Adjust Your RC Car Alignment - How-To
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- In this video we show you the general technique for adjusting your vehicle's toe and camber to improve the handling.
Parts used in this video are:
RPM Precision Camber Gauge, Universal (RPM70992) goo.gl/QQwsyB
RPM Toe - In Gauge, Universal (RPM70492 )goo.gl/uJ2nd5
Traxxas Tool Set (TRA2748X) goo.gl/sqihyg
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4 years past and still helping out. Thank you for sharing.
It’s crazy how much your voice reminds me of Seth rogen
This is solid gold. So many new CZcamsrs out there making videos that don’t know squat about RCs. Thank you guys so much for putting good info out there.
Wow !This is just what I needed to know guys. Very informative and alot of help to newbies. Don't listen to any of the negative comments you get. You guys help all the rc people who don't know these things and need to learn. 👍
very informative! Most guides I have seen say "turn this for that" but never clearly explain WHY you want certain adjustments. Thanks! Now to order those gauges...
Thanks Will, we try to make it as informative as it is possible been a small shop. Please check the description for direct links of all the products we used in this video.
I like how from a mechanics POV everything he's saying is spot on.😂
Your videos are very helpful. Thank you guys for what you do. Keep the hobby alive.
I just wanted to thank you it's very helpful
Comprehensive, information packed video.... BUT, you completely overlooked showing us how to actually USE the Toe Gauge!
Toe we should be able to set ourselves from seeing if it pulls. I did my alighnment with a ruler. Works just as well
eyeball is the best method...
Something must be wrong with my eye because I can’t seem to get my rustler to drive straight
I.thought he did...it's pretty self explanatory tho...
@@andyb9994he explained what toe is and what kind of toe setting is best suited for eg speed runs vs track racing etc…but did not show clearly how to use the gadget to measure toe angle. All we saw was one corner of the gadget and him sliding it about…def was not as in-depth as the camber guage.
As someone else suggested in the comments - using a ruler would do the job.
Thank you!! You guys have helped me so much! I love your videos and have learned so much. I never really understood how to correctly adjust camber and toe. Until now!! Thanks guys!
10/2020-And your video is still helping people out. I had no clue where to begin with the alignment on my E-REVO VXL and RUSTLER VXL. And this video alone was informative and in depth just enough to help me to make successful adjustments to my trucks. Thank you for the video, and I'll be on the lookout for more from you. Thank you so much
**LIKED, SUBSCRIBED & DEFINITELY RECOMMENDED"
Same.
Great video. Thanks for the information. I'll finally be able to set up my car correctly.
New to the hobby, I appreciate the information and specially the energy. Cheers! :)
You guys are great!! Thanks for all the help!!! 😆😆
Anytime, thanks for the comment!👍
Great video even in 2021! Thanks guys!
Great video,well explained 👍 Thank you
Thank you sir for the information hoping this gets to you so looking at my truck today I noticed on the left hand side the front wheel look like the top was kind of tilted inward and on the right hand side which would be the driver side looking at it the wheel was straight up and down should I adjust this
True mechanic talks 🔥🙏🏾
Good video! Great how to.
Nice video. Starts at 5min though. You guys are great.
Great explanation! I'm in Orange County, will definitely stop in for some parts for my Stampede 4x4 VXL!
Awesome! We open everyday 10am-8pm and on Sunday 10am-3pm
Thanks for the tips guys, just got given a big RC car and had no clue how to adjust the front left wheel, as it's "toed out" way more than the right. Liked and subscribed! I will be shooting some videos of the Bugsta soon, watch this space 😀🇬🇧
We're happy to help! Ride safe!😎
Southpaw RC I have some issue know in 2020
this was super helpful, thanks so much
You guys are the best at explaining
Thank you!
Great job guys! Always watch your videos even if its someting I already know about. Keep it up
Thanks, we appreciate that.
Thanks so much this video was very informative
Great video, keep up the great work🙂
Thank you Susie! Will do!
you guys are awesome
Thanks guys!
I have a Arrma Granite 4x4 Blx so dose a basher have to worry about to the toe and camber on that so much
I have a store bought RC car, what does wheel alignment do on that
Still helping in 2024 thank you
Hey guys very good and very informative
Appreciate your feedback! Thanks;)
make more how to bro...i really like ur channel 👊
so would turning the wheels and then setting the camber to 0⁰ work for optimal turning? Meaning turn wheels full right then set left wheel then turning full left and set the right wheel! Or would it be better to only do half turn?
Why no more videos. I really enjoyed these.
