Tongue Suction - Myofunctional Therapy Self-Assessment
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0:05 Purpose of tongue suction assessment
0:13 Ideal oral posture and swallow
0:32 High, narrow palate
0:59 Tongue range of motion, restricted frenulum (tongue tie)
1:23 Tongue suction instructions
1:44 Tongue suction assessment details, goals, abnormalities
Disclaimer - The information in this video and on this CZcams channel is not medical advice. Please discuss this information with your doctor or health professional before undertaking anything suggested on this channel.
Nobody ever thaught me that we should place our tounge on the roof of our mouth. Im 20 and have been training my mouth for about 4 month hopefully my hard work pays
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Can you update me please
Update please? 😢
Update?
OMG. I was trying out the mewing method and gosh cant even find a better explanation then urs! Tks so much!!!
hi, i just wanted to thank you for your videos and your comments. they explain perfectly well myofunctional therapy and they helped me understand what i was doing wrong.
You are very welcome. I'm happy to hear this.
Thank you for posting these! Your work is very important ❤️
Hey Ashley, this is a great exercise! I wish I knew about it earlier.
I recently had my braces removed, and within almost a week my lower teeth started relapsing! Despite the ivisalign night caps! I then had a permanent wire attached on my lower front teeth. My ortho thought my upper teeth are doing well, and left me with those clear cups. I now see my upper teeth relapsing as well! I started similar exercises to broaden the pallet, hope it helps.
Thanks for the video, very useful!
Yes, it's definitely worth assessing and training oral posture and movement in your case to help stabilize your orthodontic results. Good luck!
Please expand on this and baby steps show us how to do it
The top goes all the way to the back ??? I’m confused if the op is back I can’t settle the tongue properly ❤❤❤and thank you
I found this video while trying to Mew. I just learned this is a thing to help with aging. I was able to follow what you said with the clucking noise and the suction, but how do you keep it like that at rest?
Great video, really enjoy the assessments and content!
Thank you. Let me know if you have any questions!
I have been tongued tied for 61 years and I have seen many dentist, the holistic Dentist is the only one who told me.
I think our palates can get a bit high/narrow *because* we're not placing the tongue up there, and the tongue gets weak *because* it 'doesn't know' to try to suction up a bit... Awesome video
I would agree with this. Though sometimes there are structural limitations to tongue elevation (tongue ties) and it's not simply muscular.
I have ICR and had BSSO and LeFort surgery 2 years ago. It's wild that going through all that, nobody ever taught me about tongue posture! 🤯 My bite is opening again and it's hard to know if it's my joints or tongue posture... But now that I've been paying attention, I definitely tongue thrust!
I'm 36 years old and had braces twice, close to 4 years both times. My lower jaw movement in surgery was about 32mm. I can't help but wonder, and be a little upset, that if someone had taught me proper oral posture when I was a kid that I might not have the issues I do! 🥺
@@psychadelicccc I feel for you
@@psychadelicccc I had a similar surgery in 1981, after many years of braces in preparation, before any ORIF systems (screws and stuff), mouth wired shut for months while the bones healed. Within 2 years of surgery, little bite contact. Braces back on, hideous contraption to bite into to try to move jaw. Didn't work. Taught me to clench my teeth maybe? Gave up for decades. Have straight teeth, "nice smile", very little bite contact. 40 years later, a dentist finally told me I "tongue thrust". Discovering Dr. Mew's work now. Actually, and even worse, I think we could have changed this as young adults (and even later) and avoided this brutal surgery...I was in the ICU for days while they kept the pressure of the swelling off my brain. And the months of liquid diet slurped through teeth. (Ensure, with teeth straightened, no spaces for anything thicker) , No talking as there was a splint shoved in between, no exercise (can't breathe heavily through the nose). Vomiting through the nose was a bonus. I remember asking about that...what happens if I vomit...oh, it will come out your nose! Clearly, there was and is a better way. I think we got screwed. I am worse off for this surgery. I was in grade school when the decision was made to do this and I didn't have any hideous deformity. I had many years of orthodontia prior to the surgery, which created a more open bite in preparation for surgery...no way out. Some of the newer surgical techniques to accomplish this look slightly more elegant. But doesn't the fact that the bite just opens back up quickly after surgery suggest that the structures involved are still malleable in the adult? (The bone is healed, possibly with hardware these days!) It is clear that the shape of the face, and position of the teeth, change though out life.
Hi! Where can I get more info on pediatric myofunctional dentist/practitioner in California?
I can do it. but I wonder how I can do it with more ease... I struggle to maintain the rear part of my tongue in contact with my palette. should I start from the back? What do you think I should do to improve? to develop the strength and to make it 'default'
I must be doing something wrong. I feel no suction. And when I think I do it correct, it feels like the tongue just falls after 5-10 seconds. Should the suction feel strong? And will your tongue really just stay up in it? Please help. I feel like I’m the only one who can’t get this suction hold to work.
