Dominique Wilkins on Pippen & Jordan Beef: Everybody Wants to Be King, Everybody Can't (Part 28)
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Dominique Wilkins, the co-host who was live on TV when his colleague Bob Rathbun had a seizure last year, shared an update on Rathbun's health, stating he’s doing great. According to Wilkins, Rathbun stayed away from presenting a few games, but his health has improved. During his recent interview with Vlad, Wilkins also discussed the popular “The Last Dance” series about the Chicago Bulls. Wilkins admitted to not watching the series, explaining that nothing would surprise him because he had firsthand experience of what Michael Jordan and the Bulls were like since he competed against them. On being asked about recent comments made by Scottie Pippen about Michael Jordan, Wilkins defended Jordan. He noted that while the Bulls team had a great roster, none of it would’ve been possible without Michael Jordan's leadership. He also discussed his perception of the most skilled players he played against, listing names like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Kareem Abdul Jabbar. - Zábava
The 80’s era was loaded with guys who could flat out play basketball.
I watched and was raised in the 60s and 70s without question the 80s was the most dominant of all!!! Decades!!!
Facts
Position players era. Nowadays 1-5 can run point and and centers have green light to shoot and not crash boards
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so even john koncak & greg ehlo could play I never thought bout it like dat
Dom is very cerebral. Love hearing him talk. I don't think young fans today comprehend just what a legend he was. Guy should get a prime analyst show.
He does get overlooked playing in the era of Bird, Magic, Isiah, Kareem but through that whole 80s era he was a top 5 player all the way. Nique wasn’t nothin to fuck with on the court either
@KDubb-ws9zc facts. That's why I never get the Len Bias thing. If he was lucky he would've been Dominique and that's a major push
Agreed
@@elbowgang9715 you know what I tell people this about Bias. I was too young to have seen Bias play but when I watch tape on him he looks like a bigger taller version of Michael Jordan. The way his body moved in the air was exactly like Mike
Yes. One of the best players of 80s. Everyone is talking about Zeke's omission from the Dream Team but Nique should have been on that team as well. Ahead of Mullin for sure!
This guy is straight up interesting to listen to. He has good insight and solid judgment. I always loved watching him back in the day but somehow never really saw interviews with him - the man is a unit.
Pure class!
He stays giving Bernard King his props!!👍🏾👍🏾
I could listen to ‘Nique talk all day. A real dude and one of my idols growing up!
Dominique knows damn well he seen the last dance lol
Dominique was there...he knows what he's talking about...
Facts! Dominique was that dude during an incredibly talented era of unique styles of basketball instead of this cookie cutter simulacrum on repeat that makes up the player base today.
Preach 💯
So with all the tlk y'all tlk abt MJ cudnt Win without Scottie, y'all wanna tell me if Nique played alongside MJ instead of Scottie they wudve never Won ? A mean it's just a QUESTION
@@sroland3533man ur on point with this one. There's a lot of guys u can replace pippen with on the bulls and they still win just as much. Dominique, Gary Peyton, Kemp , Drexler, Jason kid , Malone, Barkley, ewing , robinson , obviously hakeem , grant hill , and a few others. Some of those players teaming up with mj on the bulls would be overkill but u get the point. Man I go as far as saying that even if u just remove pippen from the second 3peat bulls team and just start toni kukoc in pippens place i think the bulls would still win.i say that cause Pippen played terrible in all those playoff runs especially the last 2 vs the jazz. Even his defense was avg
@joel8692 and remember MJ STOPPED the Trade btwn Tmac & Scottie and hey who knows wht wudve happened then wen you give MJ Tmac and let go of Scottie, yow the amount of Knowledge MJ wudve passed on to him and being wht 7ft 8" a mean Holy Shit lolol hahaha
Yeah man everyone does the same exact idiot similar moves.
That step back 3 pointer, that Uncle travelling Matt bull jive euro step.
Some players take the two steps then hop for a third!
That fake me out Allen Iverson crossover which no one really has it perfected like AI did.
And the host of three point shots that just get jacked up each and every game, which has ruined the NBA.
The last dance - "I never watched it I lived it"
By Acclimation and accomplishments Jordan is the Goat and he remains their 30 years later
John Salley saying Pippen is the most skilled player is nothing but a hot take. No difference than when Gilbert Arenas gets on here and says something crazy. Being the goat comes with a lot of admiration but it also comes with a lot of hate. It seems that people are always trying to find ways to make Jordan seem overrated. It's nice to hear Dominique keep it real. He could just be another old head, hating on Jordan because he was more successful.
you sound stupid even phil Jackson who coached both of them said pippin is more skilled than jordan. he said he can ask pippin to do anything and he can just like Sally said ,yes scoring that's jordan he better phil said but that's it
John Salley is a low-key MJ hater, and I can't understand why. Given that he rode MJ's coattails to a title in 1996.
