Flash's Mech -VS- JaeDong's Zerg

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  • Flash (T) vs JaeDong (Z) on Retro, Game 2.
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Komentáře • 293

  • @davdav1370
    @davdav1370 Před 9 dny +229

    We do not mind 4 games in a row

    • @novitrix9671
      @novitrix9671 Před 9 dny +1

      Amen 🙏

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 Před 9 dny +1

      If they're the same, I would mind. It's very frustrating seeing one of your favourites trip on stupid little mistakes. And it's frustrating in general to watch somebody lose a game, instead of the other one winning, if that makes sense.
      That is, it's frustrating to watch a game being won not because the winner was doing something brilliant, but because the loser did some stupid mistakes.
      Like watching a movie where the powerful, interesting villain suddenly is very stupid and out of nowhere it loses.
      We've had 2 games of that already, I don't want to see another 2 like that. Wasted potential is frustrating.

    • @skterran
      @skterran Před 9 dny +5

      I could watch flash macro out of his mind all day

    • @Dziaji
      @Dziaji Před 9 dny +3

      There was nothing stupid about this loss. Jaedong messed up the broodling cloning, but Flash’s never-ending macro was so brutal that I’m not sure proper broodlings would have been enough.

    • @hailstormlucas
      @hailstormlucas Před 9 dny +2

      Or 15 in a row..

  • @TheOneEd83
    @TheOneEd83 Před 9 dny +119

    Legends goes that if Artosis consumes enough Flash games, he will be able to cast Dark Swarm…

    • @heyheythecat
      @heyheythecat Před 8 dny +1

      And vision not obscured as he will have Flash... light.

  • @briancorbett3600
    @briancorbett3600 Před 9 dny +136

    There is never too much Flash. Thanks for the games Arty!

    • @georgedyerguitar
      @georgedyerguitar Před 9 dny +3

      In fact there is never enough flash

    • @mr0ska
      @mr0ska Před 9 dny +1

      yeah cast as many as you want I'll watch them all

    • @ManCubuSSC
      @ManCubuSSC Před 6 dny

      Especially when it's Jaedong vs. FlaSh! Are you kidding me?!!

  • @behold_band
    @behold_band Před 9 dny +82

    Flash never stopped with the pressure, in typical flash fashion. Just pressure everywhere.

    • @FlymanMS
      @FlymanMS Před 9 dny

      How does he even manage to be everywhere at once.

    • @Ziegfried82
      @Ziegfried82 Před 9 dny +14

      He's more zerg than the zerg. So many damn tanks the queens ran out of energy.

  • @Neveragain905
    @Neveragain905 Před 9 dny +64

    RT is the best commentator to be casting flashs games in my opinion. No disrespect to the other commentators that are also casting flashes games but there is no comparison not even in the slightest. I have so much respect for every SC channel helping to keep this game alive but RT is on a whole different level with his fountain of knowledge and especially about the terran race. Whatever games you cast I watch but please cast more flash games!

  • @user-bm8ek5lz1w
    @user-bm8ek5lz1w Před 9 dny +24

    3:33 arty getting in touch with his musical side

  • @FlymanMS
    @FlymanMS Před 9 dny +38

    I feel like they’ve been missing each other and were glad to play 5 games in a row.

  • @kabuteshiitake7071
    @kabuteshiitake7071 Před 9 dny +9

    there's never too much flash. actually i just like hearing artosis' castvoice when he's stoked about something.

  • @Capris9x
    @Capris9x Před 9 dny +9

    Man, this brings back memories of watching Kespa matches between my college classes in 2009-2010.

  • @dirty_chanterelle
    @dirty_chanterelle Před 8 dny +2

    you can cast every flash game for all i care, this has been really fascinating so far

  • @EebstertheGreat
    @EebstertheGreat Před 9 dny +4

    11:17 More specifically, plasma shields are always ignored when they are less than 1. It basically works the way you said, but internally, the game keeps track. It also means that if you happen to reduce a unit's shields to, say, 0.8, then on the next hit, the remaining shields will get skipped and all the damage goes through to HP.
    The reason it works this way is that otherwise, shield armor would apply on nearly every hit. This way, shield armor only applies occasionally after the initial shields wear off, only after a full point of shields have regened.
    The rate is 4/256 HP/frame for Zerg and 7/256 shields per frame for Protoss.

