Exploring Israel's Statehood and the Palestinian Refugee Issue: Einat Wilf on Call me Back podcast
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- Join Dan Senor on the Call me Back podcast in a captivating discussion with Dr. Einat Wilf as they unravel the intricate journey towards Israel's statehood and delve into the complexities of the Palestinian refugee issue. Recorded live from Tel Aviv's Startup Nation central headquarters, this interview offers invaluable insights into Israel's struggle for sovereignty, from the euphoria of the 1990s peace process to the harsh realities of Arab rejectionism. Dr. Wilf, a leading expert on Middle Eastern affairs, shares her personal journey from politics to the war of ideas and back, providing a compelling narrative of historical context, including the impact of the Ottoman Empire, British mandates, and the pivotal UN Resolution 181. Additionally, gain a deeper understanding of the Palestinian refugee issue as Dr. Wilf analyzes its origins, political influences, and the role of UNWRA in perpetuating refugee status for generations. Don't miss this enlightening conversation with two distinguished voices in the field. Subscribe now and stay tuned for more engaging discussions on global issues.
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I never heard it so clearly ...i wish more people would understand the connections and development without the distortions and abuse which you hear all over the internet.
Then, you should hear Dr. Ralph Wilde, high-ranking expert lawyer. He knows the law!
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
And you will still have the radical left wingers saying "well, the land was stolen."
This is the most lucid, unbiased description of the situation that I’ve heard. Policy makers the world over need to hear this.
I love Israel, yet for the first time I realise just how much it has cost the Jewish people. ❤ Especially those expelled from the Arab lands.
It's interesting that it is one of the most biased and hypocritical I have ever heard. But, having said that, I would expect that. Case in point ... her complaint that all Palestinians (who don't have a country) are also Unrwa registered, yet Isrealies are Zions and also American citizens. My taxes pay for their lifestyle. (New York especially.) How is that possible?
@@GottaWannaDance Not "UNRWA registered" but "refugees". They are the ONLY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD who pass their refugee status to their descendents.
Anyways, what is biased or hypocritical here? I only hear facts.
Shame on leaders who know this truth for not speaking up and are bowing to evil terrorists!!
Typical the Arabs not happy with anything!!
This is the most comprehensive analysis of the Israel- Palestine issue I have come across till date. Amidst so much misinformation and oversimplification of the origins of this conflict it is getting difficult for many around the world to get a clearer picture of the truth, no matter how complicated.
And this is one of those rare dialogues that attempts to piece together this vexing puzzle in a way that makes some sense. Thanks Dan and Einat..
Bravo Einat. Thank you. The voice we need in these times
This is the best account of the whole problem out there. This woman is amazing.
She's great, but when speaking about the Arabs pre-1964, I wish she would not call them Palestinians. I realize she is using shorthand but it is VERY important for people to understand that the Arabs did not see themselves as "Palestinians" until Yaser Arafat began using it for political purposes.
@@gheller2261
Palestinians have never claimed to be Arab.
Palestinians came from Philistine more than 4.000 years ago.
@@sherronpitts3021Nonsense. Everything you said.
This is a masterclass. The interviewer did an excellent job. It is our obligation to spread this video to as many people as possible.
You are one of the tightest explainers of this absurd reality. More people should hear you.
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
😂😂😂 watch her trying to debate Ilan Pappe, you’ll change your mind !!!
@@trevaudio"suffers from negligence, manipulations and mistakes galore, and the result is not serious research" is how Ilan's work is described by one critic. I've never actually seen him debate anyone but he's an activist with non-consensus views about history.
travaudio is troll, pay him no mind (toll). He just shows up with some random comment and contibutes nothing like 99 percent of the anti-Israel crowd.
@@trevaudiopappe, finkelstein, peled, shalom all do tawriya like the Arabs they brownose so enthusiastically.
A also bought Dr Wilf’s book, The War of Return recently. What a scholar 💙 It should be a part of western educational system’s syllabus.
I must buy that book The War of Return because I found this interview of Dr Wilf an education of the whole history which we never hear in the west.
One of the best books I’ve ever read on this conflict she nails it
I ordered the book, can’t wait to read it. She is brilliant!
This is one of the meatiest, most substantive videos I have ever seen. I can’t thank you enough for having Einat Wilf on. I’m going to buy her book.
The presentation of the conflict to the world by Palestine and Israel is hugely imbalanced and not in Israel’s favour. Israel is waking up to the reality of the Palestinian vision far too late. Even now the understanding is not fully there but at least it’s gradually spreading thanks to thinkers like Einat.
Amazing! What thorough and intelligent analysis of the “conflict”.
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
There was always a Jewish presence in Israel as well as many Arab countries
And? There was no substantial European khazar presence in the Levant.
It's pretty easy to find out how ridiculous what you just said, really is.
@@camg5949 allergic to truth?
