ya been in the gravel twice, both due to black ice,and literally got pulled out by dot grader with no damage, those gates might stop , but will destroy the truck in the processes ,,, rain on one side of mountain , freezing rain on the north slope,, already on down grade 13% before you hit it ,, puckers you up a little hahaha
The bad thing is that because of the terrain, a gravel run-away-pit can't be used. It's something that this video doesn't mention, but others about this same area do.
@@richardmoreno5160 if not mistaken, it's in a very short flat area of the highway. The gravel ramps need to be long for it to work properly on flat land. The only way gravel ramps can be short it is if the area allows for a up hill ramp to use gravity to decrease the truck's speed. This area has none of those qualities.
$5M after initially quoted $4M only a25% overrun. That's pretty good by the overrun standards here in Australia. We do everything bigger,we get budget overruns of 60 -70%.
5 million is cheaper than paying a family for loss of life if someone gets hit and killed or to rebuild a business. Trucking company would make the argument the state didn't have a safe runaway ramp... Legal bullshit. Udot will get there money back by truck company's to fix the catch fence and insurances
Exactly my thoughts, people say its cheaper than paying a family from a trucker hitting them but what if parts flying off the truck hits and kills a passing motorist? Its a lot of “what ifs” related to this rig stopper since nothing is slowing any debris from flying across the road, guess that common sense study will be another $2m
They aren't reinventing anything though, this kind of tech has been used by the military to stop terrorist truck bombs from making it to important buildings for the past 15 or 20 years. The only difference is this one in particular slows the truck down as opposed to just stopping it out right. Might even be cheaper than gravel because it doesn't need to be replaced all the time, you just press a couple buttons, reel the gates back into place and reset the system.
This runaway ramp is similar to how aircraft land on an aircraft carrier. Carriers use thick cables and a set of heavy duty hydraulic systems to arrest landing vehicles.
Ikr. I was an A.O. on the USS George Washington and see this all day. Even sleeping at night you can feel the boat shake when one would land on the deck. 01-05.
@@jamesturner2126 Nothing wrong with that. Those cables are pretty thick. Once in awhile a cable would snap and you better hope you're not in the way when it does. Lol
As a trucker I can say that those cables are going to be very intimidating to use, its going to take more and more for someone to decide to use it I would have pushed for gravil much more
They’re only doing this because it cost millions and they can hide money inindividuals pockets. Gravel doesn’t cost hardly anything why else would they be doing this
We have one of these truck ramps installed on the road above the town where I live. It's called a Catch Net System. Over the past 14 years, it has been used 7 times. It works. All of the truck drivers who were forced to use this ramp walked away without a scratch. Five other drivers who lost their brakes and chose not to use the ramp all died. I do not know what the initial cost was to build the thing, but I do know that the cost to repair it and put it back in operation is approximately $13,000 per gate. Which the truckers insurance company pays for. The trucks that have used it, have went through between 3 and 7 gates, depending on there speed and how heavy the load was, before they came to a stop. The time to repair the gates and have it back in operation again is about 30 minutes per gate. The damage to the truck is minimal, usually the front bumper is bent and the fiberglass hood is cracked and broken. The small amount of damage to the truck is quite surprising. To all those that say a gravel ramp would be a lot cheaper. I agree, but in our case, we did not have the option of putting in a gravel ramp. The road runs down through a canyon with a 8% grade, a mountain on one side and a steep drop off on the other.
This road is similar to the one in Buffalo, albeit snaking down off a mountain instead of through a canyon. They didn't have the space for a traditional ramp here either, despite what all of the temporarily-disgraced truck-driving mountain-highway-engineers in the comments seem to think. This thing will save lives.
note how one said “if the truckers will use” …because they know it’s a high possibility a trucker is not going to want to use that ramp and we can understand why .. when forced to make a decision in a matter of seconds , i don’t think truckers have time to think whether or not that can be used or whether it’s a closed road .
I use to drive semi. I was amazed how many times I insisted as a rookie to stop at the top and set the slack adjusters for the brakes bc. they were WAY OFF. Then just before adjustment, I'd call the senior driver underneath and say "You need to take a look at this." So many incompetent drivers, and I"m not just talking semi. I'm including the general population.
Used to haul 5 and 6 axle heavy trailers in Ontario Canada, before automatic slack adjustors came out, every trip needed to adjust the brakes and yes, most of the time they were way off
@@Chevy4x4dawg I live in Australia and we have the gravel pits with these things in the very last part of it so that the truck has to be at an extreme speed to reach them
“If the truckers will use it”. Well kinda your fault for using steel instead of gravel. 5$ million!!?? I’m sure they want more so they can steal the 4 million extra that wasn’t needed
@@niyablake and unlike gravel/sand arrester beds... this thing can be equipped with a heating system since it's clearly at altitude--- thus preventing ice from interfering with it's efficacy... unlike sand/gravel beds, which ARE susceptible to ice.
"minimal damage to your truck" looks like it's gonna total the rig! I mean, if it keeps everyone safe that's the goal. But suggesting it's going to cause minimal damage to your truck seems like a stretch
Plus you have to reset that ramp after every use and that can take some time. Unlike a gravel one you still can use it after the first truck. Yes the ramp does need to be smoothed out after use but just in case an emergency it can be used more than once.
And whats the cost to get it back up and working after being used, and how many months will that take? Not to mention damage to the truck. Gravel pits are used for a reason.
@@j.b.9895 They work -- and it takes a state worker in a backhoe about, what, 10 minutes after it's used to prepare it again? This thing stinks on ice, therefore it comes as no surprise that the state of Utah would approve it...smdh
I have seen several videos of trucks crashing on a standard run away ramp. This technique has been used for years on aircraft carriers, and works well. Good enough to save multimillion dollar aircraft.
With departments of transportation, or most government entities, minimal damage is never better than total destruction. Then they demand more funding. Notice how it was supposed to cost $4m, but costed $5m. Regardless of efficacy, they want to roll it out to other locations.
I'm an old professional truck driver and my grandfather also he taught me do not go down a hill faster than you went up crawl down the hill and do not pump the brakes pumping the brakes cause fire slight pressure slow speed you'll never have a problem downhill with any load.
Yeah, they inflated the cost among themselves, like landlords, engineering firm, local officials, manufacturers and suppliers, etc. It is American Made Run Away Ramp.
@@memonavaramirez6261 $5,000 is just for getting a permit to construct on federal highway. I guess the burritos can be handed out to city workers to help you get through that process much easier. Now what do you do with $0.
I think somebody could put up a hundred fishing nets to stop a truck for way less than $5 million. Lol. The government is an expert at wasting taxpayers money .
Realizing things may have changed since then, I checked google maps anyway. I started in the street view about 1 mile away from the intersection and then headed back towards the intersection. Things I noticed: No speed limit signs posted anywhere/no signs indicating a T-intersection or a sign with arrows pointing to either side indicated the road doesn't go across. The road is super flat approaching the intersection. The way the houses (houses East of Bear Lake) are aligned in the distance makes the road 'appear' on US-89 to keep straight then curve to the right, following the contour of the houses. Thus appearing like a 4-way intersection. Also, Logan US-89 road heads EAST to Bear Lake. The sun rises in the East. If it's a clear day and the sun is rising, you won't be able to see the traffic light. This 'runaway' ramp seems like a waste of money when proper signage is all that is needed.
I’m not going to lie I keep a high vest jacket in my trunk I usually drive my car to work and my car usually breaks down lol gotta be safe on the road man fuckers don’t pay attention
Looks like a desk jockey tried to make a better mousetrap. Gravel ramps are very effective and can be made ready to use again in a matter of minutes I wander how long it takes to reset or possibly have to rebuild this contraption or how much it will cost each time. What a waste
You think you’re getting a big truck out of a gravel catcher will take a few minutes? Have you seen videos of trucks running into sand/gravel catchers. It takes days to extract and fill/regrade and the trucks are probably totaled. Also the trucks insurance company is on the hook for the cost
@@j.b.9895 which is why insurance is expensive. Insurance payouts are not free money, those payouts get distributed across policyholders. Gravel won’t destroy a truck like guillotine wire traps that will shred bumper radiator etc.
