You never disappoint. It was pretty neat to see you turning on a dime when you first took to the water. It looks like more fun than it is practical but still pretty cool to see. Thanks
Awesome! Keep'em coming. I've seen a device that connects to esc's to give you differential steering with one controller. That would be even more awesomer! Looks to be super maneuverable! Well done sir!
@@notoshaapproved I'm planning to do differential thrust w/ Arduino, but I'd also love to know if there's a more plug-n-play option as well so that anyone can do it without needing to write any code.
Great work, in a different video of yours I asked about haswing protruar 3.0 24v trolling motor. You mentioned their good tm's and I want to ask for are there references to their run time capability with it being different from an outboard motor?
Thanks Travis. I have not seen a head to head with a gas outboard and electric trolling motor. However, gas will have a longer run time with an extra tank at a much lower cost than trying to carry multiple batteries.
Great vid and once again proves the max hull speed theory. You doubled the amount of thrust but didnt double the speed. (This isnt directed at you, i know you understand the concept of max hull speed) I see so many people going big motor or playing with props trying to get more speed out of a yak. When the reality is its not the motor or the prop thats limiting the speed on a kayak.
Thanks. I agree with the max kayak speed theory with standard trolling motors. The 1MPH increase in this test doesn't really count much. I have seen the newer Torqueedos and NVs reach 6MPH on this kayak but those are different motors.
@@Aksmaniyak That was a cool project! @nitewolffishing I've also see the effects of more thrust not really equating to more MPH (or just slightly) and this certainly proves it. At some point, because kayaks don't get on plane, it just maxes out because you're just plowing. Again, great video!
Just trying to understand. I read about the fundamental theory behind the max hull speed theory. But it doesn't make sense that a 10hp Torqeedo would not propel a kayak significantly faster than a 55lb trolling motor, demonstrating that max hull speed is just as dependent on the power as it is design. As the saying goes, given enough momentum, pigs indeed WILL fly.
Bear with me - just trying to make sense of this all. I've read about the max hull theory but it contains a few assumptions which appear to make the theory very condition. It only makes sense that a more power would overcome hull design and that a 10hp Torqeedo would push the same kayak faster than a 30lb thrust trolling motor. And, least of all, the max hull theory appears to be dependent on a kayak being paddled, not powered. That implies just as much a direct dependency on how fast a human can possibly paddle, not only the design of the hull. Add more power, and the hull theory seems to go out the window. As the saying goes, given enough thrust, a pig WILL indeed fly.
Also cool project! I have a challenge for you since your so good at testing stuff. ryobi has come out with a 2,400 CFM battery powered shop fan (they call it a air cannon). I would love to see how one of those would do strapped on the back of a kayak :) Like a mini airboat.
@@Aksmaniyak Yea the leaf blowers were a fail i seen those. But this thing is much larger of a fan. More in like with a shop floor fan. 18in fan with 2400 cfm output may just move a yak :) Iam tell ya if i had the budget i give it a shot lol. Anyways keep up the awesome videos and ideas! I love yours because like me you truly do diy!
the props need to be more behind the kayak, not along the side. you would notice a dramtic speed and thrust increase. like big boats that have 5outboards, youd never see a motor hanging off the side of the boat.
This was just a fun project to see if it was possible. I made a quick double mount with 2x4's. The props would hit each other if mounted off the stern of a kayak. A big boat has more stern to work with and it is also more of a practical power plant. Take this video for what it was meant to be.
Omg I just go the same remote planing to do it on my trolling motor… did you got it working with dual motor setup that help you turn by the speed of the motor instead of Turing the motor with 1 remote? I think I saw it as an function listed on the Amazon listing but cannot find any real instructions how to set it up
Hey i would really like to do this with my kayak im needing dual trolling motors because i want to use it as a mini tug and push boat if you will. I am building a fishing camp out of a 16’ flat boat and truck camper and want to push it and tow it like a barge just because well I work on the tugboats and want to teach my grandsons how we work but on a smaller scale please any info will be mostly appreciated what type of controller is it how do you convert it over
so you cant control both on one controller? using left for the left motor and right direction for the right motor wont work as a way to steer and use one controller? im so ready to jump into this. awesome video
@@Aksmaniyak oh... your channel is all about it. i just stumbled onto this video and didnt realize there was a way lot more. well... im going to start with video 1 and work my way up. thanks for the videos and reply.