@@KateBates22zabuThere is Absolutely NO tie of modern Jews to the Khazars. The Jews have NO Khazar DNA, no Turkic or Turkish DNA.
The Khazar hypothesis has been debunked by history, archeology, linguistics and science (DNA).
it's you avoiding the truth. There are no legitimate modern historians or geneticists who corroborate your theory. Provide a credible source for your claim. There are none.@@KateBates22zabu
I'm a Dutchman who has lived in Norway in 45 years.
If you do a correct study of history, which I also did, you end up with what is said in this podcast. Just that simple❤
Thank you so much for trying to understand our plight. All we really need is an objective presentation of history and present, but we never ever get it.❤
This should be mandatory course in all the schools!!! This is SO IMPORTANT for everyone to know. Brilliant summary of the history, Einat!!! 👏👏👏
General Principles of International Law:Customary international law and the principles of jus ad bellum (the right to war) and jus in bello (law in war) dictate that while a state has the right to defend itself, this right does not extend to permanently acquiring territory through defensive measures. The use of force is strictly for defense and not for territorial gain.
This was so great. I've seen her a few times before, and I really like her style...just cut to the chase with actual FACTS!
Reading The War of Return now. It embellishes with so much fact & detail the central core of the conflict that is her premiss. I love listening to Dr. Einat Wilf speak. She is definitely one of my heros!!!
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
Are you sure you want to say she "embellishes" history?
This should be taught EVERYWHERE. Especially in the American universities.
But those facts don't support the Palestinian narrative 🤦♀️
Yes, students in the US need to learn about the American EMPIRE and why they have over 800 military bases throughout the world and spend $800 million a year on their war machine.
Absolutly brilliant. A video to be shared non stop. Articulate and so easy to understand. Thank you DrEinat Wilf.
I truly admire this remarkable woman and watch all her media appearances. She really brings a much needed clarity to understanding this conflict.
I so much admire Dr. Einat for her work and experience, the quote that best applies here is from Georges Orwell : Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
AIPAC controls the narrative in USA.
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
The Palestinian Delusion book by Robert Spencer is another great book on this conflict.
@@Aijan100 where is my comment? Censorship suuxxx
@@Aijan100
I agree.
I read it few months ago, and it’s very insightful.
A fascinating podcast that should be taught by many educational systems in the West and to hear the simple facts about the conflict while the West does not really know or is not interested in knowing what the conflict is about and relies on lies and incitement.
The truth is very simple.
Regarding Dr. Einat Wilf. In my opinion, she should take a very significant part in the leadership and lead the State of Israel for years to come.
Share this video! It's the clearest, easy to understand explanation of the reason and motives. Great educational piece for those who know the history in general, and those who know nothing, but still have an opinion. Will definitely get the new book! It is most likely outstanding, and as deep analysis as ' The war of return"! Thank you! Love from Canada! ❤🇮🇱
Oh, I thought there was a new book by Dr. Wilf!
The book you want is by a true Jewish Historian, Ilan Pappe, called Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine.
@@gordonmurray2477
Why would you want to waste your time on a self-hating Jew book, who acknowledge that he bend the facts to fit in to his ideological stance.
Instead there is Palestinian delusion by Robert Spencer. There’s Lyn Julius’s Uprooted: How 3000 years of Jewish civilisation in the Arab world vanished overnight. It tells you how Jews were cleansed from Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Yemen, Morocco etc. About 700,000 Jews were cleansed out and some killed in the process.
What a spectacular and articulate woman, I could listen to her for days!
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
Einat - THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for saying it all so clearly. Stay Loud! It felt great hearing your positive vibe you said at the end with the Arabs realizing, "Oh, here are these people (the Jews) who are also descendants of Abraham and they are our cousins and they are from this land. Let us embrace their presence." (so to speak). I get that same message recently from Haviv Rettig Gur on a Lecture he gave about "The Great Misinterpretation - How Palestinians came to view Israel as a colonial settler movement" on the youtube channel Shalem college. It actually left me hopeful in the midst of all this pain. I've also found Yishai Fleisher very helpful in seeing the possibility for a good future for Israel and it's neighbors living in the land - prospering together. So, as a Jewish American, who has lived in Israel, I thank all of you for your strength and teachings!!! Keep 'em coming. Stay Loud. Shalom u m'vorach
This is the best explanation I have ever heard!
You would like to read for the real historian Ilan Peppe great books
Ilan Pappe is a clown.
Great history lesson as always.
גאונה. אין מילים להערכה כלפייך.
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
@@cathyontong5324 Durie
I so appreciate Einat Wilf, your voice. I am a convert to Judaism, pray in Hebrew Yom v'Yom. I have always had Israeli friends. They are special, sunny, and warm people. No one else like them.
