Installed a Juggernaut tuner kit / Is it faster?
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2023
- Installed a Juggernaut tuner kit / Is it faster?
Installed a Stage 1 tuner kit from GoPowerSports in the Juggernaut driver on the Predator 212 powered Coleman CT200U-EX minibike to see if the bike would gain any performance with the added launch RPM the Juggernaut tuner kit adds. Tested the bike from zero to thirty and top speed.
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@black66 thank you. Number one man. I am thinking about getting a mini bike
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Might be to much to ask but it's a idea for another video. Put a tach on bike and jugger back to stock form. See what rpm the tuner kit vs stock engagement actually is. Great content 👌
212 stroke is 2.165"
212 rod length is 3.308"
3.308 divide by 2.165 = 1.52
A 1.52 is a stump puller motor number. School buses and dump trucks are built with 1.52 motors (Chevy 400). If you want a motor with long legs try a longer rod. Salt flat cars run over 2.0 motors, if you can build it, try a 1.75 motor. You will loose bottom end but find it all up top.
Awesome channel, you do some fantastic work. Thank you.
Henry Ford over here....
@@TheShowgunofHarlem you guys are running a short motor with tall gears, out on the lakebed they run they run tall motors with tall gears. Too many mph's for the city but thats how its done.
@@user-er9co2lt8i uhhhhhh.....
@@user-er9co2lt8i its a torque converter, it changes the gearing ratio
Interesting work. The faster launch isn’t had to figure out, but the higher top speed is likely due to a lower final drive ratio allowing the engine to pull higher rpms. Just a note that a higher engagement rpms are great for launches/racing, but makes the bike less drivable at low speeds such as when you are picking your way through offroad obstacles. So be sure of what you (the viewer) want before spending your money. High stall rpms are hard on belts, too. Be sure your belt is tight, as a loose belt effectively raises engagement rpms; however, at a higher ratio. The belts usually don’t stretch after break in, but become thinner, allowing them to sit deep in the pulleys and loosen. I slotted the mounting bolt holes in my TAV back plate so I could adjust belt tension. CVT tuning can really keep you thinking! Good fun!
You threw this video out quick. I didnt know these tuner kits were out already. I had messaged them a couple months about them asking when they were going to be on the site. Glad to see it was a difference I will for sure be ordering one up for my bike. Thanks for the video!
Nice how it gets right into the power band, usually it sounds like it bogs until it revs up.
Who knew that just installing a Juggernaut would make a difference! Thanks for the great video. :)
WOW very cool I'm also interested in the other kits!!✌️💚✊️🔥
I ordered one for my kart and was curious about the gain! Thanks man! 🤘🏽
Great video. Thanks I was thinking about that kit already. Have to do it now.
Love the juggernauts. I'm definitely gonna be adding at least a stage 1 or 2 in both of mine. Wonder if they would fit the torkzilla. I have one of those also.
I was wondering the same thing. I prefer my Zilla over jugg though. Ill try it out when it come in.
@jasonstrapponi3540 let me know if it works! Thanks
Living his best life. I love this
I love you how you just test everything
Thanks! This is sweet!, i didnt even know they made these kits👍
Bro keep it up I have a 100ccx Colman and learned alot from you thanks for it all old friend
Nice improvement just with the stage 1 kit. I'm guessing you already have stage 2,3 & 4 on hand or ordered already😜
Good install boss I'm gonna try one of those someday 💯💪🏼
Have you seen the new Coleman mini bikes they are making? They just released a video of what looks to be a new bike with a base version and an upgraded version with rear suspension and front brakes depending on when they release it will be my first mini bike.
Where did you see that?
You keep making the TC seem better and better!!! Ima need this for my cruiser soon🦾🤘🏼
Another great video and I will continue to support
Nice, I am going to looking into this on my cyclekart
you should do a video on a bsp-4 camshaft versus a stock cam. also if heavier springs do anything with the bsp-4 cheater cam.
So if it engages at around 3k what rpm do you keep your idle set at? Great video by the way.
I feel like it might be annoying but I guess you could 😂
Another great video 👍🏻thanks
Have u ever had issues with the chain hitting the back of the clutch on the jack shaft? I put a torque converter on a predator 212 and the chain hits the back of the second clutch on the jack shaft. Do u know remedy for this?
can u go straight chain on the b200RSV, i have a bully clutch i want to put on it! thanks
Did you change the valve and push rods from stock ?
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many engine combos on this bike. czcams.com/video/jHf9yJmaZLA/video.html
This kit works well in a drag race; however, my team races flat track and we rely on engine braking as well as the brakes. With that stall it just does not work well for us. We tested it out on the hard road, and it seems great, but when we hit the dirt track, we found the flaws very quickly.
So you use the stock driver? If so do you change the springs for a lower engagement RPM? Both of my stock drivers engage at 2700 RPM which is higher than a stock Juggernaut. For how I ride engagement RPM isn't a concern.
I am going to definitely have to get a converter kit. Can someone please tell me a good cheap one I can get with multiple holes so I won't have to buy a rising motor mount. I'm on a fixed income and groceries are ridiculous if anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated. A-MAX Torx 10 tooth and a 60 tooth rear. I put a chain tensioner on it. Still have to replace the clutch every month.
Did you mess around with the yellow spring at all? I have seen the red and green comparison but no yellow?
Not yet...
You wouldn't want the yellow spring with the Juggernaut. Others have reported that the green spring works the best. It has the lightest tension of the three common springs.
I like the yellow spring in the tightest hole with the stock driver. With my gearing under full throttle I get 46-4700 RPM at the belt shift. With the green spring around 3700 RPM. The red spring is in between that and not bad when in the tightest hole.
I have never tested which is best at top speed. Not sure how the driven spring would even matter after the belt shift under full throttle.
@@Deucealive75 thanks. Yeah I use the green spring in the middle hole with the torqzilla driver
Quicker no surprise.
Faster? Are you getting full CVT travel yet?
I have the new mega moto kit from GoPowerSports and I put the Honda engine on it, do you have a video on installing the cut off switch to the engine harness? I disconnected the oil level sensor and the switch has two wires one black and a red one. I think that the black wire is ground and the other wire goes to the harness? Not too sure, thanks.
I just bought your torque converter kit for my Coleman 200ex and the crankshaft adapter you suggest fits on the crankshaft but when I dry to put the main pulley on it Dosent wanna slide on as easy please help
Nobody ever mentions the bolt when mounting, what size is it where do I get one🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Hey black, I’ve got a header for my mini bike exhaust but it’s a screw on. You know any good ways to keep that thing from coming loose?
What speedo app do you use ?
I use digiHUD on the phone for top speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30
What app are you using on your phone for these tests??
I use a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30 and top speed . I also use digiHUD on tbe phone .
@@Black66 thanks dude
whats a normal head temperature for these engines
Nice
Nobody ever says size hex to remove smh
What app do you use when doing your speed test
I use a Dragy performance meter and digiHUD
can you drop a link for that exact torque convertor?
Links for the parts used are in the description of the video. Thanks for watching
What size is the allen on the center of the jugg? Save me the back and forth trip to the parts store 😆
I figured it out. 3/8 hex!
What size chain do you run?
I'm on a fixed income. I have already spent too much money on my Tillotson 212 engine. I'm running a 10 tooth clutch and 60 tooth rear sprocket. I bought a pre stretched motorcycle 420 chain. I had to put a chain tensioner on it. Too much power, the chain would come off.
so basically its just a lighter bolts, nuts and sleeves.
I want a lower rpm kit for the juggernaut!
RIDERS BEWARE!! THAT BELL IS FRAGILE!