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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- I wanted to do this video for years. Right now I have the courage, I might delete this later.
Growing up in an abusive, misogynistic and homophobic cult as a sensitive, bisexual woman, there were a lot of things I always felt were wrong. But they were so normalised in the church culture that I thought I was the problem. Now, 8 years after leaving, I am finally breaking the silence about the disturbing practices happening behind the church's walls.
00:00 Intro
00:52 Background information on the cult
01:25 Evangelisation services that spread fear
02:28 Rules that keep you in the church
03:32 Rules that keep you isolated from “the world”
06:51 Rules on appearance, s*xualisation from a young age
08:53 Rules on s*x & dating (purity culture)
09:44 Marriage rules & non-consensual s*x
12:03 Abstinence-only policy, LGBTQ+ issues
12:51 No contraception / forced births
14:16 Child abuse - physical “discipline”
15:16 Sexism & traditional roles for men vs. women
17:18 Justification for the rules
17:55 No privacy, every detail shared with everyone
19:55 Funny rules that show how s*x-obsessed the rule-makers are
21:43 Outro
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The background picture from the Thumbnail is a random church in the Network, not the one I grew up in. I got the picture from here: www.come-on.de...
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In this video, I share my personal experiences growing up in the mostly unknown religious community that can be classified as a cult or sect: The Brüder-Baptistengemeinde in Germany, a German-Russian Baptist church. I’ve wanted to make this video for years but was too scared, since so much of my personal history is connected to this cult and I still have many people I love in there.
Nonetheless, I feel it's important to expose the disturbing truths that happen behind closed doors. From child abuse and marital r*pe to the severe oppression of women and many bizarre and oppressive rules related to purity culture, I lay bare some dark realities of life in this cult.
I do not want to offend anyone’s religious beliefs or speak against Christians or Baptists per se. That is not my intention at all. While I focus on the negative aspects in this video, I admit that the religion also brought many good experiences.
But there were also a lot of negative experiences, connected to the rules that I describe in this video. And just because people willingly follow these rules, it does not make the rules okay: People would follow anything if they were strongly convinced not following it would lead to eternal damnation!!!
Okay, I’ll end my rant here. Please share and comment if you have any similar experiences or if this video resonates with you in any way. (Also, probably no one reads this until the end, but if you have, let me know by commenting this emoji: 🙈)
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Thanks for sharing this. I was also in an invisible cult from age 17 to 27. They are very present in college dorms, appearing like normal christian college groups, but then once you’re “saved” they begin to take over your life and start to control every decision you make. I had to run away with a single bag of my belongings. It was very hard. I still have nightmares 15 years later.
What group is that?
@@sirvaniss if someone has to run away with nothing more as his belongings in a bag it's obvious he won't tell the name because of threat.
ask him person to person and he will tell it to you.
@@sirvaniss sounds like something related to the Shepherding movement
omg that sounds awful, sorry you had to go through that, especially at that age!
@@Gernot66 very fair to ask, since YT is anonymous. And if the person shared that fact as a goal to help ppl, then of course they should share the group name. Otherwise, it’s just another lie for attention.
I grew up Independent Fundamental Baptist in the US, and I can relate to most of this. Thanks so much for posting!!
Sorry you can relate, but hope it helped somehow. Thank you for commenting, take care! ❤️
This legit almost made me cry, This is so disgusting, I almost can't believe this type of stuff actually exist. You are so strong for doing this you amazing and wonderful person, if I had experienced something like that, I don't think I would ever have the courage to speak about it.
Yeah I had soo much anxiety about posting it and expected to get much hate, especially from other Christians that may try to justify this. Now waking up to these beautiful comments almost made me cry! ❤️ I feel like you all are my kind of people - also sensitive enough to find this horrible
@@angelineblue Do you still believe in God and Jesus or what do you believe. I believe in spirituality and don't really see My self as religious any more.?
it's a must to bring it to the surface it's to compare to a traumatized it must come to the light, else you can't rest (in fact it is a trauma as effect of a mass psychosis)
i assume you would act similar each in his manner, since my back and forth converting was before the big bang (web), i haven't this possibility to share my experiences there but from friend to firend which is in the end more important if that is religious sects or conspiracy theories.
in the web we can meet to get inspired or pick up a good argument.
@@MingenProject I would say that I believe that something bigger exists and I do pray to Jesus, but yes I no longer see myself as religious, more so spiritual
OP, seriously, you need to toughen up. People like you are not someone I'd find worthy of protecting children. You'd crumble with ease, sheesh.
Please don’t delete this video ❤️. I find you so strong and courageous for speaking your/the truth like this, people need to be made aware of cults and their negativity/destruction and you’re doing an excellent job!
