Cliffe Knechtle | Don't We All Experience Moral Absolutes? | Give Me An Answer
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- Give Me An Answer: In this episode Cliffe Knechtle talks to college students about how we should use the minds God gave us to experience Him.
Recorded - Fall 1998 and Fall 2001
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The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
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Man if I had a second to sit down with cliffe for like 10 min I’d enjoy that. He needs to come to atl
My dog’s gonna have to walk himself, new Cliff vid dropped!
The dog processed to watch with you.😂
BRUH'VE REALLY CLOWNING 🤣. Exactly 💯. Moral absolutes do point to a moral Law Giver or Moral Law which humans follow in their own yet similar ways. The difference is that The Apostles claimed to have saw Christ our Lord after having been Resurrected from The Dead after Roman crucifixion and torture. It's cool seeing classic younger Cliffe Knechtle's videos from the 1990's and early 2000's after work. He's exactly right about typical American cultural beliefs and assumptions about God and The Bible because most people really don't believe that God exists it's just a cultural idea that they accept without question because they think it makes them feel special but many Atheists, agnostics and secular humanists are the worst when it comes to asking genuine questions without an agenda of making others doubt and disbelieve. I'm a 24 year old single Christian virgin guy working as a teacher and counselor. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
@@justingary5322 I thought about skipping this because it was too long. But I’m glad I didn’t. Very informative & articulate. Sadly I’m a hyprocite because I know about Jesus & I believe that he’s the true Lord & Savior but I struggle with sin almost every hour of my life. I struggle with turning away from sin but yet I get so passionate talking about Jesus to my friends. It’s no lie when they say “sin is sweet.” It’s so hard to live for the spirit because we constantly want to live for the flesh & do as we please. So keep me in your prayers, so I can make that ultimate commitment of giving my life to Christ & stop living for my flesh. Jesus is King! May God continue to bless you brother. Thank you for taking your time to drop this knowledge 🤝🏾
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Hahaha I listen while walking my dog😂
Is surprising the time travel skills of Cliff to go back to the past and create new classic content.
👍(had to give a second like)
I never had a dad, but boy would I have loved to have had Cliffe as a dad. What an awesome guy and role model and someone to learn from. Although I’m Orthodox and he is Protestant so theologically speaking we would not agree mostly but we do agree on a lot. I’m extremely grateful for Cliffe and how he has spent so many years loving all of us by spending so much of his precious time to teach us about Christ and tear down our silly weak smoke screens we put up to reject God. God bless him and his family forever and God bless you all reading this too! ❤️☦️
What the first lady misses is that Jesus showed himself to many people during His life who still didn’t believe Him.
Demonstrate "objectively" the veracity of your assertion dear.
@@trumpbellend6717 She asked “why doesn’t God show Himself” when she, like most people, wouldn’t believe Him if she saw Him. It happened with Jesus, right? You must know that people often ignore what they don’t want to see. “Trump did zero good during his time in office.” Is that a true claim or people believing what they want despite the truth being readily available?
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BELIEF is NOT *"CHOICE"* or a mere act of volition. Sure someone can pretend to believe anything but the things one actually believe are not something you choose they are an involuntary response to one's level of information and understanding of their environment. You are either convinced or you are unconvinced and its EVIDENCE that convinces.
I could not just make myself believe in pixies no matter how much I closed my eyes and stamped my feet. Anymore than you could right now "choose" to be convinced that God is not real or that the laws of gravity don't apply to you if you step off that cliff.
Tell me could you genuinely "choose" to believe the internet does not exist and we are not having this discourse now ?? I'm talking about being CONVINCED of it bud not just pretending!! Give me an honest answer , could you right now "Choose" to believe in Thor or Zeus ??? 🤔 No of course not, for exactly the same reason I can't choose to believe in Yahweh.
Now if I recieved some irrefutable knowledge or evidence then I would have to deny my own reasoning and senses. That what changes beliefs, not "choice"
If you came home and found your spouse in bed with the neighbour, could you just "CHOOSE" to believe in her fidelity and go back downstairs to make her a nice cup of tea ?? 🤣😅🤣
@@Lorenzo1972.
