VW Passat GTE FULL REVIEW - is this PHEV the best choice? 2021 Passat facelift - Autogefühl
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Hi, I have neen owning two GTE's now and I still very or rather extremely disapointed on the buold quality. A few of serveral big things was and still are in the new face lift:
1. After while your suspensions starts giving bad noise. To cheap component or to weak or both?
2. Plastic/matetial noise inside the coupe. After the 3rd visit to VW, they replaced a plastic part around the automatic gear changer and the noise disapared. Then a new constant constant plastic noise showed up inside on the right front console or door.
3. If you charge the battery while drivning, it generates a high frequent screaming noise that wake up your neighbours.
==》I would try some of the other ones that finally has picked up on battery capacity (still to low it should be real 100 km), BMW, Mercedes or RAV with 4 wheel drive and 75km!
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My favourite part is the driving through German cities and towns. Reminds me of when I lived in Hamburg.
=)
Was your experience in Germany good?
The Best ever @@dragospahontu
Hey Thomas. Absolutely love your reviews: So comprehensive and always delivered in that calm considered way. It would be great if you could give precise fuel consumption figures for your tests, especially for PHEVs as there can be such a deviation according to driving style and circumstances. Keep up the good work!
Best car reviewer on youtube by far! Greetings from Sweden! :)
tak for det =)
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Thomas you did a good and detailed review of this version of the vw passat estate. Keep up the good work on this youtube channel !
Great video, very detailed and great information as always
This channel deserves more attention
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Thanks Thomas. Great job as usual
As always great review
All in all a well balanced review of the Passat GTE as having one not facelifted one at work.
One thing about the range in EV mode, it's not great, it optimistically tells you 45-50km range when you start depending ambient temperature. One gets like 25km-30km out of that driving economical. We also have a Kia Niro plug-in and it says 50 km range when one starts and goes 50km even when it's colder outside when driving normal.
I really hope they have improved the real world EV range now because it shames an otherwise very nice car.
Another fantastic review, Thomas. Will you be looking at the Golf8 GTE?
Great review of a great car!
I really love it with the 17" aero wheels.
thanks and stay with us =)
Just got this car today in the UK!
This was a perfectly German overview of the car!
Enjoy 😊
thank you for this wonderful review. just to check, ho much was the fuel consupmtion at 140km/h ? thank you
Very Nice Review.. Great Job
thanks keep following !
Would be good if you could measure boot height during reviews i.e what's the biggest box you can fit in. Love your stuff though :).
Do the Skoda Suberb iV PHEV next! It's the direct contender, and it's even bigger. Love your reviews! :D
Great video thanks🎉
Don’t mention the war. By far the best review of this car. Excellent and cherish your accent!
Great footage and very smooth video to watch especially from the cab of the vehicle while driving. 👍
appreciated :)
Good old passat, so many years flag model of vw. Looks great
Thanks for the review. What is the cargo capacity in liters? I have had varied results from google search.
Do you recommend the adaptive suspension or is the standard suspension comfortable enough?
At 4.50 when Thomas “claps” his feet before entering. I do the same, a man with a true passion for cars!👍🇩🇰
Awesome 😎
Are you guys planning to test the second generation all electric Nissan Leaf? I think this will be an interesting review .
I own a Passat SW GTE and This is the best car that I had !
Agreed. I too own a Passat GTE and it's brilliant. Is it the most exciting car i've ever owned? No. But it's so good in so many ways.
Thomas in the title asks: is this PHEV the best choice? Yes, possibly the best choice of Passat - but one of the most expensive Passats! Basically, PHEVS (and BEV's) are nice (and can be fun) but are expensive! Or very expensive. I'd want a PHEV with a long EV range - and affordable. I will stick to my old E-NV200 Combi for short trips, and continue to charge at home - I hate horrid public charging stations! Our E-NV200 is all we can afford as a BEV! Great Review as always.
Might be different for different countries due to taxes and such. Here in Norway it's the cheap choice as you don't pay sales tax on electric and hybrid cars. That tax would be around 12k euro for a petrol or diesel car
I have the first gen Passat variant GTE from 2016. There is a few things I like better on mine. First the Active info display is bigger on mine, but not so customizable as the new smaller display. And I like the old analog clock, The new steering wheel looks good. What I really would want from the new on my older one is the bigger battery (and e range) and the new IQ head lights, and a few of the new and updated driver aids.
But all in all the changes is not that big. I love mine and have driven it 110 000 km.
What's ur experience? Real life consumption, do u charge it often, did ur mixed fuel cost reduce? Too much wear on tires due to weight?
Roger Medal what is current ev range on your passat?
Thanks
@@vickus1000 it's now like 25 til 30 km. It has now 150 000km on it.
I hope we get this one in the States. The I.4 is already being tested here.
