All good advice the only thing ill say for the millionth time YOU DONT NEED TO SPEND $1000.00 for a quality 100ah lifepo4 battery. Dakota has really screwed many people thinking thats the case. There are many quality 100ah options in the $350 to $500 range. Don't be lazy educate and research.
Be careful with those bargain brand batteries. LiTime for example claims they have grade A cells when they really use B grade. So you’re really rolling the dice on how long your battery will last as well as how many amp hours you’re really getting.
love my 100ah bioenno power battery, it pushes my xi3 where ever I need to go and gives me a piece of mind that I have enough power to return to the launch ramp after 12 hours day of fishing on my Bonafide SS127
Great Advice. I had to figure it out on my own started with a 50 amp LIFe good for 1hr hard 2 hours at 50%. Then I bought a 2nd 50A life and split time one Battery for XI3 the other to chart plotter then swapped prior to running 1st battery dead. After watching your battery box video, I bought a 3rd matching 50 A Life battery 2 in parallel 3rd to fishfinder and acc's if necessary I can swap to 3rd bat for reserve.
A 60AH will run a bow mount trolling motor full throttle for 4hrs. Cut back 20% and you may lose .25mph but you're good for 10hrs. Amped Outdoors is built for saltwater w hardware SS, aluminum... (only 4 cells and they are incased in a metal frame).
i have a 10 ft one man Creek boat plastic not as heavy as a kayak but i run a 30 lb thrust trolling motor and i fish the Cape Fear river and Black river here in South East N.C. my average day is about 8 hrs on the water in current so can i get by with 50ah or 60 ah or should i go with the 80 ah i am on a tight budget and what type of charger would i need i'm sure my battery charger for my lead acid battery wouldn't work i don't know what i need for lithium
I have a 12 volt Minn Kota Endura C2 30lbs thrust and nothing else run off the battery and I mainly fish ponds and lake but I fish all day most days so what size battery should I get I would get the non lithium battery because the lithium batteries are expensive
Look for a group size 27-29 deepcycle. This is what I had available to me in the past on my VibeSeaghost using a 90's minnkota 36lb thrust and furthest I went was around 4.6 miles round trip at 50% thrust. Still had some voltage to spare but was cutting it close to draining the battery too far. I had a small wheelchair battery 30ah 25lbs tucked away just incase. Beware them deepcycles be heavy.
Thanks for the info. I am currently adding a Motorguide Xi3 to my Vibe Shearwater and trying to decide on the right battery. I was thinking 60ah should be good enough. By the way, I can appreciate the accent of "batchry"...LOL
The reason some people say that is because they are running to small of a battery. If you have a 55 lb on a single 50 amp. It’s not good to do it. It burns up the motor board on the battery. Because it’s not made to handle the amp draw. But if you run a 100 amp on a 55 lb you will be fine. It’s built to handle the amp draw.
with regards to the amp draw you mentioned early on in the video. Does that depend on what gear selection? My minn kota is a maximum current amp draw of 64A so I presume that's on gear selection 5 which is maximum gear. My question is what current amp draw would it be on gear selection 1 ?
Yes it’s all on what speed you run. The higher speed will pull more amps. If you run speed one you will run all day no problem. If you run wide open you might run an hour or 1.5 hours depending on battery size
Thanks for the info my tm at max pulls 30ah I'm only will use it to get to spots on parksville and back to ramp maybe 15 to 20 min at a time or to get further up the chick and drift back and been trying to figure what size to get and this is the closest to a answer I've found, I have a perception outlaw 11.5.
I am doing an inflatable saturn HD Triton 12' setup. I have a 6Hp outboard for big moves and then the boat has front mount for a trolling motor that I would use to cruise shorelines. I plan to have a max 5inch finder to power as well. What would you recommend in this setup?
Hi, would you recomand a 200 Amp LiPo4 battery for a MotorGuide Xi3 55 lbs trust, 36 inch shaft? I belive would last more on the water than a 100 Amps, but i am not sure.
I was going to buy 2x 50amp Ampere bstteries to power a NK180S motor. Although i wanted something light and small for my Tandem Kayak, im now thinking 2x 100amp. Question for you, if i did 4x50amp 12v batteries would that be equivalent to 2x100amp 12v batts or not because of the different size bms systems?
Wish I'd found this before ordering mine. I have an Old Town AP 120, and went with the Amped 60 AH. Don't plan on running wide open unless necessary, but plan to fish some tournaments. Should I be good to go?