Thank you so much for your encouragement! 🩷 It definitely takes a lot of courage for me, but you are right it is very important to raise awareness so I’ll do my best to not listen to my fears. All these encouraging comments definitely help a lot, hearing that so many people resonate with it definitely makes it worthwhile!!!
@@angelineblueYou have done so much speaking out about this 💜
I grew up in a very traditional Baptist community in the US as a child. Went to Baptist school, chapel, Wednesday services, 2-3 services on Sundays etc. We had most of these same rules or something similar so I can relate to what you are talking about! I'm 20 years out and it does get better though it isn't easy. Please take care. ❤
That sounds hard, especially if you had the same programming from school! Yeah I totally understand, it takes a lot of time to mentally recover from that… Thanks for your encouragement, sending love! 💕
What kind of Baptist? I go to a Southern Baptist church where we have a morning Sunday service, no evening Sunday service, a Wednesday evening class that not many people attend, and most of our kids and teens go to public schools. Church is not meant to dominate our lives.
Yeah, my mom went to a Baptist Church for a while. She would let me help her take care of the babies in the nursery. The preacher told me that my tongue piercing wasn't very Christian. I never went there again. I'm Catholic anyway, so I did not really worry myself too much. Then he got 2 married women from his congregation pregnant behind his wife's back, which is obviously sooo Christian... 😳
@@Meggzilla Typical, the ones who are the loudest critics do the must f*d up stuff themselves haha
@@angelineblue You are definitely speaking big facts ma'am. I am really liking your content... Keep it up!!
I couldn't find anything online about this church/cult, which makes your future videos all the more important.
Hope you're safe and happy now and I can't wait to learn more.
Thank you so much for your kindness and encouragement! Yeah I couldn’t find much either, because all of it takes place offline I guess there is just no real information available.
I met a girl in my country who escaped this cult 15+ years ago and got adopted by a British family. She told us about being locked in a cupboard and fed gruel (oats and water) for minor things like forgetting to make her bed or tuck in her clothes. I imagine there was worse she didn’t tell us
what that sounds horrible!
I don’t like this side diss towards gruel, manna from the heavens and the backbone of a healthy breakfast 🫶
@@RipleysReasons she was given a very lengthy “Christian” name but she went by a shortened version of it, she ended up not being a very nice person to hang out with but I believe she was telling the truth
go girliepop! I'm strapped in about to watch this but I just want to say right off the bat: I'm glad you got out. I'm glad you're here today, and I'm really grateful that you are sharing your story. Only with people like you being strong can we hope to understand and help those in cults and those leaving cults.
Haha thank you🥰 Really appreciate your kind words, enjoy watching!
girliepop is such an insulting and infantilizing way to address a grown woman speaking on the abuse she endured. maybe have a little more respect?
@@foxbuns Thanks but I honestly don’t mind at all!
@@angelineblue its not just for you but in behalf of everyone. adults shouldn't be infantalized, when we can show each other respect.
@@foxbunsIt's just slang, it's not that deep 😅
Ich habe großen Respekt, dass du deine Geschichte teilst. Ich habe tatsächlich mal von dem Kult gehört, da laut Gerüchten ein entfernter Bekannter Mitglied ist und ich bin schockiert.
Deine Aufklärungsarbeit ist so wichtig. Ich wünsche dir noch viel Kraft auf deinem weiteren Weg
Vielen vielen Dank für deinen Support und die aufbauenden Worte, das bedeutet mir echt viel! 🩷
@@angelineblue gesundheit (du hattest grad geniesst), 👍 es ist gut und wichtig dass man sowas teilt, du siehst ja das echo hier.
@@Gernot66 Danke!😅 JAAA hätte ich wirklich gar nicht erwartet dass es soo viele gibt die das interessiert!
My favorite part was the forbidden pieces of bread “laying on top of each other”. Thank you for the video and glad you are out of this disgusting religion / cult.
Cant have the bread getting it on. Obviously! 😂
The fact that the elders of that church would even think of something like that shows how much their minds are in the gutter.
Haha I already thought nobody besides me found that funny! It is a traditional Russian-German dish, so even weirder to forbid it in a community that values tradition so much😅
really horrible hearing about the married women who lose their love for life after being forced into marriage :/ im so glad you’re out
Yeah :/ Me too!
Thank you for sharing your story! @CultstoConsciousness I would love to see you dive into this organization!
Ooooh I love @CultstoConsciousness, thank you for tagging them! :)
Agree! Please have her on shelise! @cultstoconsciousness
I had the same thought
Ditto.
I’m glad I read the comments as I was struggling to find a mindful way to mention @CultstoConsciousness. The more awareness we can bring to cults especially ones that go undetected the better. Hope to hear your story one day!
I was raised with in ILBP and hearing someone else say everything I'm feeling is so eye opening. Thank you for sharing your story. Our church was also similar about the beatings, so I do understand your pain.