  • @adammccraw7379
    @adammccraw7379 Před 9 dny +4

    I feel like Arty's inner child is fuckin jazzed. Flash is back and he gets to cast all his games? What a treat! Thanks for sharing your passion with us, Arty.

  • @jchan59
    @jchan59 Před 9 dny +3

    10+ years later and im still watching scbw. This game is truly fucking timeless

  • @pandemic-mi8ib
    @pandemic-mi8ib Před 9 dny +3

    I need more!
    I am not opposed to watching several of these a day!

  • @meguemil8542
    @meguemil8542 Před 9 dny +3

    We haven't had Flash in so long, so keep them coming, Arty!! I want to see his evolution

  • @user-hx1zz9dq6i
    @user-hx1zz9dq6i Před 9 dny +6

    More Flash! The people have spoken!

  • @Bres92
    @Bres92 Před 9 dny +4

    Please cast ALL of flash's games, you can NEVER have too much flash

  • @ProxyGateTactician
    @ProxyGateTactician Před 9 dny +9

    never too much for sure

  • @Strider182
    @Strider182 Před 9 dny +1

    There is NEVER too much Flash!! I know I'd love you casting all the games that JaeDong and FlaSh play!! Thanks for the games!!

  • @cidiousblack2136
    @cidiousblack2136 Před 9 dny +2

    23:15 Flash starts making Goliaths again to deal with air threats. 23:17 Artosis interrupts himself to talk about how Jaedong should build Mutas. Flash didn't have enough Goliaths in production to deal with a group of Mutas, but Jaedong did not have a group of mutas in production and Flash wisely got Irradiate to discourage muta play and functionally strengthen his goliaths against surprise mutalysk.

    • @ObeliskM
      @ObeliskM Před 8 dny

      I do not think it would be enough vs mass muta.

    • @cidiousblack2136
      @cidiousblack2136 Před 8 dny +1

      @@ObeliskM I'm not sure if Jaedong could stop flash from destroying another base while all his larva would be sunk into a mass muta play.
      Even so, Jaedong was fighting to stay on four bases against Flash's five. I'm not saying it was impossible for Jaedong to win, but Flash building a soft counter to Jaedong's next best move does not speak well for Jaedong's chances.

    • @ObeliskM
      @ObeliskM Před 8 dny +1

      @@cidiousblack2136 Jaedong just played not greatly overall. Mass ultralisks vs mech, really? Could have so many hydras and earlier queens instead.
      Then attacking tanks head on without dark swarm.
      No sunkens despite getting harassed so many times.

    • @cidiousblack2136
      @cidiousblack2136 Před 8 dny

      ​@@ObeliskM Are you suggesting he had already lost the game by the time he resigned?

    • @ObeliskM
      @ObeliskM Před 8 dny

      @@cidiousblack2136 I am saying that he could have done better

  • @josefkarel1876
    @josefkarel1876 Před 7 dny +1

    Flashes games are never "too much" keep going, love it. I apriciete your job so much! :)

  • @anjunzhouJack
    @anjunzhouJack Před 9 dny +12

    you are gonna not cast all??????????? please cast them all

  • @MegaRyan1987
    @MegaRyan1987 Před 6 dny

    there can never be to much flash. I love seeing flash come back and relearn his strategies. Its so exciting to watch and see him come up with new stuff. The god is back!!!!

  • @Pico141
    @Pico141 Před 9 dny +20

    My god, Jaedong is so good and then just throws games with stupidest stuff. Last game he just let bio reach his 3rd when he had more than enough to stop it, this game he just refused to make a group of mutas and win

    • @vitaminamulti
      @vitaminamulti Před 9 dny +4

      Yeah why did he GG? He had lots more fight in him. Maybe no more gas?

    • @gasstationpeanuts1814
      @gasstationpeanuts1814 Před 9 dny +6

      Is there a pro zerg more prone to tunnel vision than Jaedong? The guy is insanely good but simply doesn't course-correct and ends up losing when he absolutely shouldn't have.