@@rjtimtiman8483FACTS
@@oceanlives4915 - "MJ is the most overrated athlete in history." It's a good thing only a handful of people hold this kind of opinion like yours, or this world would be a much shittier place than it already is.
@@oceanlives4915 how are you overrated if you're #1 in almost every important statistical category? 😅 cmon man I don't think you know what that word means.
No matter what, Scottie thinks Jordan was a thing before he met you. It's like he saying they just found out about Jordan when, bruh, it was known who Jordan was from the jump. It's like saying nobody heard of Kobe until Shaq. In that case, Kobe and Shaq carried a name, but nobody heard of Pippen until it got mixed with Jordan. That's a fact.
Scottie was NOT the most skilled player on the Bulls.
Never trust a bad boy Piston’s opinion on MJ. I’ll give a slight exception for Joe Dumars.
And Rodman !
Domique was putting up monster numbers back in the day. I remember watching plenty of his games and he was averaging 25 to 30pts per game for a while when they were barely shooting 3s
This man is straight class. Always has been.
Good for Dominique!!! Pure class.
Jordan gave Scottie plenty of recognition in the doc. Scottie is literally on the cover art of the documentary.
Jordan literally says he there is no Jordan without pippen and that pippen was the best teammate he ever had.
So I don't know what Scottie is upset about
Pip mad because another Jordan is going to work night in and night out!!
Nique name dropped a whole lot of legends at the end!!
If Sally could assemble a team back then, and had first pick, he's taking Jordan. Not Pippen. No doubt.
Salley smoking too damn much...😂
Ppl say kyrie is the most skilled in the nba, no one would pick him first either
I always thought of Dominque Wilkens was the Vince Carter of the 80s. Although I never watched him played, but they seems to share the same traits like always competed well against the best teams. A role model and played the game the right way by elevating the popularity of the sport. Always willing to share their personal opinions but at the same time doesn't come off sounding like unintelligent.
John Salley says out of pocket shit sometimes there’s nothing Scottie does that MJ can’t do bit theres many things Jordan can do that scottie can’t
Hes a cokehead
Most explosive dunker up to that point. Absolutely amazing in the air.
Gervin was unstoppable as a scorer
When the fuck did we EVER see scottie locking down a center? Thats cap... scottie was skilled but come on... he wasnt more skilled than Jordan.
Having grown up in that era I think Scottie got more fan respect than he thought. Of course he wasn't a Jordan but he shouldn't try to be. Every generation has one superstar. We all knew Scottie could ball and him and Mike were like Batman and Robin to us. It was hard to mention one without the other back then.
Got me thinking...imagine if the Bulls traded Scottie to Atlanta for Wilkins. It wouldn't be Batman and Robin...it would be Batman and Superman lol. I Garantee Wilkins wouldn't be trashing Jordan after all this time...probably would have 7 rings. I mean with them both on the floor it's impossible to double team both of them.
@@amarshall911 wilkins or maybe a hakeem , would be like watching the justice league of the nba on one team
@@amarshall911 yeah man its sad that being a whiny hater is becoming Scotties legacy.
@@cknorris3644 Scottie was extremely talented and would always step it up when Jordan was having an off night. He also stood up for Wilkins when he was left off the original dream team.
Preach Dominique spitting nothing but facts
not exactly, bro. Out of nowhere MJ came at Scottie. All Scottie said is that MJ needed the whole Bulls organization (even Jerry Krause) to be a dynasty. Oddly, when MJ retired he released this photo montage book where he gave Scottie all kinds of props, and really came after the Jerrys (Reinsdorf and Krause) hard! Even in his hall of fame speech, MJ said, every highlight of his Scottie was there. You know what? he's right- especially if you say Nique is spittin facts. Notice Nique mentioned Horace Grant. Once Horace Grant left, the Bulls did no win a championship and freaking lost in the playoffs to Grant's new team- the Magic! MJ went personally to talk to Rodman about joining the Bulls at that point and only then were they able to get the next 3-peat. MJ has this weird tendency to try to play everyone off like Luc Longley. Well, he tried it with Scottie and caught some backlash.