You just have manage your battery a little more. It’s harder to make long trips. At higher speeds. But you should be good for getting out and fishing along
I have a Motor guide trolling motor on my kayak with a 30lbs thrust and I'm looking at the one battery that's a 100amp and it's only 25lbs battery I like that But Do you know that if I ever flip the kayak over for just a Very short time like 15-20 Sec Can are will that mess them battery's up The listing is telling me that you can run them on it's side If you ever wanted to I don't But if I flip it it's going upright Can you help me with that answer The Battery look's like it will be the one I need for where I'm fishing "Thanks man"
This was so helpful, but I have a couple specific questions. I got the BKC pk11 and my girl got me the trolling motor for it for Xmas, it recommends the the (TalentCell lifepro 12v 24Ah) model#LF4040. I run few lights, and Helix5, would the battery it recommends work? Or should go with something else? I just fish around lakes no rivers. Thank you for your time and help.
@@goonitunezperformance3155 what brand? Not interested in a cheap knockoff that will catch fire lol. If you get a good quality battery you are paying $$$
@Rybay Do your research bro, you can get 100ah for less than $900 like the PowerQueen and Ampere Time. If you are that scared of your battery catching on fire, then nut up and get a Dakota. I'll just keep fishing with my 150ah hypery I paid 500 bucks for. Only weighs 37lbs, too. I also have a renogy bluetooth 100ah for $500 and a 100ah powerqueen I got for $350. All used for hours going miles across lakes. You don't need $900 for a 100ah LIFEPO4.
I disagree on buying 80 to 100 amp for a kayak without any numbers, that is telling people nothing but that bigger is always better. I made a video explaining amp draw and speed that way people can decide how far and how fast they wanna go ill leave a link here. czcams.com/video/qQi7VZ7BExE/video.html
We have tested smaller battery’s but also have talked with other battery company’s. They highly recommend people running bigger battery with 55amps plus. Or you can buy two smaller battery’s and run them in parallel. But by the time you do that you could have bought one big battery. The issue is the mother board. People are roasting them due to high amp draw. We also recommend a bigger battery so you can run at higher speeds or have extra if you may need it.
@@OneObjective if you use a fish finder 12, 16, 32 amps battery for a trolling motor yes you are going to fry the board but most trolling motor batteries start at 50 amps continously. Now if it was for a bass boat I'd say go for 100 because of the beefier board but for most kayaks I don't think is a big deal considering a good speed of about 4 miles and you are drawing 20 amps so you have planty of amps left. I know because I have one and i have done all these tests. And yes manufactures want you to spend the most possible of course, but like I said the video i made explains everything and people should decide what range and speed they would like to go because on a kayak you can't really go faster than 4.5 mph with a trolling motor.
I will say this. We have roasted two 60 amp battery’s. And we only ran a the motor on it. It’s fine if people want to run what every size they can afford. But the warranty on the big names battery’s aren’t as good as they seam if you burn up two battery’s in short period of time. Been there done that one.
Here is the real math, take your amp draw divide it on your battery amp hour example= 100ahbatt.÷20ampsmotor=5 hour run time ! Welcome, your best bet go with lithium iron phosphate battery forget the dinosaur led acid !
All good advice the only thing ill say for the millionth time YOU DONT NEED TO SPEND $1000.00 for a quality 100ah lifepo4 battery. Dakota has really screwed many people thinking thats the case. There are many quality 100ah options in the $350 to $500 range. Don't be lazy educate and research.
Be careful with those bargain brand batteries. LiTime for example claims they have grade A cells when they really use B grade. So you’re really rolling the dice on how long your battery will last as well as how many amp hours you’re really getting.
love my 100ah bioenno power battery, it pushes my xi3 where ever I need to go and gives me a piece of mind that I have enough power to return to the launch ramp after 12 hours day of fishing on my Bonafide SS127
Can’t go wrong with a 100 amp battery
50pound trolling motor 100amp battery been loving it
Great Advice. I had to figure it out on my own started with a 50 amp LIFe good for 1hr hard 2 hours at 50%. Then I bought a 2nd 50A life and split time one Battery for XI3 the other to chart plotter then swapped prior to running 1st battery dead. After watching your battery box video, I bought a 3rd matching 50 A Life battery 2 in parallel 3rd to fishfinder and acc's if necessary I can swap to 3rd bat for reserve.