    • @moonasha
      @moonasha Před 8 dny +3

      I honestly don't think the mutas would have made him win, he didn't have enough income to build enough. Go back and look at flash's income it was insane

    • @ej____________
      @ej____________ Před 8 dny +1

      This game was gifted away in the early mid-game when, after shaving off 2 valks and tons of bio and having a worker lead, JD decided to dive the terran main and lost all mutas and a lot of zerglings for 1 missile turret.

    • @ahejleira5654
      @ahejleira5654 Před 8 dny +1

      jaedong has always struggled against mech

  • @stevenevans5119
    @stevenevans5119 Před 9 dny +1

    Artosis is letting the Mario Erotica get to him as early as 0:10 with the "OH. MY. GOD." BOWSER, I MEAN MARIO.

  • @lostmana
    @lostmana Před 9 dny

    RT, as someone who hasn't watched a lot of your cast videos (but loves your other content) these replays have really got me hooked, please make more Flash vids! Thanks

  • @AkerfeldtMikaelOpeth
    @AkerfeldtMikaelOpeth Před 9 dny

    We demand all the Flash you can give us, Artie. Everything. All the games. Every game. All. Plural. Games. Everything.

  • @Dangerpurple
    @Dangerpurple Před 9 dny +2

    The miss micro with the queen spawn broodlings was just too devastating.
    Dude had enough queens to delete every single tank and he didn't just calmly click them all away because of one single goliath
    shameful

  • @Tmr2010
    @Tmr2010 Před 9 dny

    I look forward to these every day

  • @oldbucket2421
    @oldbucket2421 Před 7 dny

    It’s good to see you are taking a break from raging Artosis

  • @michaelbird9148
    @michaelbird9148 Před 9 dny

    I appreciate you're on a Flash kick. You also love him (as do many folks). All good. That said, I like the broader view of the pro scene that your casts bring.

  • @niuage
    @niuage Před 9 dny +6

    Cast them all. Why not :)

  • @charly.chavez
    @charly.chavez Před 5 dny

    There will never be too much Flash, Thnx RT, cast them all!

  • @ObeliskM
    @ObeliskM Před 8 dny +1

    Funnily enough, queens were once considered useless units. Now they are considered overpowered vs mech... Queens are very cost efficient, but not a guaranteed win. Terran can hunt them down with wraiths or valkyries or just emp SV. It is just that mech terran usually never bothers looking for them, weirdly enough.
    Also zerg who built mass queens becomes much more vulnerable for several minutes, since he invested a lot of resources and supply with no payoff yet.

  • @garrettc6521
    @garrettc6521 Před 9 dny

    Never stop flash casts. So excited to see him get back into shape!

  • @swampybwoy
    @swampybwoy Před 9 dny

    If all future episodes of artosiscasts were flash games I wouldn’t be mad ❤

  • @monkleyt
    @monkleyt Před 9 dny

    I'm very excited for flash games! This was a fun game to watch

  • @Scrambles2112
    @Scrambles2112 Před 5 dny +1

    CAST EVERY FLASH GAME PLZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!! WE WILL WATCH THEM ALL

  • @Zeratul150
    @Zeratul150 Před 9 dny

    Insanely great game amazing to watch and can’t wait to see more

  • @gmanj88
    @gmanj88 Před 9 dny

    Flash v Jaedong, mech vs crazy Zerg. Is this a 2010 Tau Cross game? Beautiful.

  • @Dziaji
    @Dziaji Před 9 dny +1

    That might have been the best game ever played. Flash is so incredible. If jaedong didn’t screw up the broodling cloning it might have been closer, but Flash’s macro was so ridiculous it might not have even mattered.

  • @pandemic-mi8ib
    @pandemic-mi8ib Před 9 dny

    I love the format of watching a series of games from a single player to watch how they develop their strategy.
    Flash is a unique situation because he is returning to the scene, but I'd love this type of series featuring other players.

  • @taylorolson6228
    @taylorolson6228 Před 8 dny

    yeah there can definitely never be too many flash games, he has such unique ideas it feels like a 4th race

  • @justinmoonshine3742
    @justinmoonshine3742 Před 9 dny

    THERE IS NEVER TOO MUCH FLASH. Watching him adapt again is awesome!