I am so glad it resonated so deeply with you and that I could put into words how you are feeling about these things! I am really really sorry you also went through that. Hope you are doing better and are healing from that now, sending much love! 🩷 🩷 🩷
Thank you for talking about this, You are very strong for doing this and for leaving, it takes so much strength, You are truly amazing
really appreciate your presenting this detailed overview in English! sounds like a really tough way to grow up-so glad for you that you were able to get out and become the brave, intelligent adult you are today.
Thank you so much for your comment, I really appreciate it!
“The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt,” is the TV show you mentioned, I believe. 🙂
This is absolutely horrible, I’m so glad that you left it. I believe it must’ve been very difficult. I really liked your video and I hope you’ll make more videos on this topic, it was really interesting! Hope you’re doing much better now.
Thank you for your compassion. You're right, it was very difficult. Reading your comment is incredibly encouraging! I'm currently planning a video about my journey of getting out. It's been 8 years since I left, and while deconstructing everything that happened takes time, I'm doing so much better now. Thank you for your support! 💕
This does not sounds easy at all and I am so sorry you went through what you did. But thank you very very much for sharing. I left a very strict religion at 18 as well and lost just about everything. You are incredibly strong and brave. Keep doing good💕
Thank you so much for your kind words and for sharing. I am really sorry to hear that you had to go through such a difficult experience as well. And it sounds awful that you lost almost everything in the process. Although this is a sad topic to connect over, I am really happy to connect with someone who understands what it’s like and who also had to courage to break out of it despite losing everything. It really feels like I’ve found my people ❤ Sending you much love!
wow this is really horrid, im so sorry you had to go through that. you’re glowing now 🫶 very interesting video, thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much for your empathy! ❤️
I was in a cult that was almost exactly like this here in the U.S. I don't know if I will ever fully heal but I am trying. I appreciate you sharing your story. It was very helpful. I am just sorry you went through that.
Thank you for sharing, I am so sorry to hear that. Healing is not a linear journey, and that does not mean you won’t be okay again. You are not alone in this ❤️ Sending you strength and hope!
I grew up in North America and am living in Italy for some time now, the few evangelical/fundamentalist Christian things I’ve seen here are usually foreigner Mormons and Jehovah’s witnesses sent on missions. Even speaking with French/Italian/German friends they haven’t had nearly as much interaction with these groups as one does in the states, aside from some very tragic news stories. It’s very interesting to hear the expectations of it, and how close it is to a lot of evangelical cults in NA.
I myself wasn’t raised in evangelism directly, as my parents had some conflicts over religion. Luckily I escaped some of the more serious mental strain of it, but it’s still has some serious impacts on mine and my sister’s lives. I can’t imagine how difficult that is to be fully immersed in such a group and limited from interaction with the "outside world". From what I know about German schooling, it’s probably beneficial that homeschooling isn’t as easily accepted, hopefully some people have been able to make it out or question things bc of that required connection to the world.
I hope you’ve been able to find community and safe people outside of that environment ❤
Yeah when I went to the states for a year I also encountered way more people who were openly Evangelicals / Fundamentalists and some aspects were quite similar to how I grew up. I feel like in Germany it is more of an underground / niche thing - you will only know if you or people you love go there.
I am sorry you were also negatively impacted by it, it is always hard to deconstruct this kind of programming, even when you are not extremely sheltered. Yes luckily, homeschooling is not allowed in Germany. My former church wants to build a private school for their children but I am not sure what the chances are of them legally doing so.
Thank you for your kind words!❤ I definitely have my safe people, and feel like you guys on YT are becoming a sort of community🥰
i'm so sorry that you went through all that :(( thank you for sharing your story! sending love
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! It means a lot to me.
Thank you for sharing. It must be trally hard. I think you are a wonderful person. Thanks for being here.
Thank you for your comment, I truly appreciate it!
Not sure if you've already posted a video about this, but I'd love to hear your coming out story! I'm a bisexual guy, and coming out stories depending on different circumstances always intrigue me! Awesome video and you're such a strong individual for making it out of this cult
Thank you, your comment means a lot to me ❤️ I did not, I will talk a bit about it in my next video (currently editing it)!
I’m glad you got out. I grew up Roman Catholic and went to Catholic school. We were taught by nuns and priests. They told the girls that they needed to either be nuns or wives and that we didn’t need to go to college. We wore long uniform skirts that had to come to the knees or longer and they would make us kneel to check. No make up of fancy hairstyles. Abstinence only and no sex education. The biggest difference from your situation we were allowed to watch, movies, radio, basically the worldly things. Being raised as I was made me not believe in religion at all.
Thank you for sharing your experience. It's wild how different teachings can still be so similar, especially when it comes to controlling women’s choices. I'm glad you found your own path. Take care! 🙏🌱
"Wer nichts weiß, muss alles glauben". Funktioniert schon lange gut und zuverlässig, egal, ob in Religionen, Politik oder sonst wo. Sowohl im Alltag, als auch in der weiten Welt des Internets.
