probably don't care about the opinion of foreigners in other countries, but what's going on over there is extremely shameful,
1st there are more mass shootings there in a month than in my country's history
2nd the fact that after a mass shooting no one is allow to talk is ridiculous
3rd the fact that some people defend gun ownership the way they do it's beyond incredible
4th how can anyone try to shame and attack those kids!!!!
there is obviously something very wrong with Americans, I really think that if people have the right mindset there wouldn't be so many mass shooting in the first place.
Rage Studios talks about mindset later categorizes Americans as all being wrong.
Rage Studios I'm American And I agree, America needs to wake up
Talks about how guns are an issue, then realizes half way through typing that the issue is actually the people..... ironic.
I AGREE
Rage Studios As an American citizen I completely agree. The 2nd amendent that allowed guns was made in the late 1700's was used to protect people from the government when the gun could only have shot 1 or 2 bullets a minute. Now the times have changed and the guns have changed, many of Americans think the gun laws should to. But many people hold onto the 2nd amendent saying that violates their rights as Americans. But guns are killing people, killing children and that is more important than a gun
It shows how out of touch adults are..."wow they can think and function...they are not complete idiots?" "Who would have thought?" GO KIDS & WOMEN!
Oh they know, they just don't want to lose their NRA blood money
Greg Henderson ikr it's so funny when they're shocked when a 10 year old says a real swear 😂 Like seriously kids aren't stupid and these "news" people used to be teens themselves it's like wtf? Also people take really hard assessment tests in 8th grade and that's middle school 15 is high school 😂
Greg Henderson why are you throwin women in with the "tide pod, szechuan sauce" generation.
scientifically speaking the brain is fully developed at the age of 21
MATTMAN GOLD to be fair Rick and Morty is kinda funny but a bit overrated
This is probably the best thing I have seen in a long time.
Why the fuck would people act about being in a mass shooting and losing friends and classmates? This just shows that the government doesn't want to deal with serious issues. It's fucking disgusting.
The previous generation failed us, but we will not fail our kids. No matter what happens, I will not let my children live in a country where guns are “god given rights” but education and healthcare are privileges.
Did the Kingston guy seriously bring up political parties during such a terrible time like this? No one has brain washed anyone! 17 people were murdered. Friends of students. People's children. People's spouses. Since when does a political party tell you how to feel after being in a mass shooting? What you do with your grief, depends on you. If you need to take a moment and grieve, go for it. If your grief is making you want to speak out, go for it.
What has happened to America? This country is no longer recognizable.
Unfortunately Americans, nothing has changed for you.. NOTHING!
skit at the end was gold
why are conservatives so extreme with EVERYTHING when they want to make a point or conspiracy theory
+DPowered Smith
Is that a serious question? They have to be & it has the added bonus of actually reinforcing the entire underlying framework of their bullsh-t. The Republican Party has a political agenda which is to cut taxes on rich people & corporations, eliminate or privatize "entitlements", deregulate businesses, spend a sh-tload on the military, & invade other countries. Now, who the f-ck do you think that type of agenda appeals to? It sure as sh-t isn't regular as- people.
The only constituent group in the country that has a legitimate self-interest in supporting Republicans is like the top 1% of income earners in the country, that's it... literally no one else. Well you can't really win an election with that type of constituency can you? So, for decades they have searched out recesses of the American public with whom they could make some appeals to that would not interfere with their core agenda as outlined above & they found a few groups. 1) Religious extremists 2) Bigots/Racists. They put a 'lot of effort into getting these groups to vote for them & they have to keep going further out there to keep their support because they aren't ever going to half of the sh-t they promise these groups (either explicitly or implicitly,) because the ideas are beyond ridiculous, expensive, & a complete waste of time & energy, if not even unconstitutional. But, all their core agenda items actually f-ck over those other groups just like they do all the rest of us so these people's lives get sh-ttier which makes people more vulnerable to being caught up into one of these categories increasing the support people feel they have thus emboldening them & increasing the fervor for it because these groups don't just see the other side as people with a different opinions, but as actual threats to the country & their enemies.
Combine all that with the fact that most of the money sloshing around in the system is on their side thus allowing them the dominance of am radio (local/regional talk shows,) small/local newspapers, local news channels, & the advertising on all media platforms thus giving them a strong editorial role in the content of everyone else thus diluting the opposing side's ability to put out certain messages. What you end up with is this endless f-cking loop of anger & hatred fueling extreme policies, never getting the policies promised, then getting more extreme in response & the political party stuck exploiting this extremely cynical & damaging to the society strategy because they aren't going to change their agenda & there agenda only appeals to a microscopic portion of the population.
Dude, its not conservatives, its some random lunatics who believes this shit, but keep adding to the fire... and keep on making conservative political ideas the villain of all tragedys. Funny thing though: there wont be a bipartisan solution. Btw getting rid of 2nd amendment equals civil war. Why would snybody want that?
Wrong.
bf42Harzen it's amazing how extreme you went in your indignation about calling out conservatives for going too extreme. With no irony at all.
Amazing
I've always said not to force teenagers under the mindless, ignorant stereotypes that were created by the generation before. I've always said that teenagers are not stupid, and so have opinions and passions and beliefs. And this is proving every single point I've made. These teens are strong and empowered, and when given a reason, they can absolutely rock your shit.
Some teens are idiots, though.
Exactly, a few are, but then again apparently 70 percent of male white voters in Alabama would rather elect a pedofile than a democrat. Point being, some percentage of a population is always going to be stupid and it does't reallly seem to matter the age group.
