WILL THIS ENGINE START?!?!! Ran-day EP11 with Walter Schulz
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Reviving an old marine diesel engine isn't something you want to do without preparation first. If an engine has been sitting for 5 or more years, you are going to want to follow the following procedure from Walter Schulz, founder of Shannon Boat Company, to maximize the life of your engine.
Walter has 9 simple steps to restarting an old marine diesel engine --
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============== Segments ==============
00:00-04:21 Intro & background
04:22-08:10 Step 1: Check if it's seized (manually rotate crankshaft)
08:11-09:44 Step 2 & 2A: Coat the engine with Marvel Mystery Oil
09:45-13:23 Steb 2B: Flood valves & springs
13:24-15:16 Step 3: Rig up fresh fuel
15:17-16:50 Step 4: Open bleeder valve
16:51-17:12 Step 5: Run the starter to bleed
17:13-17:54 Step 6: Close the bleeder valve
17:55-18:56 Step 7: Attach raw water
18:56-20:20 Step 8: Check/top off coolant
20:21-25:33 Step 9: Start it up!
25:34-27:26 BE TENACIOUS - DOG IT!!!!
He needs a channel! I could watch Walter Schulz every day (Except Thursdays of course) Thank you Ran-Day and thank you Walter for sharing your knowledge with us.
Thanks for watching and the kind words 👍
He has a channel:) www.youtube.com/@shannonboatcompany/videos. He is on a bunch of their videos. Your welcome:)
Ran Dee: In Step 8 you are mistaken. Adding coolant has nothing to do with raw water pump. Two separate systems. Coolant goes through a different, freshwater pump. Check it out.
He actually has a channel, it's called Shannon Boat Company
@@petethecatable it's sometimes in the raw water side to overwinter protected sa as not to bust open when the big east coast harsh winters hit any water in that boats gonna freeze so its gotta get antifreeze drinking tanks too toilets all need antifreeze till mid april probably. I use to go with april first but got hit by 2' of snow early April it stayed cold another week or so then cracked my block and you'd think by april we would be done with ice and snow, not that year, end of the line for that motor. Moral of the story keep it warm or if you cant fill it all with antifreeze. You can put engine block heaters on the boat but it doesn't protect everything and if they burn out quit working...
kaput. A hole in which you pour money, B.o.a.t. break out another thousand.
you are doing the world a big favor by highlighting Mr. Schultz and having him share his experience.....old timers like him in every field need to be recorded like this.....
Totally agree… I love hearing the stories and learning from their experiences
@@YachtHunters I had a seasoned builder client who was building 2 of the same homes next to each other. But they were reverse floor plans, one garage on the right the other on the left. We were in the drive way of one and he had a set of blue prints in his hand. I asked if he had to draw up 2 sets of prints. He sort of scoffed and opened the prints backwards and held them up to the sky and said I just read one plan from behind. LOL - no way a rookie would ever figure that out.
Mr. Schulz needs to record an audiobook about sailing. I could listen to him for hours. He has a great voice.
He has got loads of stories!
I feel very much the same! 😊
Walter is a gem. More of these please!
I’m glad that Mr. Perkins 4-108 treated Walter as he treats all of us! I’m glad you shared the reality of trying to start a 4-108 that has been hibernating for a few years. We love Walter!
This man is what America was about a visionary that produced a product that exceeded quality standards especially today and hopefully well into the future. Really respect your collaborations especially with someone as knowledgeable and still hands on as Mr Shultz.
Thanks very much… he’s a personification of the American dream, as you say. I’m super fortunate to get some of his precious time
What a GREAT video. Watching Walter work reminds me of being with my grandfather. They don’t make em like this anymore. Just plain ole common sense and a can do attitude sprinkled in with a splash of sailors cologne (diesel fuel).
Ran-Day…you get an A for the day. Thank you for sharing this!!!!
You are too kind.. thank you!
Amen!
Walter and Captain Q, I can't imagine how much sailboat wisdom you have access to. Rare men indeed. Thanks so much Walter and Ran-day for doing this.
Agreed Tim, thanks
Ran-Day: How you got Walter Schulz on your boat is nothing short of a miracle. He is truly an amazing man and a living sailing icon. Great video and informative too. Thank you.