Thank you so much for this video! I’m 32y old and have my braces on for about a year now, estimated another 6 months. As the time goes by (and by doing this exercise + reading comments) I am noticing that my jaw is uneven (my tongue is turning to right side). It’s also overlapping my lower teeth so when I talk, I have to constantly think about my tongue, to narrow it and move out of the way, else I’ll bite it. I talked to my orthodonths but they seem to ignore it. I also have dificulties pronounciating some letters when talking + constant tongue tie.
I sing for living and for it my tongue/jaw has to be relaxed, but that’s impossible because of the problems I wrote before.
My question is…what would be the best solution for this, in your opinion?
P.s. My body posture is not so good, I’m working on it, and I have deviated septum, as well as mild scoliosis, if that is relevant. Hope you’ll answer! ❤
May I ask where you live to potentially direct you to see one of my colleagues in person?
Hi Ashley. So when I do this, I get the suction.However I don’t feel like the very back of my tongue (in my throat) is lifted. Does that part have to be lifted? If so, how do I know I’m doing it right? Sorry if this is confusing!
Hi，when i do suction hold,my tongue is asymmetric,seems like the left side of my tongue fall down little bit(The side isn’t my habit.)But if i really lift my tongue hardly the situation gets better,but still one side drops down slightly.May i ask why and anyone has same situation?
what does tongue "spilling out" when doing the suction mean? or difficulty getting the back of the tongue up? thank you for the informative video!!
Tongue "spilling out" means the tongue is overlapping onto the chewing surface of the molars. This often indicates the tongue has difficulty narrowing and/or the palate is too narrow for the tongue. "Difficulty getting the back of the tongue up" means the back 1/3 of the tongue is unable to reach the palate. To find/sense this location of your tongue, you can make a "kah" sound. When you do this, the back 1/3 of your tongue will touch your palate. You want to make sure this area of your tongue is also participating in your suction hold.
Thnxx mam
Does the oral posture enable you to link words easily with absolute ease in English??
Hello I am not able to suction with my mouth open so I am doubting if I was actually doing it right with my mouth closed this entire time. Only the tip of my tongue can reach the roof of the mouth when my mouth is open. What can I do about this.
Hi Ashley! My name is Mickey. Im not sure if it is a dumb question, but when you do the tounge suction, and perhaps the roof of the mouth widens.. will the lower jaw part also widen? I was very grateful to stumble across your channel, ive been looking for good informational videos on myofunctional therapy here!
Not a stupid question at all. The lower jaw is unlikely to widen due to putting the tongue at the roof of the mouth. One scenario I can think of that the lower dentition may widen over time by going myofunctional therapy is if a person's lips were causing much inward force on the teeth during rest and/or swallowing. If that is fixed, the lower arch may widen over time.
@@allsleepashley Thank you for your answer, i appreciate it a lot! 😄
Hello Ashley! Thank you for this demonstration it helped me a lot!
So, i can do suction well and can click well but because i have been hard mewing, my palate become too high arched making it hard for me to hold the suction and swallow correctly. How do i get my palate back to normal without having it shrinking in terms of width?
Also, when i do my suction to collect the saliva, my tongue pushes against my bottom teeth and my 4 bottom teeth got crooked in the span of 3 days!
Please give me any tips to help my circumstances and fix this high arched palate issue. I tried to gently rest my tongue on the palate but there is endless saliva. I think there is a correlation to high arched palate and saliva production.
I’m currently facing this as well. Any advice?
Hi Ashley,
I have a question about tongue suction. When I suction my tongue to the roof of my mouth, it falls to one side. On the left side, it stays up, but on the right side, it falls down. I also have TMJ issues on the left side.
Can you please tell me why this is happening and what I can do to fix it?
Thank you
hi. I try this out. Im 27 right now. while suction, I felt the palet area is lower and only tip of my young is touching.
Hi Ashley sorry for troubling. I'm 19 years old and I've always been a mouth breather. I'm at the end of puberty, it started when I was 7 years old but it hasn't totally finished yet. Do you think I can already develop more forward growth by correcting the tongue posture? I have a normal (not too narrow but not big) palate but a very wide and thick tongue
Hi Leonardo, it is difficult to say how much you could influence forward growth of the upper jaw at this age. I suggest training a palatal seal posture of your tongue and training tongue coordination. If you are very diligent with this, you may see positive changes in your palate/jaw growth. There is no risk to doing this and your outcomes could be positive or no change at all... making it even more worth trying.
Thank you very much! I do have the feeling the pressing a bit too hard. When I’m trying to soften the suction, I lose it. What can I do about this?
Practice. You should be able to increase your suction hold time with repetition. Always start here and if it's not improving then reach back out.
Hey I’m 17 years old , and my wisdom tooth has started to appear , should I proceed with mewing to prevent potential extractions ? I’ve been mewing for 3 days now , no pains as such and I touch my incisors as molars have 3-4 sheet gap in between . Also in relaxed position I end up having half a centimetre of gap between the teeth .
1) Will mewing fix narrow palate in my bottom jaw as well ?
2) now I’ve started to feel a force on the molars of my upper jaw (right side ) . Is that normal ?