Ryan Cole yea of course, but idiots come in all shapes and sizes
Flicky32 oooooooh lmao you right
julia wisner So it was which generation before that forced that? Gen X?
I lost it at "Jamal" XD
This r/fellowkids oc is lit af
Great job GOP who cares what these kids say its not like their going to be old enough to vote soon. And its not like its an election year, and its not like teens have methods to communicate with other young teen to vote who might not have voted before. Besides this is just florida its not like there are a lot of democrats there or theres a governors race there which could change the districts in the state to favor dems. I mean come on please when has Florida ever decided the faith of the country or decided who are next president would be. I think they did the smart move.
Tesla Stark When has *Florida* ever decided who the next president would be? You had a 49/50 chance of being correct in using an 'only one state' example there... Unfortunately (for you), it's actually the 'look at the difference just one state can make' example. 😁
Missed the obvious sarcasm.
Tesla Stark This has got to be the most beautifully crafted, sarcastic comment I have ever seen
Conspiracy theorists are out there claiming these teens are paid actors in part of a big secret conspiracy.
Meanwhile Marvel Studios can barely trust Tom Holland to not leak the Infinity War script.
guns don't kill people. People kill people... with guns xD
Right guns don’t shoot themselves
I agree, but in the hands of psycopath that can easily get a hold of some, automatic guns can kill 17 students all at once!
But this is the WRONG forum for common sense.
cor boet people can also save lives with guns.
by killing people, yes xD
One year later and nothing has changed...
These kids could make better presidents than Donald Trump any day!!!!!!!!!!!!💯
I hope more and more young people will get out and vote and see there is so much wrong when Lobbyist can buy the country and make the rules.
justsaying f
That first "teen" in the Limp Bizkit t-shirt and KoRn hat had me in stitches 😂😂
And here we are nearly 2 years later and still no progress on gun safety.
@Lizzie Allen I am not most people and absolutely will elaborate. Comprehensive background checks with no loop holes and red flag laws would be a good start as well as a ban on the sale of assault style weapons and oversized magazines. I am a veteran and know what that type of weaponry can do. They were designed for one purpose and one purpose only: to kill people as quickly and effectively as possible. They are no good for hunting as the rounds they fire shatter upon impact and the shards bounce around inside the body and shred the meat so it is unusable for eating. Also: it is not polite to be snarky like a two year old simply because someone does not agree with your opinion.
@Lizzie Allen For a moment there I thought you might be up for some substantive discourse about trying to keep kids from being killed by guns. Guess I was wrong. As for your thoughts on cell phones, alcohol and cars. I use public transport and don't drink so no skin off my teeth. But should YOU ever have your car break down in the middle of the night, it's my thinking that you would really appreciate having a phone with you. Now if you would like to talk about red flag laws and gun control, I'm up for it.
@Lizzie Allen I absolutely agree with you that people have the right to defend themselves. I don't advocate taking everyone's guns away and never said that. I would however, like to see assault rifles off the street because they ARE weapons of war. In my opinion there should also be stricter laws that would prevent folks with histories of domestic abuse, assault and battery and other acts of violence from having easy access to firearms. That is an area where red flag laws and thorough background checks would prove valuable in reducing the deaths of innocents. Is that too much to ask?
@Lizzie Allen Sorry for the delay. I've been out of town. Perhaps it's time to reevaluate those laws. What would you suggest?
@Lizzie Allen So you don't have any real ideas either.
that last part about the NRA commercial was innaccurate , the Black guy would've gotten shot to death by cops in the video just because he mentioned guns.
I say we treat guns like cars. In order to have AND KEEP guns you have to pass regular background checks, vision test, written test, and practical test.
Noh Body
right!! (especially since cars rarely kill 17 people all at once)
Noh Body
also requiring a long waiting/training period after people first apply to own a gun (just like the learners permit for driver’s licenses) and giving gun manufacturers strict safety regulations (like how cars have seatbelts and airbags)
Celeste Greene now your just taking it too far
Celeste Greene it’s not about knowing how to use it properly, it’s about having common sense while using it
I mean sure maybe they could be instructed on the use of it for 10 minutes before they leave the store with the gun
These kids with their cell phones, computers, and other high tech gadgets ..... you old lawmakers better watch out. These kids are fed up. #NeverAgain
Wow, so much has changed since then. Thank you Mr. President!
How idiotic and cruel do you have to be to believe that these kids are just actors? They're victims who lost friends and loved ones and they're victims who barely escaped with their lives. How could someone just accuse a victim of faking it? That's atrocious.
I'm not sure how policy of gun control will change, BUT I do know what these kids will write about in their college essays.
Love it! If only people who have studied an issue could have an opinion, Donald Trump would not be allowed to talk at all. Hahaha, bravo! Nailed it!
I pushed for Smartguns when l ran for Broward County Sheriff. And to deputize concealed weapon licenses. This freak is making folks laugh and cheer while 17 victims decompose. Typical.
You know you're doing the right thing when Trumpsters start making conspiracy theories about you
GantzIsSloppy sounds to me like you are triggered lol.
It's surprising that people have been surprised at how eloquent these kids are. Kids today are immersed in politics at a much younger age, and they have fairly sophisticated political views by the time they're in their late teens.
You know the worst part is how accurate the fake NRA ad was.
You can ask for the tomatoes to be removed 😂😂😂