*_"true"_* and *_"truth"_* are derivatives of the same parent word, but they represent different parts of speech. The word _true_ means something is based on facts, not imagined. _Truth,_ on the other hand, refers to the real facts about something. It's *_"true"_* that the world has believers in many different subjective invisible "Gods" but the *_"truth"_* of said believers beliefs is a different matter 😜
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Please note several of my replies are missing to resolve, exit the video then come back resort the comments to newest then scroll to thread
Within a few years Cliffe is going to have millions of subscribers. Him and Stuart do such an awesome job.
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@@jasonnoble7302you laugh, as they reach above 600k subscribers….
Stuart already has millions on instagram
I Say They Do Love How They Give People Like These People Pointers
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Millions of suckers lol
I love watching cliff explain hard questions so easily and in a way we can all understand, my prayer goes out to those with hardened hearts and those who are lost still searching.. this man is the main reason for me building a personal relationship with God. God bless you all the truth is out there if you seek it with a open mind and heart.. God Bless You All , Love From New Zealand.. South Auckland
Great...Glad that I found someone claiming to follow/understand, and seemingly agree with this position. You should have no problem answering a couple of questions then, as this argument seems to rely on "you can not come up with a senario where X would be morally acceptable regardless of context or consequence" and therefore X must qualify to be "absolutly immoral", and therefore "absolute moralities" exist...
I do not want to misrepresent the argument, so can we agree this seems to be the basics of the claim that because nobody has shown you how X action can qualify as "morally acceptable" then it must qualify as a "moral absolute"?
Since you have a relationship with the creator of the universe, what can you tell us?
I find when I live in sin and hypocrisy my life is terrible, when I commit my life to Jesus I feel free and not as guilty. Man amazing grace that forgives my many sins.
Amen
Thanks cliffe for making my relationship with god even stronger. God bless you
One of my favorite ones yet! God bless you Cliffe Thank you for helping us grow and understanding our faith better every clip you upload !
This man is so fascinating to listen to. He’s answered a lot of questions I’ve had with simple but brilliant explanations. He has helped bring a lot of people closer to God and that is something truly remarkable. God Bless him and everyone reading this.
He doesn't do so well debating grown ups who are experienced debaters like he is. He is good at bullying teenagers. Sad.
I wish I could meet cliffe and Stuart
I mean you can... they invite people to their church in Connecticut all the time at the end of their videos.
@@Freddyfrm18but for some people it's necesssary to move into another country to do this (for example, for me))
Thank you, Cliffe.
Cliffe uploaded😊
That first lady clearly had a bitterness towards God, if you want to receive God’s Grace all you have to do is ask forgiveness and give your life to him and the Holy Spirit will work through you. Many have felt the Holy Spirit and had experiences that defy explanation. We who have Faith in Jesus Christ call these events Miracles.
This is one of the most 90s videos I've ever seen in my life.... 🤣
But I still love it. It seems as though this generation of 2000s college kids is far more capable of communication and listening than the ones we see today. Yoy can actually see the amplitude of social and cultural decay increase from the older sessions until the present day. At least there are Christian kids here and they are willing to listen without making wild accusations, unsubstantiated claims, or constant interruptions.
Lol the irony of Christians talking about _"unsubstantiated claims"_ when they believe our moral status the result of a talking snake convincing a rib woman and mud figurine man to eat a magic fruit against the wishes of an invisible God called Yahweh, is beyond words 🤭😅🤣🤣
2:42 All have the privilege. God helps all who needs proof, according to His plan and purpose.
John 3:16💕
Cliffe Rocks!
I would like to come to your church but i dont live US but i watch at lot of your videos keep it up The Lord Jesus Bless you 🙏🙂
Classic Cliffe? Yes please🙋♂️
Cliff was on fire lol 😆 🔥 😂 🤣
He just yells at people. A grown man yelling.
