A brief look into punk legends Minor Threat
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- Minor Threat defined the hardcore punk scene of Washington D.C. and created an entirely new philosophy called straight edge. This documentary briefly examines the life and career of Ian MacKaye and Minor Threat.
#punk #minorthreat #musichistory - Hudba
Ian MacKaye actually is the definition of punk to me. 100% has kept to his morals. Minor Threat meant so much to me as a kid. Had I kept to what I took from Minor Threat, ethically I'd have been a lot better off.
I'd like to see a series of videos on Post-Punk. You could do two bookend videos. Maybe 2 at the start one at the end and in between cover the various sub genres it spawned. Post punk has a starting point for all intents and purposes. The end of the sex pistols the beginning of p.i.l., one of the few genres that has an actual start date.(Not really, but better than most) You can start with Lydons comments about Jimmy savile that the BBC cut and were subsequently put on a p.i.l. album.(Comments that baffled a ten year old me....until 2011 when the truth came out) . You could use Simon Reynolds excellent book rip it up and start again as a guide basically I'd love to see stuff on c86 music on the various routes that punk rock took be a boy or hardcore or you know or the 10 other routes that took
Or you could do a video explaining why the band the police are actually a prog rock band first and foremost.
You mean straight edge hardcore XXX. Start using? I did. Kinda goes w the music attitude I also loved fugazi esp repeater I have on vinyl. Did you mean what I said. I'm 43 and grew up in the early 1990s w a city full of hardcore independent and left over punks who grew outta neonazi and thought let's try something new start a band. Louisville, KY. Was on the scene real big from 1991/2 to 1998
Endpoint, avail, enkindle, evergreen and Kinghorse (Glen Danzig of misfits promoted them but they never reached much success commercially..... Yeah thats how I knew they were real by not selling out to corporate America
@@williamhinson4603 please expand on that comment. I don't exactly see what you're saying. I remember Kingface I don't remember Kinghorse.
Bad Brains is like the Jimi Hendrix of punk-there’s before Bad Brains and there’s after Bad Brains
Do you care to elaborate?
@@shawnsolo316 no need, I think... They came, the conquered, everything changed after them.
@@shawnsolo316 I can kind of elaborate, mind you I am a white dude that loves Bad Brains’ music. They innovated what punk was at the time, starting as a jazz fusion band in the mid 70s but turning to hardcore by the end of the decade. They added a bit of groove and the anger of still being oppressed as black men in a non black space. A bunch of pissed of suburban white kids who hated conservatism and the racist views attached really latched into groups like Bad Brains who were politically and societally charged in their music. Just like in the 60s with psychedelic music and other rock acts, there was a love of music; you make music that speaks to me, so I like you, it was undeniable that Hendrix was one of the best pure musicians at the time and he was beloved for it. Same way Janis Joplin was able to become a legend in music despite being a woman in a very misogynistic time period in the 60s. Bad Brains added a little extra flavor to what punk music was at the time. They were pissed off, but they were groovy and fun to listen to. It’s a lot of fun listening to their discography. But ultimately that barrier of entry (mostly racial, let’s be real here) was demolished by both Hendrix and rock music in the 60s just like Bad Brains did with punk rock in the late 70s/early 80s.
@@joshhale9355 BAD BRAINS IS BLACK?!?
no not really, they are just both black
"Ian's the only one (who never sold out his punk ideals."
- Joe Strummer
A fugazi video would be badass🙌
Yesssss!
A second Yeeesssss!!!!!!
Subbed for Fugazi vid. Thanks for the great story, shared with my son who’s just starting to find his way playing punk.
Fugazi is GOAT
Agredddd
I was a few years late to Minor Threat. I probably discovered them and got Out of step in 7th grade around 86-87 or so. I remember seeing skaters in magazines wearing their shirts and since that was my “internet” at the time I checked them out. One of my all time favorite things to do after school was pop Out of step in my Walkman and play RC ProAm on my Nintendo over and over. That and blast it on a boom box by the curb we would skate.
The first album is one of the best hard-core albums of all time.
Agreed. Up there with Bad Brains first album and Damaged by Black Flag for me
I subscribed for a future Bad Brains video. Don’t disappoint me.
Is this video that bad
The False Prophets were hard-core
Lucky to see Minor threat as a kid in SF at the on broadway theater. Think was 1982 or 83. Great show great band. Fugazi was another great show.