I think I'd measure the shaft length in between the turnbuckle ends with calipers, they should be perfectly even. and then make equal adjustments. It worked well this way for helicopters anyhow.
How about caster. That important too.
What does the groove represent on the tie rod?
Are those numbers for camber and toe for the front and Rear measurements? And are those numbers for both truck and buggy?
To finish explaining how to actually measure the toe in or out (seems he forgot). Using that same toe gauge, you will put the gauge across the front where the toe gauge has points at each end that you’ll align to an exact point on each front tire (either the center line of tire or furthest edge of tread of each tire). Do this across the front, write down measurement, then turn gauge around and measure again across the back of tires (using the same exact point on tire you used on front). The toe gauge will bender the vehicle and points will now face forward for second measurement. Write down the second measurement from across the back of front tires. The difference between the two measurements is your toe (in or out). If equal (rarely), you are already at zero and can adjust from there (make adjustment on both sides equally).
If the front measurement is wider (or higher) then the rear, you have toe-OUT, if the front measurement is narrower then the back, you have toe-IN. Now, using your turnbuckle wrench, you’ll adjust the steering links that run to the back side of each wheel hub, in or out a quarter turn on each side, measure again, until your distance is equal front and rear. “Equal” puts you at 0 toe. Lastly, now (assuming you want 1° of toe-out) adjust until the measurements are 1/16” wider in front measurement, then the rear measurement.
Note:
It’s actually a little easier to use two gauges (one across front and one across rear of front tires), so you don’t have to keep flipping gauge around and moving vehicle as much.
Kinda wish he’d have finished explaining how to take the measurements, as this is a pretty important setting. He was dead-on with why it’s important and what toe in or out does, but I wouldn’t call where he left off as “self-explanatory” by any means. If you’re looking for an explanation, then you’re already past “self explanitory”.
There are also (7-years later), MANY other settings that are able to be changed. Bump-steer, Ackerman, Caster, Ride height, & kpi, to name a few. RTR kits may still only have a couple adjustments, but anything else has a lot, including multiple suspension/shock adjustments, as well as dampening of both shocks and differentials. Hope this helped a little on the “toe”, it’s not as easy to explain without pics/vids. Just remember to measure using the exact same line front and rear, because the adjustments tolerances are so minimal. Using the molded line around center of tread is typically best, but nowadays there isn’t always a center line of tires, so you’ll need to go to where tread meets the sidewall, then note the difference between the measurements.
I wish these guys were in my town!
We run positive camber on the left side at my local tracks when were running dirt oval
Thanks for the tip Jeff!
@@Rcstreetshop hey thank you for the video!👍👍
I'm having an issue with my hoss vxl, it seems to wiggle as if I where turning back and forth when reversing at medium to high speeds. When I go forward its fine. Would that be an alignment issue and if so how would I fix that?
Really helpfull
Thank you for the comment!
Great video - thanks. I just upgraded my turnbuckles and my wheels were way out of whack.
Did you use a gauge to fix it?
Does this stop the car from spinning in circles? When I hit the gas my rustler spins in circles and I can't find a way to fix it .
Should the cambered setting in degrees be the same for the front and the back of the vehicle
Camber is important for cornering (you may have different angle to improve cornering), but ideally you want it to be the same.
Where do I get that Cauge
what do you do if your rc does not have the turnbuckles and your camber and toes are CLEARLY way out of whack? Please help!
Hard to adjust something that has alot of flop in the wheels and it all changes when the suspension moves up
You guys have great videos, very informative especially on the camber gauge but you totally got sidetracked and forgot to mention how to use the toe gauge! You need to do another video on the toe in and out. Thank you for all the other great videos as well.
Thank you Harry, we are a little bit behind with video production at the moment (shorthanded), but we'll add this to our "to do" list, thanks again!
Does having your toe in couse drag on the car. My car is being a little slow and i noticed taht my toe was in so i looked up how to fix that.
It should be either "O" degrees or between "-1" and "-3".
Hey guys! Thanks as always for the vid! Quick question: If there is no “correct” camber setting, how would I be able to achieve “proper” alignment? Thank you! 🤘🏻
Thanks for your comment. "usually" its around - 1 (a good starting point at least).
RC Street Shop Great! Thanks guys! 🤘🏻
No problem! if you play with different setups, make sure that you set you ride high. This is essential and "maybe" the most critical setup... it is base layer for everything else..
Great vid!, on my slash 2wd it is only wanting to go right, could this method work also?
Either this or play/readjust your steering trim
Thanks!
Anytime!😎👍
Had the same problem thanks 🙏
Epicly Great vid. too bad no new ones.
