Why KLM Said “GOODBYE” To B737 And Turned To A321neo

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024

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  • @BiswasShrestha-cd5tr
    @BiswasShrestha-cd5tr Před měsícem +114

    In 25 years, Boeing will be similar to Lockheed Martin.

    • @William2512
      @William2512 Před měsícem +1

      In what way .

    • @paulpaulsen7777
      @paulpaulsen7777 Před měsícem

      Who is Lockheed Martin?

    • @paulpaulsen7777
      @paulpaulsen7777 Před měsícem

      Brother from Steve Martin??

    • @p6x2
      @p6x2 Před měsícem +13

      It is difficult to forecast how long it is going to take to Boeing to recover from these catastrophic events. One key factor though, is that Airbus alone cannot manufacture enough planes to satisfy the demand. I am guessing this is what saved Boeing from failing.

    • @paulpaulsen7777
      @paulpaulsen7777 Před měsícem

      @@p6x2 saved from failing???????

  • @sequoyayosemite2771
    @sequoyayosemite2771 Před měsícem +70

    KLM has been a faithful Boeing customer for decades
    I am happy to know that KLM made a pragmatic decision
    And decided to move to the A-320 neo family

  • @Mriya225
    @Mriya225 Před měsícem +38

    Underrated channel ngl, bullshit youtube algorithm video should be up there with DJs aviation. Keep up the good work Aviaat

    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  Před měsícem +5

      Thanks! Really glad you're enjoying the videos.

    • @SayAnytime
      @SayAnytime Před měsícem +12

      IMO DJs Aviation is a bullshit channel too. A catchy title and 10 min of talking in a loop.
      My preference goes to Simple flying

    • @Celestial_Arishem
      @Celestial_Arishem Před měsícem

      ​@@SayAnytime me too, simple flying

    • @Mriya225
      @Mriya225 Před měsícem

      @@SayAnytime Yea, thats a fair point.

  • @SeverityOne
    @SeverityOne Před měsícem +11

    The noise aspect cannot be underestimated. Schiphol, KLM's base, has a very big noise problem. It's Europe's fourth busiest airport in terms of passenger numbers. More people fly via Schiphol than via Frankfurt. But the Netherlands is also one of the most densely populated countries in Europe (not _the_ most densely populated, not by a long shot, despite what some Dutch like to think).
    The government has had a, shall we say, flexible approach towards the noise pollution from Schiphol, because money. But there's a lot of pressure, including court cases, to comply with environmental laws. So the plan was hatched to drastically reduce the number of flights. That's when the Americans chipped in, and told the Dutch in no uncertain terms that this would lead to them losing landing rights in the USA, on the oh so profitable transatlantic route.
    50% less noise is a no-brainer.

  • @speedbrake22
    @speedbrake22 Před měsícem +2

    It's AirFrance/KLM, so that french connection might have played a major role too, but KLM was kind of disappointed with the quality of their 787s too when they got them.

  • @CivilStig
    @CivilStig Před měsícem +6

    2:31 'neo' in the first place stands for 'new engine option', but I'm sure it also coincided nicely with the regular meaning of the word neo.

    • @stonew1927
      @stonew1927 Před měsícem +1

      Interesting factoid. Thank you! :)

  • @Turbofanstudiosunofficial
    @Turbofanstudiosunofficial Před měsícem +3

    This channel is unbelievably underrated, I love all the info I’m getting on the a321neo and XLR. Definitely subscribing!

    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  Před měsícem

      Thanks, appreciate that.

  • @Alfius_
    @Alfius_ Před měsícem +2

    For people with adhd: 737 go boom and a320 neo don’t go boom.