  • @freshcutzwag
    @freshcutzwag Před 9 dny

    Hey Arty thanks for the cast ! Why not go through every Flash games but not as a cast but rather a in depth game analysis and study for 45 mins or an hour. I’d really like to see that and see how you take games apart and analyze them. All the best brotha ! Which btw I want to see Flash everyday on this channel. I know i have a shrine but these are new games

  • @icecoldporksoda3461
    @icecoldporksoda3461 Před 2 dny

    I remember watching flash before he broke TvZ with the 111 build and thinking, “this is a joke right? He just wants to throw everyone of before asl and not show his hand, right?” It looked bad for weeks and then he came in and snapped every Zerg’s neck.

  • @Winnetou17
    @Winnetou17 Před 9 dny +1

    Just checked the comments and I'm amazed by how many people said there can't be too much Flash.
    It absolutely can. WTF, are people not serious anymore or just don't think for a bit anymore ? Ever heard of monoculture ? Having a landscape so rich, just casting 1 guy all the time would absolutely be detrimental. That's so nice about StarCraft it allows soooo many personalities to shine and be unique and still be competitive.

    • @c0rpsmakr
      @c0rpsmakr Před 9 dny

      when the best progamer of all time out of any esport ever returns (especially when people were doubting if he'd return), everyone is going to be thrilled to spectate as many games of the GOAT as they can.

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 Před 9 dny

      @@c0rpsmakr Yeah, but after a while, you start returning to casting the others too. Plus, I still stand that it's more important to have interesting games, Flash or not. You certainly don't need Flash to have a very nice, very interesting game. But it is true that the best players, statistically, will generate / have the most interesting games.
      So by that metric, is totally normal that Flash will be one of the most casted player. But from most to, say, almost always casting him it's a long way, and the "almost always" will certainly be "too much Flash" in my book. I might miss the next 14 games in a row between ZeloT and Rain because of this. You catchin' my drift ?

  • @ABlackFalcon
    @ABlackFalcon Před 9 dny +9

    SaiyanKCM casted seven games between Flash and Jaedong... then FalconPaladin casted the first five... now Artosis says he has four. It's weird how each one covers fewer than the last, heh. I hope Artosis covers all of them though, his analysis is more in-depth; his knowledge of builds and build orders is quite impressive.

    • @vitaminamulti
      @vitaminamulti Před 9 dny +1

      FalconPaladin offers no insight.

    • @gasstationpeanuts1814
      @gasstationpeanuts1814 Před 9 dny

      @@vitaminamulti Their styles are just completely different. FP will cover the whole field and keep up with play-by-plays, while throwing in light banter and humor, while RT can autistically explain gas optimization theory for 3 hatch into double ultra muta ling hydra busts with defiler support. And why it needs to be done between 16 minutes and 16 minutes and 27 seconds in order to work. I'm an RT d*ck rider but Falcon is top notch as well.

    • @vitaminamulti
      @vitaminamulti Před 8 dny

      @@gasstationpeanuts1814 fair enough! I just never been a fan of the humor so probably why it doesn’t appeal

  • @WalterBurn
    @WalterBurn Před 9 dny

    Watching Flash get back in shape is cool I don't mind seeing a lot of it.

  • @MasterJohnam
    @MasterJohnam Před 9 dny

    Flash's confidence in performing harassment between timing pushed and timing defenses makes me more confident to harass even though I suck at it.
    What a inspiring player.

  • @SamBElevenC
    @SamBElevenC Před 9 dny

    Used to hate flash winning all the comps but didn’t realize how much I was going to miss him when he left 😢. More flash please

  • @zombiegandhi8405
    @zombiegandhi8405 Před 9 dny

    If Flash is back, and stays back, I would enjoy a Flash Friday cast.

  • @Wysaw
    @Wysaw Před 9 dny

    There is never too much Flash haha, watching how quickly he brushes off rust would be cool

  • @TehJed
    @TehJed Před 9 dny +1

    There is never too much FlaSh

  • @iceee420
    @iceee420 Před 9 dny

    I would love to watch a bunch of flash games. See how someone considered the best gets back into the new meta

  • @jeffreykbennett
    @jeffreykbennett Před 9 dny

    Please cast all the flash games. It will be cool to see him get better and better

  • @nickmasters8474
    @nickmasters8474 Před 4 dny

    I'd be happy to watch mostly flash games, honestly. I realize for other players, more variety is good, but I personally could be happy with at least 50% games being Flash.