I drove past this installation literally yesterday and thought to myself how it's the first catch-net system I'd ever seen, and how cool it looks. Hope this new technology really turns out to be an all-around improvement.
@@tylerb1483 $140,000 truck/$25,000 trailer,$250,000shipmint / $1,000,000 driver (non of which the driver will have to pay. vs. property $200,000/ building $180,000 /store supply$ 500,000 / +10 people $,10,000,000. Use the fucking ramp. You might not get hit with a big bill but you sure a fuck will be hit with manslaughter charges.
@@davidrathjen8492 where r u getting a trailer for 25 k I bought mine last year at beginning of 2019 it was new but 2018 model and my step deck tri axel Benson with Conestoga boxes light package lift axel disc brakes was 100thousand and was about 17 thousand cheaper than any other one I found with options and I bought my w900 icon this year specked out and apu added total 250thousand I haul mostly large cat engines most loads are about 1 million on value I don't know why people talk like there is a obvious choice no one is saying not to use it if u can't stop thinking that someone would say that knowing they cant stop they still won't use it is not what anyone is saying they r saying make it a easier choice to make entering it can not only cost their job how they feed their family better road design should be first why would u put a light at bottom of large hill I got another solution driver pay paying driver to preform a pre trip inspection and post trip pay the driver to stop at break check station and check his breaks pay for any work we have to do to make sure truck is safe but they won't they want driver to work for free and that's why things get overlooked he is trying to make money and he is not making money checking his breaks and got to get miles in when ur on a clock so moral of story believe it or not u get what u pay for I'm a owner operator but I was company driver 10 years ago
I used to work at a paper mill in middle of South Carolina. For 20 years a truck would turn off the highway going too fast and flip about every 8 months. A few years ago the SC DOT installed a roundabout 1 mile from the mill. Now about every 8 months a truck flips over in the roundabout.... but it doesn't block traffic now... and the paper mill hasn't had a truck flip over in the entrance in a few years. So the solution for this town is to change that off ramp to have a tight turn... cause the runaway trucks to flip on their sides before they get to the bottom of the exit ramp. If you can't make the drivers be more careful then perhaps hte best solution is to allow them to have their "accident" where there is no business or buildings.
@madtrucker0983 not really, those store have absoloutly been there a lot longer than that ramp. It follows the same pattern they have been using on all these highway ramps the last decade or so.
@@chuck8178 after doing more internet research on these ramps I unfortunately concur. I mean fak the insurance companies anyways, they’ll be the one eating the short term loss.
I’m a trucker and I can speak for your comment it does say engine breaks prohibited for X amount of miles. So what I do is take my grade down slow and use my transmission and engine to slow it down without jake brakes. Overall yes jake brakes are very very important on your rig that will definitely help you out going down a grade and keep your truck at a lower speed.
@@ricardoh1787 I've seen no engine brake in some of the dumbest places. I sincerely think the officials and politicians who have these policies put in place are completely clueless as to what us truck drivers have to deal with.
@@mache3984 I totally agree with you but hey us truck drivers need to follow the rules or else we will get our license taken away and possibly thrown in jail but yes it sure is in some of the dumbest places possible in which I do believe we do need to use jake brakes.
I wouldn’t care if I needed engine brake at the top I will use it. Decide what rule you will break no jake brake or no entering sports good store with semi
I’ve been on that road multiple times. It’s not even that bad. There are plenty of signs long before you get to the end, telling you the grade percentage and how far it is to a traffic light at the bottom. It’s unfortunate that they need stuff like this. We need better training of drivers.
If it is marked as you say, those drivers should face stiff consequences for crashing. Perhaps 90 days probation and their boss reviewing their dmv h6.
Yeah I've been on that highway many times as well- it really isn't that bad. I think what is happening is that some drivers are underestimating the distance to the light and they are burning their brakes up before getting to that light. They will probably have to lower the speed limit on the downgrade, so that trucks will have an easier time stopping.
Some of the things my 10 weeks driving school taught us in 1991 were brakes, brake check areas, brake adjusting. Apparently in the 3-4 week schools today it's not being taught. I'm retired now but whenever I picked up a trailer I adjusted it's brakes before leaving with it. I rarely saw another driver do it. If I was still pulling the same trailer a few days later I'd adjust the brakes on it again. I know what runaway ramps are for and I tried to avoid them. Between 1991 and 2018 I did just that. Training companies need drivers to have at least 1.5 years of experience before they let them be trainers instead of some of them letting them train with only 6 months solo experience. It can take you 6 months to start to understand what it really means to be a solo driver.
Im not sure what the curriculum talks about self adjusting slack adjusters, but i hope they still would teach to check them because they do fail as well. Ive had many drivers come to the shop complaining about the park brakes dont hold. All find all 4 rear brakes completely stroked out even though it has self adjusting.
@@dieselgaint, when I started driving in 1991 there were parking brakes on each chamber and then someone got a wild idea to not put them on one drive axle.🤦🏼♂️ To me that was stupid.
@@dieselgaint, right. And I used to get crazy looks from some drivers when I lowered the landing gear on the trailer before being loaded/unloaded. I also went to a few places that required it. If I was picking up heavy I'd drop the airbags first then lower them to prevent struggling when it's time to leave. Reinflating the airbags raises the landing gear for easy roll up.
i deal with drivers all the time, i had to fix a reefer, the guys slack adjuster was just hanging off the trailer, what does he do? keeps driving instead of calling out for service, drivers these days are dangerous.
Gravel slows all the tires, these things take all the momementum at the front of the truck, won't that cause a jack knife situation? Or the trailer load running into the cab? I would want to see the concept proven before I would use it but suppose if it was out of control before getting to it and knew what was coming after I might try it and hope for the best.
just another example of politicians that are looking out for their business partners. Q: what is wrong with 3 ft deep gravel for 100 yards? A: we cant justify costing $5M.
i dont really think there is a correlation between speed limit and losing your brakes on hills. donner pass is the only one that i would really consider a danger in california. i think states that have a seperate speed for trucks actually do more harm than good.
@@spencerphilippinedream3706 There is a strong correlation. If the driver does not recognize the danger and proceeds downgrade without reducing their speed, they can and will lose their brakes. Once the brakes heat up to a certain point, it becomes a lost cause. It's almost happened to me a few times until I wised up.
That runaway truck ramp is ridiculous on every level. Cost (5million, seriously?), time and cost to get it back online after use, catastrophic damage to the truck, and effectiveness. The awarding of this contract should be investigated because I smell a rat.
I agree, wasted a lot more money on something thats gonna have a lot more maintenance and destroy the front end of the truck. With gravel you get pulled out and most likely go on your way.
I actually parked for the night in that parking lot where the road ends. Great tourist food places all around and the water so clear and shallow for a quarter mile out.
1:45 the person speaking seems to think that steel cabling will do "minimal damage" to fiberglass and other soft parts of the truck. Apparently, he's never priced a hood, front grill, radiator, fan assembly and more if all that gets shoved into the engine.
Those "nets" are much like what aircraft carriers use to "catch" planes that are unable to use the arresting cables for whatever reason, though onboard carriers there is just one big net strung across the flight deck for the pilot to aim for...and it isn't made out of cables, but rather, really strong nylon (?) straps.
Gravel would be more successful. Some drivers will not want to damage their trucks with this cable version. They might test their luck instead of certain damage.
First: piss poor design....dangerous...Second: the truck drivers that would need this need to learn better braking management before ever driving any mountaneous terrain, better training for drivers that would be driving in these areas of the country....