Thanks a bunch… I’m super fortunate they opened the door when I knocked!! Count on me to keep sticking around 👍
Walter is a treasure to the sailboat world.
I hope you continue with your shameless tagging along for as long as Walter will tolerate you.
O my God…Walter is a genius and I would love to buy him a beer and just listen to his advice and knowledge. Thank you for the video.
@@russellmurphy8111 better to leave the beer in the bottle, glass not suitable.
The coffee was terrible hahaha. Love that a guy with all the expertise in the world has to struggle with engines also. I feel better about my struggles.
i feel the same way!
I agree, I can't get enough of Walter Schulz ... the wisdom, the accent, the sayings, the commitment to craft ... a real legend. Please do more episodes with Walter.
we'll see what we can do!! thanks, Sven!
@@YachtHunters I just watched this episode again. It's that good. I'm christening this episode as a Captain Q cult classic!
What a legend Walt is, that whole generation is special.
He’s the American dream.. self-made, worked his butt off and had a blast doing it 👍
best segment ever. Actually learned something... no corny useless attempts at "humor", thanks Randy and Walt of course. Bravo, keep it up.
Just bled my Perkins 4-154 in my Peterson 44 Sailboat last weekend after installing new primary & secondary filters and a new fuel lift pump. Took me about 13 attempts as well! Had to work my way through bleeding at the primary then secondary filter, then the two injection pump bleed screws, then each of the four injector pipes. SUCH satisfaction when it FINALLY fires up! You can see it in Walter's face when he's finally successful. Good for you, Walter!
That is a helluva lot of bleeding… congrats and cheers from this crew!
@@YachtHunters I think replacing the fuel lift pump at the same time added a lot more air into the system. It took longer to bleed. Enjoy your channel!
Oh Randy, you’ve got a real knack for finding fascinating old fellas. The previous episode was my favorite thus far, ‘cuz that old codger with his gigantic head and enormous hands seems like a living caricature of himself… and an absolutely delightful one at that. How excited was I to see he’s in another episode?!
"old codger" ? "a living caricature of himself" ? These phrases speak for themselves. I would only remind you, that courtesy costs nothing.
Raanndddaayyy ... you have to make Walter a semi-regular on the show!!! I could watch and listen to him for hours. Wealth of knowledge and quite the character!!!
He’s a busy guy… but I can also be persistent in knocking on his door… sooooo 🤷♂️
Mr Schultz, the world would love to hear all of your stories and soak up your boat knowledge. ❤❤❤
Agreed! Thank hou
Agreed! Thank you!
Don't ever quit. from an Old heavy duty mechanic. perseverance pays off. always. good on ya. great video.
Indeed… a great recipe for living the best life..cheers
Thanks again Randall. Content aside. It is very refreshing, that you don't use clickbait. Too many of the sailing channels I subscribe to, do. If the content is good enough, it will speak for itself. By this time, anyone who is familiar with the channel, knows that its amongst the best of its type. Maybe the best. Writing a dramatic title, where there is no drama in the video, is like torturing a man with extreme thirst. With sweet, crystal clear, cold water. Only to snatch it away, just before it touches his lips.
It seems to be a feature of our time, that many hosts spend much of their time, talking about themselves. This applies to those on television as much as those in other mediums. You have a trait that seems to be increasingly rare. You ask the question and then let the interviewee speak, uninterrupted. That is the mark of a consummate professional.
Walt is one of those very few, very gifted individuals. Who can teach, as well as do. And he does it with a light touch and much humour.
The signs of a master.
It was a privilege to watch and listen to Mr Schulz.
I hope the Captain is well. He is missed. ❤
That’s very kind of you, Mike. It’s very tempting to put a bikini on Sea Dog… and take some scandalous foredeck shots…😉 but I’m of the similar mindset as you.
I’m glad you enjoyed it and I appreciate the kind words… it’s easy to sit back and listen to the wisdom that’s being shared… so much to learn!!
Last two episodes with Mr. Schulz have been amazing. Honestly could listen to him for hours.
Thank you again Randay for featuring Mr. Schulz again. Great advice from a gentleman well schooled in life.
Sure thing… glad you enjoyed it!