God shows us all the time. We just need to open our eyes and see the TRUTH FOR WHAT IT SI
10:47 that was a great question. God hates hypocrites. That's the super simple answer
The way he smiles just lets you know he’s ready for anything coming his way and the way they get into a chokehole gets me every time lol
wonderful. very highly respect for videos you uploaded. it help us to understand what is inside other people mind and help people to undestand "real christianity". KEEP THE GOOD WORK BROTHER
God bless you Cliffe
Cliffs never misses a beat and always has scripture ready to back it up
I Love Watching Theses Its Inspirational For Me And Learning Just By Listening To cliff And Stuart
I need some way to contact Cliffe. My boyfriends parents have been in church and returned for a little over 3 years. Years before that, they also went. However, they pursued having church at home, which from what I've read is biblically fine. Again HOWEVER, they have turned to teaching that it is ok to cuss and have used the comparison that "People think it's cursing but cursing is different than cussing" I agree, but that isn't the issue. Cussing is still foul language, un-Godly language, which is sin. My boyfriend and his little sister also have this feeling in their chest, like myself, that can only be described as the Holy Spirit's conviction and grievance. They respect their parents and love their parents, but God is trying to protect them FROM their parents, and He is using me. I prayed for strength and peace, and God brought Cliffe to mind. I would appreciate his Godly opinion and guidance over this.
Testimony: I was the TRUEST of ALL Atheists, I NEVER even thought that such things could even exist! I thought that the entire idea of morality was funny, because I agreed with Religious people that "if you don't believe in a god then you can't and shouldn't believe in morality, because it's a hypocrisy" (naturally I thought this btw, wasn't a conclusion) when I watched the movie "A clockwork orange" the version made by that popular director forget his name, and I couldn't think of any such things that Alex (that being the POV for the viewer, AKA myself) did, and agreed with say the beating and water boarding that was given to him by his old gang members and or *friends* and I just shrugged it off for what I viewed it as, somebody doing *insert verb here* to or for someone else, and then I thought, wait, do I *really* think that no morality? And started to think "Hold on, I might be a bad person" and then there was a long silence (weeks, months year), and then I started to wonder "How did the big bang happen?" and then realized "this doesn't even slightly make sense, it doesn't even explain how the universe came about! It's just saying how it expanded, and I doubt using radiation tracking is good fore the whole idea of radiation is that it's erratic!" and with believe of the fact that the only religion I could've ever thought was true was Christianity because I thought it didn't make sense to work to become god like, because you could NEVER become god or as morally good as a god would be, so that's when I also started to realize that the tree of mine was bearing bad fruit, and that theirs were making good and healthy fruit, and then I started to feel things emotionally when I accepted god, Joy, Guilt, Shame, I had never felt emotions this much! Not once in my ENTIRE life! and god showed himself to me in (possibly) the most obvious way possible he shined light where light didn't shine, he made the clouds align into a church symbol, and he showed himself to me, and I realized Oh my god. I'm going to hell, I'm a HORRIBLE person inside and out! And from the coming days I felt him bless me with the Holy Ghost, though I'm a sinner still, Corinthians 12:9-10 My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness. Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ' power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ' sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong. And with faith in God, and truly believing that he is pulling me towards him I must simply allow him to and the sins are getting less frequent through the power of God. Praise God 🙏
Everytime enlightened by Cliffe words... Beautiful 👌
24:00 oh boy! Someone's wife wasn't too happy later 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The answer is turning to God not only requires that leep of faith that all these people who live in a cardinal fashion of life that is in truth they don't have faith never did know what it is completely clueless but then faith isn't analytical with in all of us the spirit of man coexist simultaneously with God what happens is when this occurs what we do is we move away from God the enemy drives a spiritual wedge between us and God the enemy knows if God and man where to commun with each other then the enemy is done for so he has us react to that message as if it was poison going to kill us
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If there's no God, then morality is not absolute but it's relative.
Tell that to the victims of endless crimes around the world.
Repent.🙏
@@NewCreationInChrist896If there is no God, then morality is relative. Simple
@@NewCreationInChrist896The person you replied to is a believer and said that morality comes from God. You have reading comprehension issues. Only in Christian comments do you find Christians accidentally arguing with each other. I've never seen athiests accidentally argue with each other, you make us Christians look bad.
Science is not just quantitative, it is also. qualitative.
@@CaliberBeats2That isn't true. People argue.
