The Phoenix i PROTOTYPE 2020- The Worlds First Smart Wheelchair. Protoype chair!
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- * 2024 UPDATE* This is a prototype chair from 2020 which won the Toyota Mobility Unlimited Challenge. Adjustable COG is a feature we are still developing. This feature is not available on the Phoenix i Hybrid which will be released in 2024. The Phoenix i Hybrid features our integral front wheel power assist. Check it out here: www.phoenixinstinct.com/phoen...
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The Phoenix i is the first ever wheelchair to Intelligently configure itself on the move. The i adjusts its COG (centre of gravity) to stay in sync with the user’s COG. At all times the i maintains minimum weight through the front wheels reducing drag for vastly easier pushing and turning. Leaning forward or sitting back the chair will respond with the user so it won’t over balance and tip.
If you hang a heavy bag off the back of the Phoenix i the chair will know and will adjust the centre of gravity so the chair doesn’t become tippy.
The result of intelligent centre of gravity is a chair that feels completely in sync with the user pushing it.
As finalists in the Toyota Mobility Foundation #MobilityUnlimited Challenge we are striving to see SMART wheelchairs become the norm. We believe SMART technology is going to revolutionise the wheelchair in the same way it has done for the phone.
Find out if the judges of the Mobility Unlimited Challenge share our vision and award Phoenix Instinct funding to put the first smart wheelchair into production.
You can see Toyota announce the winners on Dec 17 by signing up here:
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An update on the progress of the Phoenix i:
The much anticipated Phoenix i will soon be here featuring our unique, AWD (All Wheel Drive) technology.
"Game changing" is a much over used term that often isn’t the case. What we have created is genuinely life changing technology.
The Phoenix i lightweight Hybrid incorporates full time power assist bringing a whole new level of control, braking and ease of pushing in a chair that’s lightweight, compact and easy to transfer.
The new Phoenix i system will soon be available as a retro fit for Phoenix Pure wheelchairs and available to buy already fitted and sold as a Phoenix i Hybrid.
The Phoenix i begins an evolution of the manual wheelchair towards smart technology. Its first feature will be the integral power assist. The adjustable COG is currently still in development.
We will post more information over the coming weeks. We are in Melbourne for the Oceania Seating Symposium next week where we will demonstrate the features of the Phoenix i for the first time!
Check out the Phoenix i in action here: czcams.com/users/shortskqjZKFHnk0g?feature=share
I've been use wheelchair for long years, I don't think it is a need to adjust the gravity all the times, but it still seems a good direction to develop the convenient function to improve the life quality
I agree, moving wheels also means you'll need to adjust your push every single time it moves.
But beeing able to carry heavier backpack is an advantage.
The frame is awesome as well.
Cheers Brad! This is just our prototype chair so we are sure you will like the real thing even more! Watch this space!
"i'm not sure rolling back and forth with the movement on public transport's a great idea, especially if you have people sharing the seating or standing room only with your wheelchair. I once had 3 people and a pushchair in the same space as my now retired guide dog, who did tuck himself away underneath the double seat where me and my ex were sitting on a very long busride, but the lady with the pushchair was worried she'd roll over the dog's paws when she got off at her stop. Fortunately, the dog could stand up and move sufficiently to let the pushchair off.
Very nice design, the only thing I would suggest is wider front casters because the narrow wheels get caught in craves caught in holes. The design the front leg part to come out farther for stability, or maybe that's why the wheels move and adjust. I've been in a wheelchair over 40 year's or more so have some experience in riding wheelchairs mostly julopies chairs but I made them work. Never own an expensive wheelchair.
Thanks I first seen this about 10 years ago with the moving seat.
Great lightweight wheelchair
Thank you for your innovation! ♥️
Thank you!!
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd buy
Excellent design……you sir are brilliant!
Thank you!!
Looks amazing! I'm sure my son will be in the queue for one when they're released.
Thanks Katrina!
Oooooh I love this! Very clever! Smart wheelchairs / please begin in Scotland :)
You will be please to know we are a Scottish business :)
Hello from Canada! Awesome looking chair. I hope to someday have an opportunity to try this chair. Keep up the innovative work.
