My old Major always got parked on a hill for a clutch start. Worked for years till one day I wore it for a necktie. Put me in intensive care for 10 days on life support.
@@runningbear1982 yes, the higher the gear you clutch start it in the greater risk of fast speed when it starts. 1st or 2nd gear low range, not high range, to clutch start.
every car should have one! when your battery is dead and you need a jumpstart, a spring start or a shotgun shell start would come in handy! all you need is to get inside the car to acces the key for the spring starter or pop the hood for the shotgun shell starter and start your vechile with no problem!
The problem is with gasoline engines,they need electricity for the ignition systems,ECU,fuel pumps and most diesel vehicles have the same damn electronics and electronic fuel injection!Thats why you cant push start a manual transmission if the battery is too low.
@@georgieippolito9924 that would make them inexpensive and less likely to break down lol more reason they dont want that. Watch the youtube page robotcantina. He does a build on a prius where does that exact idea and just puts a lawnmower engine into it lol. Pretty neat series.
@@georgieippolito9924 true but auto suppliers have friends in high places that shoot down and stop production of cars like that. Theres plenty of auto suppliers around the world with ideas that would turn the auto industry around and make it incredibly affordable and low maintenance but that doesnt make auto suppliers money. The model t originally came in one colour which was black. They then started painting cars to make old ones seem obsolete and less popular. Its cancel culture. Watch vertasiums youtube episode on the lightbulb conspiracy. It explains how companies only make a product last so long so you need to keep coming back.
I suppose today using this system..would require am electric motor to wind it up. Instead of a crank handle..😂😂😂🇬🇧👍 But what a simple and functional system.. First time l have seen this...Great..thank you
Brilliant. No battery needed for a starter motor and you dont have to worry about a dead battery either or a battery that will fail you on a cool morning. Neither is a pony motor needed that also needs fuel. Air starter still needs a compressor and hoses + an energy sauce such as petrol. And it also eliminates the risk a broken arm/hand by hand cranking an engine as in the old days. The simplest and best starter solutions in my opinion is a wind up or initia starter. Simpel and does not need additional power sauce than your arms.
Get rid of spring starter and just have a spring wind up motor. Just wind it up the night before(might take and hour or so) and in the morning flick a lever and off you go. When you go downhill the winder can rewind somewhat to make it easily to wind up at night, could also act as a slowing device. I wonder if this is something to think about? Limited mileage though!
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 trouble with air starters is that if your truck breaks down and loses its air you're stuck.... you need air to start engine but you need to start engine to build up air. Catch 22
Too bad they don't have a way to wind it with engine power using the hydraulic pump or something. Cool device though. No need worry about a bad battery.
Is that original to the tractor? I know you can still buy these spring starters. In fact, I was thinking about using one for one of the projects I would like to do at some point.
So this windup starter idea has obviously been around for a few decades. The recently advertised English one is what I thought was a first. Fordson forever
They're still around/made. They just aren't as "sexy" for the average plebeian since a modicum of effort is required to use one unlike the "just turn a switch till it runs" of the electric system.
You often end up with being unable to start at all if your engine is hard to start. This is because of the spring cranks for to short time and also takes to long to reload so engine manages to cool down to much before next start attempt.
Awful things, fitted few to Ford diesel powered air compressors and fork trucks used in hazardous atmospheres. Might start 1st attempt middle of summer or hot engine, pits of winter you’d be winding for hours. You get about 2 or 3 turns of the engine only for each wind up.... we ended up fitting hydraulic starters to a few and made some hydraulic ‘jump leads’ to attach to another running fork truck.
I'd like to think I'm old enough, at 46, but never have I seen the wind-up starter! If this ain't the coolest thing ever..!
My old Major always got parked on a hill for a clutch start. Worked for years till one day I wore it for a necktie. Put me in intensive care for 10 days on life support.
Bummer. You won't do that again , I forgot to engage 4wd on a hill and it cost me a leg and more when I was found. Others please BE CAREFUL
I dont understand. I clutch start an old case ih and a zetor. Am i in danger im so confused how that could be.
