False Idols | Jay Hill & Wayno Talk The Downfall of Diddy, Kendrick Lamar Vs J.Cole & Drake +More
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- čas přidán 31. 03. 2024
- Listen as Jay Hill and Wayno Debate False Idols in the Music Industry. As Diddy Legal Issues Grows More & More Jay Hill Mentions The Hardship of Seeing Our Legends Constantly Fall, and Wayno Emphasizes the Importance of Not Idolizing Industry People.
Jay Hill and Wayno Gets Into It About "The Big 3" Jay Hill Siding With Drake and Wayno Siding With Kendrick Lamar. Wayno Thinks This is Good For Hip Hop And It's Fun, While Jay Hill Believes Dissing Drake Is Corny Especially When Everyone Who Is Dissing Him His His "Sons"
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A lot of drake fans aren't fans of rap culture, they fans of outside culture. Thats why the internet spent years saying J Cole was boring. They aren't fans of the art but the lifestyle. But every time its an art conversation, lifestyle crew wants to chime in on the conversation on some "but he don't bump in the whip", "he scaring the females". Sit this one out like the rest of the pop fans.
Ohhhh shit, well said
Man stfu. Ya conspiracy theorist the worse. Drake fans aren’t fans of rap culture? Huh? Fucking goof
@@seanb9821🤣🤣🤡
@@fas0288 You trying to get somebody to shut up on the internet? Dumbass.
Exactly! He’s this generations version of EMINEM
This Jay Hill dude is why not everyone is meant to have a mic.
And he need to stop popping Adderall before work cause he be acting like it
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Wayno’s patience is to be admired.
This really summed up some Kendrick haters, basically unversed with the culture, complaining over the complexity of his lyrics while saying that he doesn’t make hits, even tho he’s the second highest hip hop act of recently. 🙈
Niggas kill me when they say, "I don't wanna have to think too hard when I listen to a song". Simple and fickle minded 😂😂😂
well said bby!
When they said Kendrick has not been tested, they are incorrect. When Kendrick was 16 and joined TDE those young talent rappers battled each other over thousands of hours. This is where Kendrick developed his craft. It was years in a training camp. Kendrick high school teacher talked about Kendrick ability to write poetry. Kendrick came into this world gifted with words who happened to be an A student.
Not at all the same thing bro
But if they ducking him what he suppose to do
Wayno is patient debating this dummy when it comes to Rap. Drake himself is scared of Kendrick 😂
Facts I’ve been saying this he don’t wanna go through what he went through with Pusha,he’s thinking about his brand
WAYNO DONT waste your time with this Cat man, he obviously live his life based on what other people think🤣🤦🏾♂️ he only eat at certain places cause other people say it’s great, he don’t wear clothes that’s not worn by other people & I guess he also don’t like/listen to artist that his bubble of people don’t listen too not because he doesn’t like them but because they don’t like them smh. Bruh made Noooooo sense it’s simple as this, if this was boxing KENDRICK is floyd skillet, he knows how to box & every rule in & in & out of boxing to pull the fight to his favor. Drake is like Manny Pacquiao he’s gonna get you those hit but he has Floyd’s popularity. But POPULARITY DOSENT WIN YOU THE MATCH ITS SKILLSET!!!! Hint why FLOYDS SKILLSET/ KENDRICKS RAP SKILL SET will fuck up DRAKE/MANNYS SKILLSET!!!! Being known don’t mean shit, if you can’t rap better or produce a better rap song/diss YOU LOSE!
I felt Wayno's frustration on this one. Jay Hill was all over the place in terms of the criteria he uses to form his opinions and he was called out on it numerous times. Basketball and emceeing don't apply to each other in the context he tried to use to compare Kendrick and Kawhi. I can't take someone seriously who won't even listen to someone's project before forming an impression of it. Shout out to Wayne tho, I wish he brought his podcast back.