Saw them on what must've been the same tour at the Tool & Die on Valencia Street with openers MDC (Stains from Texas) and Deadly Reign from the East Bay. That was before I lived in SF and took a Greyhound bus up here to see them. Times! Edit - I leaned from the video that a lot of those guys were also born in 1962...which makes us 62 this year. Crazy AF.
Thank you Ian McKaye and thx for Discord and so much good music and Bands.
Definitely do one on fugazi.. It’s nice to seen the younger gens show interest in great bands like Minor threat.
So many iconic pics of minor threat but the pic of Alec MacKaye on the minor threat ep is my favorite
I was listening to the out of step ep today while playing catch with my 12 year old son…i remember buying it on cassette when I was not much older than him. Good times.
Fugazi were my favorite band for years , i still love them now. A video about them would be neat.
Definitely on the list!
all Ian's stuff has a huge impact on me musically. I saw fugazi 4 times in like a year and half span during the "end hits" time just before the release of "INSTRUMENT "
when I watched that... well I figured they got me on video in a very unstable and insecure time of my life... sweet goodness, I've been playing avidly and still trying to have a healthy and positive reaction to the whole experience.
what a trip it's been
I am surprised that you didn't mention Embrace, the band Ian was in between Minor Threat and Fugazi. They weren't together very long but were very influential during that time.
Come here to say this - I mean, Ian and pretty much every band ever tagged with the "emo" label has totally rejected it - but Embrace & Rites of Spring were incredibly influential on later bands.
That band never existed. You are experiencing Mandela Effect. And it’s the Burbonstine Bears.
@@macfilms9904 yessss. Embrace and Rites of Spring were the first bands I ever heard termed EMO. I FORGOT there was a step between Minor Threat and Fugazi.
@@macfilms9904 I first saw the term emo in the book BANNED IN D.C., which I still have somewhere. That book came out at the same time as embrace 87 88. You know what song I love was like a king by King face that's like a wicked life affirming song
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Good job. I grew in Baltimore and started attending punk/hardcore shows in the spring of '84. I saw many discord bands so I'm very familiar with the subject but you research unearthed some things I didn't know. So good job. You did forget to mention "Embrace" Ian's band between Minor Threat & Fugazi.
I was privy to Fugazi even before really knowing Minor Threat in the early 90s. Got to see Fugazi in 92. After my obsession with Fugazi and introduction to Minor Threat, I really admired McKaye for not giving in to societal pressures and resisting conformity and doing what he saw fit to do. Really admirable, especially among young people. Nobody have the fvcking balls to do what he was doing even today. I may not agree with everything he stands for, but I can agree with his attitude and respect him for it. 🙏
Glad you started out mentioning Bad Brains. Without them, so much of what we know as hardcore and punk would be different. They blew minds.
And Dischord, unlike a certain SST Records (one of most important labels of its time), still is releasing good stuff.
I’m a big admirer of Ian Mackaye and have been for a long time but I can only imagine what a nightmare it would have been to have be in a band with him back then.
Really well done. Thanks for authoring an expository piece without injecting opinion. And thanks for answering all the questions folks would have. Out of Step along with a Cramps and a Bad Brains album changed my life. Great to finally know more of why such an inspired album was mostly a one off.
Thank you!
As someone who had the great experience of meeting Ian, he’d love this. Education and DIY: do it yourself. A mission statement that may seem daunting at first, but built a beautiful lineage. Even in the digital age, bands are born through GarageBand on iPads. Thanks for the video. Cheers!
Fantastic. Loved that and would definitely be interested in a Fugazi video.
Well done! Great to see someone exploring history of DC punk scene 🙂 and nice work getting those old live show videos
also jawbreaker would be good, since it was the band that even cobain thought would be the next big thing, played shows with oasis and nirvana, and should have made it because they had it sounded like a newer husker du.
One of the stereotypes of punk is that it's simple music that any idiot can play. Minor Threat destroyed that stereotype. They showed so much talent and skill in their playing. They were tight as hell, and their songs were powerful.
Great music, and talent. Punk still is great era in music.
This was the band that turned me on to punk and hardcore . While I was an 8 year old listening to GnR and Skid Row then to Anthrax and Metallica in the 80s , my friends older sister gave me a Minor Threat tape cause my friend/her lil brother didn't like it . I sure fn liked it !!!!! That tape changed my musical life .
This is a fantastic piece, man, well done.
Earth Crisis would be another interesting deep dive to expand in the straight edge and militant vegan topics that were part of the punk and hardcore scene of the 90s.
Very cool. I didn't know this. Love their music to this day after all of the years.