@@dieselthegrey he's just saying he wrecked the tractor, he's not saying that he was hurt starting it.
@@runningbear1982 yes, the higher the gear you clutch start it in the greater risk of fast speed when it starts. 1st or 2nd gear low range, not high range, to clutch start.
every car should have one! when your battery is dead and you need a jumpstart, a spring start or a shotgun shell start would come in handy! all you need is to get inside the car to acces the key for the spring starter or pop the hood for the shotgun shell starter and start your vechile with no problem!
The problem is with gasoline engines,they need electricity for the ignition systems,ECU,fuel pumps and most diesel vehicles have the same damn electronics and electronic fuel injection!Thats why you cant push start a manual transmission if the battery is too low.
@@iuhsdihdslifuvholuidfh they should make engines like lawnmower engines where it has its own coil to create a spark without a battery.
@@georgieippolito9924 that would make them inexpensive and less likely to break down lol more reason they dont want that. Watch the youtube page robotcantina. He does a build on a prius where does that exact idea and just puts a lawnmower engine into it lol. Pretty neat series.
@@bradfader691 if its less likely to break down for cheaper price, more people would buy those cars forcing other companies to do the same thing.
@@georgieippolito9924 true but auto suppliers have friends in high places that shoot down and stop production of cars like that. Theres plenty of auto suppliers around the world with ideas that would turn the auto industry around and make it incredibly affordable and low maintenance but that doesnt make auto suppliers money. The model t originally came in one colour which was black. They then started painting cars to make old ones seem obsolete and less popular. Its cancel culture. Watch vertasiums youtube episode on the lightbulb conspiracy. It explains how companies only make a product last so long so you need to keep coming back.
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Need more spring starters.
Probably a lot more reliable .
Or shell starters. Way cooler
Dad you said this thing had a pony motor!
Pick up that L-shaped bar son, and say, "NAAAYY!"
I suppose today using this system..would require am electric motor to wind it up.
Instead of a crank handle..😂😂😂🇬🇧👍
But what a simple and functional system..
First time l have seen this...Great..thank you
I remember my grampa having several spring start lawn mowers on the farm.
Me to … and even one for a mini bike .. only problem was engine had to be in top Noch shape to fire that first time around .. ( back in the 70s ) ..
Brilliant. No battery needed for a starter motor and you dont have to worry about a dead battery either or a battery that will fail you on a cool morning. Neither is a pony motor needed that also needs fuel. Air starter still needs a compressor and hoses + an energy sauce such as petrol. And it also eliminates the risk a broken arm/hand by hand cranking an engine as in the old days.
The simplest and best starter solutions in my opinion is a wind up or initia starter. Simpel and does not need additional power sauce than your arms.
That's exactly how we started several fordson majors many yrs ago on a farm where I worked
We had spring wind up starters on our lawn movers all over Australia in the 60's & 70's, now there all going rechargable battery
type,
We had a maxwell with a Clinton engine. Worked great
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I have seen them in the handbook but never seen one used. a great idea
All cars need this as an emergency backup
You could always put it in lower gear and ask for a push but the vehicle needs to be a manual gearbox.
@@ranat5526 high gear not low.
@@rzezwicki19802nd gear.
I love how the gentleman could possibly be older than the tractor
He's 78 so pips the major by about 10 years 😀
Very good Starter Motor.
Bateryless😁😁
Never seen one of those before. Ive seen air assist, electric, shot gun blanks, kick start, pony motors and hand crank that i can think of.
Marvelous!!! Nice and easy!
First time seeing this,, although l learned to drive on fordson Major,, British Guyana, now Guyana,, SA,,
We had a major that had that starter , the super major had a cartridge starter.. it was only one I ever seen on a Fordson.
Very Good!..
They seem very good :o)
Get rid of spring starter and just have a spring wind up motor. Just wind it up the night before(might take and hour or so) and in the morning flick a lever and off you go. When you go downhill the winder can rewind somewhat to make it easily to wind up at night, could also act as a slowing device. I wonder if this is something to think about? Limited mileage though!
