The Byrds - Live At Monterey: Lady Friend
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2008
- Live At the Monterey Pop Festival 6-17-67
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And After the song, i can't believe McGuinn thinks he's in tune!
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Much underrated Crosby composition
The vocals were buried in the studio version; although the orchestra parts were impressively arranged.
This, Renaissance Fair, Everybody's Been Burned...Crosby was hitting his marks by 1967...all tremendous songs
My favorite Byrd Song of ALL TIME.
I find this song catchy as hell. the drumming is very upbeat and the vocals are some their best. I wont lie i did overlook this song but i've beenn listening to it over and over again while working in the yard
Allways loved this song... genius band The Byrds....its kind of Beach Boys inflenced
Always one of my favourite Byrds songs ... the Flamin' Groovies did a great cover of this...
Lovely version. Maybe it's a little bit out of tune here and there but the live feeling is great. And it's a great song.
The middle eight of this song is awesome. Crosby sounds like he forgot the tune here
Half a century ago....whoa. I was ALIVE then.
What a thrill to finally hear this live! I wish the song had been included on the 'Notorious Byrd Brothers' lp, rather than languishing in obscurity for years. Though I understand that as a single in the summer of '67, it didn't fare all that well on the charts.
You are right about the lack of airplay of this song on the radio back in 1967. I lived in the Bay Area at the time and the song was rarely played on the radio and then it faded away.
Wow! Rockin'!
The Byrds at Monterey in June 1967 was pretty much Crosby's last fling with the band. It's interesting to hear that, live, they were more raw and harder-edged than you would imagine from their records. Around the same time, they appeared on the Carson Show doing 2 songs from 'Younger Than Yesterday'. Between songs, Crosby tuned up which pissed off the producer 'cos it messed up the flow of the show. Crosby responded:'Hey man, we tune because we care'. I'd love to see that clip on CZcams!
Terry Melcher was asked who was worst person to work with. David Crosby.
Charles Manson came in second.
Renaissance Fair is definitely 1 of my favourite Crosby tracks in the Byrds. I know Lady Friend should have been on Younger Than Yesterday. My 3 favourite Byrd albums Younger Than Yesterday, Notorious Byrd Brothers, Untitled/Unissued. All great albums. I'm a Beatles fan much more than the Byrds but i still like their music, especially Gene Clark. I have their albums Mr Tambourine Man, Turn, Turn, Turn, 5th Dimension, Younger Than Yesterday, Notorious Byrd Brothers, Dr Byrds and Mr Hyde, Ballad Of Easy Rider, Untitled/Unissued. Also some Gene Clark and Roger Mcguinn albums.
Seems that the only Byrd consistent throughout Monterey was Chris.
great song
Michael Clarke was rocking here - when he was engaged and interested, he was quite a good drummer.
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He's playing too fast for the great feel of the song.
My recollection is that LF was the B side of the Eight Miles high single, and included Gene Clark before he flew away. A later version was released, maybe on a compilation, without Gene Clark. Rhythm at the outro was slightly different
the Younger Than Yesterday CD has it as a bonus track. I'm sure also it's on the recent boxed set as well as The Essential Byrds.
Actually the movie Don't Make Waves is quite good. It has Tony Curtis and Caludia Cardinal. Sharon Tate is the girl that Curtis keeps seeeing on the beach. The title song was by the Byrds. The one used in the movie is a different mix than the one released on the b side of the 45. It was a genre quickie done for the movie. I enjoy Dave Crosby's sarcastic comment at the end; "Lets Double it! Masterpiece". That last comment is not heard in the movie itself.
This needed to be on Younger Than Yesterday rather than the odious Mind Gardens (which McGuinn once referred to as "Chewy, Chewy").
in the UK it was Dont Make Waves...i bought it but not many others did...it got zero airplay
jim
I Love David CROSBY Roger MCGUINN
well mainly cause it was the last song after some alternate tracks on my yty cd. its unreleased songs from that album are so good it makes you wonder why they didnt keep them on there since the albums so short
'Lady Friend' was recorded after 'Younger Than Yesterday' was released, during the very early sessions for 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'. It would have made more sense if they included it as a 'NBB' bonus track.