Liking your videos. Sure they could help someone sometime.
Thanks a lot!
you can also use a square and ruler and or protractor
Great video, i have the traxxis slash xl5 and just bought it used, im going to get those gauges, but the front looks like its setup good, ill check after i get gauge. The rear tires look like they have probably 2° toe in. Should the rear be more closer to 0° or 1° toe in? Thanks in advanced.
2 toe in is actually the right factory setup. Normally you start at 2 and then move either in or out one degree.
RC Street Shop okay just wanted to make sure, thanks guys
Sure, ride safe!
There is no toe adjustment on the rear of the slash, only camber. The suspension arms have a fixed toe mounting point on transmission case. Unless it was upgraded to an rpm trans case or similar.
Jason O'Hearn im not sure whats all done to it. I bought it used and came with charger 2 batterys toolbox qith bunch of spare parts with tools. And a new set of rims n tires. Its 2wd, has the titan 550 motor, batterys are the traxxis 5800mah 2s, he said something about transmission and gearing but i do know for sure the gearing isnt stock cause its not plastic. Also has a another set for top speed runs. Stock shocks are in the toolbox. On the slash theres hydraulic shocks and bunch of different springs in toolbox. Also grease and hydraulic fluid for the shocks. Has stock driveshafts, body, chasss, etc. Maybe it is something he upgraded. Ive never owned a hobby grade rc so im new to all of this, i have tons of rc's but nothing meets up with this thing!!!
Wow great information i learn alot from this video now ima try fix my 2wd slash has to much camber and toe out do to previous owner and it tends to steer left wen drag racing of start... what you recommend on setting?
try different shock setup
Holy shit. You guys have a channel??? Subscribed.
thanks:)LOL
My toe in gauge does not read zero on it it's too hard to read not sure how to use this Towing gauge
It depends on the ride high. It is VERY important to set it first. Traxxas vehicles have their limits (setup), if your are into dialing and setting up vehicles, we encourage you to take a look at competition level manufacturers.
my local rc shop looked at me like i was fucking dumb as shit asking if they had any of these tools to adjust my steering. and it took me a week to find this damn video again hahaha. and i found it on accident when i wasn't intentionally looking for it haha
LOL, RC Street Shop - the best place to confuse people! 😎👍
Wow... your hobby shop sounds like it's being run by machines haha
If I have a wheel far out of tow, should I be worried about a failure in some piece of the suspension
No. It will just cause the car to drive funny, and It will wear your tires much much faster.
Andrew Benagh. Not really but it's a easy fix and will be a noticeable difference in performance. good luck to ya! hope that helps.
Can be done with a plain old 12 inch ruler and a speed square
Absolutely. It is totally possible to DIY
could i add camber to a latrax sst
not with original Traxxas links
can you eye ball it if we dont have the tool ???
2 popsicle sticks and a protractor. Looks like 0 mark is -10 degrees on their tool.
because of this video i just realised why one of y front wheels was slightly toe-out making it pull to the right... after over a year. (haven't used it all of last year) i did crash it and break the thing that wheel is on and replaced it with metal.
I didn't say the video told me. Thats why I used the word "realised" instead of saying "told me" because it helped me come to the realisation.
What if I have the plastic camber links for 2-wheel drive Traxxas front end I have one side that's 5° in the other side is two and a half degrees how do I adjust the camber with the plastic camber link
By rotating you make it longer or shorter. That camber rod has right and left thread on it, so when you rotate it one way, it makes it shorter and another will make it longer (when both ends/linkages are connected ).
Camber goes for the same on the rear?
Yes and no, it depends on the settings and preferences. Usually its positive (+3 angle)
So you said when turning you should have all the tire in contact with the ground, do you mean the inside or outside the turn tire?
All the tire, not just the inside or outside
@@Rcstreetshop I'm talking when turning into a right turn in left or right tire should be in full contact?
If you are turning right, then right tire, if left - left.
@@Rcstreetshop Thanks RPM long rod ends installed
@@Rcstreetshop Hi I have another question, Hopefully you guys do answer. So if you take off a wheel on a Rustler 4x4 vxl, remove the hex and pin How many spacers or washers does it need. (As many as you can?) Or snug or tight. What's better
How would you want to do the rear?
Everything is the same for the rear (same principle)
tell me where can I buy camber gauge?
RC STREET SHOP online! :)
goo.gl/qmm32H
or give us a call 562-425-9000
For drag racing what is the ideal camber set up
It depends on your suspension setup, tires and top speed. Ideally you want as much grip, as it is possible and tire suppose to sit perfectly flat and perpendicular to pavement surface, but then you geometry kicks in....so there is no ideal setup... it is always a compromise. The only way to get max grip and top speed is to figure how to position it flat....or to keep it flat while at speed.