3) I place my tongue at beginning of the bump of my upper palate ( 1 cm behind my teeth )
Thanks for this video 😃. Have a good day
Edit : I’ve also noticed scalloping (the ridges , but I believe it’s more of the tongue taking the shape of the sideways contact more than it being bit by molars )
I doubt mewing will widen a narrow lower jaw. It may promote the lower jaw moving more forward if the tongue is up and forward and promoting more forward growth of the upper jaw.
I can't answer your question number 2 because I do not know the specifics of your mouth. If you have a cant, some form of malocclusion making your R molars heavier, or a certain neck (or ribcage, pelvis, etc) posture causing heavier R molar contact it could you to feel a heavier force on the right upper jaw.
I recommend continuing to improve your oral posture as it will only help the rest of your body breathe and move better.
I have been doing some exercises to correct tongue posture for quite awhile now (maybe about a year). It takes so much muscle and strain to keep my tongue in contact with the roof of my mouth, especially the back part of it (closer to the throat). I also can't breath as well with my tongue up back there. I have a very high narrow palate (despite having had a palatal expander as a kid). Is the tongue strain and exhaustion from working against gravity normal? I don't have a tongue tie or anything...
Shauna, have you been assessed by anyone in person? Also, what is your overall posture like? Is your head more forward or retracted? These things can affect tongue position.
Yeah I feel that, I’m trying not to strain my tongue by practicing proper tongue position too much. It does take a lot of effort and it kinda hurts while I practice.
Hello Ashley, Thanks for posting this video! I've done a tongue tie Grade-4 release on my 35th year adulthood (before 6 months). I keep doing some tongue exercises almost daily, but not able to get the suction done properly yet - I can only get the front part touching the higher pallet - and the back is not there yet. This is impacting my way of life like mouth breathing while sleeping, bad long face/jaw shape etc.. Are there any recommendations on how to get the tongue muscles stronger quickly post tongue tie release ?
How long ago did you have the tongue tie release?
@@allsleepashley I had it during Feb/Mar’21 timeframe. Not sure how to get the tongue muscles stronger enough to be able to do the suction..
@@sampadhota3598 Did you do exercises to train the tongue suction immediately before and immediately after the surgery? Do you feel like you have more range of motion of your tongue to elevate than you did before surgery or did it end up scarring and becoming more limited? I want to rule this out, as this could be a remaining issue that is limiting your suction ability.
@@allsleepashley yeah the tongue is doing better in terms of elevation and not blocking the airway however still not ready for the suction with the back of tongue not sticking to the upper pallet yet
@@sampadhota3598 Have you worked with any therapists in-person? Have you done the entire myofunctional therapy assessment in this series? If so, are you noticing any other deficits?
Mam pls take live sessions pls mam on youtube
any high palate fixes im thinking MSE but my upper jaw isnt abnormally narrow
Hi Ashley! Suction, success! Even the suction, noise! In terms of the tongue being large that it spills over, yes. I have been putting my tongue in a way to cover my entire throat, and if I do it in a certain way, I definitely have spillage over my upper teeth in both sides. I noticed too though, I can adjust it so that there’s no spillage. In both positions, I’m not sure if I’m doing either one correctly. How would I know it’s the correct one? Thanks and thanks again for the chat today! Regine
When i do this the skin and muscles under my chin bulge down. Is this muscle tightness and/or tongue tie?
This is impossible for me because the moment I do it saliva generates and instantly unlocks the suction in place.
So what do we do if the tongue spills out over the back teeth when the tongue is pressed up? Narrow high palate here. Worsened with childhood extractions. 😢
thanks for the great Video, I have a question: does having thin nasal channel any effect on our tongue position?
When you say nasal channel, what do you mean?
Nostrils? Nasal valves? Nasal cavity as a whole?
This will help me better answer your question. Thanks!
Mam my tounge reaches perfectly at the right side of my palate but not left and by doing this constantly, i found that my only right part of my chin is getting little forward than on my left. I having so many confusions. Pls make my confusions cleared or take live sessions quickly mam pls as a humble request
Hi, i watched your videos and they have been really helpful, the only problem i have is that my palate is pretty narrow and now whenever i try to suction hold only right side of the tongue fully fits into my palate while the other side just roughly holds onto the teeth, i would love it if you could help me with that
Can you easily narrow both sides of your tongue when it is not suctioned?
Hi Ashley, I'm nto sure if you are still answering questions but I am struggling with this. Although I think I have decent tongue function, the right and left side of my tongue gently brush against my side teeth, almost as if my tongue is slightly too wide? what can I do about that?
I would start with doing tongue-narrowing exercises. I suggest you watch my video about the narrow tongue press-up to help you with this. Then combine this narrowing movement with your suction.
I held this position, and the sides of my tongue slightly stick out of my teeth, I have a large jaw, but my teeth are very close together and narrow. I'm not sure what's causing this, but it might be due to strong buccinator muscles.