How about a LiTime 12v 100aH mini battery for around 300 dollars
Thank you for making this. I’ve been scared of buying a battery for this project that’s so big that I lose storage in my Bonafide.
A 60AH will run a bow mount trolling motor full throttle for 4hrs. Cut back 20% and you may lose .25mph but you're good for 10hrs. Amped Outdoors is built for saltwater w hardware SS, aluminum... (only 4 cells and they are incased in a metal frame).
"Bat Tree" that's hilarious
😂
Best explanation on this topic that I have heard yet. Thank you.
We might have an updated video coming out soon
Can I run a 100AH battery on a Water Snake T24.Thanks
A Minkota 30 only draws 10-12 amps on the first two settings. 30 amps will easily get you a couple hours of fishing.
i have a 10 ft one man Creek boat plastic not as heavy as a kayak but i run a 30 lb thrust trolling motor and i fish the Cape Fear river and Black river here in South East N.C. my average day is about 8 hrs on the water in current so can i get by with 50ah or 60 ah or should i go with the 80 ah i am on a tight budget and what type of charger would i need i'm sure my battery charger for my lead acid battery wouldn't work i don't know what i need for lithium
Great review and helping me on what size of battery to purchase.
Thanks for the info, very helpful!
I have a 12 volt Minn Kota Endura C2 30lbs thrust and nothing else run off the battery and I mainly fish ponds and lake but I fish all day most days so what size battery should I get I would get the non lithium battery because the lithium batteries are expensive
Look for a group size 27-29 deepcycle. This is what I had available to me in the past on my VibeSeaghost using a 90's minnkota 36lb thrust and furthest I went was around 4.6 miles round trip at 50% thrust. Still had some voltage to spare but was cutting it close to draining the battery too far. I had a small wheelchair battery 30ah 25lbs tucked away just incase. Beware them deepcycles be heavy.
I don’t want to spend over $200 for a battery, have a 10.5 ft fishing kayak. I weigh 150lbs, have a 12V trolling motor. WHAT SHOULD I BUY?!?
How long will a 150 cranking amps lawn mower battery run a 46lb thrust trolling motor
Thanks for the info. I am currently adding a Motorguide Xi3 to my Vibe Shearwater and trying to decide on the right battery.
I was thinking 60ah should be good enough.
By the way, I can appreciate the accent of "batchry"...LOL
Is it okay to run a trolling motor full speed with a lithium battery? I heard it wasn't.
The reason some people say that is because they are running to small of a battery. If you have a 55 lb on a single 50 amp. It’s not good to do it. It burns up the motor board on the battery. Because it’s not made to handle the amp draw. But if you run a 100 amp on a 55 lb you will be fine. It’s built to handle the amp draw.
with regards to the amp draw you mentioned early on in the video.
Does that depend on what gear selection?
My minn kota is a maximum current amp draw of 64A so I presume that's on gear selection 5 which is maximum gear.
My question is what current amp draw would it be on gear selection 1 ?
Yes it’s all on what speed you run. The higher speed will pull more amps. If you run speed one you will run all day no problem. If you run wide open you might run an hour or 1.5 hours depending on battery size
@@OneObjective Ok thanks for your reply much appreciated.
I always carry a spare battery.
Thanks for the info my tm at max pulls 30ah I'm only will use it to get to spots on parksville and back to ramp maybe 15 to 20 min at a time or to get further up the chick and drift back and been trying to figure what size to get and this is the closest to a answer I've found, I have a perception outlaw 11.5.
What motor and lbs of thrust are you using?
@@OneObjective it's a watersnake 30lb thrust very similar to a minn Kota 30lb
I am doing an inflatable saturn HD Triton 12' setup. I have a 6Hp outboard for big moves and then the boat has front mount for a trolling motor that I would use to cruise shorelines. I plan to have a max 5inch finder to power as well. What would you recommend in this setup?
LiTime is a good quality lithium battery.
10” ft sun dolphin kayak with 30 lb thrust minn mota motor what be a good battery setup ?
Hi, would you recomand a 200 Amp LiPo4 battery for a MotorGuide Xi3 55 lbs trust, 36 inch shaft?
I belive would last more on the water than a 100 Amps, but i am not sure.
For a motor guild xi3 55 pound thrust. Would you recommend the 12v 100ah battery?