Sehr informatives Video. Mach bitte weiterhin so guten Content. (auch gerne mit deiner Musik. ;-) )
Alles Gute für die Zukunft!
Total! Vielen Dank, es freut mich, dass dir das Video gefallen hat und du auch an Musikcovern interessiert bist, gut zu wissen! Danke, dir auch! ✨
Thank you very much for sharing this! The topic of cults always feels a bit far away, the cults you usually hear about are the big ones in America but I feel like the smaller, coumunal ones kind of gets lost sometimes. It’s a strange and frightening thought that, yes, cults can be everywhere!
Interestingly, the word 'cult' and 'culture' are both essentially Latin and derive from 'colere' (to cultivate).
I think it's important to understand that the use of the word has evolved over time. In the 19th century it gained the modern sense of "excessive devotion" and later came to carry additional notions of violence and brainwashing.
The word originally meant 'care, cultivation or worship' and could refer to the shared religious practices of a group, especially one focused on venerating a particular deity, person, or object.
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So you could LABEL any religion or church as a "cult".
But in the western world we usually mean an insular group of people with strange, extreme, or even dangerous/unhealthy religious practices.
And ones that forbid their members from even casual association with people who do not share their beliefs are generally viewed with suspicion and distrust.
I found myself in hands of Scientologist. I had to run when I questioned them. I just went to the doctor and ended up there. Yikes! Now I live in Bible belt. Baptist church on every corner. Churches/ cults with lots of money. No thanks to any religion groups for me. I never fit into any political group or religious. Even the yoga, spiritual world can be culty! Glad you got out! Thank you for sharing your story
In case no one has suggested, I think the movie you are talking about is The Village. Absolutely fantastic film.
Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt? It was a series.
The Village was also great 🙂
This was an interesting video. Please make a video about your life in the church, leaving and your coming out story.
Thanks for your comment, I am working on one!
Wow I can’t even imagine! I’m so glad you got out in time, although it’s heartbreaking for those who didn’t. I would love to learn more about your experience escaping form it and if you are still friends with anyone still involved
Thank you for your comment, you’re so right! Taking notes for my storytime video :)
I'm an American who used to live part-time in the northeast of Germany, and I heard about this cult when I lived there. I'm so glad you escaped. Don't blame yourself for not rescuing others, it's amazing you even managed to save yourself. Talking about your experience is so brave, thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much for sharing! Please make another video and tell us more!
Thanks for your comment! :) I will upload one soon, once I have the time!
Thanks for sharing your story and for taking the courage to talk out about it! 🙈
I am so sorry, that you had go through this. You are so brave talking about it ❤
You are amazing for getting out and for sharing this and speaking out. thank you
Thank you so much! Take care ✨
I was raised in a cult too. I haven't heard about this one, but I do hear YOU. I'm so happy you saw the light, friend ❤
So glad we're both on the other side now. Take care, friend! ✨
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Thank you ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
gut, dass Du es da rausgeschafft hast! Glückwunsch zu der Willensstärke!
Danke!!! ❤️
Amazing story! I joined a cult when I was right out of highschool. They didn't have anywhere near the control over me. Similar rules except there were a lot of outsiders. But this is where they were heading. They were trying to replace all social functions with stuff inside the church. Luckily they never managed to make a school. Glad you're out.
Ooof that sounds tough! I am happy you got out of there before it got worse. My former church is actually currently trying to make a private school as well 🙈
Thank you for making this video and sharing your experiences! I am German myself and had never heard of this cult, so thank you for making me aware of it!
Thank you for your comment!🧡 Yes I think most people would only know this cult if they had people they know in it…
Great video you did such a good job sharing. Very clear and concise thank you for doing this.
Thank you very much for your comment, I appreciate it!
Angeline, your video left me truly moved! Thank you SO much for your courage in sharing your story - it's unimaginable what you went through. It must have taken an incredible amount of strength to speak out about such personal and painful experiences. Your honesty and bravery are truly inspiring, and I'm sure your words will resonate with many who have faced similar struggles. It's evident that your intention is not to condemn faith or religion but rather to shine a light on the harmful practices that need to be addressed and that have affected so many lives. By speaking out, you are a voice for those who can't yet speak for themselves. You’re shedding light on issues that absolutely deserve attention. I felt your story deeply in my heart, and it’s clear I'm not alone - just see how many heartfelt replies you've gotten! You are making a difference in ways you might not even realize. Sending you all my sincere love and support, and know that you are never alone! Keep using your voice to bring light to the world - in your own beautiful way. And keep being the amazing person you are! ♥💞💓
Thank you so much for your comment! Exactly, you get it! It’s not about condemning a specific faith itself but about addressing what is harming people. Thank you for your continuous encouragement, you have no idea how much it means to me! 💖
Thanks for sharing this information! As an Exjw, I'm very interested in learning about other cults.