To make a dual motor set up useful another component is required. A joystick controller allows for seamless 360º rotation and speed control with the added benefit of the safety of a second motor. If one motor fails the paddle is used as the rudder. czcams.com/video/iZXgDX8Wrw8/video.html Yes 13 years ago. That is remarkable tech. Too bad I can´t find anything compatible for small boats... only big boats with electronic controlled engines Cheers
You never disappoint. It was pretty neat to see you turning on a dime when you first took to the water. It looks like more fun than it is practical but still pretty cool to see. Thanks
Thanks Sammy!
Dual trolling motors?! :O😮 Let's Go!
Thank you for saving me time and money. I came also see if one motor is to loose power u end up doing circles
Very cool and fun experiment!
Thanks! It was fun.
Pretty nice setup, I learned alot from your videos.
Thanks Jason. It was a fun build.
Awesome! Keep'em coming. I've seen a device that connects to esc's to give you differential steering with one controller. That would be even more awesomer!
Looks to be super maneuverable! Well done sir!
Thanks! It does handle really nice and is most awesomest...🙃 What is this secret dual ESC device you speak of?
@@Aksmaniyak I'm trying to find it. It's used for RC tanks so you can control speed and direction with 1 joystick.
@@notoshaapproved I have seen the tank remotes but they have 2 joysticks.
@@Aksmaniyak This is different than that.
@@notoshaapproved I'm planning to do differential thrust w/ Arduino, but I'd also love to know if there's a more plug-n-play option as well so that anyone can do it without needing to write any code.
Epic mate, just epic!
Thanks!
Great video totaly agree one motor is enough thanks for sharing.
Thanks Tony!
Great work, in a different video of yours I asked about haswing protruar 3.0 24v trolling motor. You mentioned their good tm's and I want to ask for are there references to their run time capability with it being different from an outboard motor?
Thanks Travis. I have not seen a head to head with a gas outboard and electric trolling motor. However, gas will have a longer run time with an extra tank at a much lower cost than trying to carry multiple batteries.
Nice setup.
Question: How is you AMP meter holding up and how long have you owned it? I bought one just like it and it didn't last to long.
Thanks John. Glad to hear from you. I have been using it for about 3 years and it hasn't given me any problems.
Great vid and once again proves the max hull speed theory. You doubled the amount of thrust but didnt double the speed.
(This isnt directed at you, i know you understand the concept of max hull speed)
I see so many people going big motor or playing with props trying to get more speed out of a yak. When the reality is its not the motor or the prop thats limiting the speed on a kayak.
Thanks. I agree with the max kayak speed theory with standard trolling motors. The 1MPH increase in this test doesn't really count much. I have seen the newer Torqueedos and NVs reach 6MPH on this kayak but those are different motors.
@@Aksmaniyak That was a cool project! @nitewolffishing I've also see the effects of more thrust not really equating to more MPH (or just slightly) and this certainly proves it. At some point, because kayaks don't get on plane, it just maxes out because you're just plowing. Again, great video!
@@drewgregoryhookedonwildwat6991 Thanks Drew! You would like the first version with the dual Watersnake T24s too. Different control set up.
Just trying to understand. I read about the fundamental theory behind the max hull speed theory. But it doesn't make sense that a 10hp Torqeedo would not propel a kayak significantly faster than a 55lb trolling motor, demonstrating that max hull speed is just as dependent on the power as it is design. As the saying goes, given enough momentum, pigs indeed WILL fly.