Thank you for your great feedback :) More news coming about the Phoenix i soon! We currently have the non electronic version for sale 🙂
Looks amazing. Does it have brakes? Does the backrest have any adjustable straps for comfort?
I would love to try it!!
Looks like a brilliant innovation Andrew. Kudos to you!
Thanks Chris! Exciting times ahead now that we have secured the funding to bring this chair to market!
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A useful feature would be to have it compensate for surfaces with camber to one side, perhaps by locking/freezing one or both castor swivels, so the chair tracks in a straight line instead of veering to the downhill side. It seems to me you have much of the needed tech in the chair already, so it wouldn't take much.
Thank you for your feedback. Its awesome to hear others ideas. The Phoenix i will be designed so that it can continue to develop new technologies so ideas are always welcome to us.
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd haha ur great
Had a question on getting bigger tires for my chair, the ones I have now are 24" 1 3/8 I'm looking for all terrain knobby ones, I'd appreciate any information you could give..
nice innovation, love to see more of its vide0s
Thank you! More videos to come in due course!
I don't know if this is possible (I know it can be done with brakes). Though I have been thinking if it is possible to make the push/handrims in a way that would allow the wheelchair to go forward when the user pushes to 'go backwards' and vice versa. And if that could be made easily changeable then I think it would be a holy grail.
Pure genious!!!!
Good job 👍😊
Mujhe bhi chaiye thi ye pr mil nahi sakti😓
Interesting!! My wife is in wheelchair all her life, she sits in a slightly tilted position towards her side, I am not sure how this will adjust the CG given most of her weight is not really in the centre, Also it would be great if the seat too gets adjusted horizontally depending on the sitting position.
Congratulations on pushing the envelope of wheelchair design. Reading through the comments it is obvious that it is impossible to design the perfect solution for every single wheelchair user, but I see great potential in combining technology and modern wheelchair design. As a physician with over 30 years in a wheelchair, I have been frustrated by the slow pace of improvement in wheelchair design. Far more effort goes in to bike and car design. So kudos to you for trying! Hopefully, there will be options to fit the needs of as many users as possible. E.g. user selected hand brakes (push to lock), power assist for assist up AND down slopes including diagonal slopes, removable battery that can be charged separately over night or as a spare, ability to turn off/on power assist or COG with single button, etc. Perhaps those that don't desire COG and/or power assist can chose those features as options? I can see how COG optimization would help navigating the cobblestone roads of Europe!
Hi John, thanks for your comment and great to hear you are also excited about the Phoenix i. We are still working on the chair but our aim is for it to be smart enabled so that different features will be a choice. Smart COG is just one of the features we are working on. We will be sharing more info as we get further into the development. Watch this space!
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd I can't wait to see what you come up with. The world of bicycles and electric cars have seen such amazing innovations with lightweight materials and batteries, regenerative braking, etc. So much room for improvement in wheelchair design. For those commenters who don't see a need or potential for these innovations, they probably aren't your "early adopter" market, but may see the benefits down the line as the technology becomes more mainstream and affordable. I know the younger patients at our hospital look forward to tech advances in disability devices.
@@johnhauschildt4460 It's not about not being early adopters, it's about knowing what is not necessarily a good idea, based on decades of experience actively navigating pretty much every environment. As an active user it is imperitive that you and the chair act as one, and a constantly shifting centre of gravity goes against that concept. Top marks for the innovation, but in reality it's addressing a problem that is not a problem for a great many wheelchair users.
Nice!!
Have you made or are you planning to make a smart wheelchair that still allows the legs to be raised up (so knee to foot section of leg sticks out horizontally instead of vertically down), please?
I think that is wonderful.
I am still relatively new wheelchair user and have had many falls forward and backwards.
This may not be a product as needed for experienced users but for new it would be so helpful.
It would reduce the chance of extra injury.
Is this an available product or an experimental one?
If it is or becomes available are options available for a more independent type of user?
Such as quick release wheels, easy or fast breakdown for self transfers so to decrease weight and space.
Or will this be something that can be a standalone system that attached to a seat frame?