The truck that hits it is going to be totaled. Unless it has a moose killer bumper on it. That will take the hood and radiator to start. No damage is bs. FYI most drivers that use these have been driving for years and got complacent. You can go down a thousand times to slow but it only takes on time too fast!
@@brianmuse7215 No they don't total trucks. Their whole point is they don't. The other styles of truck off ramps with gravel and sand total trucks and put the driver at risk. The truck also gets stuck. These can be reset very fast too while also being much safer for the driver and while not ruining the truck and cargo. There are demonstrations and videos on this. That is the whole reason why this new technology is being used now.
WaterspoutsOfTheDeep I can’t seem to find a video on this damage free system. When that plastic hood hits that cable and then rips through the radiator cab etc. it’s going to total the truck. My truck was hit sitting in a truck stop and had $20,000 damage to the hood etc. I don’t see a damage free truck shredder there
@@brianmuse7215 nope, not at this spot... not sure what those engineers were thinking.... if they are lucky the truck will be totaled and they'll walk away, but if they aren't lucky, those cable could ride upward and end up injuring or killing a driver... all it takes is a couple bolts failing....
Tractor trailer trucks are chaos period. Personally I think separate interstate systems should be built for them completely getting them away from passenger vehicles no matter how outrageously complex and expensive it is to accomplish.
That is only good for ONE incident. Gravel runouts can be used again, and again without having to rebuild the cable barricades. Just a huge waste of taxpayer $$$, the fools. The state simply needs to either build gravel runouts, buy out the properties in the community, or build a bypass going around the town. This is a waste.
I used to drive trucks through Utah and it is my opinion that the new ramp is not a solution by itself. The design of it might give the impression that it is closed. Why would I think that? Believe it or not there were several closed for a time due to budget cuts. So with that knowledge and seeing a fence across the ramp in a questionable situation, that alone will reduce it's use. Also, as the report states it is a distance from the intersection. Truck brake fade is not a simple situation. Sometimes waiting 3 seconds can make a difference. Sometimes that 3 seconds will be suicidal. The solution is training and experience. The best solution for the state? Signage. Starting 20 miles or more before the hill. Lots of caution signs and yellow flashing lights. Maybe a billboard or two with accident pictures. Use creative wording on the caution signs. Reduce the speed limit to 15 mph below where they think trucks should be going. At 10 over a ticket is an acceptable risk. At 15 it becomes a federal issue. The ramp is a complete waste of money and I am confident there was some influence by the company behind this new system. Utah is experienced in truck ramps. Why would they build this?
Retired trucker here..... minimal damage to the truck, my a$$! Those cables are going to do some serious $ damage but of course that’s better than loss of life but..... traditional run off ramps wouldn’t
He said one key thing. “IF” they will use it. I have a feeling you’re gonna have more I’m thinking they can stop before the intersection but not make it. A lot of truckers will not want to ruin their truck by running through the runaway ramp
You understand they are not talking about a driver issue but a truck issue? Breaks are giving up and therefore they cant take the corner. Hitting a McDonald's won't help
@@socialmedia1276 He is saying the drive through is slow. Therefore the trucks will be slow. It is a driver issue mostly cause they are using the brakes and likely not the Jake brake so the truck is breaking cause of a bad driver. Also it’s brakes not breaks
@@socialmedia1276 It’s 100% a drivers issue. Truck brakes are fail safe. The only way they fail is if a driver rides the brakes instead of downshifting to a lower gear before going downhill.
If you have that many trucks a day and one truck uses it how fast can it be set up for the next truck that may need it, and the next after that and so on?
$5MIL huh? More proof of taxpayer cash waste. But pretty sure local officials got a piece of it from the company who built that. They always do. Everywhere.
Well I can't say of how petty and ignorant the OP is... but i can say that this system will work even in harsh winter weather that effectively kills traditional arrester beds.
So when a truck has to use it and destroys the cables and other pieces on top of destroying the truck the down time for repair is making it useless. Gravel while messy and the use of a tow rig provides a quicker turnaround for the next truck. Waste of money.
A more cost-effective answer would be to install a chicane, lined with Jersey barrier or energy-absorbers. Force every vehicle to be under control before it enters the populated area, regardless of type.
So instead of installing 5-6 signs up the roadway a little bit, the govt. in all its wisdom spent millions on an optional runaway ramp. Only in America can local officials be this stupid.
There are speed limit signs, slippery when wet signs, stop signs, yield signs, school zone signs,etc... up and down every road every where and people don't obey the signs. I don't live there, but I'm pretty sure there were signs posted. Signs are only effective if drivers are responsible and obey them.
I've been a professional driver for over 2 decades and in the truck industry since I was born. The problem is new drivers are being improperly trained. I rarely use brakes, and if you follow the golden rule of going two to three gears lower than what you went up in the engine will slow the truck down.
id like a follow up to see how many times this was used vs. how many trucks crashed down the road. i cants see why anyone would have used the cables and not gravel
Properly maintained and operated rigs will virtually never need a runaway ramp. It's shoddy mechanical work and poor driving techniques that cause brake failure.
I’ve driven some questionable equipment in my day and without engine brakes and I never had a these kinds of problems. For 3 decades now the students trained themselves in the CDL era.
@@rayrpuente Yep. They just mash on the brakes constantly coming down from higher elevations and by the time they get to the bottom (in town), what a surprise, no brakes. Skilled drivers know better and always have a feel for all aspects of the current condition of whatever it is you're driving. Most people's driving skills and situational awareness are worse than total shit.
@@wessonliam7423 A qualified driver knows how to spot mechanical problems and address the issue, weather or not the company decides to fix it, it is ultimately the drivers decision to take the truck out of service. A steering wheel holder/unqualified driver will just drive the truck till it does not stop correctly and injure people and doesnt know any better.
Gravel wont destroy the body of the truck. But we all know what steel cables will do. Even spring loaded ones. Drivers who dont know about the cable function will fear massive damage.
I'm confused, first they're saying it's a new light for the intersection and they don't realize it's only left or right, then they developed an off ramp with gates prior to the intersection but then show a truck skidding past the new runaway ramp! 🤔
I suspect the cost is because it is supposed to be reuseable. The net is supposed to catch the truck and continue to move which is why it is attached to (I suspect, hydraulic) cables.
Like the 138 exit south bound on the cajon pass, doesnt happen often but it does and will again(although I havent been there in almost a decade so they may have fixed it)
@@edwardmmanns7454 right? There is only so many dollars and time and as contractors what you bid is what you get. There are change orders for many different reasons but utah roads are these guys specialty and as a udot job I would hope that you could get a foia break down of cost. I know not many care but you make this a habit it becomes policy
On a "out west" trip in '18, I noticed some runaway ramps that looked like the barriers were made of criss-cross patterns of giant seat belt material, or the webbing material on a ratchet strap. Similar to the catch barrier on an aircraft carrier. Colorado or WY I think. Looked a lot cheaper and not as destructive on the vehicle.
Needs a sign or something say wire stop ramp or new run off system cause I would really think that was closed I used to gravel or the high hill ones on the Colorado mountain. Also what counts as minimal damage? Not to mention it’s not that the truckers aren’t “slowing down” its usually that one gear out of the 18 gear shifts in a rig has slipped, rain or ice causing less friction, and/or the load behind the rig continues to push the truck forward even with brakes. Usually we’re going the speed limit on the gauge but the load weighs so much it slows the momentum of the rig until you try to stop and the load tries to keep going.
If a driver is making a split decision in a runaway truck I think his first thought upon seeing those gates is gonna be “well crap. It’s closed.”
🤣🤣🤣 That's funny!