  • @emiellius
    @emiellius Před měsícem +2

    I was here at 300 subs! Great video mate

  • @Avgeek1123
    @Avgeek1123 Před měsícem +5

    Very Good video!❤❤ Underated channel i subscribesd! have a great day and keep it up! ❤❤

    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  Před měsícem +2

      Thanks you! Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @Avgeek1123
      @Avgeek1123 Před měsícem

      @@Aviaat1 I think ur cotent is so good u deserve like 1mil subs

  • @greannysmith
    @greannysmith Před měsícem +3

    You gotta have a lot of guts to say that Boeing has "tackled and solved" their issue's

  • @busfan9874
    @busfan9874 Před 21 dnem

    KLM has the last 737-800 ever built however. It was built in 2019. Registration is PH-BCL

  • @edv.fernandez6241
    @edv.fernandez6241 Před měsícem +13

    KLM is also transitioning from the Booeing 787 to Airbus A350. Initially, KLM was going to fly the A350 with Air France primarily flying the 787. Then, 787s went to KLM with all A350s going to Air France. Now, KLM will replace the 787 with A350. Air France might continue to fly both. We will all see

    • @jeromeprins6164
      @jeromeprins6164 Před měsícem +1

      Klm is not replacing the A350 for the 787. The are replacements for the old 777-200 and A 330.

    • @edv.fernandez6241
      @edv.fernandez6241 Před měsícem

      Thank you

    • @rtbrtb_dutchy4183
      @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Před měsícem

      @@jeromeprins6164you sorta said that backwards.

    • @jeromeprins6164
      @jeromeprins6164 Před měsícem

      J​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183I kinda did , but you got what I was saying😂

    • @rtbrtb_dutchy4183
      @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Před měsícem

      @@jeromeprins6164 yes I did. But I had to read it a few times 🤣🤣

  • @theGoogol
    @theGoogol Před měsícem

    The way America treats ASML I'm not at all surprised more and more Dutch companies are avoiding dealing with Americans. Imagine Boeing saying where we can and can't fly.

  • @AmonakGhde
    @AmonakGhde Před měsícem +2

    What the music 0:01

  • @christainmarks106
    @christainmarks106 Před měsícem +5

    Boeing in 10 years will stop making commercial passenger planes and focus on its military contracts. Opening the door for Lockheed Martin to come back to the passenger plane making business or a new up and commer

    • @se-kmg355
      @se-kmg355 Před měsícem +2

      L-1011NEO 😍

    • @fkaptijn7111
      @fkaptijn7111 Před měsícem

      The military part of Boeing has also a lot of trouble watch to the kc 45 project

  • @OfficialDoggyYT
    @OfficialDoggyYT Před měsícem +2

    L choice tbh, L KLM, my country's airline just betraying like that imagine.

    • @almyor
      @almyor Před měsícem

      Why L ?

    • @OfficialDoggyYT
      @OfficialDoggyYT Před měsícem

      @@almyor KLM has been a almost full Boeing customer ever since 1920, thats why.

  • @WingWarnings
    @WingWarnings Před měsícem +3

    Nice video

  • @5000khn
    @5000khn Před měsícem +4

    Airbus A320 is more silent compare to B737 Max. I guess A321 also is.

  • @Ayayau57
    @Ayayau57 Před měsícem +8

    The french government has a minor stake in both Airbus and Air France-KLM and they choose the Airbus option…I believe that’s not a coincidence.

  • @stonew1927
    @stonew1927 Před měsícem

    As a passenger it makes me nervous to fly any 737 given all the safety issues Boeing's had with the newer models over the last several years. I just flew with KLM from Schipoll to Los Angeles on a 787 dreamliner. Very comfortable flight with excellent service.

  • @Bellasie1
    @Bellasie1 Před měsícem

    Clever airline. Bravo!

  • @sirafoxtron1701
    @sirafoxtron1701 Před měsícem

    The thumbnail really killed me

  • @Isaac-hr9fv
    @Isaac-hr9fv Před měsícem +2

    Here before you blowup

  • @rockyshore7017
    @rockyshore7017 Před měsícem +1

    Editorial comment: the plural of "aircraft" is.... "aircraft."

  • @russellbenton2987
    @russellbenton2987 Před měsícem

    These changes happen . In fact KLM was never a Boeing airline , it used McDonnell Douglas DC9 , DC8 and DC10s . It was quite a shock when they moved to 737s to replace DC9s . Switching from Boeing is not so huge . In any case , as part of Air France group , Air France already has A320 etc , so no great surprise .

