Hey Waylon. Thanks for your videos. I've been playing craps for many many years, and your strategies give me some new ways of playing. They're awesome. My question on this strategy (and your outside ladder the other day) is that I'm curious why you ladder up on 7's and not when the DP gets whacked. On 7's, you usually break even or win a little (boxes offset by DP bet), so I consider that a win or break even, so in your previous ladders you don't ladder up on a win. But if the DP gets whacked, that's a loss, so in previous ladder systems that's when you would ladder up. So I'm curious if you thought more on the math of the ladder, or why the ladder up on this strategy is on a break even/win vs on a DP loss. Keep up the great content. It is much appreciated!!!
I ladder on 7s because the 6&8s out roll the 7 almost 2:to 1 at the end of the day and sometimes a lot more ! So for every 7 I should get one or 2 6&8s overall
Waylon, Keep the good times coming. Question on this one, if the 7 out breaks even why not stay at the same level on the 7 and go up the ladder on the point loser in addition to the come out losers 7/11? Now the game is 6/8 vs the come out 7/11 and point winner. The seven is your friend once you have a point plus the 6/8 ladders down as needed like you show here. If your point is 4/10 you have 10 ways vs 3 ways and the 5/9 would be 10 ways vs 4 ways. It seems to me over time, a come out 7 + a come out 11 + a point winner will not beat the 6/8 being rolled even when on occasion you only have the 6 or the 8 if ones the point. It would still be 5 v 5 if the 6 or 8 is the point. Don't forget, the occasional come out 2&3 are also a little bump and ladder down. Recap Ladder up on come out 7 & 11 as well as point loser Ladder down on come out 2 & 3 as well as 6 & 8 (when one is not the point) Don't pass winner breaks even so stay at same level. Love this and there might actually be an advantage here.
@@AdamHill 6&8s ate rolled almost twice as many times as the 7 in most cases! That's the reasoning behind laddering on a 7 ! I should see almost 2 6&8s vs one 7 ! 1.5 actually
@@waylonswaycraps I get that 100%. The part that hits me funny is the Ladder on a tie (7 out) vs the ladder on a loss (point winner)? Espicailly when it is much closer to 50/50 vs the 7 than it is vs the point. We know it is 1.5 on 6/8 vs 7. What do you believe it is 6/8 vs hitting the point? The come outs are the same both ways.
How about Total Package from the Don't Ladder? Only increase the field/5 on a 6/8 instead of all the bets so it doesn't get crazy.. Level 1 25,75,25,25 field 25 200 dp Level 2 50,125,50,50 filed 50 400 dp 1 hit, ladder down with a placed point like in this video
Didn't you say at the begining to only go up on Come Out 7s and 11s??? Then you constantly went up on all 7s. You were going up when you won $120 while losing $60 for a net $60 win. You also were going up on pushes. That is very unlike your normal strategies where you only go up on actual loses. Did I miss something?
very confusing and no explanation of the "levels" and are you putting the place bet on the 5 because it is the point or just because you wanted the 5? very unclear
@@hannoverfist1538 that's how the don't ladders down is by placing the point ! Levels ? Up and down by 30$ in the 6&8 and 60$ on the don't ! Did you watch the video because I explain how the don't ladders up and down ?
@@waylonswaycraps ok yes i see now i didn't realize i had to wait till 27 minutes into the vid to get that explanation. thank you! im gonna try it out tonight!
Got it finally. Good one!😎🎼
@@garymoses1165 thanks brother
Up $600." Not bad" he says as he grabs another rack for his winnings. Love it
@@onesneak7668 lol yes sir
Hey Waylon. Thanks for your videos. I've been playing craps for many many years, and your strategies give me some new ways of playing. They're awesome.
My question on this strategy (and your outside ladder the other day) is that I'm curious why you ladder up on 7's and not when the DP gets whacked. On 7's, you usually break even or win a little (boxes offset by DP bet), so I consider that a win or break even, so in your previous ladders you don't ladder up on a win. But if the DP gets whacked, that's a loss, so in previous ladder systems that's when you would ladder up. So I'm curious if you thought more on the math of the ladder, or why the ladder up on this strategy is on a break even/win vs on a DP loss.