Bear with me - just trying to make sense of this all. I've read about the max hull theory but it contains a few assumptions which appear to make the theory very condition. It only makes sense that a more power would overcome hull design and that a 10hp Torqeedo would push the same kayak faster than a 30lb thrust trolling motor. And, least of all, the max hull theory appears to be dependent on a kayak being paddled, not powered. That implies just as much a direct dependency on how fast a human can possibly paddle, not only the design of the hull. Add more power, and the hull theory seems to go out the window. As the saying goes, given enough thrust, a pig WILL indeed fly.
Also cool project!
I have a challenge for you since your so good at testing stuff.
ryobi has come out with a 2,400 CFM battery powered shop fan (they call it a air cannon).
I would love to see how one of those would do strapped on the back of a kayak :)
Like a mini airboat.
Thanks. I've seen the leaf blower versions too...lol. Since I'm an independent, all my projects are based on my budget. But never say never.
@@Aksmaniyak
Yea the leaf blowers were a fail i seen those. But this thing is much larger of a fan.
More in like with a shop floor fan. 18in fan with 2400 cfm output may just move a yak :)
Iam tell ya if i had the budget i give it a shot lol.
Anyways keep up the awesome videos and ideas!
I love yours because like me you truly do diy!
@@NiteWolfeFishing Thanks again! It's funny, I was recently watching something with an airboat and thought...lol
the props need to be more behind the kayak, not along the side. you would notice a dramtic speed and thrust increase. like big boats that have 5outboards, youd never see a motor hanging off the side of the boat.
This was just a fun project to see if it was possible. I made a quick double mount with 2x4's. The props would hit each other if mounted off the stern of a kayak. A big boat has more stern to work with and it is also more of a practical power plant. Take this video for what it was meant to be.
Nice setup. May I know what's your kayak's motor power and the controller's maximum current?
Thank you. The beginning of the video shows the A draw tests.
Cool
Thanks.
Omg I just go the same remote planing to do it on my trolling motor… did you got it working with dual motor setup that help you turn by the speed of the motor instead of Turing the motor with 1 remote? I think I saw it as an function listed on the Amazon listing but cannot find any real instructions how to set it up
The dual Minn Kota uses 2 independent wireless controllers to steer. My other dual Watersnake video uses 1 wireless controller to steer.
I'd like to do this set up on my 10' plastic boat so I can fish from the middle seat
Hello, I may not be knowledgeable enough to build this - but, I will be willing to buy one this summer if you sell this assembled. Thanks
I appreciate the offer but I don't sell anything.
Hey i would really like to do this with my kayak im needing dual trolling motors because i want to use it as a mini tug and push boat if you will. I am building a fishing camp out of a 16’ flat boat and truck camper and want to push it and tow it like a barge just because well I work on the tugboats and want to teach my grandsons how we work but on a smaller scale please any info will be mostly appreciated what type of controller is it how do you convert it over
I have build videos for the entire project.
so you cant control both on one controller? using left for the left motor and right direction for the right motor wont work as a way to steer and use one controller? im so ready to jump into this. awesome video
Thanks! Yes, you can control both motors with one controller. I also did that in my dual Watersnake T24 video.
@@Aksmaniyak oh... your channel is all about it. i just stumbled onto this video and didnt realize there was a way lot more. well... im going to start with video 1 and work my way up. thanks for the videos and reply.
@@djtrunkz313 Thanks! Enjoy and bring plenty of popcorn! My videos aren't exciting but you will get information without all the blaah blahh blahh.😆
I wanna see how you set up the controller
Check out the related videos referenced in the narrative for details.
Try 3.. then 4. I want to see a record breaking mph
You can almost ski behind it😅
No, the prop wash would knock you off the ski!!!😆
To make a dual motor set up useful another component is required. A joystick controller allows for seamless 360º rotation and speed control with the added benefit of the safety of a second motor. If one motor fails the paddle is used as the rudder.
czcams.com/video/iZXgDX8Wrw8/video.html
Yes 13 years ago. That is remarkable tech. Too bad I can´t find anything compatible for small boats... only big boats with electronic controlled engines
Cheers
Have to ask , why
Simply because it was a fun project.