  • @-LocoBolon
    @-LocoBolon Před 9 dny

    NO! There is never too much Flash, and you do need to necessarily cast them all!

  • @mirza3553
    @mirza3553 Před 9 dny

    There's never too much Flash, pls cast them all

  • @xx-lz9wn
    @xx-lz9wn Před 9 dny

    **** I need more Flash games!!

  • @ninjaquy
    @ninjaquy Před 9 dny

    No one plays mech vs Z better than Flash. Out of 10 games i think he would only lose 1 or 2, incredible!

  • @godlyobject6509
    @godlyobject6509 Před 9 dny

    Yeah, 100% with you Arty, bringing back mutas would've been huge.

  • @crazymusclecuz
    @crazymusclecuz Před 9 dny

    flash had every factory qued with probably atleast 3 tanks each so that those factories literally never shut off.. but the most important part was the vultures he kept so when ever lings ran in the vultures would clean them.. Flash did win. Jdong had 2 bases just lost a ton of drones and flash had 200/200 and 4 fully mining bases..

  • @jonnykvids
    @jonnykvids Před 9 dny

    Yes more Flash!

  • @corymeyer1162
    @corymeyer1162 Před 9 dny

    As far as I'm concerned you can change the channel to Arty casts flashes practice games and I'd be here for every vid. Cheers

  • @ermac81
    @ermac81 Před 9 dny

    I was looking at the video progress bar and honestly couldn't tell who was gunna GG.

  • @kerviuskuroshiba5120
    @kerviuskuroshiba5120 Před 9 dny

    I am definitely not a Zerg ASL lvl pro, but in my head was the Jackie Chan hands in the air meme. "Y NO MUTAS!?" 🤣 Such an exciting game but the end felt kinda flat imo 😅 TY AGAIN GL HF!

  • @deepzerocool
    @deepzerocool Před 9 dny +1

    I think Flash can read the opponent’s resources count. Hence he knew there wouldnt be enough Queens

    • @abstractdaddy1384
      @abstractdaddy1384 Před 9 dny

      Haha!

    • @kingdweeb5065
      @kingdweeb5065 Před 9 dny +1

      Artosis can tell you when the gas geysers deplete, and how much gas they mine per minute. It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear flash has taken this a couple steps further and has a running gas bank in his mind for his opponent and subtracts every lurker, ultra, muta, scourge, upgrade, tech structure, or defiler from that gas bank.
      I'd be really surprised if he had anything near that level of understanding for minerals, since there's different patch counts, efficiencies based on worker count, across so many bases, and it's so heavily disrupted by harass... But it could technically be possible

    • @deepzerocool
      @deepzerocool Před 8 dny

      @@kingdweeb5065 very true. He was like “Show me more Queens!”

  • @JacobKemple-xi8tb
    @JacobKemple-xi8tb Před 9 dny +73

    Spoiler blocker

  • @MatildaHinanawi
    @MatildaHinanawi Před 9 dny +1

    If there's "too much", you can just buffer them a little, do something else in between for a bit, I don't think there would be more "too much" than that.

  • @hubertmaruszkin155
    @hubertmaruszkin155 Před 9 dny

    Where to watch other 3 games?

  • @Exception1
    @Exception1 Před 8 dny

    Flash! A-ah!
    Savior of the Universe
    Flash! A-ah!
    He'll save every one of us
    Flash! A-ah!
    He's a miracle
    Flash! A-ah!
    King of the impossible

  • @icecoldporksoda3461
    @icecoldporksoda3461 Před 2 dny

    Whatever happened to “erh mer gerd”?
    Never let the old memes die

  • @ch420newsteam
    @ch420newsteam Před 9 dny

    Would we have any options for 4K quality in the future? does SC1 remaster support that?

  • @rockdrigo9326
    @rockdrigo9326 Před 9 dny

    There’s NEVER too much Flash

  • @emanuelcordova7955
    @emanuelcordova7955 Před 9 dny

    question, if they keep creating new names for the ladder how do you find these games and how do you know it is flash and Jaedong?

  • @MrTBSC
    @MrTBSC Před 9 dny

    question: does defiler darkswarm also block turret, goliath and wraith aa?