@@tomhow537 Hi Tom, thanks for your comment. This is our prototype chair which we are currently developing. We secured $1 million funding to bring the chair to market in December 2020 as the winner of the Toyota Mobility Foundation Challenge. We have a sign up link on our website which allow you to be the first to know when we share new information about the chair. Check it out here: www.phoenixinstinct.com/phoenix-i-wheelchair
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd wow congratulations and thank you
I have nerve related balance issues. I’m thinking this constantly moving would make me dizzy.
If my manual chair cost almost 3k so im wondering how much that I want a manual chair wit power wheels that u steer & brake with 1 handed or just with head movements
Noticed something completely unrelated to the chair in this, the ramp on the train. I've just come back from a few days in Blackpool (first day was last Tuesday, hottest day we've ever had, great timing) and used the trams and buses a lot, getting on and off was a breeze due to either not needing a ramp (trams) or the ramp being automatically controlled by the driver from his driver's seat (bus) no need for a manual ramp being set up. Isn't it about time trains had this?
Precisely, I bet they discounted it due to cost and time to deploy but it should be mandatory on new carriages.
Looks great! Well done, a true inspiration.
Thank you!! A great end to 2020!
Well done for winning, if you need any testers or development guinea pigs then let me know!
thank you!!
What kind of push rims are those?
Great idea, I wonder how much extra weight it adds though?
Since the frame is carbon fibre, I'm sure the chair is comparable to a full manual chair.
Wheelchair Repair & Distribution:
Wheelchair repair and maintenance project is running smoothly under the supervision of Mr. Tek
Bahadur Budhathoki inside the CDCA premises. Our main goal is to collect the old wheelchair
and repair them and make them reusable. We collect the old wheelchair from different
organizations like CP Nepal, Spinal Injury Rehabilitation Center, and BIA & from individuals as
well. The main problem while repairing the wheelchair is that we couldn't find easily find the spare
parts which is the main challenge. With Mr. Tek Bdr Budhathoki and Ramchandra, they had
repaired 13 wheelchairs & this wheelchair is from CP Nepal & Shanti Sewa Griha and from an
individual as well. Just few weeks ago we got old wheelchairs from Jawalakhel Wheelchair Sports
Club (JWSC) for repairing but all this wheelchairs are sports wheelchairs. So, it's difficult to repair
them because we couldn't find the spare parts of this wheelchair.
What if you are short, would there be a configuration possible for a 1 metre tall person?
I'm happy to be a guinea pig in New Zealand 😎. I think this tech is really awesome.
Thank you! Right now we are still developing the Phoenix i so we aren’t looking for testers at the moment. Thank you for getting in touch, we are very grateful for the offer. We will be sure to contact you if the opportunity arises.
Very interesting but don’t you lose energy when you push with the traveling of the COG like that?
Thanks for your comment. The COG staying in sync with the user minimising the weight in the front wheels. This will reduce drag and make pushing and turning much easier.
When will this be available in the Netherlands?
It's a beautiful design but what do all the mechanics of it weigh
How much does it weigh with the battery and gubbins to shift the centre of gravity?
I imagine that add quite a bit. Also how long does the battery last with it shifting around all day?
When it runs out of juice you need to push that heavy battery around
Hi Richard, the chair is still in development right now so we cant give out any final weights or tell you at the moment how long the battery will last. Register on our website and you will be the first to know when this information is revealed. Thank you.
Any update on availability?
Is it FDA approved?
Is your product available for purchase in Texas United States? Could you add the measurement of the chair? Is it foldable or not?
This chair is our prototype Phoenix i and is in development! The Phoenix i will be released hopefully next year - it will have a new feature which isnt in this video. The adjustable cog will be a later feature. The chair is rigid framed. Our non electronic version is currently for sale - the Phoenix Pure. We can only ship to the UK, EU, CAN and AUS. US customers can still order but will need to collect from us or one of the territories listed above.
Very good chair
when are they going to come out for the public and how expensive are they going to be? I've been using a wheelchair for nearly 37 years, the last 19 have been tougher after a spinal fusion. ever since then, I can not go up hills forwards unless I am pretty much at top speed, and even then I will sometimes lose strength and have to turn around and finish going up backward. I think that the movement of the center of gravity would help immensely.