I think a first thought might be " I ain't going there cause them bolts in them gates is going to mess up my paint job."
true words
ya been in the gravel twice, both due to black ice,and literally got pulled out by dot grader with no damage, those gates might stop , but will destroy the truck in the processes ,,, rain on one side of mountain , freezing rain on the north slope,, already on down grade 13% before you hit it ,, puckers you up a little hahaha
You got a point.
No ones going to talk about how that trucker did that sick ass turn on 2 wheels tho?😂🤣
I was so surprised! I've seen trucks roll while correcting and still going straight. This guy goes 90 degrees and still saves it.
Technically 9 wheels....😇
So a 5 million dollar truck ramp or go around the corner on 2 wheels ?
@@tristanwwsd 😂
I'll bet the driver is good at pinball.
Ah yes, tilting an 18 wheeler on its side is 2 wheels
She must be a mathematician
Nah bro trucker is just neo from the matrix he forgot the other wheels had to be on the truck.
yes because it makes much more sense to say made it by on 8 wheels
@@xDubstepify It doesn't, but it is the truth lol
@@xDubstepify I would've said "With half its wheels on the air"
9...9 wheels 😂
5 million? That's crazy! A gravel run way / pit is just as affective and can be reused and does minimal damage to the truck.
The bad thing is that because of the terrain, a gravel run-away-pit can't be used. It's something that this video doesn't mention, but others about this same area do.
@@firelightning5018 I would like to know. Why can't a gravel type be used here?
@@richardmoreno5160 Apparently it’s a canyon.
@@richardmoreno5160 if not mistaken, it's in a very short flat area of the highway. The gravel ramps need to be long for it to work properly on flat land. The only way gravel ramps can be short it is if the area allows for a up hill ramp to use gravity to decrease the truck's speed. This area has none of those qualities.
And without an expensive reset.
$5 Million
Actual cost: $700K
Rest of the money: Politician and construction owner bank accounts
$5M after initially quoted $4M only a25% overrun.
That's pretty good by the overrun standards here in Australia.
We do everything bigger,we get budget overruns of 60 -70%.
I think you're right there, looks to be about $300k of concrete, nets probably about $200K, another $200K in labour and materials. $5 million my ass.
Oh thank god
Yeah most likely
Gotta feed the pigs at the government pork farm.
The real story that needs investigating is the 5 million dollar cost.
5 million is cheaper than paying a family for loss of life if someone gets hit and killed or to rebuild a business. Trucking company would make the argument the state didn't have a safe runaway ramp... Legal bullshit. Udot will get there money back by truck company's to fix the catch fence and insurances
@@be5575 Still that cost is beyond absurd for some steel rope and concrete barriers haha.
@@be5575 Udot will get the money back by passing more ridiculous laws and fining truckers who make too much.
Yes, some one just pocketed a bunch of money. Ridiculous how much 'studies' cost.
Exactly my thoughts, people say its cheaper than paying a family from a trucker hitting them but what if parts flying off the truck hits and kills a passing motorist? Its a lot of “what ifs” related to this rig stopper since nothing is slowing any debris from flying across the road, guess that common sense study will be another $2m
Seems like we're kind of reinventing the wheel here. I'm definitely not convinced this is better or less damaging than gravel.
Kind of agree, if it ain't broke...
They aren't reinventing anything though, this kind of tech has been used by the military to stop terrorist truck bombs from making it to important buildings for the past 15 or 20 years. The only difference is this one in particular slows the truck down as opposed to just stopping it out right. Might even be cheaper than gravel because it doesn't need to be replaced all the time, you just press a couple buttons, reel the gates back into place and reset the system.
Yes true but it better they running over a school bus.
It certainly costs a LOT more to put back into operation.....now doesnt it???
MORE MUNNY TO STEAL!!!!
I wanted to see it in action I bet it’ll mess up a truck real bad
This runaway ramp is similar to how aircraft land on an aircraft carrier. Carriers use thick cables and a set of heavy duty hydraulic systems to arrest landing vehicles.
Ikr. I was an A.O. on the USS George Washington and see this all day. Even sleeping at night you can feel the boat shake when one would land on the deck. 01-05.
@@MelodethMike803 oh. I'm just an auto technician. I'm into machines, boats, trains, planes all of them.
@@jamesturner2126 Nothing wrong with that. Those cables are pretty thick. Once in awhile a cable would snap and you better hope you're not in the way when it does. Lol
@@MelodethMike803 of course they're stopping like 40,000lbs at 100mph, as the pilot throttles up. Such a weird landing system, so cool.
They arrest planes!? Man, these mandatory minimum sentences are out of control
As a trucker I can say that those cables are going to be very intimidating to use, its going to take more and more for someone to decide to use it
I would have pushed for gravil much more
Less intimidating than going through a building!
@@paulscott6605 more intimidating than running into a gravel runaway truck lane
Those cables look like death waiting.
There is gravel too i think, and its better than killing innocent people.....
They’re only doing this because it cost millions and they can hide money inindividuals pockets. Gravel doesn’t cost hardly anything why else would they be doing this
We have one of these truck ramps installed on the road above the town where I live. It's called a Catch Net System. Over the past 14 years, it has been used 7 times. It works. All of the truck drivers who were forced to use this ramp walked away without a scratch. Five other drivers who lost their brakes and chose not to use the ramp all died.
I do not know what the initial cost was to build the thing, but I do know that the cost to repair it and put it back in operation is approximately $13,000 per gate. Which the truckers insurance company pays for. The trucks that have used it, have went through between 3 and 7 gates, depending on there speed and how heavy the load was, before they came to a stop.
The time to repair the gates and have it back in operation again is about 30 minutes per gate. The damage to the truck is minimal, usually the front bumper is bent and the fiberglass hood is cracked and broken. The small amount of damage to the truck is quite surprising.
To all those that say a gravel ramp would be a lot cheaper. I agree, but in our case, we did not have the option of putting in a gravel ramp. The road runs down through a canyon with a 8% grade, a mountain on one side and a steep drop off on the other.
This road is similar to the one in Buffalo, albeit snaking down off a mountain instead of through a canyon. They didn't have the space for a traditional ramp here either, despite what all of the temporarily-disgraced truck-driving mountain-highway-engineers in the comments seem to think. This thing will save lives.
$13,000 for a 30-minute repair? No thanks. They can have rocks...
Well researched and well said👍
@@kennethcdeli premade nets are the cost. 30 minutes to take out the old one and replace it.
@@Nelo390 rocks are cheaper.
note how one said “if the truckers will use” …because they know it’s a high possibility a trucker is not going to want to use that ramp and we can understand why .. when forced to make a decision in a matter of seconds , i don’t think truckers have time to think whether or not that can be used or whether it’s a closed road .
I use to drive semi. I was amazed how many times I insisted as a rookie to stop at the top and set the slack adjusters for the brakes bc. they were WAY OFF. Then just before adjustment, I'd call the senior driver underneath and say "You need to take a look at this." So many incompetent drivers, and I"m not just talking semi. I'm including the general population.
The days when a 9/16 wrench was required equipment
Used to haul 5 and 6 axle heavy trailers in Ontario Canada, before automatic slack adjustors came out, every trip needed to adjust the brakes and yes, most of the time they were way off
You sir, are a true professional. There a a lot of “Drivers” out there that only know how to hold the steering wheel.
Having a downhill highway run into town as part of t-junction has never been a good idea, not today, not 200yrs ago.
BINGO! There's the problem.
@Javier N That's not really gonna help in this scenario, the truck will simply go over the roundabout.
@Javier N lol
@Javier N That would be awesome to see😂😂😂
@Javier N LOL!
What the hell is wrong with gravel? Won’t tear up truck and you would save 4.7 million dollars!
How about paying attention and being observant of your driving environment...
Jeff Reeves it’s great when you do those things and it’s a mechanical failure that doesn’t allow for an actionable correction.