I've started mewing recently, and what I've noticed is that scooping up saliva so that I can swallow normally, is very difficult. The swallowing itself is easy after practicing a few cheesy smiles. But I have a very hard time collecting the saliva on the sides of my mouth, without using my cheek muscles, as it might make my buccinator muscles even larger and make me look chubby. What could be the solution to this? How do I scoop up my tongue sweep saliva from all corners of my mouth without engaging my cheek muscles?
When you swallow, do you have a good suction (centered hollowed and edges raised) to hold the saliva? It is okay to use the buccinators slightly at the beginning of a swallow to help gather saliva onto the tongue. Buccinator muscles should be used in the initial phases of swallowing to help create negative pressure inside the mouth. We want them to coordinate with the actions of the tongue and jaw and make sure they are not doing all of the work (along with mentalis). Toned buccinator muscles will actually make the cheeks less puffy.
How to get the backpart of my Tongue up on the roof of my mouth?
I am 70 years old. When I suction my tongue to my palate, sometimes the lower right side of my tongue hangs slightly. Would this be because my tongue is just old or what would it mean?
Hello I just observe that while swollowing my lower lips get suck inside and and cheeks also get suck is it correct or I have to do some changes
Hi thank you for this video. I had a question. How many reps and long do you recommend holding the suction at a time?
Try working your way up to a 60-second hold over the next month or so. I recommend doing suctions 3x/day and doing at least5-10 reps of your maximum hold. This will obviously vary on an individual level like any exercise would.
@@allsleepashley do you mean do the suction hold with your mouth open? How many seconds to start off with? It’s easier for me to do it with my mouth open, if I close my mouth I can’t suction it and get the back of my tongue up. I do have a posterior tongue tie too.
Does it improve jaw structure in adults around the age 28 and above?
I heard that if adults keep the tongue up on the roof of their mouth and keep it there the jaw structure remodeling and getting better with time.
The difference in the process between kids and adults is just the speed of results - kids likley get faster results than adults... so adults can achieve same results as kids from "mewing" , it's just require more time and persistence.
Is that true?
I have not seen the jaw structure of adults change within my clinic from doing myofunctional therapy and changing oral habits. Though, that is not to say it is not possible. Teeth are more likely to move than the jaw changing structure. Many adults I have worked with experience improvements in sleep, breathing, and pain, despite not seeing jaw structure change.
So should the edges be all the way up and the center curled down or the opposite ?
Edges up, center down
does it matter if my tongue touches the sides of my side teeth just a little bit?
Hi, i have a high palate so if i put the tip of the tongue ont the alveolar front ridge i struggle to put the rest of the tongue on the palate because the ridge is lower than the hard palate...it's frustrating and it hurts, what should i do?
Where do you live? It may be worth seeing an airway dentist or myofunctional therapy for an in-person assessment. This sounds like more of a limited space issue than a tongue issue. Though, it is likely a combination.
hello, thank you for the video.
I have a lower jaw that has recessed backwards and I want to fix it.
I'm 16yo will it have any affect on me?
and I have difficulty creating the suction on the back of my tongue.
Training your tongue/oral posture would be a great place to start addressing this. It's difficult for me to go more in-depth about recommendations. May I ask where you are located? There may be someone to see in-person near you.
Hi, for me the tip and mid part of the tongue comes into the suction but the suction is more stronger in the right side and I cannot feel the same smt of suction in the left side. What shud I do to have a more even suction?
First step is to practice this regularly in front of the mirror to try to correct it by coaching yourself. There are specific exercises that may help but it's tough to give you anything specific without doing an evaluation. May I ask where you are located? It may be useful to see someone in person.
What do you do when you need to swallow saliva? Let the tongue drop down and reposition? I can’t seem to do it with my tongue up. Thank you for your time potentially!
Smile - The other way you can find your ideal tongue position is to smile really wide (we’re talking about really cheesy smile), raise your eyebrows, and try to swallow without unclenching your teeth. You should feel your tongue rise to the roof of your mouth into its ideal resting position.
TONGUE THRUST CORRECTION PROGRAM
You swallow with your tongue up .
Only the tip of the tongue is stuck to the roof.. I can't bring the whole thing.. Helpp
What if tongue is putting more pressure on one side
Hi ashley. I am really hoping if you could help me out with this. I have been trying to put my tongue on the roof of my mouth since the last 1 year. I am unable to do it as i have a narrow palate, which also caused my lower face to drop down giving me a recessed chin. I try and fold my tongue to fit it between my dental arch but then i dont know how to swallow with a suction and making a wave-like motion. Could you please tell me how to fit the back-third of the tongue in the narrow palate and also how to make a suction-swallow while in this position? Please help.
Yes, try to make less of a wave than you are trying. I would suggest practicing tongue narrowing several times per day focusing on the back of the tongue. Watch my narrow tongue press-up video. This will help narrow the back over time. Always watch yourself in the narrow to make this better. To swallow, think of putting to liquid/food in the cave of the tongue, pressing the edges of the tongue up like a suction and then pressing the center of the tongue up while keeping the edges in place which will push the contents backward.