Also, I was on a bus sitting next to a Turkish student last week, and despite his ponytail, his descriptions of how he doesn't feel he fits his Turkish parents' expectations, he "doesn't like Jews" and he heard this attitude from his parents. He is on a student program of Turkish students to American universities. They don't do any discussions of the antiSemitism.
@genTranswidowHeals US immigration is a mess ,like much of the west. The lack of vetting of even legal immigrants, let alone the illegal, is truly non existent.
Personally, I think anyone immigrating to a country should have to spend 2 years actually going to classes learning about the culture, the language, and also a more overt integration process.
I love mot of my Turkish neighbors, really. Most are from Istanbul, understand that they are mostly Turkified, Izlamized Greeks, Bulgarians, ,Kurds,Armenians, Albanians and so on, and are largely secular. But there is always the orthodox enclave unfortunately as well. I wish my Yemeni and Syrian neighbors were as "westernized" as my Turkish neighbors haha.
@@jessereichbach588 may I ask where did you emigrated from?
@r6io5xb9eOh no, native to US. Born and raised.Great grandparents came from Austria, Italy, Poland and Croatia, And their kids and grand kids for the most part, married people from other places as you an see lol. in the late 19th and early 20th century. When they actually HAD to integrate and at least learn the language. I just think our entire system needs a massive overhaul. Immigration should be a relatively lengthy process. Seeking asylum is a bit different. But even after you are accepted for asylum, i think there needs to be a cultural education and integration PROCESS> Not just throw them out into society and have them more likely be influenced negatively towards the society that just took them in. That to me shows an irresponsibility by the immigration/asylum departments, towards b0oth the individual immigrating and the home nation thats bringing them in.
Are the Palestinians guilty because they received the Jews after World War II... and gave them security and gave them food, drink and housing... and after that the Jews, with Britain’s help, occupy seventy-five percent of the land of Palestine and kill the Palestinians and expel them from their land. Is this justice... and recently a war? Genocide against them... Where is justice and human rights?
This is a pretty comprehensive explanation of the Arab Israeli conflict but it just boggles my mind how former leftists who literally have blood on their hands just calmly state that they weren't being rational when they supported the Oslo accords but they have come around to actually listening to the intentions of the Arabs....... It is so frustrating and heartbreaking that there has been such loss of life and so much devastation to the Jewish people because leftists in Israel were committed to suicidal policies. Rabbi Meira Kahane was labelled as a right wing extremist and was maligned throughout his life and even in his death but clearly he was right all along. If only he was listened to October 7th would have remained as a vile Arab fantasy.
I agree. On the one hand, I am glad to see someone awaken to their own misunderstanding. While on the other hand, we never embrace those who have been shouting from the rooftop all along. I guess it has always been thus: we kill our prophets.
Nobody was hold responsible for Oslo
I am a history/ ancient history major and Hungarian in origin so I have an excellent understanding of this unfortunate and crazy glitch, or was it? Just from Hungary we lost 457 thousand Israelite sisters and brothers to Hitler demonic genocide, almost equally the same was hidden by good people all over in the country. Each of the sorounding countries were on the same scale. The Oslo agreement was nothing but a small peace of carrots that Jewish people went for in desperation. What a betrayal. They put them in a situation That guaranteed nothing but trouble and slow genocide. I also have a good understanding of both old and New Testament. In correct times, right now the State of Israel must go to court also to The Hague and demand by the all the historical and archeological proofs, papers, Testemonial under pinning to officially change the borders of the State. Most people in this world have no idea of anything you said here. Or just simply ignoring it. Personally I cringe every time I hear the word Palestine and wishing Hadrian Roman Emperor to hell where I am certain he is now. By their genetic marker the people who occupy Gaza for now are Arab, Jordanian, Phillies way back Greek and some Jewish. Mostly Arab and Jordanian. Restore the God given land for Israel to their rightful owners to the Israelites. That covenant will stand up sooner or later. I rather see it NOW🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻♥️♥️♥️🌈🌈🌈
Now they say the occupation started 75 years ago in 1948 not 57 years ago in 1967. They now make that perfectly clear.
Nope. Because she’s skipped the very beginning actually. For instance, Ottomans were already resettling many Russian Jews whose expelled from Russia in Ottoman Palestine, despite the restrictions, in 1800s just like many other parts of their empire. It’s was before Theodor Herzl’s offer to buy a land for Jews.
@@user-vr6io5xb9e Are the Palestinians guilty because they received the Jews after World War II... and gave them security and gave them food, drink and housing... and after that the Jews, with Britain’s help, occupy seventy-five percent of the land of Palestine and kill the Palestinians and expel them from their land. Is this justice... and recently a war? Genocide against them... Where is justice and human rights?
@@user-vr6io5xb9eWRONG!!! When do you think this happened?