@DA-pm9on Speaking facts isn't coming at Pippen. Grant was swept while playing with Penny and Shaq and was outplayed by Horry in the Finals. No one wins without help. Jordan didn't recruit Rodman. Rodman was a last-minute pick-up. Rodman was gonna be out the league without Jordan and the Bulls.
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 Speaking what? facts?!? Facts don't change two decades later when you have to sell a b.s. documentary because you got finessed out your ownership stake of an nba team. lol.
When is being messy speaking facts? talking about pip's contract negotiations, especially since mj devoted his whole book to shitting on the jerrys over his own contract is staight hypocrisy.
Fact: Jordan absolutely spoke with Rodman before he signed to the Bulls to discuss his role.
Also, Robert Horry... is a freaking small forward. How you figure he 'outplayed' shaq?? But you know who did outplay Shaq? Rodman. Dennis Rodman walks the Earth the only one to hold Shaq to 0 points for a whole quarter.
MJ is a gambler! He got played by the same people that thought they were going to swindle the stock market- Gabe Pltokin. Jordy thought he was a billionaire like the rest of 'em, but he's not and got played cuz he needs the money. Scottie is forever an all-time Great. And all of you clowns that listen of fed payroll vladio are suckas.
PIPPEN couldn’t guard everyone that’s a fkn lie
Kobe absolutely destroyed Pippin when Pippin played for the Trail Blazers
@@henrylewis7652 Nique used to blaze him
Dominique was a beast! Another outstanding human highlight reel!
Spoken well from a legend himself
Saying “Pippen is more skilled than MJ” is fucking DELUSIONAL! Jordan is one of the most skilled players ever & better than Pippen @ literally everything!! 🤦🏼♂️
You have to be a blind MFer, a troll, or a bonafide hater to say that Scottie was the most skilled basketball player ever. I don't believe Salley; he was obviously trolling with those comments, and I love Sal.
I'm a huge fan of Pippens game, but I do think theres possibly ten players that MJ could have won six with.
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Yea, so in the pre olympics of 84, he beat magic isiah bird parish and mchale (all in prime age no injuries). Sometimes 4 of them were on the same team. Jordan had Ewing and Mullin and they beat those teams 8-0 before he stepped on an NBA court. Just imagine if he had Ewing. It would have been enough to build around and likely get 8-10 rings
Who???
@@rucianapollard4057 Hakeem , Barkley, Reggie miller , grant hill , penny , shaq, drexler, Malone, David Robinson, kemp, iverson, Ewing, Wilkins,
With Hakeem, forget about it. He might tie bill russells record with the dream@@williebear1544
This was a dope & honest interview. Although it do seem Dominique was holding back some but a lot of those players back then felt Pippen was very lucky to play with MJ & he was. Pippen wasn’t better than dominique or Adrian dantley but because he played with MJ & won those titles he is seen as if he is. Hell domique not being on dream was because his injury , but Pippen was just starting to be good at that time dominique was a top scorer in the league
You know who Dominique is but using words like “dope” maybe time to grow up my boi
Adrian Dantley ain’t better than Pip lol
@@mrmorris2152 says the person using a phrase like "boi"...
@@TheP.O.T.better scorer fo sure
@@TheP.O.T. Pippen certainly has a better career. Dantley was without question better offensively though and it's not even close (same as Pip on defense). Idk if the Bulls win 6 championships if they swapped, but if you remove Jordan from those bulls, I don't know if anyone would pick Pip over Dantley.
How many championships nique and Jordan wouldve had ?!?
@@beery6659 facts lol i always wish nique replaced pippen on them teams
Dominique gives some of the best interviews. Preaching nothing but facts. The dude knows what he is talking about, because he was there.
Why nobody talks about the best shooter that Chicago ever had Craig Hodges
Did you ever watch Michael Jordan compete in the 3 point contest? It's really good footage lol
@overratedgm5713 Mike was never a good 3pt shooter, average and decent in some seasons but never great. Plus Mike is a moving shooter type guy, he makes alot of his shots on the move.
John Salley can say what he likes it's his opinion, but he knows the name that carried the weight. It wasn't Pippen. That where I think he gets it confused. The most talented players always come out on top it's always players that know that position, but talent is going to beat them out every time.
that was the "bad boys" john salley talking nonsense
Exactly. These guys just say things to take digs a Jordan. In no way was Scottie more skilled than Jordan on either end of the court. Especially the offensive end.
Salley has admitted in interviews a couple of times that he be trolling.
Salley has openly admitted that he trolls MJ for fun & always has throughout their friendship. He once got real & said “we all know MJ’s the GOAT but where’s the fun in that convo?”