Minor Threat - my favorite punk band. The live concerts are legendary. Find some of them here on CZcams, you'll never seen anything like it
Thanks for this
I was expecting crap and instead got an Amazing in depth video on Minor Threat. Thank you for the research and information. Subbing for future videos. I would love to see Videos about Strung out, Tiger Army, Trapped under ice, Bane, Hope conspiracy, Nothing face, Downpour, etc
Well done sir! You delivered an amazing synopsis of one of the best punk bands ever! I felt like I went back in time.
Thank you!
Yes to a Bad Brains essay! Please!
Subscribed.
Your kitty is beautiful. This video is also. THANKYOU!
Pretty sure you meant 1980 at around the 6:00m mark.. teen idols of course predate minor threat, so… just an editorial note..
As a 42 yr old, I was lucky to have 3 older siblings to introduce me to all this great music that pissed my parents off to no end. Me being 7: “I like this Desendent song and this other one. Are the brains bad or are they brains that are bad? A glorious era to do most of my growing up.
Slayer did a couple minor threat covers on the album undisputed attitude and they were awesome
This is one of the best minor threat docs, I been listening to minor threat since highskool I'm Mexican there music. spoke to me.
Ian starting Fugazi was one of the most exciting times for me and my friends in music. It was like Odin himself graced the world with more milk and honey, and the output did not disappoint. I know that sounds grandiose, but that's how it felt to 13 year old's who hung on every note and word of Minor Threat. I still get chills listening to them (and MT).
“Has anyone here actually ever saw the Bad Brains in the 80’s?”
(I did in Miami, FL back then) 😀😃
wonderful resume, i really enjoyed. Minor Threat remains to be one of my favorite bands. I'll never forget the day in which I found a CD that said "Complete discography" and thought after playing it for like 40 minutes until the end I thought it was a mistake. I then looked inside of the booklet to realize that was actually it because all the songs were less than 2 minutes. Was a a wonderful introduction to fast paced energic punk. The SxE mentality and lyrics just added so much more rawness and authenticity to the whole thing, I was instantly hooked. I just want to add a tiny parenthesis around minute 11:57 you mentioned that yes the message was more positive in comparison to the Nihilistic and anarchic approach or direction. I want to say though, Anarchy is very positive! And many Anarchopunk bands were actually pro vegan and if not SxE the maybe were sober (with exception of weed hippies xD) , Anarchist philosophy is advanced, it's actually positive and almost spiritual...and overall antiestablishment and anticapitalism.. something that Minor Threat actually didn't touch upon, you can still find many pictures of Ian Mackaye drinking Coca-Colas- well that wouldn't happen with anarchopunk bands...It's interesting that still Minor Threat reacted being authentic and going against social trends. Cool video mate but just wanted to shed some light as to not misinterpret the anarchist ideology..
An Artist circle/genre you should look into is 90s Goner Records Garage Rock. The Oblivians, The Gories, and The Reatards are a unique sounds from 1994-now that are super crazy lol I think it’d be an interested dive
That does sound awesome! I’ll add it to the list
Good level of research on this. Great job.
Thank you!
I really liked this video. Thanks man , learned alot
Glad you enjoyed it!
So important and pivotal I've never heard of them! Heard of Bad Brains, they were excellent
Hey, cool video! While I know all these stuff, it's always cool to see a very well researched video about hardcore punk topics. I've seen Jeff Nelson in 2022. when he was touring Europe presenting the documentary about Madam Organ Club and this was a very cool experience. Also saw Rollins spoken word in 2023., also a great experience.
I’m sure that was great!
Would love to learn more about Fugazi
I don’t have much to say other than amazing video, I’m just interacting with a comment to boost your video, you deserve wayyy more views
Thank you so much - that’s very helpful!
Well done sir.
Subbed! Deliver that Bad Brains video sooner than later, please!!!!!
I was at CBs one night and needed some air so I walked up the street to Great Gildersleeves and walked inside and Minor Threat was playing. The whole floor was a mosh pit. Those were good times.
Great video! I love independent content creators that focus on this kind of stuff. Subscribing now
Thank you!
I was into second generation punk rock
but living in the UK had not known about Minor Threat
One day I went into a Virgin Record store and saw they had
two records by a band called Minor Threat
and I bought them without hearing them.
I over played those vinyls - it was great music and I was hooked
BUT the band was over so...
I was at the first concert of Fugazi in London
at the Sir George Robey public house in Finsbury Park
because of those two records and the record buyer at that record shop!