The chair is still under development at our HQ. We arent able to disclose price until it is ready for market. We are hoping this will be at some point in 2023. Thank you for your patience and support. We are really excited about this!
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd looks like an awesome chair.
Ik hoop to see your chair in Holland in time
that is somthing a poor man can not have too much cost
How can I get my hand on one I love it
You didn't get yourself and the chair into the car wondering does it break down? I presume the wheels pop off, but how heavy will it be and what would the life of the battery?.
Wouldn't be for me, but there would likely be a market possible new wheelchair users
Are these ready for purchase???? Where can I get one
I need this
Love the centre of gravity. However; I have many questions.
- What's the total weight?
- What are the sizes they come, as everyone isn't the same size in stature?
- Can you remove the wheels or make it smaller for travel?
Thanks,
Sherise
Thanks Sherise! We don't have a final weight yet as this chair is just the prototype but the final chair will be very light. With regards to size the chairs will be built to size. We will reveal more info as we continue to develop the chair and will be sure to keep everyone updated.
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd Thanks! I can’t wait!
@@SheriseDreyer Is nice meeting you here, my name is dralex,what is your beautiful name and where are you from?
Hello
Nice how much that kind of wheelchair sir
So how much is it and where can you buy one?
Excelente ,buena.Yo sufro de discapacidad yo pido un apoyo,gracias bendiciones.
With the wheels moving the obvious thing as an industrial designer that I can see is how can you have brakes? I use simple scissor brakes and you need the wheels in a set location. I’m sure it’s doable but what are you proposing ?
You are right we can't use brakes that press on the tyres. We are using hub brakes so they can move with the wheel.
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd . Thanks but this really does restrict the wheel options , perhaps there could be a linkage that is connected to the axel that In turn is moving the scissor brakes with the axel. It could be an interesting thing to investigate.. .. I have a tilite chair and it really gets a hard life being dismantled 4 to 6 times a day getting in and out of my car. Longevity is critical for chairs as you well know. I’d be very interested to keep in touch to see how things develop. I specialise in medical product and diagnostic equipment, CT and MRI contrast injectors so I have a wide range of industrial design , engineering and electromechanical skill.
@@stevenrolfe1918 I think you will be pleased and surprised when we demonstrate what we have done with brakes. We are not creating a conventional wheelchair, we are making advances that make wheelchairs better at what they do and that includes brakes. Stay tuned.
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd . Do you have any idea about the cost ? I have unfortunately got used to high prices over the years ..
This is amazing! What will the price? I don't think a normal person can afford it. or yes???
Thank you! We don't have a price yet as this chair is still under development but we are aiming for this chair to be the same as other leading brands such as RGK, Panthera and Progeo.
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd Thank you for the answer. what you do is great!!! Perhaps one day it will be possible to buy in the Czech Republic as well
This is insanely good, I would consider it! Though I am not a big fan of the design from a visual perspective. I am sure y'all could work something out with introducing other options to change the shape of some aspects of it and of course color options. :)
Like F1tecnology👍
A wheelchair with a electronic stabilizer would be neat 🤔✌🇺🇸
Good,, I like
What is the cost !
Price plz
Sir mujhe chahiye kaise milegi ye
Price?
Have to say, after 28 years in a chair I really do not see the point. The extra weight outweighs the tiny benefit by a long way. I get its a carbon fibre chair but I'd take those weight savings as is. Add to that the risk of failure leaving the wheels out of alinement even once in 20 years would again outweigh any benefit. Personally, If that was offered it as a free upgrade option on my next chair I would decline. Just my personal view as an active chair user most of my adult life. The added stability may appeal more to newer chair users while they are still have a fear of tipping but is using anti tip wheels for 6 months not a better option?
As a wheelchair user you will appreciate the impact the centre of gravity has on the chair. If you have your CG set to the front you can have a very agile chair but it will be tippy. If you have it set to the back you will have a very stable chair but it will feel heavy. If you have it set to the middle you don't get either great agility or great stability. This smart system gives the chair agility and ease of pushing beyond what would be safe on a conventional wheelchair while also being stable.