    • @brocki95xxx
      @brocki95xxx Před měsícem

      Oh lord. McDongbell Douglas is even worse.

  • @Trancial-x-tion
    @Trancial-x-tion Před 14 dny

    1 decision... Air France....

  • @Sollyst1909
    @Sollyst1909 Před měsícem

    With the Air France-KLM Group 20% purchase of SAS Group - then it is logical as Air France and Scandinavian Airlines only use the Airbus A320 family in that size group.
    I am quite sure that the A321neo LR/XLR will decentralize the flight routes especially between Western Europe and Eastern North America. The 737 MAX cannot compete in that market. If you are not on the bandwagon with the long skinny routes, you will lose customers. With the A320 family, it will also be easier to get certified pilots, etc. to the A350, as the Airbus planes have largely identical cockpits, apart from the old A300 and A310.
    The alignment of the fleet is also found in the subsidiaries. Air France Hop, KLM Cityhopper and SAS Link, which only use Embraer E-Jet family aircrafts.

  • @LamboGhiniAventedor
    @LamboGhiniAventedor Před měsícem

    I swear almost every airline is turning to airbus

  • @Mr_blut
    @Mr_blut Před měsícem +1

    Am listin to tis while Playing gta 5 online 😂😂

  • @cagrikartal96
    @cagrikartal96 Před měsícem

    Dont forget the huge effect of France and Eu was stabbed in the back by AUKUS on the submarine deals. Air france klm orders came just after as a response.

  • @CAC02_
    @CAC02_ Před měsícem

    Well looks like Boeing is going full military now. Let’s see who wins Boeing or Lockheed Martin.

  • @evo3s75
    @evo3s75 Před měsícem

    KLM also had problems with the 787's when they got them newly delivered.
    Cable issue's, panels sitting lose, some seats were missing some bolts or they weren't mounted correctly and also sitting lose. Boeing as an manufacturer is failing and their quality has declined a lot

  • @Actuallytryhard
    @Actuallytryhard Před měsícem

    I think because KLM is scared of lion air flight 610 and flight 302 (not meaning any thin bad just a joke)

  • @LongHaulPilot
    @LongHaulPilot Před měsícem

    Don’t forget the A350

  • @andrewwmacfadyen6958
    @andrewwmacfadyen6958 Před měsícem +1

    When discussing sustainability how much of the airframe can recycled at end of economic life
    Carbon fibre and other composites are not suited to recycling

  • @Mimi_L.
    @Mimi_L. Před měsícem +1

    Good. I will never fly Boeing's flying coffin airplanes.

    • @Matty12333
      @Matty12333 Před měsícem

      How come many airlines like ryanair fly the 737 without issue?

    • @evo3s75
      @evo3s75 Před měsícem

      @@Matty12333 because they fly older 737's like the NG which don't have such problems as the newer Boing jets do

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR Před měsícem

    The Uthér Grate thingg
    it be keeps thé monéy inn Europé Too

  • @yahyaibrahim2570
    @yahyaibrahim2570 Před měsícem

    Yahya Ahmed Ibrahim and airlines Everyone and everyone

  • @dewyakana1543
    @dewyakana1543 Před měsícem +3

    Bye-bye Boeing! In AirBus I trust.

    • @CAC02_
      @CAC02_ Před měsícem

      I don’t trust Airbus on military.

  • @garycleary7191
    @garycleary7191 Před měsícem

    Please stop using the word "aircrafts." You sound like you don't understand the aviation industry. There is no such word in the English language. Aircraft is both singular and plural.

    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  Před měsícem

      Right, it was a mistake. Already fixed ✈

  • @xkr510
    @xkr510 Před měsícem +1

    Air Canada and WestJet are filling up on the 737. Hence I avoid them where I can. Go
    Porter! Not a nasty Boeing in sight.