@@allsleepashley got it......will surely try this. Thanks a ton.
Hi Ashley, I can't breathe while doing this. Is there a fix?
Things to try: 1. Make sure the tip of your tongue is touching the back of your upper front teeth. If this doesn't work, 2. tilt your chin slightly up.
Hey ashley i got a question i have no problem getting my back third up but when i do the suction my hyoid/back third of my tounge drops a little bit is that same normal
The center part of the back of the tongue drops or the center and the edges of the back of the tongue drops?
@@allsleepashley sorry i kind of worded that weird so basically i can put my whole tongue on my palate but it doesn’t have any suction so it’s hard to keep it there so i’m trying to learn how to do the suction hold the first 2/3rds of my tongue is on the palate but when i do it but my hyoid/ back third of my tounge kind of drops a little bit
@@user-kq9pi7ih4f There are some variables here... are you doing this with your mouth open and if so minimally, moderately, or maximally open?
Hi Ashley. I've been struggling for the last 2 years to learn this, actually my first time searching it up. I've been trying to put it at the top, but just noticed that I only have control over the middle (front and back) and front left side of my tongue, when I lay it on the roof of my mouth only those 3 areas go up and suction on (most control and strength is on the front left side of my tongue). Any exercises I can do to strengthen the right side (front and back) and left back side of my tongue so I can lift it and lay it there?
There are several different exercises you could do to improve the symmetry of your tongue here. One that often works well is tongue swipes. I don't yet have a video of this posted. You'll place your tongue between your cheek and your teeth and slowly slide it from your far left top molar all the way around to the far right top molar with your lips sealed. Then keep repeating. I can't say whether this is a great match for what you need because I haven't done an evaluation on you, but this may be worth trying. The goal would be symmetry in terms of how far you can move your tongue and that it goes both directions with ease. This is a good place to start because it can work on range of motion, strength, proprioception, and coordination all at once. I'll eventually post a video of this.
while doing this infront of the mirror i notice that i have a narrow palate cause my tongue comes on my teeth while i keep my tongue on the roof of mouth but i can keep my tongue on the roof without any issue so is it okay ?and by time my palate will get expand or i have to expand my palate first with expandeR and starts mewing?
You can train your tongue suction so that your tongue does not overflow onto your teeth and actually fits well inside your palate. Despite a narrow palate, most of my patients are to train this. I'm unsure what you meant by your last question.
When i am doing the sunction hold, the back part of my tongue goes away from the upper pallate after time. And when i touch the part under my jawline, over the larynx, it doesnt fell that tight llike when i push the toungue against the upper pallate. It seems MUCH weaker!
could you may help me?
Are you initially able to get the back of your tongue to the palate when you initiate the suction? If so, how long can you maintain this before it drops down off of the palate? Have you been practicing for this a while or just begun trying the movement?
@@allsleepashley let me tell you what i do: I say "ng", than i put the tip on the pallate and then i do the suctionhold. And exactly this moment it drops. I do this for a month rn but very unregular...
@@allsleepashley and i have another question: Sometimes, like when i wake up, my upper pallate doesnt feel like "normal", it feels different. It feels like my tongue isnt straight on the upper pallate, its much more aslant. But only because my upper pallate feels irregular, like one side is higher then the other one😂sounds strange, but i hole you understand me...
@@7thaphostlejudas319 It is possible, and not uncommon, for one side of the palate to be higher and a different shape than the other side of the palate.
What should our tongue posture be like at rest?
Should the tongue be sucked up against the palate or pushing or perhaps a suck to get hold of and pushing against the palate? Please and thanks
A gentle suction of the tongue to the palate should be a goal for most people (there are always exceptions depending on their typical oral posture, neck posture, hyoid position, etc).
Meaning the edges are up and the center is hollowed from front to back of the tongue.
@@allsleepashley How about when we do "mewing"?
I thought that if we do not apply any pushing force at all against the palate, the suction will only bring our maxilla and face back and down?
Please advise.
Thank you,
Al
@@tapsubscribe To create a suction, you do need an upward force of the edges of the tongue pressing into the palate. I cannot speak to "mewing", as I am not familiar with the specifics that Dr. John and Mike Mew are teaching.
@@allsleepashley
1) Is it better to push more with the tongue against the palate or is just getting the suction enough?
2) I thought pushing more would help the maxilla stay/grow upright better, is that wrong?
3) How come the middle of the tongue isn't engaged? Isn't the *entire* tongue pressing/sucking be better for upwards growth again?
Thank you so much for your help to clarify all this!
And what I got about Orthotropics/mewing basically:
"The ideal development of the jaws and teeth is dependent on correct oral posture with the 1) tongue resting on the palate, 2) the lips sealed and the 3) teeth in light contact for between four and eight hours a day.”
So simply by adopting this, especially the teeth in contact. You force the maxilla up and forwards.
I can get suction but it presses against my teeth at the sides.
