This Bronze Sombra got accused of NOT DOING DAMAGE... is it true? | Spectating Bronze Bingo
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Oh let me tell you, as someone Who is currently coaching a team of People completely New to the game. When a Sombra is truly not doing anything you just dont see them. Because they only hack healthpacks and run around invis. After a full game they have about 255 dmg, 0 elims, maybe 1 assist and No deaths now that is a Sombra Who does nothing
Reminds me of my good old days when I had no clue what I was doing and I just wanted to play Sombra because she was cute
@@3nowStorm as a sombra player this is the right answer. When the back line turns for me unless I’m sure I won’t die or I can get a kill I will nope the fuck out of there
Good fuck sombras
If you're complaining about damage from a sombra i dont know what to tell you
@@hamsterman8975 biblically accurate ibuki fan
The biggest thing I forget to do as Sombra is reload.
It's rare but I've had instances where I EMP, fire 3 bullets, then just cry while I reload lmao
her reload feels like it takes forever too
U can cancel her animation with using hack as soon as u see her put the mag in the pistol use the hack ability and it skips the animation when she pulls something in her gun
TRUE. Like, I have a Zen in front, hack him and ready to kill him until after two bullets I start reloading 🫠
@@flowerboy14sombra tech (real)
The most egregious thing he does is randomly translocate when he is full hp. I feel like if he works on that he would be so much better
Fitzy does that too but he does it way more frequently and his translocaters are usually closer to him and not at a health pack. This way he can keep distracting the enemies for a long time because he tps away as soon as they turn towards him and is back to annoy as soon as they focus other stuff again. I wouldnt say so using tp with full health is a bad thing in general, but if ur translocater is located at a healthpack anyways, yeah, theres no reason to tp at full hp.
@@vornamenachname554 yup, as long as the tp is 5 seconds ish away from the fight so they can't just literally follow you to it before you can invis again.
Been there.
@@vornamenachname554 yep using translocator is the biggest skill issue, if you want to be good with her you sometimes have to destroy the current location to for example use it to reach higher ground or destroy it because its too far away and you want to use it to be closer to the enemys, if you hack 200 hp packs, you are near immortal at it anyway and you deny it for enemys to use.
I feel like the Bingo card should more reflect the player you're spectating or the map. Like if you know you're spectating a Sombra there should be more Sombra stuff on the card or if you know it's Shambali there should be some stuff on the bingo card that represent what can happen on that map specifically. Just a suggestion. The videos are great.
True but I think it's cuz he doesn't know the exact comp
As someone who plays Sombra a lot, I gotta say that this player backs out way too quickly. I saw them translocate back at full health way too much and too early, especially during the first phase. And in that little room by first point, they could have avoided the sticky grenade damage by translocating to remove it since translocating does also provide a short window of I frames. But, definitely not a bad Sombra player. They're getting kills and chosing the right targets. Just definitely needed to hack more
You can't translocate if your stuck unfortunately
@@WinterPains this vod was before the hinder change
i guess there's maybe a rationale of "if i hack before i shoot, they'll know i'm there"
As a sombra main ever since I started playing comp: that rationale does come up for me at times. I hack if they are grouped and I just want to freak them up to watch the panic. I'll not hack for a quick kill in groups before teleporting. But seeing someone solo? hack, kill and go.
Idk about bronze but in gold if you're going after a support like ana you either have to hack, hide, then wait till they turn or you just have to not hack and go for the kill. Hack just gives them time to react
Tbh I use the strat "hack&hide" when I hack them, hide for a bit so they lower their guard and then attack and get the kill, it's pretty useful to scare supports/keep the dps away from the fight bc they'll be hunting ya, in the end sombra is all about k! The squishies :v
Abt the person: they can turn off invis in the middle of the hack so u kinda "cancel" it and shoot faster, I think they'll get the hang of it with time tho, they seem to be doing a decent job as sombra
You can remove stealth at the same moment you start the hack. It will reduce the time before you can shoot significantly
@@Lardbutt200 i also heard if u have really aware enemies you could hack, translocate, then attack them but only if your translocator is nearby
As a gold sombra main I was pretty impressed with this, especially when you compare to some of the other bronzes we've spectated. Some sombras do the opposite and always hack before engaging when it's not always the best play. They did definitely need to hack more though, esp the health packs. They probably didn't like hacking the health pack they were keeping their translocator on bc it would give them away so you do have to weigh the risk of that but if you get better at finding tp spots then you can worry about it less. putting it right on top of or next to a health pack makes them too easy to find. The part on defence where they were running around for a minute looked like they were looking to spawn camp someone but hadn't kept up with the kill feed so there was no one to camp lol. I think with practice they could definitely climb :)
New player that got into plat with sombra: Fully agreed! I go around hacking health packs I figure the enemy will use and try not to hack before attacking grouped players. I hack solo people before a kill or hack in groups just to watch the panic.