It maybe due to limited space?? Just a guess , judging by the length of the cable barrier area.
@@Chevy4x4dawg I live in Australia and we have the gravel pits with these things in the very last part of it so that the truck has to be at an extreme speed to reach them
The issue is for the gravel pit you need to be going uphill, but here it's heading downhill
“If the truckers will use it”.
Well kinda your fault for using steel instead of gravel.
5$ million!!?? I’m sure they want more so they can steal the 4 million extra that wasn’t needed
Except it works better than gravel
@@niyablake and unlike gravel/sand arrester beds... this thing can be equipped with a heating system since it's clearly at altitude--- thus preventing ice from interfering with it's efficacy...
unlike sand/gravel beds, which ARE susceptible to ice.
@@niyablakeNo it does not.
@@LincolnHawk-bk5yrShow me proof it does not
One thing will increase the usage of the ramp. You need a sign before the ramp that says "No citations issued to truck using ramp."
Most companies will fire you for using the ramp since you usually need a crane to get a truck out of it
@@Wtfsazerk Somehow I doubt that. I drove for forty years and never heard of that as a reason for firing.
Hey that's pretty neat and I'm glad they put those engineering degrees to good use but I'm pretty sure rocks are cheaper than steel.
And sand wouldn’t rust over the years.
Not only that I got a feeling that will tear a cab right off the frame or even tear apart a driver.
exactly, why just not use the normal runaqay ramps filled with sand or whatever material? isn't that better ?
Rocks or sand would cause less damage too.
@@perlamiseriaccia do they require more space than the metal wires potentially?
I say give 5 million to the dude that pulled off the two wheel stand turn
He still cleaning his shorts
At the very least, he should get of year's supply of fresh fruit of the looms.
Yes let's give 5mil to an idiot you can't control the speed of their load down hill
The trailer was likely lightly loaded or empty. But wow! That was very impressive!
I say keep that driver away from anything with more power that a 5 horse briggs and Stratton
Loved her last comment. "If this works, may use in other parts of the state. " Someone don't believe they are going to work.
"minimal damage to your truck" looks like it's gonna total the rig! I mean, if it keeps everyone safe that's the goal. But suggesting it's going to cause minimal damage to your truck seems like a stretch
Yep, $10k of damage to the plastic, guaranteed.
5 million and “if it’s successful “ should not go together.
Hahahahahah. Thanks for that.
It's either going to stop the truck. Or make a lot of square cubes.
Exactly. Obviously they have new seen what a wire cable does to fibreglass. Especially with the weight and speed of a runaway truck.
Plus you have to reset that ramp after every use and that can take some time. Unlike a gravel one you still can use it after the first truck. Yes the ramp does need to be smoothed out after use but just in case an emergency it can be used more than once.
I’ve seen two trucks lose breaks at once and the gravel worked so how would this work for two trucks at the same time or close to the same time ?
And whats the cost to get it back up and working after being used, and how many months will that take?
Not to mention damage to the truck.
Gravel pits are used for a reason.
Gravel pits are used cause they didn’t have any alternative, they’re better than nothing
@@j.b.9895 They work -- and it takes a state worker in a backhoe about, what, 10 minutes after it's used to prepare it again? This thing stinks on ice, therefore it comes as no surprise that the state of Utah would approve it...smdh
I have seen several videos of trucks crashing on a standard run away ramp. This technique has been used for years on aircraft carriers, and works well. Good enough to save multimillion dollar aircraft.
@@dw8773 czcams.com/video/jp7N9NgSTlQ/video.html
@@robertheinkel6225 with a drag bar not wraping them around the cockpit. & this totals the trucks not saves them
Could of been a Minimal damage gravel runaway ramp but rather they installed a total distruction of truck and human life giant cable potato slicer.
I was waiting to see those cables in action (a test).... still curious to see how they suppose to work?!
@@3abbosi there is a video of them somewhere on yt
@@3abbosi they absorb and grab the truck...but the truck will be completely messed up
With departments of transportation, or most government entities, minimal damage is never better than total destruction. Then they demand more funding. Notice how it was supposed to cost $4m, but costed $5m. Regardless of efficacy, they want to roll it out to other locations.
Ah, sand/gravel runaway ramps are not causing “minimal” damage. Units pulled from this type of catcher are almost always totaled
Years ago DuPont made a mud flap for big rigs that eliminated 98% of the mist that comes from truck tires when the road is wet. No one uses them.
I'm an old professional truck driver and my grandfather also he taught me do not go down a hill faster than you went up crawl down the hill and do not pump the brakes pumping the brakes cause fire slight pressure slow speed you'll never have a problem downhill with any load.
5 million? I need to get into the truck run away ramp business! ASAP!
Yeah, they inflated the cost among themselves, like landlords, engineering firm, local officials, manufacturers and suppliers, etc. It is American Made Run Away Ramp.
I can do one of those for 5 thousand and a couple of burritos
it is the development costs i think.
@@memonavaramirez6261 and completed in half the time probably.
@@memonavaramirez6261 $5,000 is just for getting a permit to construct on federal highway. I guess the burritos can be handed out to city workers to help you get through that process much easier. Now what do you do with $0.
How do you go over budget by $1 million for such a small project. How did that even cost $5 million?
Anything done with government money (taxpayers money) is gonna be over budget and unnecessary. Gravel pit would have been better for less than 100k.
Someone lined there pocketbook with the extra mil
Half of it probably went towards city,county, and state fees/permits
I think somebody could put up a hundred fishing nets to stop a truck for way less than $5 million. Lol. The government is an expert at wasting taxpayers money .
It only cost 700k the rest went into their pockets
Gravel, people. Works great. Wont damage your trucks front.
Realizing things may have changed since then, I checked google maps anyway. I started in the street view about 1 mile away from the intersection and then headed back towards the intersection. Things I noticed: No speed limit signs posted anywhere/no signs indicating a T-intersection or a sign with arrows pointing to either side indicated the road doesn't go across. The road is super flat approaching the intersection. The way the houses (houses East of Bear Lake) are aligned in the distance makes the road 'appear' on US-89 to keep straight then curve to the right, following the contour of the houses. Thus appearing like a 4-way intersection. Also, Logan US-89 road heads EAST to Bear Lake. The sun rises in the East. If it's a clear day and the sun is rising, you won't be able to see the traffic light. This 'runaway' ramp seems like a waste of money when proper signage is all that is needed.
Good thing she wore her helmet and vest, while showing us the newly installed truck destroyer. Safety first!
You know that requirement was implemented by OSHA. 😅😅
Looks like the new cat on the job just showing off their safety gear with their first construction job 😂
@@chrisrohls4853 Exactly. We have a safety director at work, that wears his vest while driving in the car.
Charlesbjtown lmao yeah I see fuckers like that all the time
I’m not going to lie I keep a high vest jacket in my trunk I usually drive my car to work and my car usually breaks down lol gotta be safe on the road man fuckers don’t pay attention
Looks like a desk jockey tried to make a better mousetrap. Gravel ramps are very effective and can be made ready to use again in a matter of minutes I wander how long it takes to reset or possibly have to rebuild this contraption or how much it will cost each time. What a waste
You know what they say: if it ain't broke, fix it till it is
Not to mention destroying truck and will make tow company lots of money
You think you’re getting a big truck out of a gravel catcher will take a few minutes? Have you seen videos of trucks running into sand/gravel catchers. It takes days to extract and fill/regrade and the trucks are probably totaled. Also the trucks insurance company is on the hook for the cost
@@SonofTiamat You are 100% correct!
@@j.b.9895 which is why insurance is expensive. Insurance payouts are not free money, those payouts get distributed across policyholders. Gravel won’t destroy a truck like guillotine wire traps that will shred bumper radiator etc.
I drove past this installation literally yesterday and thought to myself how it's the first catch-net system I'd ever seen, and how cool it looks. Hope this new technology really turns out to be an all-around improvement.