You are very brave for talking about this! Thank you! 😍😍
Thank you for being here! ❤️ Haha yeah I am super scared to do this but felt it was the right thing to do since no one else is talking about it
Please talk why/ how you got out of that church and how your parents reacted to you coming out. Good work! Thanks
Thank you for your comment, appreciate it! Yes I am on it, will record the video of how I got out of it soon!
@@angelineblueThank you, Angeline!! Take care of yourself!
Thank you for making this video. Bringing awareness to this issue is very important. I’m glad you got out and hope you have a very happy life.
There's a lot of Ukrainians/Russians in this type of churches in Sacramento, California. I went to a Saturday school where it was basically normal school but in Ukrainian and it was taught by people in a similar cult. I was pressured every week to join them - got treated bad by teacher for being sinful (having pierced ears, wearing black and wearing pants, watching TV and stuff like that). I'm sorry you went through something like this, I can only imagine how difficult it is, it's hard enough being surrounded by these types of people when you aren't in it. But every point you made, I can relate to seeing. Hope you're doing better now
This is absolutely wild, I'm so happy you got out of there and grateful that you've been brave enough to share this! I have SO many questions... How did you manage to leave? Do you have any family or friends that managed to leave? Are you still in contact with anyone remaining? How did you come to the realisation that you needed to leave and your sexuality and how did that go down?! Are you safe and doing well? I really hope so! I could keep going! 😅 Of course I don't expect you to actually answer any of them but if you make a follow up video I AM READY!
P.S you're a badass, clearly highly intelligent and articulate and exactly the kind of boss bitch us gals and gays need to be making some NOISE! 🙌
Wow your comment really got to me! 😭❤️ Thank you so so much for your support. It really means more than you can imagine! I am mostly doing well nowadays. And I will upload a video soon where I answer most of these questions :)
@@angelineblue Aww you're so welcome, it's a privilege though 🥰 I'm glad to hear that, if you ever need to talk I'm here 😊 ooh I'll be looking forward to your next video then! Sending strength and love 🥰
You’re brave to tell your story and expose this damaging group. It’s wonderful that you’re taking care of yourself now ❤
Yeah it definitely took all my courage, but I feel it’s only right to do it. Thank you for your kind comment, sending love! 🩷 🩷
Thank you for sharing this. I’ve been struggling with the idea of sharing my story also having grown up in a cult, but you have really inspired me to finally be honest too ❤
Yayyyy I am so happy to be an inspiration in this way! Wishing you much strength, and take care of yourself ❤️
I'm really really sorry on what youve been through, honestly i got out of the LDS church with my mom when i turned 17 out of high school... And i suppose i didnt regret it because i had some fake friends, i have a sister in law as well who used to be in the FLDS church but escaped when shes 18 and now shes viral (brielle decker is her name.. Shes married to my brother but yeah theyre having a baby) you can look her up if anyone wants to hear abt her story- however.. The cult youve been through though? It sounds very horrible and damn, im.. Proud that youve been informing on here on youtube.. Also take your time however to heal 🥺🥺 it must be hard to talk about it.. And im sorry about all this. Whoever is the founder the church-concept... Theyre horrible people who made these rules 😣😣 im glad you left the church and all, take your time however if you want to share your stories.. With care, greetings from las vegas-
Thank you so much for your kind words 🩷 I am really sorry to hear about what you must have been through and I am glad you and your family found your way out. Thanks for the recommendation, I just watched her TED talk, I know the Netflix documentary on the FLDS church and seeing she was one of the wives of Warren Jeffs? That is insane. Really admiring how much strength she has to go public with her story, what she went through is really horrifying! Him sending people to abuse her with the goal of taking her legal rights away? So crazy how much abuse people can justify in the name of religion 🥺 but truly inspiring how she turned Warren Jeff’s mansion into a safe house for women and children!
Thank you so much for your compassion, you are right that it’s not easy to speak up since there is still so much anxiety, shame and guilt programming when talking badly about them. But knowing it might help others makes it worthwhile. Sending you warm greetings from the South of France!💕
Thank you for your courage in sharing something new and different yet so tragically familiar.
I dont know if I'am strong enough to watch this video, but just the fact that you escaped a cult...I want to tell you, you are an earth angel sharing information to others to educate them...I know you are strong...bless you, wish you all the best in your life
Thank you. I totally get it, it’s good that you are watching out for yourself. Sometimes it is best to not watch something that might trigger you. Thank you for being here and leaving your comment, and sending you much love and all the best! 💕
Thank you for bravely sharing this story with all of us ! God bless you in your recovery journey
Thank you very much! :)
Wow I'm sorry you were subjected to this, and I'm glad you are out of there. Thank you for speaking up. I hope others can get away from such a nightmare
Thank you so much for your kind words and empathy! 🩷 Yeah I hope so too, sadly you never know you’re in a cult until you’re out.