The dude that was sitting in the hat ask his question so humbly. He really ask to listen not to respond.
12:49
John 3:18(AMP)
“Whoever believes and has decided to trust in Him [as personal Savior and Lord] is not judged [for this one, there is no judgment, no rejection, no condemnation]; but the one who does not believe [and has decided to reject Him as personal Savior and Lord] is judged already [that one has been convicted and sentenced], because he has not believed and trusted in the name of the [One and] only begotten Son of God [the One who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, the One who alone can save him]”
Job 3 2
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
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More or less taken from plato
God bless you Cliffe and Stu
I wish I could summon cliff whenever I have an Atheist whos trying to convince me and others in public that Jesus is fake and God isn't real.
Cliff losses all his debates with educated Atheists. They make him look like a fool. But These are kids who are not knowledgeable enough on these topics. So now he looks brilliant.
@@passionfashions3018 educated atheists are usually arguing in bad faith and can almost never live out thier supposed ideals
Hi! As someone from a Soviet culture (now an immigrant in the USA) I believe that the resurrection was staged by the Romans, as explained in a popular book where I'm from - "The Gospel of Afranius"; like many others, I read it in childhood and never thought about this question again - until coming to the USA and noticing a stark contrast in the discussion of this question. What's wrong with that explanation?? I'm confused, what am I missing here?..
My heart goes out to all these kids from campus to campus who are struggling to get to know Christ. Who have been indoctrinated that a big bang created us and that there is no creator.
Girl at the start of the discussion: "Why doesn't God remove all doubt and reveal himself to us so that we could believe?"
She clearly hasn't read the New Testament. Christ revealed himself in bodily form, performed miracles, including physical healings, casting out demons, feeding thousands of people with a few pieces of food, and even raised the dead! Did that quiet his critics and cause them to believe? Nope, it only made them worse! Rather than accept the evidence, they claimed he was using demonic powers.
The point is, someone can give you all the evidence you demand, but you still have to make a choice to believe. Famous atheist Richard Dawkins said, "Even if God showed up right now, before my eyes, with lighting, thunder, and a booming voice that said, 'Here I am'.... I would consider it a hallucination." He refuses to believe even the evidence of his own eyes and ears! God is not obligated to play games with Richard Dawkins or anyone else who demands "proof".
It isn't the evidence that's the problem here. Christianity has presented more than enough evidence to make a decision. The only things that's left is making the decision. If you don't want Christ, fine. But be honest about it. You must have examined ALL the evidence and decided it wasn't good enough.
The evidence it plentiful: what you do with it... that's up to you. No one will be able to stand before God on judgment day and say, "But you never told me!"
I love cliffs debates with the old guy in the glasses in the back.
Man, it has to be so extremely difficult to be an atheist.... I don't know how they do it
Hi! As someone from a Soviet culture (now an immigrant in the USA) I believe that the resurrection was staged by the Romans, as explained in a popular book where I'm from - "The Gospel of Afranius"; like many others, I read it in childhood and never thought about this question again - until coming to the USA and noticing a stark contrast in the discussion of this question. What's wrong with that explanation?? I'm confused, what am I missing here?..
@@valinorean4816 well, considering that Christ appeared to over 400 people after he resurrected and all who have given eyewitness accounts, it's impossible to say that the Romans "staged it"... People will go to any lengths to try to disprove Jesus Christ. The evidence is irrefutable and overwhelming. My whole point is that it must be extremely difficult to believe that nothing created everything. But keep searching, keep asking questions, and read the scriptures. Christ will reveal himself to you! 🙏
@@Nick-fi1mc they staged it with a lookalike actor, obviously? what's wrong with that explanation? you said the evidence is irrefutable, okay, then how do you refute this explanation?
@@valinorean4816 hmm...ok. I've never heard of that book you've mentioned, but I'll trust the Word of God! The Bible is the most sought after book in HISTORY! People are executed for reading it! It's extremely powerful!!!