Simple nice looking design I can't wait for the alltrack to come
What is the creaking sound on braking?
I know it's not the right place for that here, but when will you try the new 4series?
I looooooooove the Passat! ❤️❤️❤️ I had two of them in a row, a 2014 and a 2017, company cars, of course SW diesel 150cv dsg. Now I have an Audi A4 avant, which is somehow more posh and refined, but I have to admit I miss a little bit the larger boot and the super solid and “down to earth” interior design of the Passat. In three years I’m going to replace the Audi, and I’m really already considering to come back to the 2023my Passat, and why not hybrid! By that time I think most company cars won’t be diesel anymore.
Go for passat! :D allways!
I have a b7 Passat, 1.6tdi.... 😅 and I definitely want to make the jump to the new GTE.
The Heads Up display on the mail windscreen is very expensive, especially when a tiny rock hits and damages it...it’s expensive to replace.
P.S. I miss my 2007 Passat 2.0t 6-Speed. It had umbrella storage inside the driver’s door. It was made in Germany, I refuse to acknowledge the North American Passat when it’s more of a Camry than a BMW 3 series like the European ones are.
Könnt ihr auch den CLA 250e Shooting Brake testen? 😁😋
I always love it when you put Above&Beyond on the stereo... #Anjunafamily, hope to see you on ABGT450 ;)
It’s a damn shame Volkswagen won’t bring this or their other wagons to the states. We have had all of their Sportwagens from the Passat to the Jetta TDi and two Golf Sportwagens. We have now the 2018 SEL Golf Sportwagen and I now have a 2012 Volvo XC70. Amazing that VW USA thinks we don’t want wagons. At least Volvo does. Probably hold onto our Golf Sportwagen for a while.
What about a testdrive of the Hybrid Arteon?
Mine is hopefully ready in two weeks. Same colour, same Pirelli tires. Different rims, I believe. Analogue cluster, 8" screen. No ambient lightning, no sunroof :(, but I do get the parking assist, rear camera, DCC and all the assist toys.
I'm still undecided if I miss the blue GTE brake calipers, or if they indeed left it out on this colour because it would kinda clash :).
We’re it an option, I would have opted for this over my new 22 Tiguan SE.
I do love the Tiguan.
I would like this with the drivetrain of the touareg r PHEV
All the people here who claim that Thomas is driving a 2020 model because the 2021 model "has digital climate controls" are wrong.
The 2021 model has the same "analog" climate controls as the 2020. You are probably confused because you have seen pictures of the Arteon 2021 which DOES have digital climate controls.
No, this is true...only the 2020 has the old climate controls...newer have touch slighters only...awful.
hello.. is there any problem with running the car on electric mode during winter? I've heard that some plug-in cars cannot run on electricity when there is freezing.. thank you
Great Review - many thanks. Passat or a Tiguan - very similar cars...! A Tiguan is just a shorter more compact, jacked up Passat B8 Estate with an airier cabin...
... except the Tiguan is bigger on the outside, considerably smaller on the inside and has a pointlessly higher cargo area so you have to lift stuff higher. Less practical and less fuel efficient but hey, you get to feel all big and stuff when you drive your SUV.
Does it still have huge problems with the transmission mechatronics breaking down every so often?
At 23:00 GTE mode acceleration ✌
Hallo Thomas. Are u reviewing a 2020 model? The MJ2021 model has a new control system for the AC, heating (same as the Arteon). looks nicer, works ok. (also a new steering wheel - new VW logo in the center)
"The MJ2021 model has a new control system for the AC, heating (same as the Arteon)."
No, it does not.
I was hoping for the amg gt black series presentation...
I'm looking for a touring/break car with sportivity, +/-200 HP, hybrid. What should i get, Passat variant, V60 or A4 Avant or other manufacturers?
Designer : how many DRLs do you want?
Director : Yes
It seems to be quite similar to the Passat GTE MY2018 that I own except for a few design aspect and the "improved" full electric range...
I had the pre facelift model for 2years and this new facelift is really improved the driving feeling. I dint go for the DCC becouse it was better without it for some reason.. actually rides better than my wife's 5 series BMW 😁
For the negatives, the 9.2" radio is a dissapointment, laggy and I hate a radio that has user profiles that logs out whenever it feels to. I feel that im somekind of a Beta tester for the software :(
Oh yes ans A CLOCK for the instruments would be nice to! :D
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Fast forward 10 years when a set of rear indicator units right a car off economically.
In my country (Belgium) it was not possible to order an upgraded soundsystem with the GTE because of the battery in the boot (no space for a subwoofer). However, I see here that there is a dynaudio sound system. Is this the same as the 8 + 1 speaker system (which was standard in BE?)
Too late. But I’m thinking now the same and have the same question about Arteon Shooting Brake GTE without possibility to buy premium audio on Hybrid version (in France)… I don’t understand is it the same sound without label or not.