Yes!! I wouldn’t go under 80amp
I was going to buy 2x 50amp Ampere bstteries to power a NK180S motor. Although i wanted something light and small for my Tandem Kayak, im now thinking 2x 100amp.
Question for you, if i did 4x50amp 12v batteries would that be equivalent to 2x100amp 12v batts or not because of the different size bms systems?
Awesome video. I have been looking into batteries for my trolling motor 36lb thrust. I appreciate the advice.
What battery did you end up getting?
Wish I'd found this before ordering mine. I have an Old Town AP 120, and went with the Amped 60 AH. Don't plan on running wide open unless necessary, but plan to fish some tournaments. Should I be good to go?
You just have manage your battery a little more. It’s harder to make long trips. At higher speeds. But you should be good for getting out and fishing along
I have a Motor guide trolling motor on my kayak with a 30lbs thrust and I'm looking at the one battery that's a 100amp and it's only 25lbs battery I like that But Do you know that if I ever flip the kayak over for just a Very short time like 15-20 Sec Can are will that mess them battery's up The listing is telling me that you can run them on it's side If you ever wanted to I don't But if I flip it it's going upright Can you help me with that answer The Battery look's like it will be the one I need for where I'm fishing "Thanks man"
There is battery boxes specifically built for boats look into that
This was so helpful, but I have a couple specific questions. I got the BKC pk11 and my girl got me the trolling motor for it for Xmas, it recommends the the (TalentCell lifepro 12v 24Ah) model#LF4040. I run few lights, and Helix5, would the battery it recommends work? Or should go with something else? I just fish around lakes no rivers. Thank you for your time and help.
Your going to need a bigger battery. Look at amp draw on motor.
great info cheers
Can you use a car battery
how many hours will 80amp gives you?
What more do you plan to use?
$900 for a 100ah battery is ridiculous for the casual kayak fisherman. Why are they so expensive.
Nah man ampere has 100ah for 329.99 right now
@@goonitunezperformance3155 what brand? Not interested in a cheap knockoff that will catch fire lol. If you get a good quality battery you are paying $$$
@Rybay Do your research bro, you can get 100ah for less than $900 like the PowerQueen and Ampere Time. If you are that scared of your battery catching on fire, then nut up and get a Dakota. I'll just keep fishing with my 150ah hypery I paid 500 bucks for. Only weighs 37lbs, too. I also have a renogy bluetooth 100ah for $500 and a 100ah powerqueen I got for $350. All used for hours going miles across lakes. You don't need $900 for a 100ah LIFEPO4.
@@Rybay Lifepo4 is a much safer chemistry than lithium ion.
I disagree on buying 80 to 100 amp for a kayak without any numbers, that is telling people nothing but that bigger is always better. I made a video explaining amp draw and speed that way people can decide how far and how fast they wanna go ill leave a link here. czcams.com/video/qQi7VZ7BExE/video.html
We have tested smaller battery’s but also have talked with other battery company’s. They highly recommend people running bigger battery with 55amps plus. Or you can buy two smaller battery’s and run them in parallel. But by the time you do that you could have bought one big battery. The issue is the mother board. People are roasting them due to high amp draw. We also recommend a bigger battery so you can run at higher speeds or have extra if you may need it.
@@OneObjective if you use a fish finder 12, 16, 32 amps battery for a trolling motor yes you are going to fry the board but most trolling motor batteries start at 50 amps continously. Now if it was for a bass boat I'd say go for 100 because of the beefier board but for most kayaks I don't think is a big deal considering a good speed of about 4 miles and you are drawing 20 amps so you have planty of amps left. I know because I have one and i have done all these tests. And yes manufactures want you to spend the most possible of course, but like I said the video i made explains everything and people should decide what range and speed they would like to go because on a kayak you can't really go faster than 4.5 mph with a trolling motor.
I will say this. We have roasted two 60 amp battery’s. And we only ran a the motor on it. It’s fine if people want to run what every size they can afford. But the warranty on the big names battery’s aren’t as good as they seam if you burn up two battery’s in short period of time. Been there done that one.
@@OneObjective what brand were these two 60ah batteries that you roasted? 👀
Here is the real math, take your amp draw divide it on your battery amp hour example= 100ahbatt.÷20ampsmotor=5 hour run time ! Welcome, your best bet go with lithium iron phosphate battery forget the dinosaur led acid !