Scotty doesn't win no championships without Mike 👍😅
But mj can win wo pippen
Bruh they could have replaced Pippen with any 4 star player at the time and won. Jordan and Tony K would have won 3 in my opinion!! Pip went to Portland and Houston and how far did he go?? In Portland he met a MJ prototype on the Lakers!!
@@requenewsome7250and got his ass torched by Kobe FACTS!!!!!
"I didn't watch it 'cause I lived it"
Mic Drop.... Bad A$$ Moment right there for sure
This is the way I always put it: if I could have any player in his prime to build a team around, I'm taking Jordan first every time. But that's just me.
Honestly think Salley says that for shock value.
Salley hit the blunt a couple of times before each interview!!
John only said that about Scottie because John was hating on Jordan. John was on those pistons teams that hated Jordan and tried hurting him.
Yea and Salley is an idiot. Since retiring he's made a career out of giving stupid takes. He's similar to Gilbert Arenas. But at least Salley won rings.
No he wasn't. Scottie was better than Jordan.
@@wack8589 better at what? You sound drunk and uneducated
@@wack8589really? You can’t be serious. Prove your statement with something substantial. You’re ice skating up hill.
@@wack8589hilarious
I don't think Jordan has no beef with pip
Nique always keeps it 💯, John Sally says shit just to say it, anybody that knows him says that lol pippen ass was nowhere near mj in skills lol
U'Nique. There was never a player before or since that played like him. What a pleasure to watch growing up when the league was loaded and super competitive. With the biases always shifting to the coasts it's amazing how much talent there was in that Central division.
Glad Dominique mentioned Iceman and Bernard King. Much love and respect Nique!!!
nique should've been the original top 50 in 1995
Living Legend!
Loved watching Dominique back in the day. Electric player.
Dope interview
Who doesn’t think Michael could have won 6 or more with Dominique
Dominique probably took as many shots as Jordan did in his prime, it probably would have been two people taking all the shots and mike would have been mad that nique took the last shot every once in awhile.
@@cameronpalmer401 they would have figured it out in order to win both did have that desire
@@jarmaincharleston7405 I don't think Michael and Dominique fit together chemistry wise. Magic and Dominique, or Larry and Dominique would both have been better combos. Michael has a difficult style and a difficult personality to fit in with other s chemistry-wise.
@@overratedgm5713false. MJ plays within a system, any system, quite well. Phil Jackson explicitly stated this. I do however agree with your last point that personality might not mesh well together. And we all know chemistry is big in sports.
@@oceanlives4915when? Not in high school? Not in college? Not with the rockets or trailblazers. When he was with Mike? We don’t know how efficient Nique would have playing alongside a guy who was double and triple teamed everynight
I'm 44 years old love Dom since I was a kid
Gracious.. Class.. MasterClass as ever #21!!
D Wilkins is my all-time favorite player. Class act!
In the end, it's a team game and a lot of time is spent on which individuals were better. I thought the Hawks were a player or two away from being a championship team when Nique was there. He is underrated in the history of the game, for sure.
Playing With Scottie Right Now On 2K. He’s A Beast 🔥🔥🔥 🏀
Wilkins is so right about Pippen. His anger isn't just about Jordan. It almost seems like Pippen is dealing with a mental health issue. I think what he's said about MJ is ridiculous but I hope he's okay.
You heard the man, MJ is the most skilled player of all.🤷🏻
Jordan would have won rings with kukoc as his sidekick!! Tony probably didn't defend as well as pip but he did everything else the same or even better than pip. Even Phil saw it!!
I think if u swap pippen and start toni kukoc instead for the second 3peat the bulls still win those chips. Pippen played terrible in those playoff runs especially the last 2 vs the jazz. Even his defense was bad
No wiser words spoken
Everybody wants to be the Jewel in the Crown
Pippen was more than just a jewwel in the crown tho if u saw them play u would know that
@@0-2-1saw him play. Pip was great, but nowhere even close to Jordan.
@@vincentallen1318 whoever said he was close to jordan is nuts
Shout out George Gervin the iceman! Thanks Dominique. Great show cladShout out Clyde Drexler and Mahmoud Rauf aka Chris Jackson. Ballers!