RC Street Shop ok thank yoy
Anytime!
well if you RWD you want little drag on the front (aka least amount of tire front). but it's like RC Street Shop said you want the drive tires to be flat. best way to do this is set you camber links to an even height "geometry". if you set your camber links even height with your arms (up and down) you have no camber gain (no geometry). if you do this you can set the tire at Zero camber and it will stay at Zero camber compress suspension or not. best way to make your camber links even height... take the wheels off and make your arms flat as you can to the gound, measure the high off the ball stub and make them even height to each other.
My slash turns to the right when I turn to the left on the control what should I do?
Reverse the servo direction on your transmitter.
+1 reverse servo direction on your transmitter
Positive camber is useful in oval racing on left front. Not good for normal driving .
does the camber have to be perfect?
It depends on the truck and where you run it, but normally you want it to be set.
Hey my rc car has one wheel that is not aligned correctly and I can't solve the problem. with the trim1
You need to adjust the turnbuckle for that wheel
Did you crash it?
Hello, I have an HPI Sprint 2 but the steering system is not very solid. Even on 20km/h is very hard to keep it going straight. Is it the servo thing...? Thank you :-)
It is actually both...setup and servo. But you need to start with setup (it is 70% setup and 30% servo)
Thank you. So I did a lot of tests, I tested a better servo and it was the same. Some tests I did, showed that the back side of the car starts turn randomly (going like a boat) and I think it's because of the non-adjustable inward toe of the rear wheels. I pointed the front wheels at zero toe but still have the problem. Is there a solution for me?
Try different tire compound...its sounds like you don't have enough grip...actually suspensions setup is important too ( shocks and ride high), but start with fixing grip.
Hey !! After a very long research on my car and trying different stuff I found out that the too much inward toe made it go left or right , depended where was the most grip, left or right. I did a momentary mod so I have less toe and the problem is solved!!! On this thread there are videos and photos of the problem and how I solved it temporary (www.rctech.net/forum/electric-road/1003424-wheel-alignment-need-help-2.html ) But still need to modify or 3D print the rear suspension arms a little different so they have less inward toe. Or somehow get adjustable arms...
Originally the problem is not the angle, the problem is that the grip is different and when one side loses it your car immediately spins. When you make the angle smaller it fixes the amount of force, but yet you need to figure something out with your grip.
What happened for the back side
Everything is identical to the front.
Toe and camber is front AND rear
Correct, you may adjust toe and camber for the front and rear.
I got my traxxas stampede and the back wheels are pointed in and it kinda drives weird
Rear wheels should be pointed in - this is normal....Its could be that your front wheels are not set and this is why it drives funky
RC Street Shop not from the top of the wheels but the front of the back wheels are in towards the frame.
toe in, right?
RC Street Shop I believe. Like this www.google.com/search?biw=360&bih=330&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=DYu5WqOkC9Hl_QbRtIjoDQ&q=traxxas+stampede+rear+wheels+pointed+inward&oq=traxxas+stampede+rear+wheels+pointed+inward&gs_l=mobile-gws-img.3..30i10.40776.55562..56763...7....288.4211.0j11j10..........1..mobile-gws-wiz-img.......0j35i39j0i24j0i13j0i67.HmTDyuxsprs%3D#imgrc=y9QpTAfweeidgM:
it is toe-in and it should be like this
so...when ya gonna show where to do the adjustment? am I missing something? My front wheels are way outta whack either from factory or someone crashed it and returned it and the seller on amazon sold me a returned truck... INGQU 1:12 Scale "High Speed" R/C
I'm sorry for your experience with Amazon, if you live close by and have a moment, stop be the shop our tech will show you how to adjust those. We are a little bit shorthanded right now and do not have human power to do more videos.
@@Rcstreetshop I just realized that (Most) of these R/C trucks have adjustable rods to do those adjustments. but this ones a lil cheaper...it's a solid plastic arm on both sides....no adjustments...the bent rim and messed up front end is just permanent now. I have to either return it , or try the adjustable rods they claim there gonna send me...who knows how long those will take with this coronovrius stuff too , coming from china to the USA. lol Thanks for the suggestion though...
Between 2 - 4 degress - camber ?. You should not go no more than -2 on the camber and I'm just a beginner. Bad advise.