Finding translocator spots is fun, I have tried a lot of random places in quickplay.
Nah bruh, im gold but this guy needs to hack people more holy
Totally agree with ya! The best strat is to hack the health packs that u know the enemy will use when in danger and to hide the translocator near, not on top of the health pack! It makes more difficult to them to find it
@@irfbjifi3rufbui3bf35 It depends, sometimes you can really benefit of waiting for a hack until you can mess up an ult or ability.
as plat dps this guy deserves gold
When I play DPS I'm a Sombra main. Almost always have least damage among DPS. Damage is not her forte it's efficiency of elims and just being an all around nuisance to the backline
Yeah, we know, this Sombra didn’t do that either though.
@@Fucklifedeadshit true I'm just trying to ease the mind of the player with them being bronze 5 XD
@@VargonDraxar they'll stay bronze 5 if people aren't real with them
I think the most offensive thing abt this is how little value they got out of their soldier, and yet they decided to blame Sombra. It's bronze 5, so ofc it isnt good or efficient gameplay, but at most i'd say they're mid silver. Good for somebody who's new.
All other bronze dps usually sit and shoot at the tank, so their dps numbers are inflated. Bet if everyone played more like ppl play Sombra, they wouldn't have that much damage
Sombra isn't a 'killing machine' that ends the games with tens of thousands of damage. She is meant to support your team in getting kills. She will get kills where and when she can. This sombra was a decent example for bronze 5 but hacking helps a lot (especially in stealth).
I feel like it's better to not hack targets who are standing completely still (like a widow who's scoped in) since you can get a lot of headshots before they even react. But if they're moving around already, you might as well hack them because your accuracy will be about the same and the "surprise damage" won't really come into effect.
fair, but the amount of times they just went for straight damage and no hacks
It really depends on the options. Widows, anas, etc. The delay before the person realizes you are actually shooting at them tends to be worth more than them going full dodge mode when you have to finish the hack animation. They also are warned that they will be the target if you hack them specifically. I tend to reserve hacking targets for non surprise attacks to get the damage in, such as open fights where you can't get the surprise in or discorded targets.
Y'all put all that thinking into when to go for headshots??? I just go for headshots on widows, ashes, and targets standing still otherwise I just hack them before uncloaking
(I've also noticed you can literally unclock while hacking so your target has very little time to react all you have to do is starting shooting half way through the hack)
Easy tip for this sombra to be more efficient on dives; you can hack while unstealthing. It’ll give you away a little sooner but you’ll get a kill much more often with a free hack.
The moments when emonggs confused face is overlayed on the bronze doing some really bronze stuff is so good lol
Bronze 5 is very very deep, keep grinding dude!
ps: your leaving the fights to early, you use the teleporter while your stil at 200 hp after you get a kill, so you spent 50% of the fight running back to the fight when you dident need to leave in the 1st place
Yeah, once after 5 wins 0 loses I did move exactly 1% inside it...