Can anyone help me please? I got scalloped tongue because of mewing! It's so painful. But mewing helps with my overjet so I wanna continue. My palate is narrow and maybe that's why its happening! 😢
Hey I got a question
Do I have to suck all the air out when doing this or have some air inside the front teeth?
Thanks.
Can you please explain what you mean by "have some air inside the front teeth"?
@@allsleepashley idk how to explain that
Like the vacuum maybe
idk lol 😅🥲
@@xNINJAYT Negative pressure? :) Yes, there should be some negative pressure in the center of your tongue. It doesn't need to be extreme.
@@allsleepashley oki
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I notice when I do this that it requires no effort to place the left side of my tongue to the roof but the right side of my tongue is lower and doesn’t want to go up as much. My tongue will naturally rest closer to the left side at the roof and not the right. Is there any way I can correct my tongue strength on the right side to hold it to the roof easier?
This may be coming from an asymmetrical hyoid bone or cervical spine (or anywhere else in your body). I suggest training the tongue for symmetry as you practice this in front of the mirror. It will take patients and persistence.
@@allsleepashley Are there any specific exercises or anything you would recommend I can do to try to correct it?
@@glamoroustwist7482 I will aim to get some of these exercise options up on youtube in the coming months.
I just stared doing this 2 days in a row Since I have braces . Is it normal for the bottom of my tongue to get pain or soreness ?
This is not uncommon. This soreness is often due to muscles of the tongue working in a way that is new to them and/or stretching of tissues underneath the tongue. It should decrease with repetition.
Hello, is it normal to feel pressure in my head when doing this ?
Where is the pressure in your head?
My tongue spills over to my right side, what does that mean?
In some mewing videos they say that the tongue should be pushing upwards and forward on rood of the mouth so as to grow the maxilla forward but when you suck tongue on the roof of the mouth you can't push with your tongue forward and upward. Iam confused.. Plzz help
You can do both at the same time if you minimize the suction effort and push slightly more forward with the tongue.
my tongue edges stays up and centre part of the tongue stays down,what should i do?LOVE from INDIA
Is it okay if edges of mu tongue touches upper side teeth and can i change my facial structure at age of 18?
Yes, but ideally, you don't want your tongue overflowing onto the upper side teeth. You may be able to change your facial structure to some degree over time with consistent posture change, repetition with exercises, and nasal breathing. This is very difficult to study in teens because the face changes in many ways during these years, but we do know that bone adapts to pressure, and changing the forces applied to your skull from within your mouth and from your facial muscles has the potential to influence your facial structure over time.
Ashley please help me how to press my tongue on the top of my mouth. I really cant since my palate is narrow and high.
It may be worth starting with the tongue exercises I have posted that will teach you how to better narrow and suction your tongue the palate. It's difficult for me to make specific suggestions without doing an evaluation on you.
@@allsleepashley thanks Ashley! to put it simply, I can't mew because of my tongie tie and my high arc palate. I cant reach to the top and the only way to do is by using the tip of my tongue, not the whole thing. is there any way you can get an evaluation on me? Im desperate, thanks!
@@FBI-bb3el Yes feel free to sign up for a consultation at sommerspt.com or a wellness assessment (since I assume you are not in the state of california).
Hey,
I have been trying to do it for a while now.
Whenever i am doing it, i have two knots under the chin?
Am i doing something wrong?
It's difficult for me to say without more information. Where are these knots located under your chin? Can you please give me more details?
@@allsleepashleyI also have noticed those two knots under the chin, they seem to be placed under the jaw at the two corners, I’ve been struggling with that because my tongue seems to have proper tongue posture but those two knots come out and doesn’t seem right, besides that I barely notice that in other people faces
I can feel pain at the back of my mouth and at the base of the neck.
From simply doing the assessment? There could be a variety of reasons for this.
I have a question : if my tongue is spilling out of the borders of my teeth (no in the front, in the back),what does it mean?
Potentially that you have difficulty narrowing the back of your tongue (more than the front or middle) or your palate is too narrow in the back. Or potentially a combination of these two things.
@@allsleepashley Thank you so much for your immediate response! Is there anything I can do to improve this?
@@minealvabveb782 It's difficult to give you specific advice when I have not seen you. In general, it's helpful to start with exercises that help you learn how to narrow the back of your tongue. The narrow tongue press-up video I have posted may help you with this.
@@allsleepashley Thank you!
I can't really make the sound nor create the suction. If I try, my tongue spills out of the borders of my teeth. Can I still create a suction hold?
If your tongue is spilling out onto the teeth, I suggest doing regular exercises to improve your ability to narrow your tongue. From there, it will depend on if you're able to elevate the sides of your tongue as you hollow out the center. This is a foundational movement for a suction. You can practice this in the mirror-- elevate the sides of your tongue as your center moves downward. Your lips can help guide this and your tongue can be slightly out of your mouth. There can be several reasons why you are unable to suction. Begining to address this by improving posture and movement of the tongue is the least invasive/cheapest way to start! If you want more detailed suggestions, it may be useful to see a local myofunctional therapist for an in-depth assessment.