There are two words you'd better look up and understand and then apply them to your life if you want to be a sailor or succeed at anything really, perseverance and persistence because without them you will fail. Oh and definitely Religion because without it you're already setting yourself up to fail...
It's easy to see how this man has gotten to where he is and has created a legacy of success.
Thank you Walter for all you've done and continue to do.
Another great video Ran'Day, thank you and thank you Walter for taking the time to show us how it's done...
Well said… couldn’t agree more!
Walter is an amazing man.
And there’s so much more to learn about the man… check out some of his patents if you get a chance!
Nice! One thing that works well is to have a fitting that replaces the bleeder screw that goes to a clear plastic tube and fill the tube with clean diesel. You don't have to keep adding fuel to the little fill cap funnel and you can stand back watch the bubbles of air rise in the tube. The "head" or height of the diesel in the tube also helps prime the system. On my old 1967 Massey Ferguson tractor with a 90ish HP Perkins, if it sits for a year, I need to crack the fuel lines at each injector and crank the engine until fuel and no air is escaping. Once I get solid fuel, I close the lines at each of the six injectors and it starts right up. Sometimes this is absolutely necessary to do! I have also had to do this on 80's Mercedes diesels. If you don't do what Walter did with baring the engine over and adding oil to the top end you really can damage items. I have seen bent push rods which causes the engine to have a slight miss.
Wow… bent rods sound horrible. Interesting idea for a fill tube & fitting.. would like to see how that is rigged up. Thanks!
Walter is my new hero. Well done Sir!
Agreed!
That was well worth a half hour of my time! Life lesson - don't take no for an answer!
Walter is too good to be true, whoever the Actor is playing his role, he’s done a terrific job.
Just a tiny bit of air in the lines is also a problem with turbine pumps you use to bring water to your cottage from the lake. I feel for you guys watching this. You think "it can't be that much air" not realizing how little causes the problem. Walter dogged that for sure. Another great episode. Thanks.
Thanks friar!
Patience and a mechanic with grace and wisdom😂
Rand-day, love that you are bringing on,other old guys with, a weath of knowledge, for the rest of us. My favourite part is the attitudes.
It’s fun to be around this depth of knowledge. Thanks!
Walter is my top CZcams discovery of the year! What a gem!
Walt spent a lot of time on Ran-days boat he was so sure would sink, or was a "bomb."
A very...theatrical man... to say the least.
He knows his stuff and got my attention for sure!!
That was Fantastic!! Mr. Schultz is the Man!! Thanks!! That Marvel Mystery oil works great on gas engines too!!Fun!!
Classic what a wonderful man
this is superb! masterclass! @13:58 "my wife loves the smell of diesel..." i doubt it, not exactly perfume, ha ha ha! More of this stuff please! Precious gem about perseverance and determination, the bit at the end, @26:16 "just don't take no for an answer" is true, engines in general (not only boats, and not only engines we are talking about...) are very temperamental sometimes.
exactly!! Walter's subtle New England sarcasm comes through in small bits. Like when he said "Henry made your diesel tanks easy to remove" that was a dose of sarcasm. He said after we were done shooting that "you'd need a chainsaw and some dynamite to get the tanks out" :) Keep in mind, he knows this because he's had to remove hundreds of tanks over the years and designed all Shannons to have tanks easily removed with simple tools - something only a boatyard worker would appreciate (or think about). Amazing knowledge and practical forethought into boat design. cheers!
I love the raw wisdom shared here. Walter is like the Gandalf of marine boat building and his nuggets of wisdom are like gold.
They should teach basic trouble shooting in schools. Understand what the process is (in this case for a diesel engine) and know what's necessary to happen in what order. Don't waste time panicking and the answer will come to you.
Thanks Walter for sharing your experiences! Thanks Randy for delivering that wisdom to the masses!
You've got something really special here, Walter and the Captain are both American originals....incredible knowledge, common sense and wonderful down home humor....Thanks for the great presentation!!!!!
Thanks very much Kerry… I’m very fortunate and glad you’re along for the ride 👍
Walter. What a gem.
Well done thank you all.
It was a great idea to work with Walter. We all can learn so much from him. Thanks for sharing .
Agreed! Thanks very much!