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
@@user-vr6io5xb9e no ,Russians WERE NOT resettling Jews to Palestine;The Zionists started the movement of Jewish return to Palestine,later Rothschilds started funding the whole returning movement.aftrer British established the Palestinian Mandate at the end of WWI.No matter what jews will tell you the problems really started when after WWII ,through UN ,the Israeli state was established and the Jews from diaspora organized military takeover ,forcibly expelling natives(Palestinians).What Wilf is saying is repeating the old absurd jewish story ,god gave them the land;wherever they were dispersed.
This podcast is pure gold. NEEDS TO BE HEARD.
Brilliant and beautiful!
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
Thank you so much for this important video. This has been the best historical analysis of the modern history of "Palestine" in the last 100 years. I have been spending far too much time writing comments on CZcams, so I'll keep this brief. I see a lot of "Free Palestine" or "End the Israeli Genocide" and it just makes me sad because of the falsehoods that are implied, and yet people are loving this cause and eagerly run into the streets of Chicago and New York and elsewhere to chant "Free Palestine from the River to the Sea!" This is of course a call to eradicate Israel with some friendly sounding words. These people are either products of poor parenting, poor education, or poor peer pressure. Perhaps it is all of the above, and the sad thing is I do not think education will solve this problem. People just refuse to see objective truths and only want to believe in their own "bubble narratives," (isolated narratives or monologues) as I call it. What can we do to help people see the reality in "Palestine"?
@joshua like you I have spent far too much time writing comments on CZcams. It’s like trying to hold back a tsunami.
Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
Ah, yes! Thank you! You understand! Haha greetings to you, too, from Colorado, US! @@1DaTJo
@@joshuafrank4643 yes I do! Best wishes to you 🙏🏻
@@joshuafrank4643 Colorado is beautiful
Yes, it's very nice. I've been to Melbourne and Queensland once a long time, and I loved it. I want to go back one day!@@1DaTJo
Einat gets my vote for Israel’s next primeminster, have no idea how Iayir Lapid got the leadership of Yesh Atid and Einat was out . Just putting this dream out there …
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
Right, such a clever person would have my vote !
Dr Wilf is at her finest, a pleasure to listen to her. The man interviewing her is stuttering, stumbling and fumbling looking for words, why can't he just spit it out, he is putting me to sleep. This interview could have been ten minutes shorter if he didn't hesitate so much.
I was recently in hospital in a room for three days with a man who lived in Jerusalem as a ten year old boy.
He relived his experiences helping soldiers to get to certain areas, only the kids knew the back alleys, over the roof tops. It all came back to him, he had the same passion for telling me his experiences.
Just the way Dr Wilf is explaining it to the world.
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
Just want to add to my comment that I found Dr Einat’s explanation of UNWRA so enlightening! I hadn’t realised what it actually was and how it worked.
Good video, and thanks to the interviewer for letting Dr. Wilf talk without interruption.
Dr. Wilf, this is the best take on the conflict I've heard so far. I arrived at the same conclusion you did at the end, but then furthermore it would seem the future is brighter for us in the Abraham Accords states than even in the West. I.e. I suspect the antisemitism in the West will more or less stay high, but Iran is going to have a damn revolution.
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I read the “War of return” recently and recommended it to all my friends. We have to spread the truth about this conflict, and Dr. Wilf is doing it brilliantly. I totally agree that the story has to start with the fall of the Ottoman Empire, I understood so much when I read “The fall of the Ottomans”, but nobody reads long history books anymore, so much easier to just chant slogans. So thank you Dr. Wilf for all your hard work! You explain this complex situation in simple and straightforward ways, leaving no room for misinterpretation.
I lost all the compassion, sympathy , empathy and the likes , that I had for the Palestinians when they started the second Intifada after they had deliberately caused the 2000 Camp David peace talks to fail. THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT THEY DID. Israel has always been in a catch-22 situation with them. I fully agree with all that Dr. Wilf is saying. She articulates exactly what I think.
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
@@cathyontong5324, If I can add yet another book here, I highly recommend "The Closed Circle: An Interpretation of the Arabs" by David Pryce-Jones.
100 years war, Prof. Rashid Khalidi
For me, the Second Intifada was the darkest period of living in Israel. It's just crazy to me that there are people in the streets of London screaming for "Intifada".
@@Linoy-tm8no what about the 1st intifada? An what does intifada mean?
Wow! This is the most concise, intelligent, and logical cover of the history of the State of Israel and the Arab Israeli conflict I've ever heard! Thank you!
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
They are all lies of the israeli propaganda. Of course nobody wants a foreign state on one's territory.
Anybody that lived in israel in the 90s knows how for a decade israel really wanted and tried to make peace with the Palestinians. Its ridiculous to see them now calling ' end the occupation ' when they themselves chose to keep it going 🤷♂️
"Israel really wanted" means an unstable Israeli coalition government, under some US prodding, was leaning towards wanting peace with the Palestinians. There was another unstable coalition of Israeli parties, immune to any US prodding, always ready to pursue total victory over the Palestinians. The Palestinians knew this, so they were right to withhold their agreement to proposals that would ultimately be repudiated by another government seeking total victory. And now Netenyahu leads, total victory is the aim, and the sack of Gaza proceeds.