Hello dear Autogefuel.
Would it be possible for future reviews of hybrids cars or electric ones to say something about battery replacement in case of a damaged one? Because i think it is an important aspect of repair costs for example. Just my 2c
Not sure if this is needed...after 90k km and about 12k km per Year pure electric, I can not see any degradation so far. I think the Batterie will survive the car
@@josefv8708 thank you for the reply. What if one batery is damadged and need replacement. Would all baterry pack needs to be replaced or can the damadged one be single replaced. I mean compared to the clasical toyota prius for example. I don't mean this particular car but rather in general. I need to know what would be the expenses in this case. If the car is out of warranty, and we know vw does not give so much, and as today all is "made in China" i need to consider possible costs. Sure if it possible to give the information on the review you are making and if the auto company is willing to give the information. Thank you again.
I don’t think this is very often the case
@@josefv8708 is the EV mode useful? Or maybe Toyota Camry hybrid is better.
The ambient light is optional right? Or is it always onboard as a GTE bonus?
optional of course... VW pricing policy ;P
Does it still sound like the intro to Personal Jesus by Depeche Mode when you start it? My 2017 Passat GTE did that...
Loooool now that u say it... :D yeah I guess I know what you mean and yeah it still does it... lol I‘m always gonna think of that now when I start it :D
7:40 congrats to the camera
Ok, now we are all waiting for Arteon R!!!
Hi, does the Passat GTE have scheduled charging?
Yes, at least you can program departure time and such. I believe it controls interior climate and charging.
Please recommend 🙏🙏🙏
I wonder why WV has keept the screen so low in the console? Why not take it further up?
Because it looks ugly
The Passat Wagon is my dream car. Not a Ferrari, not a Rolls-Royce, but a Passat Wagon. #wagonlove
How much is this one. Just bought a used one, 2018. That one was £46k new. 😮😮😮 Tbh, I wouldn't have paid that sum for it new. Tge car is beautiful, thou. And even the old one I got, very nice. And I love tge central clock.
Amazing review, thank you! I am considering this car for my next purchase and I am curious about something: what is the difference between GTE mode (max performance) vs. Sport mode? It seems to me at a first glance that is the same thing.
It is not the same... GTE Mode is using both engines all the time and Sportsmode is only a DCC setting for steering and suspension.
AND...if you change to Sportsmode you leave the GTE Mode into the Hybrid-Mode. The GTE Mode has its onw steering and suspension mode, which is the most stiffest one...and unfortunatelly you can not adjust it, but you have to stay with it, if you want the full power...not possible to combine max engine power (ICE+eEngine) and normal DCC mode for example.
@@josefv8708 thanks
@@josefv8708 is the hybrid mode useful? What is the average fuel economy long term?
@@dragospahontu Yes, definitely. The fuel economy varies a huge amount based on city or motorway driving, normal commutes to work would be electric only which costs about £1 to charge fully giving you about 45 miles. Slightly longer journeys or motorway driving will have the hybrid jump in automatically which keeps it at a very good.
A 200 mile long drive to Wales gave me about 56mpg.
@@Yamezzzz wow so it's actually pretty good providing you charge the battery.
I love station wagon car💓🤩 I ❤️ VW
Huuhuhuhu
@@BrateTebra123 ❤️💓🌟😺🦆
@Johnny Dong Hello 😀🌻🌟
This is the 2020 model :) the 2021 model has digital climate operation.
A perfect car.
How does this compare to a Skoda Suberb Estate Hybrid? What are the similarities and differences?
A LOT of similarities. The Skoda is a tiny bit longer in the wheelbase, and has a reported boot space that is +/- 27 litres more. I also believe the normal suspension is a bit more 'floaty' in the Skoda, but if you get the DCC on both and set them to Sport, they feel the same. So, the Skoda is extremely similar but bigger. But if you notice the space increase in practise remains to be seen. Weirdly enough, the Skoda was cheaper when new, but is more expensive in occasions now.
I would love to have that machine but with a solid Manual Transmission !!!
Hi! It sounds that there is some outside "engine sound" in the E-mode / electric drive. I have a 2020 model GTE but the car makes no e-mode engine sound. Is there a way to activate it? Or is it new for the 2021 model and forward?
Greetings from Norway😎
That regulation probably wasn’t already counting for your model
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I have a dec-2019 model (still a facelift), and it doesn't have the 'e-sound button' that I see on every 2020+ model. So I guess it just wasn't ready on the early facelifts or something, or the regulation came in later.
What! They removed one of the most useful features of the car - the analog clock.
Volkswagen needs to send you a North American Passat to review(in Germany). In no way is it comparable to it's European counterpart.