Crosby really oversings on this drowning out McGuinn . A shame because it's a great song!
He over talks in Monterey, seems yo think its the Crosby band, he was fired just months later partly due to this set.
@hookalakah It most definately is Michael Clarke on the record...he could be a bit unsteady live at times, but I can tell his style anywhere, plus it's documented that it's actually him on "Lady Friend". The only songs he didn't drum on while he was a member of The Byrds are:Mr. Tambourine Man, I Knew I'd Want You, Goin' Back, Natural Harmony, Wasn't Born To Follow, Get To You, and Tribal Gathering. everything else is him up until he officially left the band in December of 1967
And Dolphin's Smile.
Don't Make Waves was, I believe, written as theme music for a cheesy teen comedy starring the late Sharon Tate.
I was gonna say, from what I've read, Pennebaker didn't film every song by every artist. Some artists probably didn't get filmed at all (possibly some of them refused permission), while others there's just one or two songs. I believe there were two songs, Can You See Me and Purple Haze, I think, that weren't filmed during Hendrix's set, for instance.
Also, it's possible that some stuff that WAS filmed got junked after the initial documentary was released.
McGuinn sacked Parsons because he didn't like his drumming. I can see why. And Clarke did play on NBB. His drumming on the slow version of Goin Back I really like.
The Fuck!? Who's on drums,Pete Best??
Apparently, it's Michael Clarke... LOL... apparently
The problem is the same with the Beatles when they played tunes like Papper Back Writer.
Not all great work is recognized for what it is.
Unfortunately, almost all pre-1974 Tonight Shows were erased so that the tape could be re-used.
How can their vocals be so good on record, but so ragged live?
Crappy PA system. Poor soundman or setup.
Also, I think they double tracked their harmonies in the studio.
More than likely no stage monitors. They had only been invented a few years earlier by a suggestion from Just Garland.
Pretty sure Crosby does all the harmonies. I read somewhere that the band was pissed that he wiped their vocals and replaced them with his own.
@@raymondkitchen6137 That´s an easy one: Producer GARY USHER !!
good song, but how do hey stand so still
thought they filmed ALL sets at Monterey..why are there only 3 Byrds songs available afetr 40 years from Monterey.cant thy release the full set to DVD?
Yeah, the movie was just on TV a few nights ago. I watched it. A fun little picture.
Are there any notable imitation Byrds bands?
The oficial Goin Back was with Jim Gordon. The version one with Clark, but Jim is better. I think the real diference came with Gene.
the Byrds better song
I never said it wasnt a nice song. I just gave the reasons why I dont think it was a hit.The reason you overlooked it is why it wasnt a hit.
He only used them on the first single..Tambourine man
Jim
Them? You mean the SESSION guys!
Best song Crosby ever wrote.
mine and many others because it went nowhere. The problem was it was the same Byrds 12 string jangle sound. If anything it wasn't as good sonically as the first two albums. Crosby makes no bones about the muddy production. They had regressed in that regard and hadn't really progressed consistently a whole lot in terms of songwriting as other major bands of the time by 1967. Particularly given the era where bands were making strides with every new release. They did push the boundaries on occasion
Glenn Wheatcroft ... ? WTF
Supposedly this performance got Crosby kicked out of the band
Was it his performance or stupid speeches and comments?
The rest of the band was pissed that Crosby sat in with Buffalo Springfield during their set at Monterey.
John Jones yeah he got kicked out of the Byrds not just because of sitting in with the Buffalo Springfield it was the speech he gave as well🤔... Think October or November 67 they told him to go..... apparently Crosby was getting too big headed wanted things his way! etc etc
Its a shame what happened with this song... it should've been huge. So many problems, etc... The only Byrds song I like more is Eight Miles High.