Thanks for your input, but it really depends...camber improves grip when cornering
I did like the video, but it didn't teach me how to adjust the toe. camber was easy to understand... You showed how the camber tool works and to make the necessary adjustment...
I understood what toe in & out is. Do I just eyeball it first and make it straight as possible?
You showed the tool but never used it to explain where to start the alignment process other than it moves in 1/16" increments... what is the starting point to set the toe? How do I know the tire is straight or at 0*?
If I'm to use the rear tires as a guide line then what if it's a staggered offset setup? String won't help because it would be angled from the rear to the front tires. Just wondering cause I changed alot of my suspension parts after watching your other vids...
This is a tricky question you ask😎
Do not misunderstand us, but 90% of the time you eyeball it. Your geometry always changes and that makes it even more complicated. Different folks use different methods. Some set chassis in the midst of suspension travel, some drop the truck from 5-10 inches, then let it sit and find neutral chassis position, other just press chassis all the way down and that is a neutral point
there is no right or wrong...everything is relative.
Starting point is of course 0, but as you eyeballing it, we normally give it just a little negative maybe -1/-2 and start from there.
We are in the tech hobby but we have to adjust it based on our felling here. Gauges are just for the reference.
Awesome! thanks for the info. Very much appreciate it all!
My friend and I made a jig with 2 cheap wooden right angle rulers to help get a decent toe alignment. we just use the middle of the bulk head as a center point. Worked out great.
Anytime 👍 Good luck with it!
Maybe you said it and I didn't hear you. All of this has to be done AFTER ride height is established and the measurements must be done at the selected ride height. Ride height changes camber. Camber changes toe.
Yes, you first set your suspension and ride height
im so anal about the alignment. and im anal about having centered steering trim. this is my first thing i do when i buy a car or truck. it sucks tho that the tolerances on rc isnt so precise. i always have different adjusted sized links to get perfect steering.
It depends on the grade, if you are that diligent, you need to match it with right RC manufacturer. Kyosho, Mugen, Losi etc or any other top of the line RC manufacturer, which will let you to dial it in....traxxas - won't. Traxxas makes great stuff, but not for professional use or races.
i like how hes trying to write something down.
Mines got zero toe but about im guessing 5 degrees positive camber
Camber setting depend on your personal preferences and the way of riding. 5 is probably as much as you want (most of the trucks are set around 2-3).
@@Rcstreetshop thanks for the reply
Anytime!👍👍👍
This is like Ron Jeremy and Seth rogan teaching us about rc cars.
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1 thing i don't think you mentioned is when adjusting camber you will need to adjust the toe afterwards because adjusting camber changes the toe.
thats why you measures caster Drop Ackerman toe first in that order camber never changes
"camber is something that has no right or wrong answer" please dont tell that to honda owners lol
helpful Honda dealers )LOL
you mean vw owners.
Bahahaha. No shit!!!🤣🤣
at least, with rc cars, the links are fixed... so, its harder to screw them up...
@@qstix9733 w
Wrong!!! A good rc car is no diff from a real car
Wished you had actually showed how to use the toe gauge !
Thats what i was thinking! I couldve figured out the camber myself...
Did it myself trial and error
This is exactly how we did it back in the day.
Wtf I really just camber ganged my traxxas and it’s just fine
this is what you call RTR
they need to make videos aGAIN!
You guys should do a giveaway when you hit 10k subs
Hey, thanks for the tip! Actually great idea, I think we totally may do something exciting for our subscribers when we reach 10K!
is RIDE HEIGHT adjustable and is it a part of TOTAL VEHICLE ALIGHNMENT...I went to Firestone and got a LIFETIME ALIGNMENT on my Losi XXX-T well worth it - LOL
3 to 4 mm out
On a real car you want your rear tires to have 0 toe. Toeing it in will make the rear hard to bring around causing understeer and toeing it out will increase oversteer. You almost always never want toe out on your front tires. Even just 1 degree can make your steering unstable. Toe in on your front tires also increases corner entry grip but may cause your tail to kick out. You always want to run 0 or negative camber. The more camber you have the more cornering grip you gain but you lose straight line grip but never add to much camber as it can have the opposite affect. Having positive camber will make your car very unstable during bumps and also decreases grip on your outer tires during a turn.
Very informative . If my vehicles rolls over too much would toe out for the
rear and toe in for the front encourage rear end sliding rather than rolling .
I'd rather " drift " through the turns than trudge out and turn over my truck
when it rolls over .
@@stevenmortensen1257 you want toe out for the front about 1+ degree and somewhere 2/3 - degree for the rear for the camber in front 0 to + 0.5 camber rear 1.5 to 2.5