Dominique one of my favorite NBA player in 90
As a celtics fan in the 80s, I watched the Bulls go from a one-man non-contender to a juggernaut. Pippen's greatness was understated at the time, but overstated today. His biggest flaw was that in spite of how graceful he looked when rising up for the jumper, he had a very unreliable outside shot and put up way too many bricks. He was great when hot, but overall his percentage on outside shots was below-average, even worse when you take away the years they moved in the three point line. His lifetime FT percentage was less than Robert Parish's - let that sink in. The other problem is that he is too flaky...and that shows with his bizarre commentary today. On the other hand, Jordan was automatic from 20 ft and had unshakeable mentality. There's no way any sane person could argue that Pippen was somehow the more skilled player than MJ.
I love Dominque Wilkins, as a Spurs fan and David Robinson fan, there's no mistake that Wilkins was a great player. The Human Highlight Reel. Nothing but respect for him and he's pretty humble and intelligent too. He used to attack the basket with such aggression and athleticism. Another player often overlooked was Mitch Ritchmond. Dude would come off the bench and light up 20-30 points in a quarter and erase a huge lead.
Love this guy
I met Dominique once… I’m a grown-ass man in my 40s. THIS dude made me look like I was his child. Im 5’10”. Not tall, but not “short”.
Of course, he's 6'8".😂
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Dominique keeping it 💯. Love this! Jordan and Pippin need to let their egos take a hike somewhere, squash all beefs and do a podcast together and tell NBA stories. Everybody will tune in. Imagine if either were to pass away tomorrow, what would the other say about his former teammate? Both are forever linked but presently unlinked.
If you look at everything coming out you would see that one person is not saying anything and the other can't stop bringing it up. Best way to kill a stupid beef is with silence and that is what Mike is doing. Same thing he is doing with Isiah. He doesn't speak on it!!
@@requenewsome7250truth 💯
Salley gonna go to hell with all that lying he be doing smh
Salley was on the Lakers too so that would make Scottie more skilled than both Kobe and Mike. Please 😆😆 Salley gotta stop smoking that sh!t
Salley iz full of Brooklyn shit.....
😅😅😅😅
I love that Dominique brought up all those names. This whole GOAT talk is moronic and it takes away from the beauty of the game. So so many wonderful players who captured our imaginations about how this game can be played and what it can be. It's physical art when it's at its best.
You talk it, I live it💯🐐👑🧾💵
To hear Dominique Human Highlight Wilkins say this man... you know what is...
Niq is just so cool!
Nique…100% truth…good guy!
Even with a high skill level that may put you in the category with the greats… but that doesn’t make you the greatest, what makes you the greatest is the mentality, drive and will to win under pressure or any dire circumstances and be able to come thru and be successful on most occasions that is what separates great players from the greatest and only a few players had that mentality.
I compare Nas to Michael Jordan simply because of stuff like this … the haters … this man is skilled could do it all and people talk crazy or try to discredit him because they can’t win against him
Yeah I've been seeing it that way too.
"The Human Highlight Reel" was a Beast
Ppl forget Mike was the driving force behind that 84 Olympic BB GMW 🏅🏆 team Mike was the man fr the gate.🏀
I like Dominique a great player himself nice interview
It aint a Hawks game without Nique and Bob on the broadcast
Dominique Wilkins is righteous man, awesome my brother 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾
Vlad I’ll answer what that BS sally said
All MJ needed is one more star not all star A star
Since that he never lost
shout out my boi bob😤
I like the way Dominique calls it like it is.
The Human Highlight Film!
This is who I wanted to be like when I played ball
They need to beam Scottie up at this point!!
"What do you think of Scottie being pissed with some of the stuff in The Last Dance?"
"I haven't seen it but I have an opinion."
Dominique didn't need to see the documentary to have an opinion because he lived it.
Scottie created the point forward position
No he didn't
nique been my favorite player since I was 8 years old, I'm now 44 and ain't shit changed 💯📽️
I love DW
John Silly is a silly boy.
Probably prays with Puffy. 😆
Emergency care personnel should be present at every sporting event not only for the athletes, but it's other professions that adds to the broadcasting of a event Just because you ain't in the limelight doesn't mean you doesn't need help
Nique has always been a smart guy & a class act.
Nique’ is one of the greatest Hawks player of all time
"I dont to many people more skilled than Mike!"
I'll take Nique's word over any of these new era plumbers and firemen😂
Pippen was a very good player, but he was over shadowed by Jordan, Phil Jackson and even Rodman on those runs even though Rodman was not there the whole time. Pippen can't stand Barkley and. others, even though they did not get rings because they were "the man" on their teams, he never was that. Pippen although a great player was not an efficient scorer when you look at his percentages compared to other stars.
My childhoods fav player. I loved the human highlight film. Beautiful Atlanta days.