@@widzu95_ if you at the bottom of bronze 5 then you can win 40 in a row and stil be bronze 5
@@magnusberge I still get confused about how can ppl even be put in B5 in the first place... after i played my first placement ever (i started playing this game like, 2 weeks ago) i got placed in Gold 2
@@Sac-chan Ive coached about 400 players, and alot of them where B5 players, id say, that its a mix of having super bad internet, very low FPS, beeing very new to games, like, never touched a video game in there life, having switched from console to pc or visa versa, and in general just not putting inn enough effort into there matches, like, not tryharding
@@magnusberge bro, before this game i used to play paladins, i know its different but i didn't have the pc i have now, i used to play with 156-165 ping with only 12-20 fps (i had a Lenovo All in One from 2015), i have over 1500 hours into it and when i did my first placement (with less than 200 hours) i got placed in Gold 1 and climbed up to masters with those trash specs. Now i have a good pc, but the net is still bad, i play OW2 with 160-200 ping and i still pop off most of the time unless i shutdown my brain for no reason
Bronze level they always say "sombra throwing" because the damage output isnt as high as the other DPS which literally is getting pocketed and boosted by a mercy while only shooting the tank. Doesnt matter if the Sombra is on 50 kills and the other DPS on 5, if the damage number is lower she obviously isnt doing her job. Drives me nuts when I see it and I know they are doing damn well on the Sombra and really carrying the team.
Yea low-damage dps heroes get a lot of shit in the metal ranks. Not every hero is a Junk or Bastion smh
This reminded me of something funny. Had a triple stack complaining I wasn't doing much damage as a widow when my elims are 30+ and 3x their dps friend.
Saw someone cooking our widowmaker for low dmg but she was getting headshots. Like dawg 200 dmg instantly leaves no time for them to be healed 💀
'i had more damage' and 3 kills, it wasn't effective
Yeah, bronze flaming isn't a good indicator of anything
Health pack hacking is such a trap lmao
So a tip for anyone trying out sombra, if someone is isolated you can hack while coming out of stealth.
So the moment they are hacked your ready to shoot right away.
So basically trigger de-stealth and hack immediately after/at the same time and the hack will go off at the same time you can shoot? Huge if true
@@AarPlays Yes, basically if you hack and unstealth at the same time, the hack will be finished the moment your done coming out of invis.
Which means you can start shooting right away.
i feel like the stats we can see for the whole team should be unique to the hero and not the same stats for everyone im sure ppls tone would change on sombra if we could see how many enemies shes hacked or the dmg shes done to hacked enemies rather then just over all dmg, like dmg mit doesnt need to be a stat we can see for everyone but might be important for heroes like rein or dva and such
I only saw this once or twice but as a sombra, never engage a bastion in assault form. 9/10 times you’ll get rolled, and he has an additional 20% damage reduction on top of his armor’s 30%
Hack the bastion when he’s in recon and shoot him then, it’s harder for him to hit shots that way and he’ll take a lot more damage
Even if he has assault on cooldown, still hack. Bastion has a lot of hp and you gotta kill him before his team backs him up
You can beat a bastion in assault form but you cant hack and you have to be confident in hitting his crit
what’s good about sombra against bastion is that bastion pretty much loses the 1v1 all the time, but you can also easily bait out his assault form if he uses it too early in a 1v1, just tp out and you got a slow, confused bastion who’s even easier to kill now. If he uses assault mode mid 1v1, he’s also easy to kill cuz there’s a brief animation where he gets into it, meaning he’ll probably die before he gets the chance to shoot u. The main thing to note down against a bastion is to always go for the head. Even when he is in assault mode. Sombra can easily catch bastion off guard. She’s also able to chase him down when he uses his ult.
Getting him to turn around in assault form is good though, you don't have to win. Plus you're wasting some of the Bastion's assault form uptime. Maybe even saving a teammate from him, unless he commits while you're shooting him in the back crit. You can instantly teleport out with I-frames if he's about to get you in his sights. I wait until I see him shooting at someone else then hack, and hide to see what he does with the wall hacks, then I shoot him in the back if it's available and hes not seeking me out. (Don't always have to hack just read the situation.) Getting anyone to just turn around is instant value you just took their attention from the team fight, and your team is maybe shooting them in the back, if not fighting against the undistracted opponents. So I wouldn't say to "never" go for the assault Bastion, but to have the option open for a well thought out, and timed engagement. Nobody has to be eliminated, you can just annoy. Of course there may be a more valuable target or play, but we're talking about engaging Bastion here not anyone else.
0:53 purple dagger, I liked the video, where is my cookie 👀
Eventually this letter number essay is going to become a letter number thesis
I feel like hack before attack is situational based on who you're attacking and player position.