@@allsleepashley Thank you so much for the quick and detailed answer! I am 18, female and my "mew indicator line" and intermolar width are a few millimetres off the normal spectrum. I am going to make an appointment with a local myofunctional therapist. Is there a chance that this can be corrected without surgical intervention?
@@blancheharris2457 At your age, you may be able to make some good changes by changing your oral habits. It's difficult for me to comment on surgery since I have not evaluated you and don't know your personal goals.
Does this kind of exercise exagerate upper teeth to move forward ?
Bcz i feel like it
Yes, it can promote forward movement of the teeth and depending on a person's age, forward growth of the upper jaw. This will depend on the position of your tongue, how frequently the exercise is done, a person's age, and various other factors....
@@allsleepashley felt some sore and pain in muscles around neck when i started yesterday
I mean is it normal ? And even i cant keep the position maintained
@@drsagar_25 This exercise may cause delayed soreness in the neck and tongue muscles if you are not used to holding your tongue in this position. It is very difficult to maintain, I suggest practicing daily until it becomes easy to maintain for at least a minute.
Everything is fine but my other muscles tense up, my temporal massester and facial muscles to be precise, even with suction hold please help
If you don't try as hard is this still true? I often have patients who put in more effort than needed and then every muscle becomes tight.
@@allsleepashley I do light suction
@@allsleepashley so no pressure
@@FightTheMonopoly So should be light pressure around the edges of your tongue and negative pressure in the center.
It's so difficult for me to give you specific advice without seeing you. It may be a tongue coordination or range of motion issue that is resulting in you over-straining all of these other muscles.
Only one side of my tongue is touching the top what should I do?
I suggest doing certain exercises to regain tongue range of motion, ability to sense your tongue (proprioception), and symmetry. Tongue swipes are a good place to start with this, along with practicing the suction in the mirror and intentionally making it more symmetrical. I don't yet have a tongue swipes video, but intend to at some point this year.
You said two variables "first variable is that tongue edges are all the way up and the center is curled out and the opposite the second is that , the center is pushed up and the outside is falling down. Among those which is correct first variable or second?
you want the edges up and the center down/hollow
The other side of my tongue is spilling out. How can I fix this please?
Train symmetry persistently in front of a mirror.
And practice narrowing your tongue.
Should I be feeling how my tongue is touching the line that connects the hard palate with the soft one?
Not everyone can sense this, but yes, you want the tongue elevated from the front just behind the top front teeth to the soft palate.
@@allsleepashley Thanks, also is having your tongue exactly at the center of the roof of the mouth a requirement or not? (By that I mean that the center of the tongue touches the center of the roof) Since my tongue is either small or my palate is too Wide and It seems to be more comfortable placing my tongue on one side of the roof and not the center
@@FatMonkeySexMonkey There is no "requirement". It depends on what your goals are.
@@allsleepashley well by doing that what I wanted to achieve is fixing my facial assymetry so in that case I would need to put it on the center? Although right now I just noticed that one side of my palate (roof of the mouth) is wider than the other one (possibly caused because I used to put my tongue on that side more than the other one). So what im doing right now is trying to engage my tongue more on the less developed side in order to get a "symmetrical palate". Should I keep going this way or stick to putting my tongue on the center? (I do feel it would be better keep going this way since later on It would be easier to engage my tongue on the center)
@@allsleepashley my tongue is flat on the roof I just apply more pressure to a specific side
I have been trying to rest my tongue on the roof my mouth from few months and not that Iam able to do it Iam not able to breathe and I feel uneasy.
I want to make sure I understand what you are saying-- Are you saying that now that you can rest your tongue at the roof of your mouth you have difficulty breathing and feel uneasy or are you saying that you are still unable to rest your tongue at the roof of your mouth and are having difficulty breathing and you feel uneasy?
@@allsleepashley Now Iam able to rest the tongue on the roof of my mouth but when I breathe there is more hissing sound than before and Iam having difficulty breathing.. Specially while sleeping
@@Deepak-xo8pt This may be an indicator that your maxilla is limited in forward growth and thus, you don't have enough space in your palate for your tongue. It's difficult for me to fully say, though, without doing an evaluation and looking at the full picture.
Can't get the back portion of my tongue to touch the top, help please
It's difficult for me to give specific advice in your case without doing an evaluation. It is likely a combination of poor tongue coordination and range of motion, along with a high palate. The tongue portion is the easiest to change, so I suggest starting here.
@@allsleepashley thank you, it's been 2 weeks and now I am able to get most of my tongue on thr palate
I can't get the middle of my tongue to touch my palate, and I think it is very high. Also when I rise the root of my tongue I can't breathe
Depending on your goals, it may be helpful to talk with a myofunctional therapist and/or an airway dentist.
@@allsleepashleyBasically I want to try mewing but my tongue tie won't allow me
@@MrGTAVModstoSA Where are you located?
@@allsleepashley Uruguay, South America
@@MrGTAVModstoSA I suggest trying to find a myofunctional therapist in your area. I know in Brazil there are many. I am not sure if this is true of Uruguay. If you have a hard time finding someone, I'd be happy to do an online consultation to help you out. You can find me at sommerspt.com.
