OnSong vs. Music Stand | Which app is best for worship bands?
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In this video, I compare the OnSong app with the Music Stand app with a worship context. I think both are great for storing and viewing digital chord charts in worship, but which one is the best fit for your ministry?
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Thanks for the helpful and useful information and content
Bless you for taking the time
to explain the pros and cons of both applications, it's really appreciated 🙏🏽
I love using OnSong! Works perfect for me.
I love Onsong. I've been using it for many years now. The formatting is a big deal, but even more importantly is the ability to add capos, change keys, etc. Also, printing out chord sheets for our band allows me to customize things like having the actual song order, removing the capo, etc. If you get real froggy you can project your lyrics from Onsong to a projector or TV. You can create a virtual music stand for other musicians and just use a small tv screen or something if you didn't want to print out music. You can link together all of the iPads. It is well worth the money if you utilize the features.
It's also a great way to keep church songs and secular songs in separate folders lol.
Does it need the planning center to work? Can I Import songs from CCLI?
@@0bikej526 I think that there is a way to do it, but I've never found it reliable. Sometime it's imported via PDF, other times it's just the lyrics. I find it easier to look for the song via ultimate-guitar and copy and paste and finalie the chart that way.
The answer is OnSong for solo/freelance worship leaders. Being able to project lyrics, run click and tracks, and have sheet music up all on one page is absolutely amazing.
I will say that Music Stand tends to work better for larger corporate worship bands, purely because of the Planning Center connection. A lot of churches get addicted to Planning Center and live or die by it.
hi Jake, my chord diagram library don't have the piano option for me to insert chord.....how can I fix this?
Where do you get the songs from( there is absolutely no mention of this at all) with all the copyright stuff nowadays? Who is licensing the CCLI songs from Christian radio?
Hello, do you have any links for deploying iPads within a group and managing the IT?
just got my first ipad. Haven't decided between Music Stand or On Song yet. Anyone know a quick/easy way to get all my sheet music into these apps. Will the apps scan the sheet music? Hate to get one app and find out I need something els.
Any of them can be used on Microsoft windows surface pro please?
Great info! Thanks!
Question: What Android tablet is best for a musician? Maybe a "king pad"??
I have worked with OnSong for five or six years now. I lead the worship band with 8 members. At first it was great. But now you pay for items that do not work. After an update, I could no longer send txt versions via email. I wrote about the problem, they admitted it was their error but after a year there has been no fix. I now send in pdf format but the mailing is hit or miss. Sometimes the group gets it. Sometimes they do not. I have to email to myself to make sure it went out. I paid the annual fee but am now searching for something much easier and flawless.
Hi Jake, a question for you. I currently print my charts from either SongSelect or Worship Initiative. I would like to start using those PDF with a pad or tablet. Any suggestions for that. I don't need to create or edit any chart, don't need to tie in with any other tools and I will be the only musician using this. Thanks in advance.
Hey Max. I was checking out this video to learn a bit more about these apps, but I personally use and have my entire worship PDF library in an app called Forscore. It's an excellent app for music and PDFs. It's easy to build sets, tag songs, add notes and rearrange pages in a very small and efficient app. You don't hear much about it in the worship scene because it was designed for all musicians (worship, classic, etc). Check it out, I highly recommend it.
Hi Jake, great video.
I play saxophone and like to use the lead sheet music. We use the Music Stand app at church which is great for the others in the band if using chords/lyrics because they are able to change the key if needed. Is there anyway I can access the lead sheet music and change the key when appropriate? At the moment I have to import the lead using it as a pdf which means the key is set and can’t be changed.
Mark.
Are these only available on Android as well?
Do you have a video about what is the best tablet to get? I am looking to get tablets for my worship team, but don't know if the money for ipads are worth it, and if a cheaper tablet option would be worth it.
iPads are the best they easier to manage as an admin. $329 for the cheapest iPad on Apple.com
Why no mention of Forscore?
Is this available in android
What about Worship Trac?
Hi, whats is best: OnSong or Planning Center?
Question about Music Stand annotation. I marked up a song on a given week. Beauty! The same song popped up two weeks later, but that set didn’t have the annotations, obviously cuz this was a different set. Once I opened the chart in the new week and went back, the annotations were gone! Seems like it subbed in the new one? Is there a copy of the marked up chart saved somewhere? If so where, and how can I use annotated charts on different weeks? Thanks!
I’d like to find an app like this that doesn’t require a monthly fee. I remember the good ole’ days when you just bought a piece of software and used it. Seems all the good ones now want you to pay a monthly fee and lock you in forever. My folder and printed out chord sheets don’t charge me a fee.