I'm happy that you're out of it and share if for more awareness ❤
If you do make more videos I am interested to hear how you left/feel about leaving? And if you have supports and feel safe of course. I was never in a cult but I was groomed and I feel so guilty still for never reporting it or coming forward until it was too late because I know the person who gr00med me probably had more victims but at the same time we are also victims (you in the cult and I from this person).
I know as well that its almost impossible for cults to exist without eventually turning the victims into the persecutors (the group harassment and fear I guess that was indoctrinated.)
Also, I'm very proud of you for being here and discussing this topic even though its very heavy. Please always take care of yourself and put your well being first 💜
Thank you for your kind words and for sharing your story. I am so sorry to hear about what you went through. It’s important to remember that the guilt you feel is part of the trauma, and you did the best you could in a very difficult situation.
And yes, I can definitely share more about how I left and my feelings around that. Knowing that there are people like you who are interested in these stories and can relate in different ways really encourages me.
You’re absolutely right about how those experiences can turn victims into perpetrators through the indoctrination and normalisation of abuse. It really sucks that it feels like a neverending cycle.
Thank you for being here. And please take care of yourself too! Sending all the best 💕
You're so brave & beautiful ❤ Be proud of your courage, as it takes a lot to come forward like this xxxx
Hatte noch nie von diesen Baptisten gehört, vielen Dank für deine Aufklärungsarbeit! Es tut mir leid, dass du so aufwachsen musstest.
Ja ich glaub die sind einfach nicht sehr bekannt, es sei denn du kennst Mitglieder durch Arbeit oder Schule etc. Danke für die lieben Worte! ❤️
Just chiming in with another: It is so good that you have made this video. This is the only way people like me, who have not been near fundamentalist religion, cults or sects gets any awareness about it. Indeed because like you state, these communities normally close themselves to the rest of society either completely or partially. So unless something really extreme happens, us from the outside has almost no way of knowing the very real abuse that goes on.
Oh yes and very brave of you. And very good to hear that you are seemingly well on your way to building a more shall we say balanced life.
Thank you for your kind comment ❤️ Yes that is my goal, to create some awareness! Because how would anyone know if the cult members themselves don’t talk about it and ex-members are too scared to do so?
So happy you broke free. By the way, I love your scarf!
I was raised in a very similar manner. I'm happy we're free from the toxic environment these religion's create. ❤
I’m so happy for us, too! ❤️
thank you for sharing this, such bravery 🙈
thank you for being here!💙
Thank you for sharing this traumatic story I hope you are doing better and are able to heal from this❤❤
Thank you so much for your compassion, it truly means a lot! ❤️ ❤️
Thank you for your courage. I was raised in a cult and spent the first 23 years of my life in it before I escaped. Fundamentalist Christianity has MANY cults. The importance of being able to think for myself is indescribable.
Thank you for your comment, so glad you got out as well ❤️ Yeah so true! I believe most people don’t know about all those small cults unless they have been in contact with them. And yes, thinking for yourself is so valuable and important, especially after being told you should not do it !
How is this allowed in Germany... I'm so glad you got out. Thanks for being brave.
Thank you for your kind words! ❤️
Wouw, I am so sorry this happend to. Absolulty disgusting they you and other teens where treated like that, shame on the people who would even think about a young girl in such a way. Really hope you're doing better and I would be interested in your personal stories.❤❤❤
(Also: I absolutly love your outfit it is so pretty and fun)
Thank you so much for your kind words and support! 💖 It was a tough experience, but sharing actually helps, especially because of kind comments like yours. I'm definitely doing a lot better now. I'll share a story video soon!
And thank you so much for the compliment! ☺️
❤❤❤You ARE so brave. SO STRONG...❤❤❤ My sister was destroyed mentally by a cult like this. She died thinking she was a sinner. One day, I will find a way to expose them. They are worldwide and hide behind the manipulation of the Christian Religion.
omg I am so so sorry, that is horrible! Wishing you much strength, and take care ❤️
Proud of you for sharing your story and spreading awareness
Thank you!
I grew up on the States and was raised Southern Baptist and they were the same way. No playing cards, no music, no dancing. I was **ped and was told it was my fault. It was very traumatic.
Omg I am deeply sorry to hear that! It is horrific and I could cry reading this, but it is not surprising. Purity culture is very close to r*pe culture because it gives all responsibility to the victims instead of the perpetrators. I hope you can heal from that and know that none of this was ever your fault in any way!!! Sending much love❤
I'm so sorry you had to go through this. Cults are bad for everyone but it's scary how so many are particularly awful and evil to women. The idea of having sex with someone without being allowed to experiment, taking things slow or even education is absolutely horrifying.