Keep up the great content. It is much appreciated!!!
I ladder on 7s because the 6&8s out roll the 7 almost 2:to 1 at the end of the day and sometimes a lot more ! So for every 7 I should get one or 2 6&8s overall
Waylon, Keep the good times coming.
Question on this one, if the 7 out breaks even why not stay at the same level on the 7 and go up the ladder on the point loser in addition to the come out losers 7/11? Now the game is 6/8 vs the come out 7/11 and point winner. The seven is your friend once you have a point plus the 6/8 ladders down as needed like you show here. If your point is 4/10 you have 10 ways vs 3 ways and the 5/9 would be 10 ways vs 4 ways.
It seems to me over time, a come out 7 + a come out 11 + a point winner will not beat the 6/8 being rolled even when on occasion you only have the 6 or the 8 if ones the point. It would still be 5 v 5 if the 6 or 8 is the point. Don't forget, the occasional come out 2&3 are also a little bump and ladder down.
Recap
Ladder up on come out 7 & 11 as well as point loser
Ladder down on come out 2 & 3 as well as 6 & 8 (when one is not the point)
Don't pass winner breaks even so stay at same level.
Love this and there might actually be an advantage here.
@@AdamHill 6&8s ate rolled almost twice as many times as the 7 in most cases! That's the reasoning behind laddering on a 7 ! I should see almost 2 6&8s vs one 7 ! 1.5 actually
@@waylonswaycraps I get that 100%. The part that hits me funny is the Ladder on a tie (7 out) vs the ladder on a loss (point winner)? Espicailly when it is much closer to 50/50 vs the 7 than it is vs the point.
We know it is 1.5 on 6/8 vs 7. What do you believe it is 6/8 vs hitting the point?
The come outs are the same both ways.
Nice explanation on the ladder down process - makes total sense, and the end result speaks for itself!
@@rikdeere ty my friend
Color me confused. Why are you laddering up when the DP wins on a 7 out? At the beginning of the video you said: "Only ladder up on COME OUT 7 & 11s."
@@ErnieMayberry goes up on any 7 and down on any 6&8
Sorry I didn't mention 7 outs
@@waylonswaycraps I must of missed your earlier video(s) on this method. Thanks for the confirmation.
Nice work! Makes sense to me!
@@Montanasummerfun ty my friend
How about Total Package from the Don't Ladder?
Only increase the field/5 on a 6/8 instead of all the bets so it doesn't get crazy..
Level 1 25,75,25,25 field 25 200 dp
Level 2 50,125,50,50 filed 50 400 dp
1 hit, ladder down with a placed point like in this video
@@TheBillkrauss love that one ! It's a winner $$$
The volume on the video is very low just FYI.
Volume sounded okay to me
@@stevencurtin7230 sounds great to me ! Check your end
Sounds good on my speakers!
Didn't you say at the begining to only go up on Come Out 7s and 11s??? Then you constantly went up on all 7s. You were going up when you won $120 while losing $60 for a net $60 win. You also were going up on pushes. That is very unlike your normal strategies where you only go up on actual loses. Did I miss something?
He goes up on any 7 regardless, and also the 11s if they are on come out. Its consistent with his last video
@@iptvclub1575 correct
@@markwojtulski74 it goes up on any 7 ! And down on any 6&8
Sorry I didn't mention the 7 outs
very confusing and no explanation of the "levels" and are you putting the place bet on the 5 because it is the point or just because you wanted the 5? very unclear
@@hannoverfist1538 that's how the don't ladders down is by placing the point ! Levels ? Up and down by 30$ in the 6&8 and 60$ on the don't ! Did you watch the video because I explain how the don't ladders up and down ?
@@waylonswaycraps ok yes i see now i didn't realize i had to wait till 27 minutes into the vid to get that explanation. thank you! im gonna try it out tonight!