I know from my old pearson and volvo penta that this demonstration is incredibly applicable and valuable for anyone with an old boat and engine. Thank you So Much for this. I guarantee all sailors will one day find themselves doing this exact process to get the motor running.
Thanks MG!!
This is amazing. He’s obviously a legend, but his handling of diesel fuel is hilarious. 😂
What a difference in philosophy between a man with a few years behind him and many a young man...
"you just have to believe..... a life lesson in perseverance."
It is too easy to give up on something without giving it the time and effort needed.
Dog it!! I miss your magazine!
@@YachtHunters Same.
You ok.... no see you today?
Ran-Day you and the Captain have something
Special going on here.
Can’t wait for the episode where the Capt’n meets the Schulz!
Loved this one Randay. As a former Navy Engineman I agree with Walter. You NEVER allow an engine to say NO to you no matter what. As soon as you allow one engine to get away with that stuff,,,,,,there will be a dozen more behind it talking the same SSSS. Pre lubing an engine that has sat for that long is critical as hell. He did not fully do what I do but he still got the deed done in fine fashion.
agreed!! what else would you add to the task list? I've gotta know!
A great video. Walter's refreshing no-nonsense attitude makes me miss SE NE. The engine sounded great once running. Thank you for posting.
Thanks Koukla! Couldn’t agree more
What a gem Walter is
Loved it. Especially loved hearing the estimate of the number of hours already run and the lifetime hours that can be expected from a small marine diesel engine. Precious wisdom.
the general rule of thumb I've heard is around 10,000 hours before a rebuild might be considered. Of course it could be higher or lower based on the maintenance and care that's been had over the years. My Ford Lehman has 9,400 hours on it... so it's getting up there in years but it fires right up and seems to work well. It leaks a little oil and currently leaks A LOT of coolant but I anticipate being able to solve that in the next month or so...
As usual a very entertaining spot. Being a old motor head I understood Walters process. I'm convinced that Shannon boats are the final word in reasonably priced crafts. Great job Ran-day. Keep up the good work.
Life lesson absorbed like a spunge. Love it.
Same!! 👍
Love when our venerated elders take time to pass some experience along..
agreed!
I love Walter’s running commentary and spicy nuggets. Water and Captain Q are in a league of their own! Thanks for all the great advice for us wannabe “Young Salts” in training.
You bet! Thanks for watching
Outstanding, I feel better about my failures at bleeding my engine. Persistence is the answer, not calling a mechanic after half as many tries as Mr. Schulz did. Please keep showing Walter Schulz episodes.
Tickled you had the opportunity to be "Shameless". It is awesome to see someone of Walter's caliber roll up the shirt sleeves to get dirty. I would say that feller has some stories.
Indeed… many great stories!!
Great class of engine fixing/running. A Legend Walter ....lovin it
Walter is terrific! I like is style…hit it head on and no whining. Dog it! That’s what you need to own an old boat. I know, I own an ‘89 Island Packet 35 with a Yanmar that gives me fits from time to time. Don’t let the boat win.
Perfect: All those failures; it's real world situation.
Oh my love/hate relationship with my old Perkins 4-108 on full display here lol. Mine was in Morgan Outisland ketch. Pulled it out, had it rebuilt, reinstalled it, and it purred like a kitten. Great video of Walter, a true genious and designer for sure. Thanks for sharing Randay.
How was the rebuild process? Did you do it yourself? If not, was it expensive? Lengthy? Cheers
@@YachtHunters i pulled the engine myself then took it to a quality machine shop. They took it from there. Because i pulled it and reinstalled it the cost was about 3500. The whole process took a little over 3 weeks. Keep in mind i was much younger then and it was heavy work. I pulled the head then the block after removing everything i could. I ended up replacing most every bracket, nut, and bolt i pulled. That added another 1200 to the job, but the end result was worth it. My engine for all intents and purposes was brand new for a fraction of a replacement.
Thank you, Walter. Well done. It's great that you kindly donated your time and vocabulary skills to teach the young people some important skills. You did it the way it needed to be done, and said it how it needed to be said. Couldn't have done a better job myself. I'll be recommending this video to many young people, so I don't have to explain it a hundred times how to start an old diesel that's been sitting. You're a good man. Fair winds and full sails.
Thank you for hosting Walter, Ran-day
Done good. Real good.