That trucker did so well, just amazing.
these truck ramps will destroy the truck, hence why truckers wont use it
“Minimal property damage” my ass...lmao
More like rip the cab right off
@@tylerb1483 $140,000 truck/$25,000 trailer,$250,000shipmint / $1,000,000 driver (non of which the driver will have to pay. vs. property $200,000/ building $180,000 /store supply$ 500,000 / +10 people $,10,000,000.
Use the fucking ramp. You might not get hit with a big bill but you sure a fuck will be hit with manslaughter charges.
Fuck your truck.
@@davidrathjen8492 where r u getting a trailer for 25 k I bought mine last year at beginning of 2019 it was new but 2018 model and my step deck tri axel Benson with Conestoga boxes light package lift axel disc brakes was 100thousand and was about 17 thousand cheaper than any other one I found with options and I bought my w900 icon this year specked out and apu added total 250thousand I haul mostly large cat engines most loads are about 1 million on value I don't know why people talk like there is a obvious choice no one is saying not to use it if u can't stop thinking that someone would say that knowing they cant stop they still won't use it is not what anyone is saying they r saying make it a easier choice to make entering it can not only cost their job how they feed their family better road design should be first why would u put a light at bottom of large hill I got another solution driver pay paying driver to preform a pre trip inspection and post trip pay the driver to stop at break check station and check his breaks pay for any work we have to do to make sure truck is safe but they won't they want driver to work for free and that's why things get overlooked he is trying to make money and he is not making money checking his breaks and got to get miles in when ur on a clock so moral of story believe it or not u get what u pay for I'm a owner operator but I was company driver 10 years ago
LOL those truckers will pass right by it. Just look at the 11' 8" Bridge, signs every where and flashing. It's constantly ran into.
Yup. My thoughts exactly. I'm not crashing my tractor.
My favorite bridge
Most of those are box trucks, not the same type of trucks and drivers for comparison, however there are a lot of incompetent drivers for sure.
I dont know any truckers willing to drive into a metal net. Shouldve just used sand and gravel pit, they work just fine
@@Darkrider8893 i wouldn't drive my truck into it.....but I also would be using my Jake and not smoking the brakes like a rookie
I used to work at a paper mill in middle of South Carolina. For 20 years a truck would turn off the highway going too fast and flip about every 8 months. A few years ago the SC DOT installed a roundabout 1 mile from the mill. Now about every 8 months a truck flips over in the roundabout.... but it doesn't block traffic now... and the paper mill hasn't had a truck flip over in the entrance in a few years. So the solution for this town is to change that off ramp to have a tight turn... cause the runaway trucks to flip on their sides before they get to the bottom of the exit ramp. If you can't make the drivers be more careful then perhaps hte best solution is to allow them to have their "accident" where there is no business or buildings.
Who was the smart ash that built a store at the end of that road in the first place???
Try who is the idiot that put a highway there
The age old question which came first the chicken or the egg? Or in this case the store or the highway?
@madtrucker0983 not really, those store have absoloutly been there a lot longer than that ramp. It follows the same pattern they have been using on all these highway ramps the last decade or so.
Engineers: Lets find the most expensive way to to stop a run away semi and to destroy it at the same time....
Right. I wonder if a classic sand/gravel filled lane would have done just as well. Like in Brazil
@@_Mr.Tuvok_ or all over the rest of the US. Sand and gravel is the way or some other surface substrate, ficking nets!? Really...bye truck
@@oak8728 there isnt enough room for a sand/gravel ramp there, thats why it used a different design
@@chuck8178 after doing more internet research on these ramps I unfortunately concur. I mean fak the insurance companies anyways, they’ll be the one eating the short term loss.
@@oak8728 understand able have a nice week!
There's probably a "no engine brake allowed" at the top of the grade.
That’s why they be crashing, jakes save lives
I’m a trucker and I can speak for your comment it does say engine breaks prohibited for X amount of miles. So what I do is take my grade down slow and use my transmission and engine to slow it down without jake brakes. Overall yes jake brakes are very very important on your rig that will definitely help you out going down a grade and keep your truck at a lower speed.
@@ricardoh1787 I've seen no engine brake in some of the dumbest places. I sincerely think the officials and politicians who have these policies put in place are completely clueless as to what us truck drivers have to deal with.
@@mache3984 I totally agree with you but hey us truck drivers need to follow the rules or else we will get our license taken away and possibly thrown in jail but yes it sure is in some of the dumbest places possible in which I do believe we do need to use jake brakes.
I wouldn’t care if I needed engine brake at the top I will use it. Decide what rule you will break no jake brake or no entering sports good store with semi
Why doesn't the city and state choose an alternative route or exit ramp especially for trucks away from this exit point?
Nobody searched for this but yet we’re all pleased with the video
I’ve been on that road multiple times. It’s not even that bad. There are plenty of signs long before you get to the end, telling you the grade percentage and how far it is to a traffic light at the bottom. It’s unfortunate that they need stuff like this. We need better training of drivers.
If it is marked as you say, those drivers should face stiff consequences for crashing. Perhaps 90 days probation and their boss reviewing their dmv h6.
Bravo! That is true!!!
Doesnt matter how many signs are there.. if the brakes are faded ur in for a hairy ride 😂
Yeah I've been on that highway many times as well- it really isn't that bad. I think what is happening is that some drivers are underestimating the distance to the light and they are burning their brakes up before getting to that light. They will probably have to lower the speed limit on the downgrade, so that trucks will have an easier time stopping.
Um, do some of you know what a "runaway truck" is?! I'm wondering why the hell there is an intersection at the end.
Some of the things my 10 weeks driving school taught us in 1991 were brakes, brake check areas, brake adjusting. Apparently in the 3-4 week schools today it's not being taught. I'm retired now but whenever I picked up a trailer I adjusted it's brakes before leaving with it. I rarely saw another driver do it. If I was still pulling the same trailer a few days later I'd adjust the brakes on it again. I know what runaway ramps are for and I tried to avoid them. Between 1991 and 2018 I did just that. Training companies need drivers to have at least 1.5 years of experience before they let them be trainers instead of some of them letting them train with only 6 months solo experience. It can take you 6 months to start to understand what it really means to be a solo driver.
Im not sure what the curriculum talks about self adjusting slack adjusters, but i hope they still would teach to check them because they do fail as well. Ive had many drivers come to the shop complaining about the park brakes dont hold. All find all 4 rear brakes completely stroked out even though it has self adjusting.
@@dieselgaint, when I started driving in 1991 there were parking brakes on each chamber and then someone got a wild idea to not put them on one drive axle.🤦🏼♂️ To me that was stupid.
@@donotneed2250 agreed. That's what my truck has is only parking brakes on one axle. Its to save cost and weight...dumb!
@@dieselgaint, right. And I used to get crazy looks from some drivers when I lowered the landing gear on the trailer before being loaded/unloaded. I also went to a few places that required it. If I was picking up heavy I'd drop the airbags first then lower them to prevent struggling when it's time to leave. Reinflating the airbags raises the landing gear for easy roll up.
i deal with drivers all the time, i had to fix a reefer, the guys slack adjuster was just hanging off the trailer, what does he do? keeps driving instead of calling out for service, drivers these days are dangerous.
Truck taking out that sporting goods store shows the correct meaning of business impact. 😉😁😂
Gravel slows all the tires, these things take all the momementum at the front of the truck, won't that cause a jack knife situation? Or the trailer load running into the cab? I would want to see the concept proven before I would use it but suppose if it was out of control before getting to it and knew what was coming after I might try it and hope for the best.
just another example of politicians that are looking out for their business partners.
Q: what is wrong with 3 ft deep gravel for 100 yards?
A: we cant justify costing $5M.
How about truck drivers that know their stuff and slow down way before they burn up their brakes?