My personal favorite Mike moment is on Eight Miles. The Bydrs sounds better on Notorious with Jim Gordon or after with Gene Parsons.
"We are not going to play anything you want to hear tonight but I AM going to do ALL the talking for the band and hog as much of the attention as I can. The drummer will screw up the beginning because he hates me, as does everyone else in the band, the ex-manager, the roadies, and everyone at Columbia. They are just jealous of me because I am so tall and thin and have such a great hairline."
The guy playing the Rickenbacker was thought to be just as odious and oppositional as the guy with the perfect hairline, maybe worse. They both made life intolerable for Gene Clark, who had a level of musical and lyrical creativity those two could only dream about possessing, so shame on them. Clark had real soul, not "showbiz" soul. And I for one am happy that the era of music they guided into creation, eventually swallowed McGuinn and Crosby whole and turned them into relics in pretty short order. Conversely, Gene Clark, largely on the strength of his solo work but also for providing The Byrds the many songs that comprise their best work as a group, has gained legendary status. Always nice to hear that life IS sometimes fair.
@@rogermurray8553 Thanks. I believe you are right about McGuinn and Crosby's ego trips. Crosby's solid relationships and contributions with many other musicians overwhelmed McGuinn's and resulted in some amazing musical collaborations. All The Byrds are very talented musicians...except Mike. Their music is their legacy and it's very wonderful.
....But other times (even on records) he sounds totally lost... why do you think Melcher used session drummers (Blaine and Gordon) on the early "HIT" singles!
( my personal "favorite" Mike Clarke moment is on "5D" when he comes out of the bridge and starts downbeating on the backbeat and somehow wrangles himself out of it!
He also drummed for Gene Clark, also Firefall, and Burrito Bros so he must have improved with time.
Damn, Michael Clark is sure heavy-handed on this one. Hal Blaine--or maybe John Guerin--probably played drums on the great recording of "Lady Friend."
Guy basically learned how to play drums on the job. Still, found steady work with the Burritos and Firefall as he grew into it.
though there is a nice melody going on somewhere. It doesnt really lead to anything noteworthy
A fine song albeit not commercial sounding, flopping as a single. It must have stuck in Crosby's craw that "Going Back" was a modest hit.
The woman backup singer is drowning everyone else out....barely can hear Roger.
Woman backup singer?
it has no hook or chorus that sticks in your brain.
I wish Crosby had never been in the Byrds although he did a few good songs.
I wish all the beatings he received had WORKED! Still, his best writing ended with "NOTORIOUS....".
Why this is sloppy, look at the drummer Michael Clarke, never could play, mediocre. Saw him front a "Byrds" band where he was the only member, and people were pissed off, me included.
phillip ph Roger played the intro the same way he did on the record. Michael dragged the tempo a little bit, and he tried to compensate by rushing.
A few sloppy fills here and there, but to be fair he's keeping reasonable time. Clarke was arguably the weakest link and was hired more for his looks, never having played a drum kit before joining the band. Early rehearsals saw him banging away on cardboard boxes. Hillman's fast-track transition from bluegrass mandolin to an excellent bassist was much smoother. A drummer with chops on a level with Chris would have improved their sound dramatically.
@@Stephanjnj If I am not wrong, he played on the records. If he made up his parts, I would give him recognition because a great deal of that work is simply wondeful and contributes to make those songs much better.
His drumming improved consistently over the years, and had a fairly strong 8th note right hand as heard in songs such as 'Mr. Spaceman'. Sloppy fills sure, but with the live setting, lack of stage monitors, and a generally ploddy rhythm as with the released record, the odds are stacked against him unfairly. Eight Miles High is a good example of his power but unfortunately you can scarcely hear him given the lack of a proper mix and remaster of any of The Byrds records, as The Beatles have since done.
Michael Clarke...just awful...missed everything...maybe he was too high?