Walter and you or Walter and someone need to start a channel.. he's got so many wonderful stories and so much knowledge that one day will be lost and it will be a shame to not hear more from him
We’ll try to see if has some time to do some more… he’s a busy guy and still inventing and innovating every day…
On a Perkins 4:99, 4:107,4:108 like that the air needs to be bled from the injector pumps bleed screw, then the injector pipes. And if all else fails use the CAV Thermostart that is fitted to it. Pretty much 100% success rate if the Thermostart is used. Started a Perkins 4:108 after sitting 11 years doing it that way. Never had not start over last 45years.
Awesome just awesome
Another winnner “Tom” lol. Walter is an excellent teacher. How great is that for all of us greenhorn sailors. RanDay it’s also really fun to insert those old film clips. I swear I almost said hallelujah when that motor did start. I’m also old enough to understand dogging it. I think it came from how persistent a dog will chew a bone. Carry the bone around, dig it up, bury it and repeat. Dog it. Good lesson.
Thanks Beverly!! The hallelujahs were definitely in order!!
WALTER IS A GEM ! GREAT CAPTURE RANDY
Great information from the Master. All left handers are great. Thanks for sharing. Regards to Q.
I can watch this on repeat! What a great guy.
Fantastic video. How cool would it be to film him every week. The man is a genius. Gotta get him and Captain Q together.
He is… you should check out some of his patents!!
Old school! My respects to the man. Pure dedication to the task. This is video is a life lesson. Thank you.
Thanks very much!
The guy that grew up next to my parents was an old school shade tree mechanic. He said you need three things to get an engine (they're really not motors) to run, air, fuel and fire. That was for gasoline engines. Diesel engines need the first two because the fire is supplied but compression. The point being, if you have air and fuel and the engine is not seized it should run. Maybe not run well but run, after that it's a matter of tuning. Good video Randall. Keep the good stuff coming.
Cheers JL! I’ve heard that adapted for diesels to be fuel, air and oil… keeps it nice and simple 👍
Walter definitely left you with some golden nuggets!!
And someone a running engine!
Wow! Walter is an amazing boat man and colorful character. So much fun to learn from Walter!
19:55 Pure Genius…
😂
These last two episodes have been great! Well done 👍
Much appreciated, Jesper! Thanks
Nice. Practical doing the next thing. What I love is that he's very well acquainted with how stuff works, and what it is to do.
Thanks Randall, nice production. Ever since I was a kid, I marveled at the wisdom and experience and confidence in decision making of my elders. Walter Schulz illustrated that here. I love the analysis of canine behavior and its relation to nautical terms. In nautical terms, to "dog everything down" when heading into worsening conditions is a call to action and seems just the opposite of canine behavior "they just sit around and do nothing but watch me or sleep, alright?"
Hahaha yes, I’ve heard a few people say dog-on-bone… so maybe it was shortened to Dog it? Cheers Thomas!
Your videos with Walter are fantastic. Thank you both for putting these together!!
Thanks jeff!
Love seeing these episodes with Walter! I have a Shannon 47 and would love to get her back home to Bristol for a bit of a reunion.
Lucky you! What a fantastic boat! Bring her on home!!
OMG.......the amount of knowledge that Walter spews is invaluable. I could sit there for months just listening to his stories and insight....you are so lucky to have a ICON assess your boat. A Shannon is my dream boat, none of the other "blue water" builders have as much to offer......
So many practical details for the build quality, operation and maintaining them… cheers
Walter must be a fan of captain Q. You guys are famous
Old diesel fuel injection mechanic here. That motor has a DPA rotary fuel injection pump. Every pump has a bleed screw and the system needs to be bled through to that point, not just up to the filter. By bleeding right through to the pump, you are clearing the entire system of air, not just up to the filter housing. The little lift pumps are actually very good and supply a lot of diesel per stroke of the manual lever. People think that they are useless because the pump is driven by an internal lever that is actuated by the crank shaft of the motor when the engine is running and Murphy's law states that when the engine was last stopped, it will have stopped in a position that has this lever actuated. This greatly reduces the effectiveness of the pump when using the external hand lever. All you have to do is turn the engine over a little and then you will be able to feel that you are getting a full working stroke of the hand lever, and it pumps a lot more fuel per stroke. Also, the rotary (main, not the lift pump),pumps can sometimes air lock. The easiest way to clear this is to loosen all the injector pipes at the injector end and crank until you see the pump delivering spurts of diesel at the injectors. Once you get there, tighten the pipes again and she should fire up quickly; and you won't have to overheat your starter. Rotary pumps like the DPA are particularly prone to air locking at times, whereas with an inline pump, such as a Simms or Bosch for example, this is much less of an issue. Nice video; thanks.