The occupied have no obligation to give up more to the occupiers. The occupation is and always has been illegal.
@allace41
You are right of course. But what to do now?
Palestinians suffer, fight, and die for their rightful cause. Meanwhile, outsiders can usefully analyse and understand the ideology of Zionism.
So far, only a few comic artists on CZcams are beginning to present and satirise Zionism as a mesmerising ideology, seductive of Jews and Gentiles alike. But as the sack of Gaza proceeds, the mindless cruelty of Zionism alienates the essential support of outside "fellow travellers", and Zionism dies. (Think Solzhenitsin and Communism)
And with the death of Zionism, all Jews become liberated to pursue their eternal world-wide identity, free from a deadly ideology and the psychological mind games of hasbara. And Palestine is Free!
@@dodiewallace41 Not according to UN Resolution 181 in 1947.
@doyle4349 The "sack of Gaza" began with Hamas in 2005... 🙄The Arabs of Judea, Samaria and Gaza just can't take Yes for an answer. Fact: Arabs who live in a place that used to be called 'Palestine' -- except the 2 million Arabs who live in peace, security and relative prosperity in Israel -- are actually all Jordanian citizens, which was the state created for those Arabs who did not want to live in Israel. Another fact: Most of the Arabs in the area were imported as labor in the 19th and 20th centuries CE, and when marauding Muslim Arabs arrived in the 6th century CE, they found Jews who had been there for 2000 years or more. Fact: When Jordan conquered East Jerusalem in 1948 -- after half-starving the Jewish population there -- they promptly expelled all the Jews. At the 2000 Camp David summit President Clinton brought Israeli PM Ehud Barak and Yasser Arafat together. Arafat was offered 95% of what the the Arabs of Judea, Samaria and Gaza supposedly wanted. Barak said later: ”Arafat didn't come to negotiate, he came to say no. Everything was no, no, no.” At one point, a frustrated Clinton slammed his fist on the table and said to Arafat: "You're condemning your people to a catastrophe!" And he had. When Arafat left the summit, he declared an Intifada that lasted three years and killed more than 3000 Arabs. The 'Palestinians' don't want peace, they don't want a two-state solution -- they don't want a two-state solution -- they want to destroy Israel and eradicate the Jews. In addition, they cause destabilization and violence wherever they go -- Jordan and Lebanon are proof of that. it is Arabs who are the occupiers and usurpers.
I enjoyed listening to you explain the conflict in such clear and straightforward terms. Thank you 🙏
Of course they want Israel, look of what was created in 75 years by the jewish people and the quality of life for all their people. All colours and Religions living together in a prozess to overcome differences and learning from each other.
American dollar does wonders
Are the Palestinians guilty because they received the Jews after World War II... and gave them security and gave them food, drink and housing... and after that the Jews, with Britain’s help, occupy seventy-five percent of the land of Palestine and kill the Palestinians and expel them from their land. Is this justice... and recently a war? Genocide against them... Where is justice and human rights?
@@mimitek6140 palestine would have gotten a lot of those , mind the difference
@@yehudithyakobson9325your racism is showing
@@mimitek6140Israel doesn't get American Dollars. They did Not receive ANY aid from America until 1973, and Israel receives CREDITS for use on Military goods, then Israel acts as Research and Development for the Americans and uses the American military goods in real life situations.
Thank very much for super detailed explanation about this Palestinian occupation madness. I have learnt a lot.
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
she speaks very clear..
A brilliant conversation! Thank you for this podcast. For those who don't know- it's called Call Me Back.
Brilliant as always
Best interview as yet
Einat is an amazing teacher. She’s one of the greats in this world. I hope her words help to change people’s minds and point them to reality and to do what is right and what is needed.
Brilliant woman.
The most lucid and detailed explanation of this conflict which is unique in its nature. No other state in the world has ever had to deal with as violent, stubborn and irrational nemesis as Arabs. By the exception for Hitler perhaps. Same metaphysical hatred of Jews, same scale of violence and completely made up mystical ideology.
Brilliant conversation. Fascinating listening to her historical knowledge.!!!!!
This lady makes so much sense.
Dr Wilf, you're amazing! I've learned more from this interview than all the many excelent books I've read or lectures I've attended. You lay this out so well. Though I'm not Jewish, I've been an unapologetic supporter of Isreal my whole life. Irreversible loyalties notwithstanding, there's always been elements of post WWII history I couldn't resolve. I no longer have that problem.