@emongg you can check team stats if you spectate a specific team instead of spectating all
omg the ana nanoing the kiriko that left her to die 😂😂
that kiriko didn’t peel for her at all and just watched her die it irritated me so much 😭 as a masters support i always peel for my second support
the way chat bullies him for saying aftuh😂😂😂
I think the bastion ulted that doorway because his team pinged it and thought the sombra was there
F1 or reading the ow wiki is verry helpful before playing a hero lol
The Sombra is alright, just need trigger discipline, also hack health packs and targets
People see the numbers on the board and immediately assume skill levels. It's hilarious to see after how long the games been out people haven't realized the board is almost pointless to determine skill level. Almost.
I'm new new(kiriko pass I started playing) and I've realized that pretty quick.
It's so easy to farm damage and shoot whoever is already low to finish them off for easy eliminations.
I proved it with moria one day dropping 40+ kills with my Genji who did the same. But all I did was touch everyone he was already killing 🤷♂️
Stats said I'm a top 500 in a gold lobby that game. I'm definitely not remotely close to that. Stats are basically irrelevant during the game.
I'm here for the content but emongg's reactions are a welcome bonus 😄❤
To be fair this was way better than the usual replays we see. His aim is OK and his decision making needs improvement, but he can get out of bronze easily. It's hard to expect follow ups on Sombra's ult tho.
So this is where Emongg not actually playing the character comes a bit into play because of nuance. You actually don't hack people before you shoot them most of the time as you get higher up (unless you are trying to make the enemy tank's life miserable). Hacking people when they aren't in a bad situation/solo and NEED their abilities to get out of it (think Mei towards the front and she is obviously going to ice wall/block) is just a way to give people time to react to you. Even if your aim is cracked hacking people first unless you are on high ground or something just gives people time to shoot you first. So most of the time you actually DON'T want to hack people first. You can put more damage onto them before they even start looking at you most of the time unless they really been drinking Mountain Dew and Doritos.
Tip: Before blaming somone for not having enough dmg, look at their hero. (a winston will probably have less dmg than orisa, tracer less than junkrat.)
5:51 should have counted towards "ability used after it should've been used", because the sombra could've used translocator to avoid the mag grenade but didn't until after taking the damage.
perfect, right on time again....................... lunch time watch
One thing people don't talk about enough on Sombra is that the more you utilize her kit, the less value she has (being invis or TP far away from the fight gets no value, you might as well be dead). Sombras need to focus a lot more on having high uptime more than anything else.
"Die to a random Moria orb" should be a card
Huh. I'm a diamond Sombra main and the thing that stands out to me is the lack of hacking and the leaving immediately. It's not just leaving, it's because the translocator is parked by a health pack. If it was closer to the fight, teleporting out when full health could have a purpose. But they just leave for no reason at all.
Moira on the enemy team was a Frontline support there for a bit. But it didn't get marked off.
THE RESIDENT EVIL 5 SOUNDS WERE GIVING ME FLASHBACKS
20:55 oml I can't count the number of times I've gone in for what should be a perfect assassination except I forgot to reload and have three bullets left
I'm only a freeplay scrub Sombra but from that point of view I definitely do understand them not hacking that much. When you have bad aim (like myself) it's beneficial to have that element of surprise, especially if they also got their team mates nearby it's gonna alert them to your presence as well, I find hacking to be most useful when you're fighting with your team mates and/or you're trying to get damage on the tank. Though sometimes it is useful to have the enemy to turn their attention away at you as well.
2:58 LMFAO emongg when he realizes low elo supports don’t even heal, i didn’t get healed until i reached diamond tbh, that’s when support’s begin to actually have skill and know who’s low
Damn i just realized that the page to show the bingo board/card is a dnd character sheet
I love this Sombrero gameplay I didn't know she had a scope
Emongg saying “huge emp” over and over 😂
While not perfect, the Sombra was actually not too bad (definitely nothing to complain about at this elo in comparison) Better than many of the Sombras I’ve played with. By the title, I was expecting a Sombra that was like 5and12 with 2k damage. This Sombra at least got picks.
Bro was playing running simulator out there
honestly if this sombra hacked a bit more, and didn't teleport out at full HP, the only real thing to work on is aim, which is a skill you just have to train for, keep grinding! you got this!