Wow… great Info & tips… thank you!’
At this point "Hi, I'm Randell" is as universally recognizable as, "Hello, I'm Johnny Cash"
😂
Full respect for Walter sent. I saved this one for future reference. 👏👌👍 Walter thank you and Ran-Day.
Thanks Para!
Thank you Randall for sharing this fine gentleman with us !! Great knowledge to share!!
Fair winds ⛵️
Thanks Tom, glad you enjoyed it
There was some very good info in this week’s installment. Perkins makes a good engine, but I’ve always had to allow extra time when changing fuel filters or opening lines. Endeavor to persevere. Maybe some day I’ll learn the correct way, and look like a wizard. Thanks and take care.
I’m in the same boat… aspiring to wizard level… I’m currently at Dumb & Dumber level 😂
Love this guy!
Great video. I probably would have done a few things different such as bleeding all of the air from the injectors and making sure the impeller was new but I did learn a lot about soaking the mystery oil into the system to lube the valves rings and pistons. Thanks for putting all this out here and a big thanks to Mr. Schulz for being willing to do this. I miss my boat and hope one day to be in the cockpit of one again. Thanks Ran. Cheers!!!!
So timely. Just about ready to do this to my boat that's been on the hard about 2.5 years, without knowledge. Now I got knowledge. Thanks to you both.
Glad we could help! Best of luck with it!
Ran-day this was brilliant. Thanks to you and Walter. I have had my BMW D35 in my Challenger 36 out of action for 18 months and have been towing the boat out to the start line just to keep racing but am now close to getting it ready to fire up again and was wondering what the procedure was. All questions answered. 🐟 😁
Great to hear! Best of luck out on the course!
Great tutorial on starting a sitting engine! Never having worked on a diesel engine, but looking at an older sitting vessel. MM oil should be in everyone’s cabinet. I was taught that by an older gentleman myself. In my search for parts and information on working on my ol’atomic 4 a few years back. Bristol Marine is a great place!
Thank you very much! Yes, super crew and fast!!
Dude Walter is treasure! Great information here. Thank you for the much needed education.
Excellent!
Many thanks!
Most valuable lesson Thank You!! I will be trying this out soon 😂😂😂😂😂
All good information and presented with a little color.
Hey Walters back, love his New York accent, some good advice by the guru.Cheers guys.
Thanks Andrew!
What a cool guy! He’s definitely different from Capt. Q. But, he’s got his own style and he is incredibly knowledgeable. Great find!
Great episode Randal…thanks to you and Mr. Schultz for the lesson…this is essential for any prospective boat owner/buyer!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks
This guy knows his sh#t........love watching Walter Schulz......Love it !
Thanks for leaving the failed start ups. Far more educational to see the air lock being expelled. 😎👍
Walter Schulz is my hero. Ran-Day and Capt'n Q aren't far behind. Yes, I bought a boat. :)
What did you buy?
@@YachtHunters A 2005 Hinckley Sou'wester 42 MkII. It's the 3rd to last of this type they made. A simple, but gorgeous bermuda sloop with a centerboard that's getting a few refits at the Hinckley yard in Annapolis. I bought it in December. Making my final trip up there from P'cola in a few weeks to sail the Chesapeake for a month or so to get used to it and hopefully shake out whatever hidden issues remain before heading out.
I almost purchased a 1984 Shannon 43 ketch, but even though it went through an extensive refit in 2016 with Walter's oversight at Shannon, it just kept revealing stuff that needed attention, though none of it was serious. I decided that I wanted to get out on the water with a boat of this caliber with less effort. It was a hard decision to say no, man I loved that boat!
You and Capt'n Q had a hand in all this - I'll forever be thankful or never forgive you! :)
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