This stuff is just as potent as when i first heard it on vinyl this video made me cry minor threat was so important to punk rock it cant be overstated.
I was in the DC area a few years ago and drove over to the street the Dischord house is on. I parked d and got out and walked over in front of it and I’m just going to be real…..crazy as it sounds, I got goose bumps and damn near had tears in my eyes just standing there looking at this house thinking what it meant to me and so many other people. Directly across the street is a small strip of shops. The top is street level and around the corner you can see the foundation under the shops, the “basement” of the building. I believe this is actually where the Dischord distribution is. One last side note…. Brian Baker spent the late 80’s very early 90’s in the band Junkyard. They released two major label albums and had a little MTV success and everything. They actually got lumped in with the “hair bands” because of the times, but def weren’t a hair band….they were just a gritty rock band that sung about Harley’s, hot rods, booze, and cheating. The guitar work on the albums is phenomenal for the style. He’s an extremely versatile guitarist for sure.
Back in the day I spent some time living at Dischord House and I remember going over to the 7-Eleven in that little strip mall for microwave burritos and Yoo-hoos in the middle of the night. I'm amazed to see (on Google Maps) that it's still there today.
your storytelling fantastic:) would love to see a video on fugazi
Very well done bro
Excellent work bro, fugazi video has me.
Thank you!
Great video overall ... Been loving Minor Great since the 80s ... You asked for recommendations so here are a handful that I'd love to see your take on: The Dickies, Angry Samoans, Cadillac Tramps/Manic Hispanic, X, Circle Jerks, Descendants, The Dead Milkmen, Stiff Little Fingers, or in the vein of DC (yet not really punk) Shudder To Think ... Keep up the good work!!!
MT was one of my fave bands as a teen. The whole straight edge movement spoke to me.
Do a roky Erickson episode. Most underrated genius that ever lived!
I’ll add em to the list!
i dont know where to start or stop..
so, ill just be quoted "much respect to all & to all a good night!"
huge minor threat fan, i wear my minor threat shirt @least once a week.
fugazu!! bring it!! thankyou
Great stuff....
How about one on Thin Lizzy?.....they were VERY influential to a variety of genres and bands.
Also...Pub Rock. From the US, Australia, and England. The 101'ers for instance. Followed by Eddie and the Hot Rods, Dr. Feel-good, and so on.
Great channel! Subbed!
Cool video!
It would be cool to see a video about The Youth Brigade (Canadian & California band of the Stern Brothers).
Yeah do a bad brains video . I subbed too btw
Would love a video on Fugazi!
Listening to Minor Threat at 12 years old changed my life. At a time when you couldnt find like bands, i spent hours at record stores trying.to find with anything with such energy. It wasnt till many years later I found Gorilla Biscuts, bad brains, and other bands of that ilk, but nothing ever moved me like the minor threat discography.
I'm lucky to have been alive in this time and saw everyone. I was a ginormous MT fan and was straight edge too. Well, outside of the Jack and Coke, and..... Uhhhhh..... Coke. Besides that and Marlboro Reds I was straight edge through and through!
Enjoyed this a lot. Definitely do a Fugazi video
Fan-bloody-tastic! Love this. Would love something about Civ / Gorilla Biscuits / Judge / Earth Crisis. That would be well cool. Even the infiltration of Veganism / Straight edge on music, as many many artists in all genres are straight edge now.
You know what? I’ve just come in contact with your channel, but I’m rather impressed. Listen. I was in bands in Seattle during the 90’s. I expect your channel has done the big names of Seattle as nauseum. What do you think about digging a little deeper? I’d like to see something about The Rest Of Us.
I do miss the old band names in the rehearsal space.
Ohh yeah ... Love Ian Mc and MT
Cool channel. You should do a video about indie pop / twee pop / jangle pop / C86. Tons of bands on that genre. The Field Mice, Trembling Blue Stars-, Felt, Go-Betweens, Young Marble Giants, The Lucksmiths, Magnetic Fields, The Wedding Present, Orange Juice, Marine Girls, Aztec Camera, The Wild Swans, Riverside USA, The Ocean Blue, Belle & Sebastian, Camera Obscura, World Party, East Village, Momus, Heavenly, East River Pipe, The Shop Assistants, The Primitives, Fuzzbox, Darling Buds, The Popguns, The Flatmates, Acid House Kings, The Chills, Trash Can Sinatras, Television Personalities, etc ..
dc punk aficionado here; this is a really really well researched video and i actually learned a thing or two! one nitpick: guy picciotto’s name is pronounced ghee pitch-oh-tow. that’s all, happy trails :)
additional note: a video on fugazi would be fantastic, or if you’re looking for a left turn, one on jeff buckley!