Tbf not hacking before going for the kill is kind of smart. Hacking someone literally just turns all their crosshair towards you most of the times it feels like
Legit i kept thinking "omg just throw a virus!!" Then realized when this video came out....
That emp was huge!! Everyone below 50hp and ur team just dropped it😢
Low elo are the kings of, "Let me check the scoreboard to see who has the smallest numbers because they are to blame." while simultaneously turbo feeding themselves. But I have most damage! ooga booga
This Sombra played really well for bronze 5. I think i am noticing some panic aiming when behind enemy lines? And some missed hacks... But overall they did their job as Sombra including making the enemy widow switch lol
I'm guessing this person watches Questron, cause it seemed that they implemented some of his tips like not hacking healthpacks, and not hacking targets unless it's necessary to out-DPS the healing they receive
For those wondering, its not worth it to hack squishies. The duration of hack is so long it actually lets targets know youre there, and with the new cas nade if you hack he's going to nade you, slow you by 30% and turn off your tp, then 2 tap headshot you. Hacking is good for tanks, interrupting ults, or giving walls to the team especially widow.
Additionally, not hacking healthpacks is a low elo move to prevent the enemies from seeing the hacked pack and pushing it to find the translocator. You shouldn't hack health packs near your locator unless you think youre going to tp back before they naturally come up. Example at 19:05 they would 100% know the locator was there if it was hacked
Also 7:50 she didnt turn around because of all the audio happening. Even being shot at, the dynamic audio in this game can be really hard to pinpoint. The hack though? Dead give away she was being shot by Sombra.
what’s the music in the background it got a vibe to it
I hope the person that submitted this ended up watching live or the CZcams after to listen and learn from what Emongg saying. Cuz there’s a few simple changes that could drastically improve this player’s games
2:06 This is why that Cass is in Bronze.
I had a sombra in a quick play game who ran around invisible hacking but did genuinely 0 damage. This is not an exaggeration they had to go out of their way not to shoot anyone. They did 0 damage by the end of the game. From beginning to start ZERO. But they claimed it was fine since they had 20 hacked enemies.
Mosquito Sombra
What's the bingo in the 4th row down all the way on the right say?
Tip for bronze sombra's if the person youre hacking is the person you want to shoot. Start hacking and, while you're hacking, start shooting. You'll come out of invisibility faster and will be able to shoot quicker
Also, don't hack zen's or widowmakers. You can burst them down easy without hacks. If you see a zen in your game, you're eating 🤤
There's like this certain class of dps in my mind that don't do insane damage. Somba, tracer, Cassidy, widow, hanzo some others who don't play like the massive damage output but like play this assassin game trying to pick off targets one by one
Sombra needs to know better the map (specially where to leave the translocator), enemy cooldowns and position off-angle. The firsts 2 mins were legit camping the Widow.
You can watch Fitzyhere or Questron for some great tips on Sombra.
Which is a great strat if that Widow would otherwise be wrecking the team. The value of Sombra is not only getting a lot of kills/damage, but the distraction factor of a dps or support by keeping them occupied and off most team fights. It is amazing the amount of people that do not comprehend this.
one thing that annoys me is that they dont reload during the tp backs
You may get a lot of damage but that damage will be just drilling the tank the whole game who gets healed right away or you may get 2 picks and push the team back, in this rank also possibly staggering them and cause them to 2-3v5 the whole game🙃
The lack of hacking drives me crazy!!! Omg
7:20 WHY DIDN'T YOU HACK THE MOIRA. 😭
oh trust me bronze 5 is EXTREMELY deep. it's the
I don’t think they realise their teammates don’t do increased dmg to hacked targets bc they’d emp then leave and expect their team to do something with it
There is difference between meaningful damage and high damage. A bastion should get loads of damage from turret form trying to melt tanks as a sombra you normally just have elimination damage.
WOOOOO NEW BINGO CARD!!!!
Been watching Fitzy's sombra for months now and looking at this bronze gameplay kinda hurts me a lil bit. Personally, I have good game mechanics and I can play sombra fairly well and understand her true potential, but man does it hurt seeing other sombra players not utilising her to her fullest.