My opinion… “a lot of people” … that’s not your opinion then fam. Learn how to think independently and argue critically
Facts
Everybody got opinions, but only a few can back them up with plausible arguments to make them facts
Jay Hill is a perfect example as to why not everyone deserves a Podcast. Bro argues off emotions and not facts..smdh. Kendrick not in your top 10 of all time is straight blasphemy..
Jay, trust me. Your audience doesn't want you to talk about music .. please stop, get some help
Jay, these might be the worst music takes of all-time 😂
Lmaoo soon as he said Kendrick overrated Wayno should’ve walked out
Damm Wayno is really arguing with a 3rd grade kid
Talkin to ppl with no music taste be crazy 😭😭😭
Wayno dead ass right bro should not be debating music
Wayno really sit an hour to make this dude look like a child talking to him (no disrespect). 😂
Salute Wayno for seeing the vision in Jay. Salute Jay for being prepared for this moment. Working diligently putting out content until getting the right connections. This just the beginning but real gotta be recognized =.
Prepared? Are we watching the same video?
@@fatfurie nall I know exactly what you mean but you’re not understanding what I meant. When I said prepared I was saying because Jay been trying to grow to that next level for awhile. Wayno, who is a respected person in the industry recognized his work ethic. So he did a couple back to back episodes. Him be prepared is him staying consistent and building the correct team. He do need to refine his music takes for sure. But I see him evolving
Starting off the video with a take as ridiculous as “Kendrick is overrated” is just wild. Never clicking on an another video. Goodluck tho.
lol man Jay hill logic was terrible.
Bro argument is akin to someone saying "Hov is overrated", you ask them why and their reason been "I don't like his voice".
😂😂
Kick em out the culture
Lol there are reasons why Jay is overrated but his voice is a terrible excuse lol
@@JamesSmith-ov5umJay-Z is not overrated. I'm not even that big on Jay-Z but he's fulfilled what he set out for. It doesn't have to be the best Lyricist but he is a great lyricist. If it comes to music he did enough.
@@garygnu8775 I agree with that
This is a headache, shoutout to Wayno 🤣 glad yall ended on a good note too lol
Facts.... that can't wait to meet u
Great debate/conversation solid discussion.🤬
People forget Kendrick was battling Sean while in a prolonged Drake beef. Humble is a big sean diss
Stop. He sent some subs. If subs mean battle then Drake has been battling nonstop for 10 years
If y’all gonna talk music Jay must do research. Wayno is deep with it.
Wayno was COOKIN’
Like crazy !!
I mean this in the nicest way possible and no disrespect to dude but he’s too dumb to have convos like this with Lol felt bad for Wayno. All his arguments are very surface level and got him running in circles
Not sure who this young guy is but when I see Wayno, I know the convo gonna be lit.
I don't think Jayhill is use to having people that actually have the intellect to out debate him. He should have probably waited until he was able to handle himself in critical conversation before inviting someone like Wayno to his pod . Wayno literally son'd him the entire episode .
The debate thing new but stay locked in it’s all good I ain’t going out without a fight lol
@@MrJayHillbut your points really don't make sense. You got grilled😢
@@MrJayHillthis not for you cat.
You have to absolutely sit down with big brothers and old heads and get grilled. Hard.
Let them talk to you. Write that shit down.
You'll come out so much better.
The guy on the left is giving slow 😅 lol
he's a whole sheep. Dude has opinions that correlate with a certain demographic, but when it comes to back that opinion with plausible arguments, it's a whole error 404
Ain’t nothing about this argument stupid. I agree with Jay Hill. I’m a music head and producer. It comes down to your philosophy about music. I personally don’t think that a musician/rapper can be top of the game without having the ability to make consistent hit songs. Moreover, prolific orators and lyricist should go to the industry that better suits them. Write a book nigga. Other wise if we talking about music, the palatability of the song is KING.
lmao
You so fine... Y'all don't give me the simp card...please
Cause of what Wayno had to go through during this convo is the reason I need to keep working hard, hopefully I can get to a level to have productive conversations about the culture.
