I grew up on my Dad’s farm with a 2N, 8N and a 9N. We had to constantly work on all of them, never new if one would start are stay running. At eighteen I saved my money and bought a Massey Ferguson 135 diesel, 1973 model. I hope to never own and or operate another Ford N Series tractor. Good luck yo all that like them.
Hank! Sounds like you may have a miss somewhere? Check your plug wires to see if they are loose. My 8n even in freezing weather is never that temperamental. Carb may need some slight tweaking. It's a painful and tedious job. Also, don't worry about using mineral oil. Today's stuff is just fine. Great to see this rescued!
Those old 8N Fords are very temperamental. Everything has to be tuned and adjusted just right. Especially when it’s cold out. I have eight of them all still only 6volt. I live near the Canadian border in upstate NY it gets very cold here. I don’t have any trouble starting any of my tractors even at 20 below. I keep them all tuned up but it takes a lot of experience to get everything just right. I have had them for over 40 years so I know them inside and out. They are old and temperamental just like me. Maybe that’s why we get along so well. Very enjoyable video Hank
it is concerning that the furthest back small drain plug had nothing come out but a couple of drips. Something is wrong somewhere,either there is no fluid in the rear diff or the hole is plugged. Better check it further.
Excellent video Hank :) I would check spark plugs if not dirty also cap to rotor and points plus wires not loose ! Get bottle of carb or fuel injection cleaner in fuel tank too so clean out Ethonal older tractor carb hate it ! Check carb gasket on manifold not leaking so suck more air also air breather chamber too !
Last comment looking at them drive tires you ever wonder why they mount them that way when you get in mud it'll push the mud to the outside of the tires if they were turned around wouldn't it pull the mud to the center and get more traction just my thoughts
Would a block heater help? I’ve never lived in a climate that needed any kind of heater, so I’m not really familiar with how they work on a tractor. I bought two flat electric heaters this winter and added some magnetic sheets to the flat side of them and stuck them on the bottom of my oil pan, and they got pretty darn hot. I used this for the 2 day winter we had this year and my tractor fired right up both days. It was like 15° those two days.
Hank hope that is pure mineral oil you are using; if not take it out and put mineral oil in. You can get the mineral oil at TSC; regular hydro fluid will destroy the system in that old Ford. Your throttle cable may need some adjusting with that carb!
Do what now? I have heard that about oil filled electric motors, that some additives can cause a short, but never heard anything of the sort for a transmission. Please link to a source.
@@rodgerneeb301 You can look at My Tractor Forum if you like! However, the 8n, 9n, and 2n Ford tractors; all have it within the owners manual to use MINERAL OIL only. They like the Ferguson 20 and 30 use the Ferguson system. They both use brass and copper in the transmissions. Unlike newer tractors to operate the three point hitch the pto operates. I learned this quite early in life my grandfather was a mechanical engineer and when I was much younger I helped him repair a neighbors tractor. It had hytrans placed in it by the owner; unbelievable damage. The N Fords and early Fergies were the only common ones to use mineral oil. You will find quite a few articles on the internet related to the proper oil to use in these tractors. Moreover, one really needs to latch on to a manual for any tractor one has. Some people do use hytrans and get away with it for awhile. However, like the neighbors 8n that was bailing hay the damage was not pretty. Read and plan don't assume when working on tractors or other equipment. Tractor Supply carries the correct mineral oil check their web site you will find it. I buy in 2.5 gallon containers. Many stores do not carry it as it isn't a hot selling item.
All you need to do is check the owners manual or shop manual for the N model Fords. They use the same MINERAL OIL as the Ferguson 20 and 30. Not to many places stock it; but Tractor Supply does stalk it!@@rodgerneeb301
@@hankschaffner2999 You can use modern hydro fluids; but in these old N tractors and early Ferguson T 20 and 30's use brass in the rears. The new detergent oils over time will create excessive wear and is extremely hard on the seals. Talk to any old times who had one of these new and they will tell you the same thing. Believe me i had an older friend who collected these and it was one thing he was very articulate about is using the correct fluids in the transmissions.
All of those old updraft carburetor engines were cold blooded bitches. I have an IH 184 cub lo-boy that needs to be choked when it's 105 out....when it's cold it's a project to get it running.
You said you were going to leave the tractor in that condition. I think you should have it sand blasted and put it in new condition that will look great in any parade.
COOL BEANS HANK. I'M SURE ALL THE PARADE ROUTES WILL BE AFTER YOU. ESPECIALLY WITH THE COOL STORY BEHIND THE LIL ALCOHOL BURNER. STAY COOL HANK PEACE...
The old 8N. Love-hate relationship!
I grew up on my Dad’s farm with a 2N, 8N and a 9N. We had to constantly work on all of them, never new if one would start are stay running. At eighteen I saved my money and
bought a Massey Ferguson 135 diesel, 1973 model. I hope to never own and or operate another Ford N Series tractor.
Good luck yo all that like them.
Hank! Sounds like you may have a miss somewhere? Check your plug wires to see if they are loose. My 8n even in freezing weather is never that temperamental. Carb may need some slight tweaking. It's a painful and tedious job. Also, don't worry about using mineral oil. Today's stuff is just fine. Great to see this rescued!
Those old 8N Fords are very temperamental. Everything has to be tuned and adjusted just right. Especially when it’s cold out. I have eight of them all still only 6volt. I live near the Canadian border in upstate NY it gets very cold here. I don’t have any trouble starting any of my tractors even at 20 below. I keep them all tuned up but it takes a lot of experience to get everything just right. I have had them for over 40 years so I know them inside and out. They are old and temperamental just like me. Maybe that’s why we get along so well. Very enjoyable video Hank
The old tractor runs again. Great job Hank!