I'm glad you got out and think you're really strong for leaving and making a video about it. I hope you are happy, have a good support network and always feel proud of who you are
Thank you so much for your kind comment, it really means a lot reading this! ❤️ Yeah so many cults make it a point to take all power away from the women. Exactly, it feels so reassuring that other people find this horrifying too and it’s not just me!
Thank you, I do have a good support system and I’ll try to be more proud of myself, thanks :) Sending you much love!
I hadn't heard about this either, it really seems like a horrible culture to live in
But now it makes sense why people asked if I was in a cult when I told them I was in a baptist church, because it is a similar name
Anyone else just been putting this on in the background on loop just to increase watch time in hopes it gets recommended to more people, to give it the recognition it deserves and to spread awareness
No, just me
Oh my gosh you are soo cute, thank you!!! ❤️ I am still a beginner at making videos but I tried my best making it as informative and enjoyable to watch, because I feel like if I make such a video that I am very anxious about making, I might as well make it count and have it reach many people. So I really appreciate your support :)
You're definitely not alone! Your effort matters and can really make a difference in helping it reach more people. I’ve been doing the same thing because I believe this content truly deserves much more recognition!
@@Patrick__R Thank you so much! It definitely helps a lot, YT seems to keep recommending it to people :)
I just looked down back at the comments despite putting this on in the background every day, on a separate tab, and so hi
@@cookiecrunch8762 Wow thank you! I would have never thought this video would go viral like this, as you can see y’all have really done a lot! 😄 Thank you so so much for the support🧡
Vielen dank für das teilen deiner geschichte ❤ das braucht viel mut! Du bist eine sehr intelligente und wunderschöne frau, ich wünsche dir von herzen, dass du heilen kannst! ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for speaking out. I would be very interested in hearing about how/why you left and what your experience was acclimating to a new lifestyle/new ways of thinking after you left.
Thank you for your comment! I am currently working on a video of how I got out. But I was already thinking to do one after that where I could dive deeper into the deconstruction process after leaving and how my ways of thinking etc changed - was not sure yet if anyone would be interested in that, so thanks for your input! :)
Thank you for sharing your experiences with the cult. It's interesting to know this cult is essentially just like the Southern Baptist church, but maybe a tiny little bit more restrictive. Like the 1960s version of the Baptists.
Thank you for sharing. I am very sorry you had to go through all this, and so happy for you being able to leave! If youd like it would be very interesting to hear more about all of your story. Maybe the channel Vults to Consciousness is of interest for you ^-^
Thank you for your kind comment! ❤️ I am planning to share more soon, and yes I love that channel!
I am very proud of you. It must have been difficult to go from song covers to your first survivor video.
Thank you! Wasn’t easy that’s for sure!
Unbreakable kimmy Schmidt is the best show! I was never in a cult, but I did suffer from ptsd and that show helped me immensely! Thanks for sharing your story!
Thank you for your comment ❤️ I'm really sorry to hear that you suffered from PTSD, and I'm glad that the show helped, it is really the best! It's really amazing how shows can provide so much comfort. Take care!
A lot of what you said in the first 44 seconds is where America is headed if we don’t stop the RW Extremists.
Yeah what is happening atm in the US is really scary, i agree!
I do not understand why you have brought politics into this. Do I agree that we as U.S. citizens need to separate church and state, yes. A lot of RWs have forgotten this.. YET, the LW Ignores the Constitution as well. For example, Harris is not eligible to run for president. Look up the 14th Amendment. I am not left or right. I just believe in Freedom. I do not like labels or bullies...The last four years under the LW has destroyed the true concept of the American Dream and has created little labeled boxes they like to categorize and put people they have no idea about into. Before you start thinking I am some kind of religious extremist, I am far from it. I am agnostic. I do not care for or like religions. 😊 I am not trying to be offensive. This is just me voicing my question and opinion. My sister died because of a cult's brainwashing.
Please tell more of your story. You have a lot to say and a very interesting point of view and intersectional thinking.
I can tell you are very nervous talking about all of this. But, more importantly, you are understandably shaking with rage at some points. And i think that's great! If you have been raised to obey it can be really hard to feel anger. I know that. It feels very similar to anxiety sometimes. But it is anger and that means progress ❤
By the way the show you were talking about in the beginning is "Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt". Just in case you want to rewatch it. I loved that show :)
Thank you very much for your comment, I really appreciate it! ❤️ Yeah you’re right, I was super nervous talking about this and the rage is absolutely there as well. You seem good at reading people 😅 Or maybe you can relate. I agree with you, I also think that anger can be helpful when breaking out of oppressive systems.
i was taken into a cult as a child and spent my life as a personal slave for over 45 years
omg I am so sorry to hear that! Hope you are healing from that and doing better now
I was in a cult like this. I managed to escape when I was 18
Glad that you got out too! Love your user name btw :)
Hi there Angeline! You’re an angel🫶🏽Please avoid the beep sound to censor your words, it’s very jarring for the listener. Please try to just mute the word.