In the early 1950’s, my father, a Chassid, lived in Chicago and he was traveling somewhere by bus, and he was asked by the bus driver if he was going to Palestine! My father thought that the driver was making fun of him for his Chassidic dress, and told him to go to Palestine, the land of the Jews, but then afterwards when there was a bus stop at Palestine, Illinois, he understood!
One of the best clear explanations of the Israel Palestinian conflict I have ever heard. You need to contact the free press and Bari Weiss and the daily wire and Ben Shapiro to reach a wider audience as most western nations do not really understand the conflict since the Ottoman empire to the present. Congratulations on an excellent presentation.
We constantly hear a negative answer from Hamas to Israel, regarding a proposal for a ceasefire. There is no progress, this is the sentence that is repeated. On the other side, the World (and also in the US unfortunately) there is criticism specifically of Israel, because of the situation of the residents of Gaza. A situation that, of course, stems from the conduct of Hamas, who is ready to sacrifice all the residents of Gaza, for his goal: the destruction of Israel.
The world must understand the meaning of Hamas's refusal to deal with hostages, they still stick, totally, to their only goal: the destruction of Israel. Therefore, there can be no progress, unless Israel goes towards Hamas, and agrees to commit suicide…
The world must understand that the things that are happening in Gaza, are exactly what Israel warned Hamas they would do, and were meant to signal to all of our enemies that this is what will happen to them, if they dare to commit the crimes they are planning against Israel.
There is no criminal intent on the part of Israel to harm civilians, but such an intent on the part of our enemies, who see this harm as their strongest weapon.
The rage that these images arouse in the world, against Israel, are the strongest weapon of our enemies, all of their hope that Israel will be destroyed. And indeed Israel's new holocaust, may actually happen not at the hands of its enemies, which Israel can do to them, but because of the world's anti-Semitism, which sees the Jews as the cause of all evil that exists in the world.
Thank you for inviting Einat to your podcast. I learned a lot including whose side I should take!
Why Turjey doesnt take immigrants? The start will be their own citizens and then the palestiniens, the lybiens, the lebanese. That will be un nice start, but instead he gives lesson to Israel. Why those arabs countries dont take their moslems brothers? The moslem
world should start to question their responsability
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
I'm glad someone understands this. My grandfather was in ww1 .General, who was a Turkish General who was from Ramallah who was in Hitler military. Now, the same military base is where Yasser Arafat set up his headquarters. Even Yasser Arafat admitted that Israel had the right to exist.
Hitler military and ww1? I think you’re confused
@user-vr6io5xb9e He was in ww1 and went to severe Hitler in ww2. He was from ramallah, which would have been Syria in the Ottoman empire.
@@user-mt7uk6xn4e Are the Palestinians guilty because they received the Jews after World War II... and gave them security and gave them food, drink and housing... and after that the Jews, with Britain’s help, occupy seventy-five percent of the land of Palestine and kill the Palestinians and expel them from their land. Is this justice... and recently a war? Genocide against them... Where is justice and human rights?
@@user-mt7uk6xn4ethank you for the clarification. Yes, there were deep ties between the Arabs and Nazis at the highest levels.
If he didn't walk away from the talks with Ehud Barak, maybe they would have state today and would have spend their times in other things than terror..
If only every other person with even the slightest interest in the subject could hear this
This should become a common knowledge for the world.
Einat Wilf for PM!
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Women knows her FACTS!!!👍👏👏👏👏
What facts? This is only her own version of history. It's people like her who have twisted the real truth hence the conflict. She comes out with her narrative soon after Ralph Wilde who gave at the ICJ exposed the real truth to the whole world about the illegitimacy of the birth of the Jewish state. These lies have cost the Palestinians decades of oppression and lost lives. The Palestinians were the once who were taken for a ride - and what a ride!!
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
I learned so much watching this. Thank you!
Izealis need to RECLAIM the identity of "Palestinin" as what it is, a REGIONAL identity that belongs to Hebrews the Yehudim and Samaritan, Druze and the majority of Pal Christians, but only a minority of the Mozlems, as 65% of their ancestors were NON indigenous foreigners from places like Egypt, Iraq, Bosnia, Albania, who colonized Pstine between 1850 and 1945. . Prior to 1948 every single Hebrew in Mandatory was just as much Palestinin as any Egyptian in Hevron. They and the Samaritan including many of their Christian counterparts, were the original Palestinins until the Aravah COLONIZED the region like they did 1/3 of the old world. If "Palestinin" is going to be used to refer to the "indigenous" population, and if that is going to mean anyone within the territory traditionally called "Pstine" since the 2nd century AD (syria Palestina), then every SINGLE Yizriyali (excuse the algoninjas, censors) is as Palestinin. And Yizriyale is in the territory of Pstine, the REGION. Which is ALL it ever was.