@@Nick-fi1mc but friend, listen, if it could be stagd then it's not a proof right? So it's not from God and was indeed stagd - because God could give an unstageable proof (e.g. fly with the disciples in the sky like Superman, done, ancient Romans and actors-impersonators can't stage that) - And do you have any explanation for why it's actually wrong? It makes perfect sense to me?.. Like, this kind of stuff actually happens - even the bible mentions how the priests bribd Roman soldiers to spread convenient info about him, why wouldn't Romans themselves do that kind of stuff to boost the popularity of this convenient pacifist preacher and his teaching/sect? And that's to say nothing of the practice of actually staging miracles, like what Heron of Alexandria did? if you want more info, its on wikipedia; how do you know God doesn't forbid all miracles and magic?
To anyone dealing with depression or feeling low, don’t give up on life, no matter what bad things happened in your past, don’t let them define you or control your destiny, you are all important and loved!, there is hope for all of us!
Jesus loves you all ✝️, get to know God through Christ 📖
11:32 fruits of the spirit
Noone believes me when i say i think i saw archangel Michael its so sad because it makes me question if i actually saw him too. Before he came to me and said that he is archangel Michael and he told me hes my guardian angel i didnt know he existed and thats weird to me how could it not be real if i didnt know him before he told me that he is archangel Michael
Seek psychiatric help
@0:39, he wears a chairman Mao hat and a USA tee shirt.
This was such a great episode!
love god love other forever and ever
The devil has deceived these young people wake up and Repent!
Matthew 10 what I speak to you in the darkness speak in the light what I whisper in your ear shout to the house tops for all to hear
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You should go to GA Tech or GA State
although i am an atheist, i really respect this person. he is calm, not judgemental and also not a homophobic annoying fuck (cough cough, realism).
Może moralność to jedno ze zjawisk emergentnych, tzn. odkrywamy w sobie określone reakcje moralne, gdy natura jednego ludzkiego umysłu spotka się z naturą innego ludzkiego umysłu, a to z tej racji, że w każdym człowieku spora część natury jest podobna. Tyle tylko, że w takiej interakcji ujawniają się po prostu określone właściwości, które muszą być takie, a nie inne. Dalej zatem nie wymyślamy moralności, ale ją odkrywamy, co tak czy siak wskazuje na Absolut.
Romans 2 tells us how the believer, the refuser, and those ignorant of Jesus will be judged. Justly.
Numbers 6:24-26,
Deute. 28, Joshua 1:7-8
Psalms 24,
Haggai 2:8,
Psalms 139,
Daniel 3:25,
Matthew 4:23-24,
Matthew 6:9-15 & 12:31-32
Matthew 17:1-5,
Matthew 28:18,
Romans 1:18-32,
Romans 10:9-13,
Revelation 1:18,
Revelation 19,
Revelation 20:10-15,
Revelation 21:8,
AMEN 🙏 ❤️. Moral absolutes do point to a moral Law Giver or Moral Law which humans follow in their own yet similar ways. The difference is that The Apostles claimed to have saw Christ our Lord after having been Resurrected from The Dead after Roman crucifixion and torture. It's cool seeing classic younger Cliffe Knechtle's videos from the 1990's and early 2000's after work. He's exactly right about typical American cultural beliefs and assumptions about God and The Bible because most people really don't believe that God exists it's just a cultural idea that they accept without question because they think it makes them feel special but many Atheists, agnostics and secular humanists are the worst when it comes to asking genuine questions without an agenda of making others doubt and disbelieve. I'm a 24 year old single Christian virgin guy working as a teacher and counselor. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
And a commenter was right, he is going after young adults for a reason.
If god revealed himself rn then everyone will believe only because they have proof and know not because of honest faith
Exactly 💯. Moral absolutes do point to a moral Law Giver or Moral Law which humans follow in their own yet similar ways. The difference is that The Apostles claimed to have saw Christ our Lord after having been Resurrected from The Dead after Roman crucifixion and torture. It's cool seeing classic younger Cliffe Knechtle's videos from the 1990's and early 2000's after work. He's exactly right about typical American cultural beliefs and assumptions about God and The Bible because most people really don't believe that God exists it's just a cultural idea that they accept without question because they think it makes them feel special but many Atheists, agnostics and secular humanists are the worst when it comes to asking genuine questions without an agenda of making others doubt and disbelieve. I'm a 24 year old single Christian virgin guy working as a teacher and counselor. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
TLDNR
@@trumpbellend6717 lol
If it’s not before us, it’s not an established PREcept, as in before
Just curious is this video filmed back in the early 2000’s ? Or late 90’s for the background and dress codes from todays society ??