The US Passat ist trash. The interior feels cheap and old. And it makes a lot of wind noise when you drive it on the highway.
The EU Passat is a completly different car, you can compare it to an Audi A4.
Those fake exhaust are not fake and not exhaust also. Take it as furniture. Normal thing for audi and vw.
2:42 That's it i'm done xD
Does it have android auto?
I think brutal turning on of an idle engine on an Autobahn brings lots of wear and tear to it (cold temperature, no oil up...). I think plugin hybrid needs some thinking about your journey to avoid this occurrence.
Agree with you. Your concern is driven from the now old concept of buy and hold for 10 or + years. Manufacturers have adhere to the smartphone business model which means own or rent it for no more than 3 - 4 years. When at end cycle, return it and rent or buy new one. If you add the incertitude of battery longevity, then the endless unknown loop is just perfect!!!
The TSI engine's in the GTE are NOT the same as the standard 1.4 TSI.
The cylinder liners & pistons in the engine block on the GTE have been treated to prevent wear when been worked hard when the engine is cold.
@@tr10151 Battery longevity is the least problem. My 2002 Prius has its original battery... (Yes I keep my car 10+ !...)
What Excell4ente said is right + if the combustion engine start (let‘s say when u kickdown in e-mode) there‘s a timespan in which u can‘t turn the combustion engine off (u can‘t switch to e-mode). It prevents it from being reved up high and instantly turned off again.
The engine is completely software controlled. Even if you kickdown in E mode, it starts and waits a few seconds and controls the revs. Also, I believe the oil is preheated through the block and the pump going even if the engine itself is not running. It's made to be shutdown and started again in a whim (the same as other start-stop engines, although those always run when driving.). It also won't turn off completely directly after, and starts every now and again to run some checks and makes sure it will not choke up.
21:22 about the capacitive steering wheel: is one hand steering enough or you need to keep both hands on at the same time?
In other VW videos it has been enough with one hand
Its enough with one hand
German auto makers consistently frustrate USA consumers with their failure to offer the same cars here. If you complain to dealers they say complain to manufacturers .
I mean if they would offer the same cars in the US it would be a lot more expensive (for americans). And the average american doesn‘t wanna spend that extra money on a car.
Lets be honest, Passat is still most convenient ,practical and best all-around limo/estate in the world
superb is better
@@t-bone9239 naa
From the on-board camera looks like a rather stiff suspension...
it needs to be stiffer than the 1.5 tsi because the weight from the batteries needs to be dealt with.
I see that's not just a coincidence, will you whistle every time when you will encounter fake exhaust? :)
Yes, of course, it’s the siren of the autogefühl “Fake Exhaust Police”
That passat text instead of clock is terrible. They really had no idea what to do with that space without clock inside
fresty I had the previous two generations, both with the clock, and it looked awesome! I know it was just cosmetics because you have at least other two clocks in the dash and infotainment, but I wish they would have left the clock also for this MY.
@@Lasergun74 well its obvious penny savings
fresty of course. Sad anyway
Last time I wrote: get rid of the handheld mic...now the mic is gone..BRAVO!
PHEV...because it saves me £2-300 per month on tax.
How can you say that it is good for tall people when you are not one your self...
shiny black plastic everywhere... designers have gone mad
"it looks more modern aus" 😄
Dark blue car. Dark blue top... Check. XD
=)
This car actually had to be redesigned because it’s taking too long
It's incredibly annoying to see VW cutting the weirdest corners in their cars, considering how expensive every single model of theirs has become. The HUD isn't even projected onto the windscreen in this €50000+ car. You can get that feature in cars that cost half of this one.
Every car will be more expensive, bit then again volkswagen group really ups the ante. Looking at the small C-segment: a BMW 118i isn't that more expensive than its peers, actually quite competitively priced and with great drive dynamics it gives as base model
@@DennisDinges I know this isn't a good comparison but you can almost buy 2 entry level 1 series for the price of this Passat.
@@NotCommanderShepard Even more affordable. But a comparabke 3 series goes way over this passat
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Still looks like my old passat b8 , and when talking about quality ....the plastics are not as good as one would hope, and I'm not talking about scratchy or soft, but when it's hot outside or the road is not super flat(no bumps) it pops a bit .....but the car is nice .
I’m so jealous, love that car, I personally own a B6 Passat 2006, but I live in Montreal, and they are no longer making the Passat, plus I never liked the American made Passats they are boring cars with fake muscle, and styling, no character.
You cant order from europe?
@@HardcoreWeeaboo I’m not too sure if I can, in Canada we have strict environmental laws, plus, nowadays shipping anything in containers is becoming expensive and a logistical bureaucratic nightmare!
You can get the NMS Passat
@@dragospahontu what’s the NMS Passat?
@@stevenhombrados1530 north American Passat
Hahah just enjoy this
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I agree
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