Wow great stuff
Thanks!
Yes to Fugazi
Would love to see a video on Drive-By Truckers. One moment you’re listening to dark well told stories in songs like ‘Decoration Day’, another you’re head-banging and screaming to ‘Lookout Mountain’, and at the end you’re cheekily laughing to ‘Gravity’s Gone’
Was Straight Edge in my youth....then I got swallowed up in the whole "shoegaze " thing when I saw,Ride at 15....in 1992.....Fugazi were one of those bands... that I would always be sown to go see live no matter what I was into at the time.......best use of a hype man with GuyPiccioto out side of hip hop...the interplay between him and Ian is so dynamic
ian owns a house here in guilford (family Homestead) saw him walking through the store i was on my cell with a friend. isaid that guy looks jusr like ian mckay he spun around and smiled
As someone who lived it, I would say that is a pretty fair assessment.
Do a video on Morphine. Criminally underrated. Like nothing else youve ever heard.
Great video! Very well done, a few little extra tidbits, one of Ian’s lesser known bands that’s definitely worth a listen is Pailhead a collaboration with Al from Ministry. Also Samhain (not to sound like a dick but paraphrasing Danzig “is pronounced Sow-Ween but since nobody ever does we just call it Sam-Hain”)…So regarding Samhain and MT, the last track on Initium is Archangel, the long solo at the end of that song is actually played by Lyle Presslar. One of the greatest punk, pre-metal albums, as is all of Samhain’s work imo!
Congratulations for the video! I love Minor Threat and other bands like Dag Nasty, Agent Orange and Circle Jerks. Is there any chance you put together some contents about them?
I love Agent Orange, I'll definitely add em to the list! Thanks!
MINOR THREAT are the apex of HARD CORE PUNK ROCK. They were the East Coast counterweight to BLACK FLAG. I’ve been a fan since their first 7”, and I was thrilled to see them live in SF. Great respect for McKay and his support for the DIY R&R scene.
I had a buddy in high school that when he was a kid he lived right across the road from Steve Hansgen and I remember one day I was wearing my Minor Threat shirt to school he told me "Oh yeah I know the bassist for that band" and he ended up pulling out his phone and texted him on the spot and I remember when he got the text back he showed it to me and it was dope as fuck
Oh please don’t sound uninterested when you mention the Meatmen. That’s a video to unpack right there.
Mad Love for the Meatmen and Tesco Vee. 🤔 I imagine one road-bump (speed bump) would be explaining how not everything they did was supposed to be taken seriously, but at the same time they were a real punk band that wasn’t *always* doing a comic dramatic characterization …
Interesting video. I always liked the intelligence of MT, their self awareness elevated them above most others.
Now, do a discharge biography.
Nice video! Fugazi next please
They aren’t quite next - it’ll be Joy Division, a location video, and then them. So soon
Good work. Perhaps you could do a doc on The Ruts?
9:30 club, that place was awesome. the new place is great, but not the same as the original. There was this giant pole in the floor in the middle of the front of the stage area, anyway, not the same as the new place. Lots of great memories there, concussions included!
ian is the only person i have found to be larger than life for me, i think he is a true role model and the way he was raised is a massive reason for that. genuinely, the only person i can look at and feel like i aspire to be that.
Sam hine!?!
Sam hane
Or sowin
Time to do a video on Samhain 😊
😬only ever read that name so I have no idea lol
Please do a video on Youth of today. They have such an interesting history
Rites of spring
And then Fugazi
Hey bro I like ur stuff. You should do one on The Screamers. “122 hours of fear” is such a brilliant song and they never came out with an “album”. I’ll be delighted to see if u do but idk much concrete info regarding the band. One of them is the brother of black flags bassist Kira, but it’d be a good one. Or “The Rocket from
The tombs”, that’d be cool too.
Ian joined Pailhead - with Al Jourgensen, Paul Barker, Bill Rieflin - first wave of industrial punk ;)
A band i have just recently learned about that needs some sort of recognition is Cortex, i’m not talking about the french jazz groups from the 70s, but rather the punk Swedish band from the 80s. please give some sort of attention to them, even if it’s a 30 second short
The best band on DISCHORD was SCREAM, saw them live in Ljubljana while promoting THIS SIDE UP,great gig,bought the first two albums, and followed them til the end.