This is the only way to reform the identity of "Palestinin" which was APPROPRIATED by the Aravah in 1964 with the openly jean oh sidal PLO charter, and turned into an Aravah supremcist, Izlamofashist Nasi ideological movement masquerading as an ethnonational movement,created for the sole purpose of destroying the legally created sovereign nation of Yizriale, Yizriale, which is the single greatest INDIGENOUS DECOLONIZATION process in human history.
Zuheir Mohsen (1936 - 25 July 1979) was a Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979.
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
James Dorsey, Wij zijn alleen Palestijn om politieke reden, Trouw, 31 March 1977:
Many old Israelis have a passport written birthcountry is Palestina
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
@@yehudithyakobson9325 Yup. THAT needs to be promoted BY Izreal. The world needs to hear this, because right now too many morons think modern falistineens are the inheritors of the "Philitine" cultural heritage . 🤣😂
Einat for Prime Minister! ❤🎉
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I've watched several conversations with Einat Wilf, and I agree with her 100%. She makes some brilliant points, crucial to the understanding of this mess. But I'm missing one important thing: a discussion about Islam. The core reason that a Jewish state in the eyes of the Arabs cannot be allowed to exist is... Islam!
This is from “Startup Nation Central” so they can’t state the obvious because the Muslims who live in Israel are sensitive to their idiot compatriots. It’s really a shame that Israel invites its mortal enemies to live with them. 🤮
This conflict will never resolve until Israel wakes up to reality. The US and Islam are its biggest enemies. We have to stop tiptoeing around these facts!
I was also wondering why she doesn’t mention this. It could be that she doesn’t want to admit to herself that Islam is at the core of the Muslim’s hatred of Israel. She still has hopes for peace, however slight. This would be impossible were she to come to terms with Islam. For she knows Islam is going nowhere. But I think she’s brilliant. Sorry it took her this long to embrace the perspective of other Israelis who have been maligned by the peacenics in Israel for always believing what she has come to see as a harsh reality: Arabs hate Jews and want them dead.
Fantastic Interview! Dan Senor delivers a masterful interview of Einat Wilf here, basically leading her through a reveal of what is in the book she co-wrote with Adi Schwartz, called “The War of Return”. He only interjects a few times, and only to define something she mentioned further; never derailing her train of thought. Even if you’ve already read the book, you will benefit from hearing what Anat has to say. If, like me, you’ve read the book after October 7th, this interview adds what could be considered, the current revision to the book that the authors have yet to publish.
Anat Wilf: you are a queen!
Anyone interested in learning more of what Dr Wilf is saying and the Quran and subsequent interpretations and what makes Islam sooooo very different from the west should read "THE THIRD CHOICE" by MARK DURY. Its really eye-opening and at the same time opens one's heart to the muslim peoples of the world.♥♥♥
No thank you.
She's a scholar. She should be in charge of Harvard. Just kidding. She's better than that.
I hope Israel lays claim to the Gaza Strip. The IDF has won it fair and square and every city should be renamed, perhaps each hostage gets a city named in their honour. The world needs to recognise the impressive resilience of Israel and the Jewish people. For 76 years, the Arabs have refused the partition of land -- time has come for them to find new homes elsewhere. From the river to the sea, ISRAEL will be free. Sadly, this is the only way to PEACE.
Amen. 🙏🏼
Einat Wilf is awesome. She speaks the truth with outstanding erudition and clarity of mind.
Thank you both, Einat and Dan for broadcasting this podcast. Short and precise clarity on highlighting some very important historical determinants from decline of empires to the modern nation state of Israel. To the current tragic state of affairs in the levant the roles, causes and perpetuating narratives by many international and local stakeholders, arab colonialism,role of cultural and social constructed identities,cult of personality ,competing religious ideologies to the endlessly repackaging war and blood sacrifice under unwra label hijacking peaceful coexistence in the region.
Wonderful interview and discussion
Thank You for this
I would love to see her, and some other Israeli's, that know this history, go on some of the main stream media and explain this everyday for one year.
Don't see how there can ever be a two state solution when one side is continually saying they want to completely destroy the other side.
Dr. Einat, your explanation is very informative, and I would argue with anyone who is interested in understanding the conflict in the Canaan land. Listen to this and read the book "The War of Return" by Dr. Einat.
For anyone who tried exploring the history of middle east and especially palastine, this women's explanation will confirm everything!!
Excellent, need to hear more of you.
100% agree to Einat Wilf!
Einat should create the Palestinian High School Curriculum.
Yes as they are only fed lies!!
And how would that help? Seriously!
The new migrates to Europe (Of places I am not going to name) are having the exact same curriculum as the immigrants from other countries and the locals, yet one can tell the difference. I stipulate that while having a bad curriculum is bad, a good one won't be sufficient, not by a long shot.
The world must hear you and Israel needs to stand strong on their ancient rights.
So good!