  • @mousumimitrapal8139
    @mousumimitrapal8139 Před měsícem

    Let’s be honest 787looks best in klm livery
    (Who agrees) also not bagging👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻

  • @nathanlembke9026
    @nathanlembke9026 Před měsícem +2

    Well now I guess I won’t be flying KLM anymore

    • @michaelu9579
      @michaelu9579 Před měsícem

      Go on an 737 Max and never come back, fool

    • @Randomvideos-zi7pe
      @Randomvideos-zi7pe Před měsícem +4

      bye felicia

    • @juliangriffiths9583
      @juliangriffiths9583 Před měsícem +1

      I bet theyre real dissapointed that one of there thousabds of daily costumers is refusing to fly.

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR Před měsícem

    Iph its Bóiñgg
    I izza Ķňõtt Ģoieńg
    😟😰😩😰😟😰😩😰😟😟😰😩😨😨😨😧😦😧😩😰😟😰😩😩😩😩😨😨😳😵😶😳

  • @avgreekoooo
    @avgreekoooo Před měsícem

    Poor 737 it doesnt deserve this😭

  • @Matty12333
    @Matty12333 Před měsícem +1

    737 are more reliable planes

  • @beagle7622
    @beagle7622 Před měsícem

    KLM has merged with Air France recently. They are rationalising their fleet.

  • @user-mc1dv7ms3d
    @user-mc1dv7ms3d Před měsícem

    KLM the tax payers airline😂😂😂😂😂

  • @74viation
    @74viation Před měsícem +1

    pure bullshit. KLM is not saying goodbye to the 737 for at least another 2 or 3 decades. it proves extremely profitable in flights around the EU. so what is KLM gonna use a longer range A321neo for? long transatlantic flights? pure bullshit dude. leave that job to the 777 or 787.

    • @parmentier7457
      @parmentier7457 Před měsícem +1

      All KLM B737s will be replaced within a few years. 100 aircraft have been ordered, a mix of A320s and A321s. The A321s will mainly fly to destinations just outside Europe.

    • @74viation
      @74viation Před měsícem

      @@parmentier7457 i call bullshit on all of that

    • @ramyfares9099
      @ramyfares9099 Před měsícem +1

      What you are saying is also bullshit!! By 2 or 3 decades from now the 737 would turn 30 years on average, that is if they didn’t get the 737 MAX, with the youngest one delivered to KLM in December 2019 would be around 20 years of age. Of course they need a new plane and they need retirement by the next 5 years or maximum 1 decade only!! fuel efficiency would degrade over time and maintenance cost would increase over time, plane structure would fatigued even if done A-Checks, C-checks, heavy maintenance checks, etc…, so how is keeping the plane for “at least 2 or 3 decades” as you said is profitable?!

    • @ramyfares9099
      @ramyfares9099 Před měsícem +1

      And forget A321neos or 737 MAXs or any other narrowbody aircraft flying outside Europe transatlantic, okay fine let 787 do the job but don’t you think their aging 777 also needed replacement for the 777X or A350? For example don’t you think KLM’s orange pride aircraft which was delivered to KLM wayy back in 2008 (16-17 years ago) needed retirement and replacement in the next coming years? Don’t you think KLM needs a newer and much more energy efficient aircraft that can even fly longer distances compared to their predecessors?

    • @74viation
      @74viation Před měsícem

      @@ramyfares9099 the 737-800 is literally proven to be one of the most fuel efficient and economical airplanes ever made. i’m confident they can last 30 years before retirement. the thing that i find crazy in this video is that they’re trying to act like KLM would retire all 737’s out of their fleet IMMEDIATELY for the A321neo, which would be a completely pointless and actually uneconomical to do. i’m still very sure the 737s in KLM’s fleet can last around 15 years but COME ON, no need to retire them immediately when they’ve only been halfway through the aircraft’s lifespan.

  • @Leo_owo
    @Leo_owo Před měsícem

    Such a bad video. The A32X Neo is supposed to be the latest and most modern single isle jet? Have theese guys not heard of the A220 or the Comac c919...

    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  Před měsícem

      🤓

    • @colestock9980
      @colestock9980 Před měsícem

      E-2? MC-21? (though i’m not sure it’s commercially flying yet)

    • @colonyresident7151
      @colonyresident7151 Před měsícem

      919? What plane does the Xi ride on when he visits other countries? Why? He doesn’t trust his own product