What is more important than a smart CG system is advancing wheelchairs beyond the mechanical. Nobody could have imagined how the phone would evolve once it became smart. By embracing smart technology now we can evolve new functions never before possible. Smart CG is just one feature we are working on.
I'm with Stuart on this. 44 years in a chair, and I see this as addressing a problem that isn't really a problem. Yes my chair is very forward CG, agile, and tippy. And thats how I like it all the time. Last thing I want is it changing on me constantly. Also not a fan of the asthetic design. I prefer my chair to attract as little attention as possible, as do most of the chair users I know. We're generally not a fan of out-there designs, and the non-survival of pretty much every asthetically radical designed chair, bares testament to that.
I have been a para for 43 years and I agree with the comment. Simple and light are the way to go if your a para. Might be useful for a low quad. Just get used to falling out and getting back in. How would you wheel stand over a bump when the CG has moved back automatically?
@@MVJB Exactly! The light front end allows for small front wheels to be just skimming the surface most of the time, and that has to be consistently predictable as conditions constantly change, and need to be responded to immediately with predictable result. It only takes a relatively small stone to upset you if the front is heavy. I can understand how some could see merits in this, but I can't see how those people would be active users.
Most insurances in the US wouldn’t cover carbon that would be completely out of pocket. A standard K5 aluminum wheelchair it’s still an excellent option for a light sporty wheelchair
Cost?
What is its cost please 🙏🙏🙏
Nice
Thank you!!
AHHH YES PLEASE 🎉
Hey - adjustable COG was a feature on our protoype chair that won the Toyota Mobility Challenge in 2020. This feature is still in development. We are releasing the Phoenix i Hybrid this year which will feature our new front wheel power assist. Check it out here: czcams.com/video/pDcunPOQrTM/video.html
I have been working with a wheelchair
I am disable person 80% I want this type of wheelchair
Where to buy it from?
this chair is still in development - not ready to buy just yet. Sign up for updates on our progress at phoenixinstinct.com
I love in a rural area so roads are cement, rocks, dirt muddy, grass I would like to try the chair out. But I can imagen it's out of my financial reach
This is our Prototype chair that won the Toyota Mobility Challenge in 2020. Since then we have released the Phoenix i Hybrid with integral front wheel power assist. Adjustable COG is not a feature on this chair but is something we will continue to devleop. More info available on the Phoenix i Hybrid is available on our website: www.phoenixinstinct.com/phoenix-i-wheelchair
How can I get more info.
Register for updates at www.phoenixinstinct.com/phoenix-i-wheelchair
Price
Well done great idea ....but what if it goes wrong ???? ££££££
We have received funding to continue develop this chair. You can follow our journey on our social media channels!
That is cool
Thanks James!
How much
Wooow
dont you think that your chair is too wide, and it doesnt seem that the width can be adjusted.
Chairs will be built to fit the user :)
Have seen all these wonder chairs come and go. With the true cost of this and lack of repair stations, this will go also.
Hi George, our chair is going to be priced similar to other leading brands such as RGK and Panthera. This is more than just about this chair. We hope to see SMART tech available in all wheelchairs. Our mission is to see the wheelchair evolve with current and future technologies.
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd I see no relationship between you and rpg and Panthers. In most cases, those that have insurance, they will pay for basic wheelchairs. I had decent insurance so I got a quickie gpv chair. It was set up properly and I have never felt I needed more. Most of what I call fancy chairs can only be bought by those that have money, lots of it. What most people really need is a good basic chair that fits and works and dont break down easily. I have never once thought I need a chair that constantly changes my center of gravity. Yes, there are all sorts of fancy chairs out there doing all sorts of stuff but again , totally not geared towards most chair users with limited funds. This has always been my knife in the side. In my volunteer work, all i see is the need for decent wheelchairs. By the way, i find attachable power units like you and others have to be extremely useless. The biggest issue is they turn your wheelchair into a big monster. When you get to a small store or whatever, where do you store this thing ? The only power unit i have found to be near perfect is the one sold by spinergy. Its tucked under and does not extend the size of the wheelchair. It is also easily attached and detached. Sadly the cost is just to high like everything else. So my apologies to a point about my views on your wheelchair but center of gravity is just normally not in the discussion except for initial setup. Thanks for listening and i hope you success.