Sorry, new here, but what is the super long bingo square?
I love how the text for "Not getting on the objective" keeps getting longer and longer
No hack Sombra new meta
I’m a console Masters player, and I do play Sombra often, I tend to not even have a lot of dmg, but I have lots of elims and assist, Sombra is about her kit, not dmg, if you can keep on killing one person on the enemy team they you make it a 5v4 because you can then tp back and hack someone, in my lobbies I get yelled at to switch off Sombra but yet I’m not going to because I have the most elims and assist, just because I don’t have dmg doesn’t mean I should switch, people need to understand that elims>dmg
Bro once I was playing mystery heros I was sigma and I kept on getting randomly hacked and sometimes shot at.. eventually I developed a braincell and started shooting my attack since it bounces off of stuff and explodes so I eventually got the sombra lol
Best tip to give this sombra is probably to turn down sensitivity, so they stop spraying when they try to assassinate someone.
0 deaths! How am I bronze!
As a Hanzo main who almost always gets rolled by sombra, it makes me feel good every time I see this sombra die
Bob the baiter? BOB DO SOMETHING!
The tf2 spy experience
The not hacking is killing me slowly
PLEASE check the stats, you can do that by spectating a specific team. e.g spectate blue then touch tab.
The frustration with sombra as a teammate that i think they have that i also have at times is that fkrnlargr stretches of the game you are basically playing 4v5 and the sobra isnt aiding inthe team fight and you need someone to just put damage on the other team. If the sombra is just getting 1 pick every 2 teleport attempts and only contributing to the team fight with an ult every ince and a while its just not enough in most matches. Even jf you get 1 pick all you are doing is just making it a 4v4 team fight except they still have way more damage output. And killing 1 support doesnt matter as much because they dintnhave to heal as much because you arent damaging anyonw else.
Hell yes!
I love the bingos and I can’t wait to see the sombra do nothing as usual /s
lmao as a sombra main, I get called out for doing nothing all the time. it’s sad 😭
@@i_albanna I get called out a lot as well, it’s like I’m always ready to take blame when I’ve done nothing and swap, always, but when I’m hacking ults and killing supports and the other 4 on my team are dead off cooldown then I gotta know why it’s my fault lol
@@Waffl3B1T THIS!! bro I hate it when my teams losing and there’s always that one person that NEEDS to blame our loss on someone. 99% of the time they blame me and 99% of the time I’m doing fine and I’m not throwing. They just blame me cuz I’m playing sombra and I don’t shoot the tank 24/7
@i_Albanna not to mention most of the time if the sombra is doing bad its cause the team is bad. Sombra really leans on her team for follow ups and if your team has the collective iq of a walnut then they probably won't follow up
@@LotteLattes this!! Just played a diamond 4 game, I was sombra, had Winton genji Ana lucio on my side, no one wanted to follow up on anyone or dive. I had a sad.
Questron rage
i thnk the reason they are stuck in bronze is because the system sees them not using hack. which at the end of every match that is tracked over multiple stats for her. i bet if they just start hacking more they will move up to low gold.
I think i played for this person the other day, cant remember if i was tank or sup. I remember the name, because i thought it was bobthebuilder but i didnt look hard enough. Was in QP
Yeah that tracking needs massive improvement.
So... that was definately a ven diagram
Im pretty sure Bobthebaiter is a middle aged dad, i think i recognize the name from one of flats' videos
What is the background music? I feel like I know it but I cannot place my finger on it! It's killing me!
I played with this kid before, we was playing a death match
As a Sombra main - this is painful to watch.
Questron would be mad that this player's being told to hack healthpacks lol (jkjk)
not hacking the widow is actually a better strat because you can just line your crosshair on her head and get a bunch of damage into the headshots anyway where as the hack gives the enemys a second to react
Bronze is incredible
This blows my mind lol, I've been playing a lot of sombra last few weeks and I'm hacking non-stop. At the very least you can keep a support from doing any support by just hacking and distracting. And if you gonna shoot someone, hack them first so it's quicker to kill em. If they had a RMB they'd have dominated the game
It's always the bronze players who say they don't belong in that rank. When you watch the gameplay and see that they absolutely do lol.