Mr. Jay Will, I need u to give a better reason to call someone overrated instead of what people think. U coming off as just a hater for no reason sir. Just say u can’t understand and relate to his music because it’s too complex for u. U can’t be overrated if are rewarded for all your hard work.
Facts that jay will guy shouldn't take on music is so surface level lol feels like simple logic skills he's lacking as well or it could be communication skills idk but he needs so e self development in those areas.
I see what he’s saying but he’s terrible at discussions. If 80% of people are saying Macklemore is the best rapper ever but his skill set and albums don’t prove that, then he’s overrated
@@JamesSmith-ov5um but how can u say his skill set don’t match it when u don’t know the criteria. Plenty of times in this interview, he says states how he’s not well versed on stuff. Thats like me saying Patrick Beverly is a horrible player cause all he do is play defense and he ain’t putting up no scores when I don’t know what his role is or how he’s executing his job.
Can’t nobody rap with Kendrick it’s just different.
lol
Based off the intro alone - we need more men like Wayno to lead these podcast discussions!! PLEASE GIFT MEN LIKE WAYNO MICS!!!
The host is confusing himself,Wayno been doing this for years 😂😂😂😂
This aged like fine wine LOL 😂
I wouldn’t walked out after he said Kendrick overrated and he rather listen to Big Sean smh brother don’t talk Hip hop again FR
Hold up homie said k-dot not even in his top ten wow, God Bless you homie
Wayno spitting truth. What can entertainers do to help their youth to explain that there is life besides sports and entertainment and only a few will make it to the big time but to Focus on education, small business and other avenues to make a living.
Wayne got a pod? Id tune in
I’m 1h and 7 mins in and I already have PTSD. you ninjas making my blood pressure rise lol
Kiss told Beans "I'm on the Hardknock Life Tour hugging your mom's" 😂
Low key I just realized that I think like wayno
Jay Hill got grilled😭😭😭💔💔💔
We are all human, yes BUT we should still hold people accountable. And depending on your position, you may and should be held to a standard…a higher standard sometimes. Not to perfection but with more power comes greater responsibility.
Jay speaks as if he's on Twitter and IG vs Wayno speaking from his personal choice and heart
Wayno smashed Jay Hill in this discussion.
So much fucking yapping and glazing. You can't run a music podcast if you admit, on camera, that you don't know about music.
“He is one of our heros”- pick better heros. It’s one thing to acknowledge talent.
I never seen somebody make a statement stand on it than when wayno hit him with simple facts jayhill abandons his whole point 😂😂😂
Peace to the God .
Wayno, Salute
So it’s not a criminal investigation?
@1:03:57 is where Jay tries to explain why he thinks Kendrick is overrated.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is why most ppl are here. 😂
1:04:54 Is actually where he does. He explains what overrated means cause yall slow as hell. And then why lyrics don’t make u the goat, he don’t wanna bump kdot. Nigga didn’t even understand what he meant by big 3. WAYNO trying to get mad about his top 5 not having Kendrick…
We will never know if Drake don’t respond. Until then Kendrick won.
Bruh i miss media wayno you gotta link back with ak on off the record or pop out on a stream we need that 💪🏾
Jay you sound crazy the first 30 minutes.
Ok I get where this dynamic is going I see the vision
That’s love 🤞🏾
Definitely ak and Joe vibe
"I speak for the consumer" 😂
Salute Wayno fr!
For lying? It IS a criminal investigation
Run This Conversation Back, Post Battle
I’m 33, and I don’t think any of my peers looked up to diddy or r kelly
Diddy has been a clown since the beginning. Nobody took him seriously.
This is why everyone should be able to podcast. Dude really has no clue about music. He’s a consumer to what he likes and if it’s not that he can’t understand why other people like them.
Also, Drake also jumps on records that’s also already hot.