In California the trucks have to to go 55 mph on the highway.
@@The105ODST which makes thing even more dangerous because no cars in Cali follow the speed limit. 75+ mph rear ending 55 mph doesnt end well.
i dont really think there is a correlation between speed limit and losing your brakes on hills. donner pass is the only one that i would really consider a danger in california.
i think states that have a seperate speed for trucks actually do more harm than good.
@@spencerphilippinedream3706 There is a strong correlation. If the driver does not recognize the danger and proceeds downgrade without reducing their speed, they can and will lose their brakes. Once the brakes heat up to a certain point, it becomes a lost cause. It's almost happened to me a few times until I wised up.
That runaway truck ramp is ridiculous on every level. Cost (5million, seriously?), time and cost to get it back online after use, catastrophic damage to the truck, and effectiveness. The awarding of this contract should be investigated because I smell a rat.
Her "news reporter" on-air voice is freakin hilarious! 🤣
Where can I find footage of this truck ramp in use or testing? I wanna see it in action!
$5 million really. Sand pit the same length works just as good. People got robbed.
Not to mention it take like 20 years to build laughing out loud
czcams.com/video/jp7N9NgSTlQ/video.html
Utah isn't known to be the brightest state.
Cha-ching...$5 million replacement charge any time it's used.
Mormons have $100 billion so its ok
Nobody's talking about the smoking brakes at 1:44?? That News team was sooooooo close to having witnessed / captured a runaway that day!
Smoking brakes drove right past the runaway.
@@sh0t0kan ...correction, I meant another runaway (due to lack of brakes).
@@EXOVCDS oh, I just thought you were talking about the rig passing the runaway and the worker was looking at him like WTF man
5 million dollars, come on man who all got a piece of that action.
How far is the ramp from the intersection? Seems like that's a factor you didn't address.
Wasting Money on a problem that isn't Broken, Gravel Ramps are very effective and don't Destroy the Truck while stopping them
I agree, wasted a lot more money on something thats gonna have a lot more maintenance and destroy the front end of the truck. With gravel you get pulled out and most likely go on your way.
Somebody in government watcheed too many aircraft carrier youtube videos.
That’s what insurance is for ✌️
Can’t make your payment now you know where to go
@@Cp3659 Invalid argument.
@@stewartj3407 It looks like it will completely destroy the truck if the truck doesn’t travel straight through it.
1:08
That’s some serious semi truck drifting skills there!
I actually parked for the night in that parking lot where the road ends. Great tourist food places all around and the water so clear and shallow for a quarter mile out.
And how much does it cost to replace that setup every time a truck has to use it vs smoothing out gravel.
5 mil for some cables and cement huh? lol what a joke
Shut up it is saving lives
labor is a resource too bud. That don't come for free. You must be a trump supporter.
Engineering, testing, creating, certifying
@Danny Bowen wrong
5mil is nothing when it comes to construction. Maybe in 1975 that would be absurd but not today
That looks like it would cause a lot of damage to the truck, compared to a sand trap
That’s exactly what I thought too, gravel works just as well and cost way less. Seems like a no brainer to me..
Plus they can make money for the repairs on the ramp.
czcams.com/video/jp7N9NgSTlQ/video.html
1:45 the person speaking seems to think that steel cabling will do "minimal damage" to fiberglass and other soft parts of the truck.
Apparently, he's never priced a hood, front grill, radiator, fan assembly and more if all that gets shoved into the engine.
@@Texas240 Watch the video I posted above, there's a demostration at the end. It's pretty similar to the mechanism used on aircraft carriers
Those "nets" are much like what aircraft carriers use to "catch" planes that are unable to use the arresting cables for whatever reason, though onboard carriers there is just one big net strung across the flight deck for the pilot to aim for...and it isn't made out of cables, but rather, really strong nylon (?) straps.
Props to the driver that made the corner.
Gravel would be more successful. Some drivers will not want to damage their trucks with this cable version. They might test their luck instead of certain damage.
Exactly what I said fuck that this gravel pit or nothing they need to stop fucking with shit that works and has Literally no affect your vehicle
what about the arresting nets for aircrafts? They don't destroy planes
First: piss poor design....dangerous...Second: the truck drivers that would need this need to learn better braking management before ever driving any mountaneous terrain, better training for drivers that would be driving in these areas of the country....
They were probably texting and not paying attention.
The truck that hits it is going to be totaled. Unless it has a moose killer bumper on it. That will take the hood and radiator to start. No damage is bs. FYI most drivers that use these have been driving for years and got complacent. You can go down a thousand times to slow but it only takes on time too fast!
@@brianmuse7215 No they don't total trucks. Their whole point is they don't. The other styles of truck off ramps with gravel and sand total trucks and put the driver at risk. The truck also gets stuck. These can be reset very fast too while also being much safer for the driver and while not ruining the truck and cargo. There are demonstrations and videos on this. That is the whole reason why this new technology is being used now.
WaterspoutsOfTheDeep I can’t seem to find a video on this damage free system. When that plastic hood hits that cable and then rips through the radiator cab etc. it’s going to total the truck. My truck was hit sitting in a truck stop and had $20,000 damage to the hood etc. I don’t see a damage free truck shredder there
@@brianmuse7215 nope, not at this spot... not sure what those engineers were thinking.... if they are lucky the truck will be totaled and they'll walk away, but if they aren't lucky, those cable could ride upward and end up injuring or killing a driver... all it takes is a couple bolts failing....
Big ups on that driver making the tight right turn on 2wheels!!!!
Tractor trailer trucks are chaos period. Personally I think separate interstate systems should be built for them completely getting them away from passenger vehicles no matter how outrageously complex and expensive it is to accomplish.
That is only good for ONE incident. Gravel runouts can be used again, and again without having to rebuild the cable barricades.
Just a huge waste of taxpayer $$$, the fools.
The state simply needs to either build gravel runouts, buy out the properties in the community, or build a bypass going around the town. This is a waste.
My thoughts exactly. Too many points for failure as well....and the fact that it clearly destroys the truck.
Actually the people in the office pocket 4 million and only spent 1 million on construction! Same with all bidens and all presidents spending bills
There is not enough room for that. So they had to redesign a different way along with a shorter way.
Well said. The gravel will also not total the rig.
@@carlosjuarez7522, the same with all people in government positions.
"It's a big club, & you ain't in it."
I used to drive trucks through Utah and it is my opinion that the new ramp is not a solution by itself. The design of it might give the impression that it is closed. Why would I think that? Believe it or not there were several closed for a time due to budget cuts. So with that knowledge and seeing a fence across the ramp in a questionable situation, that alone will reduce it's use.
Also, as the report states it is a distance from the intersection. Truck brake fade is not a simple situation. Sometimes waiting 3 seconds can make a difference. Sometimes that 3 seconds will be suicidal. The solution is training and experience.
The best solution for the state? Signage. Starting 20 miles or more before the hill. Lots of caution signs and yellow flashing lights. Maybe a billboard or two with accident pictures. Use creative wording on the caution signs.
Reduce the speed limit to 15 mph below where they think trucks should be going. At 10 over a ticket is an acceptable risk. At 15 it becomes a federal issue.
The ramp is a complete waste of money and I am confident there was some influence by the company behind this new system. Utah is experienced in truck ramps. Why would they build this?
Retired trucker here..... minimal damage to the truck, my a$$! Those cables are going to do some serious $ damage but of course that’s better than loss of life but..... traditional run off ramps wouldn’t
that works only if drivers are paying attention .
You're right the ramp looks like it would be closed.
@@wrzl1675 czcams.com/video/jp7N9NgSTlQ/video.html
I can't read all of that wtf XD
He said one key thing. “IF” they will use it. I have a feeling you’re gonna have more I’m thinking they can stop before the intersection but not make it. A lot of truckers will not want to ruin their truck by running through the runaway ramp
They need to make a runaway truck ramp with thousands of Stretch Armstrong's at the end of it. Much more effective
can they also add a high def camera with a good line of sight and then post the results to CZcams?