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Old Ford sounds good Hank. Take good care of her. 💥💯
Tractor could use a real mechanic to work on it, lol! I just about died laughing when you were draining that oil, thanks!
Nah man just send it
Good to see the progress! Last I saw it was in pieces.
it is concerning that the furthest back small drain plug had nothing come out but a couple of drips. Something is wrong somewhere,either there is no fluid in the rear diff or the hole is plugged. Better check it further.
it will have fluid in it now
Nice piece of working history 😁🤙😎
Excellent video Hank :) I would check spark plugs if not dirty also cap to rotor and points plus wires not loose ! Get bottle of carb or fuel injection cleaner in fuel tank too so clean out Ethonal older tractor carb hate it ! Check carb gasket on manifold not leaking so suck more air also air breather chamber too !
I believe 8N is supposed to use #90 Mineral Oil in the transmission/hydraulic system
Hank from what I understand you are a hand modeler perhaps tractors aren't your forte, LOL😂 Good video buddy!
Last comment looking at them drive tires you ever wonder why they mount them that way when you get in mud it'll push the mud to the outside of the tires if they were turned around wouldn't it pull the mud to the center and get more traction just my thoughts
carb needs adjusted it doesnt need warmed up you can hear it misfiring
I have a 8n ford tractor I can work on it fun to drive around the yard
Shouldn't of poured more diesel in there when had the drain plugs out to flush more sludge out
Trans, rear end and hydraulic all use the same 5 gallons of 90 weight mineral oil.
I would save that nasty diesel/oil mix for lighting burn piles.
We do. I store it until fire season
Would a block heater help? I’ve never lived in a climate that needed any kind of heater, so I’m not really familiar with how they work on a tractor. I bought two flat electric heaters this winter and added some magnetic sheets to the flat side of them and stuck them on the bottom of my oil pan, and they got pretty darn hot. I used this for the 2 day winter we had this year and my tractor fired right up both days. It was like 15° those two days.
Hank hope that is pure mineral oil you are using; if not take it out and put mineral oil in. You can get the mineral oil at TSC; regular hydro fluid will destroy the system in that old Ford. Your throttle cable may need some adjusting with that carb!
Do what now?
I have heard that about oil filled electric motors, that some additives can cause a short, but never heard anything of the sort for a transmission. Please link to a source.
@@rodgerneeb301 You can look at My Tractor Forum if you like! However, the 8n, 9n, and 2n Ford tractors; all have it within the owners manual to use MINERAL OIL only. They like the Ferguson 20 and 30 use the Ferguson system. They both use brass and copper in the transmissions. Unlike newer tractors to operate the three point hitch the pto operates. I learned this quite early in life my grandfather was a mechanical engineer and when I was much younger I helped him repair a neighbors tractor. It had hytrans placed in it by the owner; unbelievable damage. The N Fords and early Fergies were the only common ones to use mineral oil. You will find quite a few articles on the internet related to the proper oil to use in these tractors. Moreover, one really needs to latch on to a manual for any tractor one has. Some people do use hytrans and get away with it for awhile. However, like the neighbors 8n that was bailing hay the damage was not pretty. Read and plan don't assume when working on tractors or other equipment. Tractor Supply carries the correct mineral oil check their web site you will find it. I buy in 2.5 gallon containers. Many stores do not carry it as it isn't a hot selling item.
All you need to do is check the owners manual or shop manual for the N model Fords. They use the same MINERAL OIL as the Ferguson 20 and 30. Not to many places stock it; but Tractor Supply does stalk it!@@rodgerneeb301
I have used nothing but Regular hydro fluid in my 1949 8n for over 30 years and have never had a problem with my hydro system!!!!
@@hankschaffner2999 You can use modern hydro fluids; but in these old N tractors and early Ferguson T 20 and 30's use brass in the rears. The new detergent oils over time will create excessive wear and is extremely hard on the seals. Talk to any old times who had one of these new and they will tell you the same thing. Believe me i had an older friend who collected these and it was one thing he was very articulate about is using the correct fluids in the transmissions.
Is it amazing how easy things were to work on back then
You know you have a pretty substantial exhaust leak where the exhaust pipe attaches to the header.
Carb needs to be gone back over and re-adjusted with the needle valves. Running too rich or too lean.... either one.
need too find a david brown tractor to work on
I like it
All of those old updraft carburetor engines were cold blooded bitches. I have an IH 184 cub lo-boy that needs to be choked when it's 105 out....when it's cold it's a project to get it running.
Awesome!
You said you were going to leave the tractor in that condition. I think you should have it sand blasted and put it in new condition that will look great in any parade.
COOL BEANS HANK. I'M SURE ALL THE PARADE ROUTES WILL BE AFTER YOU. ESPECIALLY WITH THE COOL STORY BEHIND THE LIL ALCOHOL BURNER. STAY COOL HANK PEACE...
all u need is 5 gallons
Something is arcing on the right side rear of that motor. 😮
When you gonna be making new will it start videos missing them 😢
I don't put will it start videos on this channel
@@hhamilton1970 what channel do you put them on with willy
Hamiltonville Farm
No it needs a tune up
It needs throttle fixed
Glad to see you using your man hands instead of your modeling hands lol
No Thanks my friend, I will pass😆
Excellent!! .... we eagerly await you pressing it back in service running moonshine and await our first delivery ... 🫙