I've used opensong in the past and it was ok. It's not as fancy or pretty but it works. Depending on what you need it might be enough. Unfortunately for me, right now, it keeps crashing on my Mac Mini M1.
I have hand written words and chords. How can I get them on the pad without typing then all over again?
what did you find out?
wish planning center had a key change option... unless you are the organizer of the songs you are the one with picking the key - if you are a guitarist and want to play the song with a capo - you have to ask the organizer of the set list to set up the song in the capo'd key you are playing in.... with onsong you can just change the key on the fly if you want to
Ken Evans Music Stand does have a key change option
We're looking into OnSong as an option for our team. Is there a way to import the Chord Pro format, or is that something you have to create separately and then upload. Does it work with SongSelect or anything like that? Thanks.
Yes you can download ChordPro charts and it also integrates with Songselect
Well - just saying you can put PDF's on Google Drive and then just call them up on the iPad. No setting up and all that stuff like with MusicStand. I think most people just want to store and call up a PDF and use it when playing. But then again I am new to using these apps as having used good old paper for a million years. I tried OnSong but apparently you have to pay to use it - did not see the feature to import PDF into it.
I have not seen Music Stand be able to transpose keys for you the way Onsong does. Am I just missing it or is it not there?
You can transpose in the music stand app. I have used it for a couple years and you can save that key as a separate version so when you click a song in your library, it will show,. Christ be magnified in C or in G and you can label it under your name to know that's your version that you like to play it in.
I’ve had some issues with Onsong’s customer service (or lack of). I recently upgraded and am paying $47 a year. I had some issues and contacted customer service. They have been hit and miss with getting back to me. I have had one specific issue for the last two weeks that is still unresolved, and they completely stopped responding to my emails.
Totally agree. It appears if you have the early version it will work better. The've upgraded the app and nothing works correctly nor have their help docs or video been updated for the new version.
I just ordered and paid the annual renewal. I DO NOT RECOMMEND ONSONG. NONE of their help (docs, or videos) match the new app (1-20-2022). I may try another APP or go back to my 3-ring binder. Very disappointed!!!
Hi Jake! What ipad do you use?? Thanks!👍🏻
I have an iPad Pro with the 12” screen and it’s been good. Sometimes I wonder if just an iPad mini would suffice
Can i import a Drum Track intoa Song on this on song App ?
You can import tracks and add them to a song
I'll use worship extreme free plan 😉👌🏻
nice job
What are best apps for android?
Warning: OnSong text annotation is very buggy. Annotations magically move to top left corner of the screen where it's impossible to drag back. Also, annotations from your mac won't be transferred to your iPad (bug).
Music Stand
Cool
Prefer songbook because it works landscape and auto zooms so I don’t have to scroll. OnSong is good too however prefer songbook.
Music stand and onsong do that
@@iam-music not the way songbook does with two column support. I have been in touch with onsong and they are working on introducing it in future.
@@darrenmcw1981 Onsong doesnt have 2 column but Music Stand does and the other Music Stand by WE is prob the best with actual 2 column support and transpose directly within PDF so you dont even need to do chordpro...now...just format control and we are away! WE is also ipad and android...and its FREE...yay. Capo support is also live in pdf too. I manage teams so all of the above are getting me to move to Music Stand WE.
@@iam-music I just found Music Stand by Worship Extreme about a week ago through Songselect. So far I love it and am going to pitch it to our Pastor’s wife and our other Worship Leader
@@heidishea645 There are always cons of course but always about application;
1. Projecting it is tough because it doesnt allow reformatting ie Bold/size etc (we use to just have a large screen for the team and tabs for leadsheet requirements.)
2. Import of chordpro can be quite buggy atm as it doesnt always follow codes properly
3. Problem with all the apps, no count in option for click tracks. As a percussionist/leader, I want to just hear and 8 beat, 4 beats to cue me and 4(dep on time sig) to count everyone else in. I dont get how this is not a thing...I def don want to play to a click but tempo is so important to simply start a song.
HTH
music stand of Worship Extreme
I won't use any software that requires a monthly/annual rental fee. I'll buy outright but not rent. I won't even put Microsoft Word on my ipad because they only have rental software for iPad. I can live without it. Software companies might think about the sales they are losing.
I guess Microsoft Word is the best😂
Both on Mac require M1 chip... no sidecar.
Free +music stand is 62 bucks a month.... onsong spending 50 one time.... hmmmmm.....
He should have mentioned that the OnSong cost is per PERSON.
Very expensive.
Sometimes advanced convenience isn’t cheap.
Rrrrrrrr