george
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd another thing if I may, what made you decide that this was a primary need ? Did everyone you asked in public say, yes, I need a chair that self adjusts center of gravity ? Did you not hear anything else ? george
@@georgecurtis6463 Thanks for your feedback. This chair is currently still in development - the chair featured is a prototype. The final chair will have more features than the intelligent COG with the capability to add more as technology progresses. We haven't released all the information just yet. We have only just won the funding to bring this chair to market as the winner of the Toyota Mobility Unlimited Challenge so we are now continuing to develop. Keep an eye on our social media for updates.
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd I just noticed something, sort of a lack of armrests. I find my tube armrests necessary and usefull. Might have an option for that. Also noticed that the fender or side wheel protective cover would in my case make it impossible for me to transfer. Might have that removable as required instead of one piece as I see it now. I fully understand it's hard to develop a new item that has been designed to death. So I see you as designing a chair for one kind of user or another. Most likely to design for everyone would put you back from what you are trying to get away from. Also, just as an aside, i hate electronics. 35 years as an auto mechanic and repair shop owner, I have seen the most minor glitch gring a car to an abrupt stop. So your electronics and system for adjusting the wheels will have to be dust, dirt, mud and water proof. Connections and such bullet proof. The circuitry will have to be vibration proof. Solder joints, etc are a land mine waiting to go off. Anyway, wishing you success.
george
And the cost?
This chair is still in development so no price yet! We will update everyone as soon as we have one. You can sign up for updates at www.phoenixinstinct.com
So 👍👍👍
👏👏👏👏👍
thank you!
How much is it?
this chair is still in development so we don't have a final price yet
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd Okay hopefully it’s affordable and available through insurance here in America
@@PREZIDENTKANE you can sign up for updates at phoenix-i-wheelchair.com. We will release more info as soon as we can.
I can see that not working very long if it’s always adjusting.
Help me Sir I'm order well Cher im sapinal cord rs sir
Bruh!
It has one massive disadvantage: the gap between a floor and an elevator floor can vary hugely (from narrow gap to wide gap) , so small front wheels are a no-no. Front wheels must be at least 2x greater than your design has otherwise they can jam and you're stuck.
You see, how he gets over the stone border by lifting up the front wheels? But for gullys it can be a problem.
Many People use small castors all the time without issue. You just lift them over the obstacle.
while is it great step forward, price will always be a factor, fighting the insurance company's and so on, a custom fit chair already can get pricey, practical & cost effective go hand in hand, no more truer than when it comes to disability equipment
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If a normal non powered chair comes in at £4000 how much is your carbon fibre masterpiece?
110,000 pesos mex más impuestos.
who would give this a thumbs down?
swyctbike ?
So what’s so smart about this chair, all you keep talking about is center of gravity, does it do more than one thing.
Hi John this is our prototype chair. Intelligent centre of gravity is just one feature. The chair is still in development and we will release more information once it is ready for market. You can register via our website to be the first to know when we release this information. Thanks
A needed wheelchair is one easier to transfer in and out of ….. I don’t know many who actually use the sliding boards and I understand why but then every transfer is hard on the body when it bumps the tire 😢 then pressure sores . Maybe soon the medical industry will design differently 🙏🏽
what an amazing design its just a shame chairs like this will be out of reach price wise for most people who could use them
Thank you! This chair will be priced similar to other leading brands eg RGK and Panthera.
@@PhoenixInstinctLtd so unfortunately unaffordable to most, I know a good chair is expensive but they will never be provided by the NHS and people like me that's our only option
@@alexscott782 our aim is to bring SMART technology to all manual chairs. As this chair is still in development we can't answer all questions right now but we are doing our best to make this technology available to as many people as possible. Thanks for your support.
Theses are awesome until you look at the price, then all hope is shattered