Haven't seen that before, except Briggs & Stratton did the same about 50 years ago and again about 20 years ago.
That was beautiful.
Seems like you need a little bit bigger a crank there grandpa.
Very cool. I like an old fashion way to start an engine. Very cool indeed.
Electric start beats pony start motor any day
Had quite a bit of experience with Majors but never seen this, was it an option ?
So nice..
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Modern engines in vehicles too need a manual starter like this to start when battery is down
I knew about hand crank starting a model A and I knew about shotgun starting a World war II aircraft I had no idea about this
That’s pretty cool 👍🇺🇸
Better than all these flimsy modern electric starters on these flimsy engines powered by flimsy batteries
Back when Ford was great as in simple dependable sensible ideas
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Cool system
the excuse to why they never made more of these blessings is how hard the starters where to work on.
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Most likely the one's he's talking about is the clock spring type they had on some lawnmowers.
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Kineteco put these back in production several years back. One for an engine this size will easily set you back £3,000.
Indian versions are much cheaper, and do the same job
Cooler than an air starter, if you ask me
Only when your trucks totally out of air when the air tanks are full the air starter wins over cranking anything over by hand
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 trouble with air starters is that if your truck breaks down and loses its air you're stuck.... you need air to start engine but you need to start engine to build up air. Catch 22
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Imagine if it could be loaded up with the engine power the previous time engine got started
That is a capacitor. You could install that in place of a large lead acid battery.
Too bad they don't have a way to wind it with engine power using the hydraulic pump or something. Cool device though. No need worry about a bad battery.
An accumulator could always be added, it’s basically a hydraulic battery or compressed spring.
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Very cool not seen this type of starter. Is that on a tractor and if so what tractor is it, I'm a farmer in the UK 🇬🇧🇿🇦♥️
It's on a fordson e1a major
That's really trick!
If you know where I can get an Fordson engine I would apreciate your help
Nice 😃
Cool
where can you buy such a starter and for how much?
Is that original to the tractor? I know you can still buy these spring starters. In fact, I was thinking about using one for one of the projects I would like to do at some point.
Please share where you can get these
@@scotthanson7888 Google "spring starter". If you intend on getting one, make sure it actually fits your engine
@@pmk2 thanks I am looking now
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Kinetico starters maybe ?
So this windup starter idea has obviously been around for a few decades. The recently advertised English one is what I thought was a first. Fordson forever
I need an engine for my Fordson
why did they die out?
They're still around/made.
They just aren't as "sexy" for the average plebeian since a modicum of effort is required to use one unlike the "just turn a switch till it runs" of the electric system.
Probably too much work for most people.
You often end up with being unable to start at all if your engine is hard to start. This is because of the spring cranks for to short time and also takes to long to reload so engine manages to cool down to much before next start attempt.
As did ours
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What is the name of this technique?
Spring starter
What is this
But it sure would irritate you if you had a starter drive that occasionally skipped from time to time and had to wind it up again. Haha
You mean it would wind you up...?
I believe so, the poster of the video should know.
Где можно купить
Где можно такую вещь заказать,хочу на МТЗ поставить
Я думаю у китайцев должно быть.
@@user-xh9zd7zb6o а как она правильно называется,не подскажите
@@user-ks8xh8kj2d думаю пружинный стартер.
@@user-xh9zd7zb6o спасибо
Dead battery, no problem.
Awful things, fitted few to Ford diesel powered air compressors and fork trucks used in hazardous atmospheres. Might start 1st attempt middle of summer or hot engine, pits of winter you’d be winding for hours. You get about 2 or 3 turns of the engine only for each wind up.... we ended up fitting hydraulic starters to a few and made some hydraulic ‘jump leads’ to attach to another running fork truck.
What Georgie said!!!!!
No electricity needed. At all. All mechanical, baby. Not too picky on fuel either...
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