The world needs to watch this 👏👏👏👏
What a woman, souvereign, forward, well-read, educated. Why is it that I like these people that are like her, more just because they are educated.
I am sending this to all my friends who enjoy thinking and learning and setting aside assumptions.
Good exchange.Ben Gurion though understood the “ shock “ massive Jewish immigration would bring to the Arab population. Muslim chauvinism is a big part of the picture. No Jewish sovereignty could be contemplated
Are the Palestinians guilty because they received the Jews after World War II... and gave them security and gave them food, drink and housing... and after that the Jews, with Britain’s help, occupy seventy-five percent of the land of Palestine and kill the Palestinians and expel them from their land. Is this justice... and recently a war? Genocide against them... Where is justice and human rights?
This is well done. Dan Senor is really good at conducting an interview for the purpose of eliciting informational responses.
It's funny because that was the conclusion I reached after having listened to western educated, well-spoken Palestinian activists such as Rafeef Ziadah: When they talk about occupation and apartheid etc. they don't just mean the so-called occupied territories but the state of Israel proper; they are pushing their narrative of the zionists being foreign - Rafeef Ziadah even said in one of her spoken word pieces that "their gods [sic!] promised them our land" -, they say Israel is some kind of colonizer like the British or the French empires, completely ignoring basic facts of jewish immigration to Israel. And now they have dragged on that narrative for so long, they cannot let go of it, and any peace with Israel would seem like a betrayal and a failure to them. The only chance for peace would be if the Palestinians stopped nurturing their grudge and hatred against Israel, but I'm afraid this is not going to happen any time soon.
I have to buy her book. She is amazing! Thanks a lot for an amazing explanation. ❤
Thank you, most informative
What a great talk! Dr Einat clarified so many issues. Just a couple of comments - my understanding of the reason behind Arab violence that started during the British mandate was the refusal of the Arabs to be ruled by infidels or non-Muslims. That they wanted to return to be part of the Syrian/palestine province under Moslem rule.
Also, I wish more had been made of the fact that the Palestine promised as the Jewish state included Jordan. The Palestinians were given a 2 state solution in 1937 or
Certainly, re Transjordan. But according to other sources, it seems that the anti Jewish incitement came from the top (landowners, the mufti, etc.). I’ll be interested to see what Einat says about this in her books.
So would I - I love the clarity of her explanations. I agree with you about those responsible for the incitement and I wonder if Dt Einat agrees that the bottom line, the reason the Arabs won’t tolerate a Jewish state is religious. They won’t tolerate a non- Muslim entity in what they consider to be theirs by right of having invaded and lived there for 409 yrs.
Wow Ainat you are talking the next level , first time I understand what is really behind all of this , to look at history is monumental , incredible important . I’m Atheist yes you are this protects us to follow antique ideas
Congrats to this woman!!
She explained it very well!!
This is an excellent overview of what might be called the Hundrrd Years War 1923 - 2023. A few pictures and
maps might be helpful...Interesting : Winston Churchill was Colonial Secretary at the time of the creation of TransJordan...1922 I think...
Yes. Much as I appreciate Churchill I’m pretty sure he is the one who gave 80% of the Jewish homeland to Hussein of Mecca to create Transjordan.
What they did on October 7th, 2023 is no different than in 1921 / 20s and 30s / 40s.
Y’all committed the nakba so what’s your point
The Arab countries; Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Pakistan, Jordan, etc robbed and forced 850,000 Jews to flee; 600,000 to Israel and 250,000 to the West. The Jewish Naqba. What is your point?
@@semsemeini7905 you are committing the N4qkba against them right now, troll. For someone who claims to be victim of most horrific atrocities, you commit them and justify so instinctively, against children of all people, including H@m-s. We all know about your g3n9zidal state.
@@semsemeini7905 it’s an odd phenomenon for the two most racist white nationalist countries to oppose permanent ceasefire in the name of democracy, get real. You guys insist on fighting cuz your only leverage is your weaponry yet it achieves no military objectives or hostage rescue whatsoever. Sounds like state terrorism to me.
Solid truth. I was worried in the 90’s that Israel would give away the cookie jar and the cookies. I was so glad that Yasser never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Thrilling !!!!!
This is the most insightful analysis and, thankfully, a clear timeline of how we got to where we are today that I have ever seen on any political topic ever.
It was also marvelous to learn the legal definition of a refugee and how you can no longer be a refugee if you are living in a state that grants you citizenship and, also, you cannot be a refugee if you are the ones who started a war, lost, and are now running away after losing. Also, a refugee status is not something that can passed from generation to generation. Only people living in Palestine which includes Gaza and the West Bank have said that their own citizens are refugees. This is pure delusion.
There are many other amazing facts contained within this video. Such as the number of Palestinian claiming refugee status keeps growing because descendants are included. They are the only group of refugees who do this because it is not recognized as the legal way to do it anywhere else.