Mans had to be trolling🫠
great pod
Facts wayno just straight rhetorical comments
Yessss
Damn my Baltimore brother, you wildin' on the Kendrick convo 😂
1:20:39 I think this is essentially what his music taste comes down to. To say that Drake "birthed" all these artists is a WILD statement. Idk how old he is, so that might have something to do with it, and maybe *he* just didn't know about those artists before Drake, ok. But he already admitted that he wasn't well versed in music knowledge, so maybe don't make those kind of statements then? Just a suggestion, lol.
You can tell Jay grew up listening to 92Q by his music takes he likes whatever popular
This crazy 😂😂
😂
I feel like y'all focused on the wrong things. This dude said Drake gave us Kodak Black & 21?! Please take everything he says moving forward with a grain of🧂😂
He said “what happens if it was Jordan or Kobe” ppl be so young they don’t realize Kobe did go through this but he overcame it bc the world wasn’t as soft as it is now
Drake hopped on people that were already bubbling in their culture and then he took over their style. His "sound" coincides with whoever he started messing around with. Starting with Weeknd and Party.
Everyone isn’t looking for entertainers to lead us, it’s not about that but we can’t deny that they don’t have influence over others. And having a father doesn’t guarantee that young minds won’t fall victim to being influenced by outsiders.
This ended perfectly
How does the older guy take all this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Nah wayno ain’t let dude make a point at all. It’s like he was trying to get him flustered. Smh
Ngl Like That being the first rap song since 2020 to debut at #1 def makes this dude talking point not hold weight. I mean Kendrick did just come off of the most successful rap tours in history. He also outsold Drake with by 200 thousand when Damn and More Life dropped. As much as you think Drake helped out a lot of artist they also helped Drake stay relevant. Metro and 21 didn’t have to gift wrap Knife Talk to Drake the leak shows it was a hit without em. Drake definitely isn’t as big as he is without him piggy backing off of artist. They are mutually beneficial. Cole showed you can sale hella records without feature, Kendrick showed you can sell even more without a Drake feature 🤷🏾. Drake made Smiley, Blockboy Jb and ilovemakonnen not the people u named that gift wrapped him already great songs.
Really sounding like hater lmao
Wayno.... Please don't talk music with this guy ever again. We can see your blood pressure going up 😂
If someone help you get on and they do funny shit behind your back you still ride with them then ?
I never knew dude Jay hill was so dumb😕
Cuz not understanding 😂😂😂 what’s your opinion bro not everybody else
Fact ... but it's all about principles righteousness and morality....
This dude music iq super biased 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Yea last video I watch. This young simple person listen to talk instead of comprehend.
Wayno destroyed you
Never is you in atlanta sayin drake birthed future and 21 savage you crazy ass hell lol
1:02:50 The comments kept it a hunnit too and he was right 😂😂they don’t
This was like watching a car crash… 👀
This was the most annoying thing I’ve ever watched and I’ll never watch bro again
Wayno , don't come back to Jay hills podcast , he doesn't know what he's talking about
I thought man was in his early to mid 20s with his takes on some of this. Based off of feelings
This Jay dude sound younnnnngggggggggg he don’t know music at all
Spiritual vs realistic real
Michael Jordan excepted the fact to be a puppet but then after contract he always gave forward and didn't agree to this plague of moral compose ...but I know even in the hood you go though shit. Today I tell you
Bro got community brain😂
Lol this guy clearly doesn’t know how to communicate and gets mad at Wayno for it, lol has a lot of audacity
So it’s not a criminal investigation?
Loool ikr
Who's mans is this? Wayno why are you even talking to this dude
No Loaded Lux disrespect Jay....
Might delete part 1 please listen carefully and tell me who he speaking about, then tell me why kdot not responding
Cause it was trash lmao
Are you tryna imply he don't want smoke with Cole?
@@kennyshemar2537wdym
54:40
Thank you thank you thank you