I like your style and your input on this cult/religious issue. Please keep making videos! Sound quality is really important for YT views.
You look great on camera ‼️Good luck 🍀👍🏽
Hiii! Thank you very much for your sweet words and the feedback, I appreciate it :)
Please try not to be sad or affraid, if the stupid church find out youve made this video its about time they pull their heads out of their butts and and face their arrogance, abuse and deceit.
You are amazing and i wish you the very best in life, love happiness, creativity, health, peace, joy and all that is good.
Thank you so so much for the encouragement! Wishing you all the best too🧡🧡
Ich habe einige Verwandte in dieser Sekte und ehemalige Klassenkameraden. Ich bin so dankbar dafür, dass meine Eltern sich nie dazu überreden lassen haben da mit zu gehen als wir noch Kinder waren. Gerade die Kindererziehung macht mir bei den richtig Angst.
Oh ja dann kennst du das ja! Gut dass dir das erspart geblieben ist :)
I grew up in a very strict Church of Christ in the US Bible belt. You are brave for speaking your truth and I am so grateful that you are showing others like you how to escape. ❤
Thank you for your kind comment, it means a lot truly! ❤️ Sorry to hear you had a similar experience growing up, but seems like you got out as well!
@@angelineblue still in my little town, but no longer under the oppressive thumb of my mom's religion. ❤
@@MamaWheelz Nice, I am very glad to hear that! ❤
I escaped one too. Thank you; Your video helped me when I was in denial of my abuse.
Sorry to hear that you had to go through the same, but glad to hear that this helped! Sending love❤
On a side note, your English is so perfect and beautiful...
Thank you so much! I feel like my German accent is strong so hearing that means a lot haha
@@angelineblueI have no idea English is not your first language ( I saw you other video before it). I only realized in that video 1.because I see you thinking on the words (same as I saw on myself, just my English is not that good). 2. And you mentioned German things.
But I totally did not heard German accent. But also if you have, it is not a bad thing to have an accent.
I'm so glad for you to be able to get out, everything you told is bizarre and horrible. I would really like to hear you talk more about your experiences, it's so brave what you did coming out talking about this. I've never heard of it before
Thank you! Honestly, it feels really good to have it reaffirmed from an outside perspective that this is really weird and horrible, because my whole life growing up this was “normal”. I’m planning to share more about my story soon!
@@angelineblue I'm a psychologist and this experience you had growing up is absolutely not healthy for anyone, even the perpetrators (but those get lost on the line of who started what, right? And, to the victims, I'm not going to ignore the fact that who the hell cares about what happened to them, after what they have done). I hope you are healthy, happy and healing, living whatever life you wish
You are so brave.❤
Thank you! Tbh I am really scared, just not letting my fears dictate what I do :)
@@angelineblue I understand more than you know. I hope you are getting all the hope you need! ❤️
I am very sorry that you had to grow up in that cult. I am very happy that you escaped.
Thank you for your compassion, I am so glad too!
Thank you, Angeline. 💖
Thank you for being here💕
thank you for sharing you are very brave!!!
Thank you ❤️ I try
You should go onto Cults to Consciousness!
This is a great video, you should keep making them
Thank you! :)
So brave of you to speak out on this cult, especially as there are few or any other ex-members helping expose them. I'm an ex-cult member myself (a quite different one being a pseudo-Hindu meditation sect). Do get yourself involved with other ex-members of cults (not necessarily the one one you were involved in), as they will help protect you from counter-criticism and angry reaction from the cult and help you see that you were very much not alone in your experiences. As you outlined the church's practices, I saw little original in their doctrines - they are a sect that 'syncretises (takes bits of teachings from other cults and sects to put out as their own brand). Cults often borrow from each other. I would like to have seen more on how you grew disillusioned enough to break free. Many get out of cults only when outsiders help them break out - getting away by yourself (or possibly with other disillusioned members) is a rarer thing and especially for a second generation member like yourself (someone raised from infancy or birth in the cult rather than someone recruited and brainwashed in later in life (first generation recruits). I hope your work here encourages others in this and other cults to speak out and break free too.
Thank you so much for your insightful comment, it is really interesting to read about your experience. So interesting how there are always parallels.
I am following some religious deconstruction accounts on Instagram, but that is about all the involvement with other ex-cult members I have. Do you have any recommendations?
I actually got out myself without any outside influence, I will upload a video on the story of me getting out soon!
Thanks for your encouragement! I hope so too
We have the same here in the states. The LDS (Later Day "Saints" ) lol . Same motives. One of many tax exempt cults we have here.
Good on ya! Well done Miss! 😊 ❤