Then they could pay for the ramp via ad revenue.
@@garcjr lmao genius 🤣
+1. I'd like to see the videos of all the trucks that will go past this new runaway ramp, that should have taken it.
That will add another 5 mill to the tab
Put in a McDonalds drive thru. Problem solved.
Starbucks will DEFIMITELY solve the problem.
You understand they are not talking about a driver issue but a truck issue? Breaks are giving up and therefore they cant take the corner. Hitting a McDonald's won't help
@@socialmedia1276 He is saying the drive through is slow. Therefore the trucks will be slow.
It is a driver issue mostly cause they are using the brakes and likely not the Jake brake so the truck is breaking cause of a bad driver.
Also it’s brakes not breaks
@@socialmedia1276 WHOOOOOSH
@@socialmedia1276 It’s 100% a drivers issue. Truck brakes are fail safe. The only way they fail is if a driver rides the brakes instead of downshifting to a lower gear before going downhill.
Can we get a update? Did it work? Are there other locations for the innovative ramp.
If you have that many trucks a day and one truck uses it how fast can it be set up for the next truck that may need it, and the next after that and so on?
$5MIL huh? More proof of taxpayer cash waste. But pretty sure local officials got a piece of it from the company who built that. They always do. Everywhere.
Well as long as you're "pretty sure" that's good enough for me. LOCK THEM UP!
Well I can't say of how petty and ignorant the OP is...
but i can say that this system will work even in harsh winter weather that effectively kills traditional arrester beds.
So when a truck has to use it and destroys the cables and other pieces on top of destroying the truck the down time for repair is making it useless. Gravel while messy and the use of a tow rig provides a quicker turnaround for the next truck. Waste of money.
I couldn't help but think the same thing.
And I bet the build cost would have been WAY cheaper too
My understanding is that even the gravel arrest systems do significant damage to heavy trucks.
A more cost-effective answer would be to install a chicane, lined with Jersey barrier or energy-absorbers. Force every vehicle to be under control before it enters the populated area, regardless of type.
Someone got paid really well for that piece of runaway...$5M WOW!!!!
Not just a tow Bill any more. Now they destroy your truck , tow it to impound , plus cost of maintenance and fixing the lane . Sounds brilliant .
So instead of installing 5-6 signs up the roadway a little bit, the govt. in all its wisdom spent millions on an optional runaway ramp. Only in America can local officials be this stupid.
5mil lol doubt it
There are speed limit signs, slippery when wet signs, stop signs, yield signs, school zone signs,etc... up and down every road every where and people don't obey the signs. I don't live there, but I'm pretty sure there were signs posted. Signs are only effective if drivers are responsible and obey them.
Cause you know... Deadlines..
@wanderer. Yeh, but a trooper can't stop a runaway truck. Speeding isn't the only cause of a runaway truck.
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I've been a professional driver for over 2 decades and in the truck industry since I was born. The problem is new drivers are being improperly trained. I rarely use brakes, and if you follow the golden rule of going two to three gears lower than what you went up in the engine will slow the truck down.
Isn’t there a situation where you go Downhill before going up the hill….. how do you know what gear to use there??
And how does this work? What will be the damages on the truck after use?
This is all unnecessary!,,that last guy made the turn ,,everyone else should too 🤣
Yea, the ones who are paying attention and not texting.
They said he made it on two wheels but wouldn't it be nine wheels?
This is all unnecessary!,,that last guy made the turn ,,everyone else should too 🤣
Probably Ken Bock driving that one
Just another way to spend tax money gravel works just fine
NOT IN ICE IT DONT
this has a heating system, it'll work when traditional beds wont.
Aside from all the other reasons a trucker under pressure would not use this, is the fact its so NARROW!!!
id like a follow up to see how many times this was used vs. how many trucks crashed down the road. i cants see why anyone would have used the cables and not gravel
Properly maintained and operated rigs will virtually never need a runaway ramp. It's shoddy mechanical work and poor driving techniques that cause brake failure.
I think its more of not using a lower gear and engine break than poor maintenance.
I’ve driven some questionable equipment in my day and without engine brakes and I never had a these kinds of problems. For 3 decades now the students trained themselves in the CDL era.
@@rayrpuente Yep. They just mash on the brakes constantly coming down from higher elevations and by the time they get to the bottom (in town), what a surprise, no brakes. Skilled drivers know better and always have a feel for all aspects of the current condition of whatever it is you're driving. Most people's driving skills and situational awareness are worse than total shit.
@@rayrpuente ALL of the above!
Also piss poor training and over confidence
maybe not give cdl's to the people who cannot demonstrate the ability to drive trucks in the first place.
runaway truck = mechanical failure that results in the inability to stop
@@wessonliam7423 A qualified driver knows how to spot mechanical problems and address the issue, weather or not the company decides to fix it, it is ultimately the drivers decision to take the truck out of service. A steering wheel holder/unqualified driver will just drive the truck till it does not stop correctly and injure people and doesnt know any better.
@@wessonliam7423 Thats what pre-checks are for.
But morons like you dont know anything about that.
@@ThunderAppeal Issues can still happen despite pre tripping. Happens to buses quite a bit.
@@wessonliam7423 you ever drive that highway? Its not really meant for semis anyways. Much better to drive thru Randolph.
Gravel wont destroy the body of the truck. But we all know what steel cables will do. Even spring loaded ones. Drivers who dont know about the cable function will fear massive damage.
I'm confused, first they're saying it's a new light for the intersection and they don't realize it's only left or right, then they developed an off ramp with gates prior to the intersection but then show a truck skidding past the new runaway ramp! 🤔
No waste of money. This only works once. If multiple trucks need to use this in a day than they are freaked.
So the exact same with any other runaway......
No big deal they just bill the driver/insurance
@Hello Thomas how are you doing
I suspect the cost is because it is supposed to be reuseable. The net is supposed to catch the truck and continue to move which is why it is attached to (I suspect, hydraulic) cables.
I must say, that last truck looked pretty damn cool hanging that turn. 😂
Like the 138 exit south bound on the cajon pass, doesnt happen often but it does and will again(although I havent been there in almost a decade so they may have fixed it)
UHP and UDOT needs too drop the speed limit down on the Pass to 35mph.Then heavily Patrol it.
Hey, only a 25% cost overrun!
Yeah only 5 million....what the fuck for!?!? Its concrete and cable
I was a self employed carpenter and if a job cost more than I figured I ate it...
@@edwardmmanns7454 right? There is only so many dollars and time and as contractors what you bid is what you get. There are change orders for many different reasons but utah roads are these guys specialty and as a udot job I would hope that you could get a foia break down of cost. I know not many care but you make this a habit it becomes policy
On a "out west" trip in '18, I noticed some runaway ramps that looked like the barriers were made of criss-cross patterns of giant seat belt material, or the webbing material on a ratchet strap. Similar to the catch barrier on an aircraft carrier. Colorado or WY I think. Looked a lot cheaper and not as destructive on the vehicle.
Its actually less damage then gravel
Needs a sign or something say wire stop ramp or new run off system cause I would really think that was closed I used to gravel or the high hill ones on the Colorado mountain. Also what counts as minimal damage? Not to mention it’s not that the truckers aren’t “slowing down” its usually that one gear out of the 18 gear shifts in a rig has slipped, rain or ice causing less friction, and/or the load behind the rig continues to push the truck forward even with brakes. Usually we’re going the speed limit on the gauge but the load weighs so much it slows the momentum of the rig until you try to stop and the load tries to keep going.
its matter now is IF they use them. I know some Truck Drivers have not used them thinking they can still recover.