  • @maxrs07
    @maxrs07 Před 9 dny

    Seems that there was no window to pop 5-10 mutas at the mid+/end game since its 500-1k gas. Either cuts half of queens which would allow tank rally push without issues once he gets antiair or less ultras which would allow flash to push deeper at the moment.

  • @liamgenter1584
    @liamgenter1584 Před 9 dny

    Never too much Flash.... follow the comeback closely!

  • @somecooney5304
    @somecooney5304 Před 9 dny

    Flash went out like Michael Jordan, damn
    Retired as a God and came back as a man..
    DA.

  • @pivorsc
    @pivorsc Před 9 dny

    where you can download those korean replays?

  • @romas011
    @romas011 Před 9 dny

    The supply can become very deceiving when there are so many queens, as you said. I was just getting confused at the volume of units for JD during the tank push and was thinking where all his shit was.

  • @benjamincarmona3703
    @benjamincarmona3703 Před 9 dny

    Looks like Flash gets advantage just for being Flash. Jaedong didnt even try when he could have just won the game by being a bit more patient

  • @jamesgraessle7295
    @jamesgraessle7295 Před 9 dny

    1:00 no, there is never too much flash. In fact, if you casted every game flash played, i would still want more flash games.
    22:33 i will say that i've seen queen games that zerg wins, and zerg games that terran win. The ones where zerg win are almost always "get queens, cast first set of broodlings, terran dies" I didn't really think that flash was in a position where he could suddenly die because a bunch of tanks were deleted, especially by a gas-even unit that was built quite a while ago. Looks good for flash, to me, atm
    23:11 i mean, 20 queens kills 20 siege tanks and then has to wait for ages! i don't think killing 20 siege tanks is gonna be enough! I think flash was constantly scanning looking for a muta switch here, which is wild to me, but it's the only thing that makes sense, as to why he built so FEW goliaths. crazy stuff.
    Thanks RT!

  • @anthonyc719
    @anthonyc719 Před 9 dny

    Hmm idk about mutas. He didn’t have an insane economy to produce enough that quickly. And let’s face it. Flash would have goliaths in a second. Watching them play against each other is so satisfying

  • @2slick4u.
    @2slick4u. Před 9 dny

    21:20 DAMMMN THIS IS SUCH A SOLID SIEGE

  • @ilvivente
    @ilvivente Před 8 dny

    Nice!

  • @willf6856
    @willf6856 Před 7 dny

    hahah JD just throwing all those ultras and lings into the meat grinder. like dude just make some mutas hahaha

  • @AquaSZSSoo
    @AquaSZSSoo Před 2 dny +1

    Ultras are incredibly bad vs mech because they make mech efficiency skyrocket. Tank shots and mines do full damage and mostly ignore ultras high armor.

  • @lifenote1943
    @lifenote1943 Před 9 dny

    We NEED the Flash vs Jaedong games arty

  • @tnguyen617
    @tnguyen617 Před 8 dny

    Where is the link to game 1?

  • @The8bitFighter
    @The8bitFighter Před 9 dny

    Jaedong should've had that game. And if he can't win games like THAT, man... I want to see the Tyrant again... but, ouch.

  • @Dude07386
    @Dude07386 Před 9 dny

    That was alotta sea chanks in action

  • @HighMojo
    @HighMojo Před 9 dny

    Terran is more zergy than the zerg.
    Terran is building replacement tanks faster than the Queens can broodling them.

  • @williampounds5191
    @williampounds5191 Před 8 dny

    Cast every Flash game! At least for a bit...

  • @mateusarf
    @mateusarf Před 9 dny

    its never too much Flash!

  • @diechort
    @diechort Před 9 dny

    There's never too much flash

  • @LurkingLarper
    @LurkingLarper Před 9 dny

    The sheer bullheadedness from Jaedong to not make 10-12 Mutas and rolling over all those tanks is quite baffling, especially considering Zergs are the best at quickly switching and massing different unit types when needed. Sadge.

  • @mrgrimm
    @mrgrimm Před 9 dny

    I want so much more content from you that I'll send you my games vs the computer to shoutcast

  • @brianhufsmith477
    @brianhufsmith477 Před 9 dny

    To answer your question: More Flash!