How to stop tongue splinting ?
It depends on why it's happening. This is a similar answer to your question about scalloping. In addition, training your tongue on what to do during the first 2 phases of swallowing would be the third piece.
you speak but mam you also show how to do reapeatly
I can't really open my mouth but my tongue connects to the roof
Hey I tried doing this and I can but whenever I do it my neck poofs and and makes me look fat 😭 I heard that while I’m doing this it’s supposed to make the bottom of the mouth flat it’s doing the opposite
Can you explain what you mean by making the bottom of your mouth flat?
@@allsleepashley the fat under the chin is increasing
@@vex7830 Are you tucking your chin while doing this? If so, try to avoid this.
@@allsleepashley no I’m not
@@vex7830 If you press your entire tongue up to the palate (front to back) does it eliminate this issue?
Hello! I really want to know what to do if a palate is too narrow for correct oral posture. I am 15 and feel like I need an expander in order to achieve enough room, but my orthodontist doesn’t really want to give me that since there is nothing to expand my lower jaw. What should I do?
Where do you live? There are ways to expand the lower teeth. Does your orthodontist not have access to or not have experience with these expanders?
@@allsleepashley I’m not sure if she has experience. I’m from EU. I’ll definitely ask her on friday and maybe we can find a solution.
I can’t tell the back part of tongue please help
Make the sound "kah" and you'll feel the back, center part of your tongue press up to the roof of the mouth. Use this spot as a reference to find the back of your tongue when you suction. You want the edges of your tongue at this location to be pressed to the palate during your full tongue suction.
@@allsleepashley if I say Kah and chin tuck will I be good?
@@chasegainsovahoes663 No need to bias a chin tuck. Just say "kah" in your normal head and neck posture. This should allow to you feel the back of your tongue.
@@allsleepashley bett thank you 🙏🏾
@@chasegainsovahoes663 You're welcome!
Should you suck your tongue on the palate or push it? Because when you suck your tongue on the roof of your mouth the lower muscles of the tongue i think its called genioglossus will not touch the lower teeth, will that make your teeth crooked? Because the cheeks are pushing them inward and they have no support. But when you push the tongue the muscle will touch the lower teeth.
So what is the right way to mew?
And i found it is nearly impossible to do both at the same time. Also you cant suck the root of your tongue on the palate but saying "nnnggg" will place it on the roof but not suck it.
Omar, you have good questions. I suggest doing your version of sucking the tongue to the palate. I have not seen this make the lower teeth crooked, but you bring a valid point. Because lip position varies between people and dental occlusion varies from person to person, this is difficult to study. Typically the upper teeth should overlap the lower teeth slightly and thus the lips would contact the upper teeth before the lower teeth... maybe this is what prevents the lower teeth from becoming crooked. If it is very difficult to elevate the back of your tongue and suction... this could be an issue with soft tissue restriction under your tongue, tongue coordination, or high/narrow palate. Or some combination of the three.
So you should suck your tongue on the roof of the mouth but not thrust it on the palate?
Because They say that the muscles between your chin and throat should be lifted up when you are mewing, and the only way i can do that is by thrusting all my tongue on the roof of my mouth, but sucking it on the other hand does not lift up my throat muscles (maybe just a little bit but not like thrusting it) also thrusting it will make the tongue push forward and sucking make it feels like its pushing backwards.
Thanks for replying
@@omarafifi4560 Hi Omar, who is "They"? What is your goal with the exercise? This will determine my answer to your questions.
Everybody who is talking about this technique "mewing" (I dont if its the same as your practice or maybe similar to it) on youtube they say that the muscles under the jaw should be lifted up, and also dr.mike mew says the same in one of his videos.
My goal was to enhance my facial features.
@@omarafifi4560 The tongue should have the ability to both suck to the palate and to press into the palate. I like to train the suction as it prepares you for a proper swallow. If you goal is to elevate the bottom of the chin maximally, then you should press the entire tongue up.
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I cn feel some suction but my pallate is high plz help
May I ask in which country (or state if in the US) you live so I can help you find someone in-person to help?
@@allsleepashley hmm m from india in person is not possible
I also have deep bite
@@sunlight5106 Your age may affect my recommendation. In what age range are you in?
@@allsleepashley 25
N i realised it affct my facial shapr
my tongue feels like its touching my teeth how can i fix this
Your front teeth or side teeth? Or both?
@@allsleepashley side teeth
@@AbdulRahman-hy4wk Are you able to narrow your tongue? Is there scalloping (ridges) on the edge of your tongue?
Are you a swimmer, your upper body looks strong?
When I was much younger, yes.
MEWING
the sound is not good I am quite disappointed
That may mean it's worth practicing :)
My life was a lie... I thought its impossible to touch the top of your mouth with your tongue while open it... it because I have tongue tie
You may be able to still get it to the roof of the mouth with consistent and specific exercises and training. I've seen this in the clinic.