God made us to walk my faith not by know In reference to Jesus being the way the truth and the life based upon historical knowledge.
The truth that God is He's placed in every human heart. That's why no one will have an excuse even if you don't know about Christ you know God is. And for those that never hear about Christ they'll be judged based upon whatever light they had about God.
The heart is a muscular pump to circulate the blood. That's all.
✡️Romans 1:20
“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”
@@briarpatchson3039yes exactly
@@mirandahotspring4019so when someone tells me to "take heart".... what do I do?
Please advise!
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@@blaaaksheephomestead They could be talking about dietary advice, so go to the supermarket and buy a few sheep's hearts. They're quite nice stuffed with traditional poultry style stuffing and roasted.
To the first lady,
Mathew 12:38 - 40 'Then some of the scribes and Pharisees told Jesus, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” But he replied to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves a sign. Yet no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah, because just as Jonah was in the stomach of the sea creature for three days and three nights, so the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights'
The point Jesus is making here is more signs don't matter to someone who hasn't or isn't willing to acknowledge or consider their own wrong doings. It would be similar to doing wrong by someone, them forgiving you, then you not accepting that forgiveness because you don't believe you have done something wrong to them. So no other sign matters to that person you have wronged other than them reminding you of your wrong doing and that they have forgiven you in hopes that you come to consider the possibility that you have actually wronged them. Asking the person you have wronged to give you any other sign is meaningless and flirting with arrogance.
17:51
The problem with his line of reasoning, is 0% of trees have his material composition, and 0% of human beings have the material composition of any tree. Nor could they, not even hypothetically, not even if we had scientific advancements from a million years in the future - it's one of those, internally consistent / logically impossible things.
I don't think we are JUST _"matter and energy"_ dear. The evidence indicates we are extrodinary, the product of billions of years of years of evolution, success and failure triumph and disaster. We have a brain that enables consciousness, abstract thought, imagination and possess the ability to reason and empathise with others.
We are sentient self aware pain and emotion feeling individuals capable of love or hate, incredible acts of altruism or depravity. It's how we navigate through life and these potential extremes that define us, not our belief ( or lack of ) in anyone's "God"
Our aformentioned consciousness that gives us the ability to reason and gives rise to concepts like morality and beauty is an emergent property from the electro chemical interactions of billions of neurons within a physical brain, the scientific evidence tells us, its as simple as that. If logical reasoning is not the result of chemical interactions then why can alcohol or other chemicals inhibit or enhance our ability to reason logically ??? 🤔🙄
If you want to claim that such interactions are incapable of creating metaphysical concepts like morality, beauty, altruism, reciprocity, love, equality ect and that they can only arise as the result as a result of "creation" from your "God" then one also has to believe that concepts like ugliness, hatred, immorality, jealousy, racism, evil, bigotry, depravity, must also have arisen as the result of said God's "creation" 🙄
Regardless, I fail to see the relevance of any arguments from incredulity or ignorance in a discourse about morality. If i were unable to answer as above the default alternative is NOT "God did it" let alone any specific "God" How does one get from _"science can't explain blah blah"_ to ...... _"therefore Yahweh did it and so its moral to "unalive" anyone who chooses the wrong day of the week to gather his sticks"_ ??
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That's okay dear you go back to your colouring book, it's probably best if you leave these discussions to the adults. 👋🖐👋
@@trumpbellend6717 you're very intelligent, or so you come across, yet lack basic comprehension "dear" 🤣
@@blaaaksheephomestead
Lol the very minimum requirement with regards to "basic comprehension" would be actually reading the text dear. Something you were unable to do apparently ( _"TLDNR"_ ) 🤭😅🤣
What is the list of moral absolutes or objective morals that can only come from a god?
There aren't any!
How many moral values/ duties do you need for the claim that objective moral values and duties do, in fact, exist?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 be nice if the Bible told us what these objective moral values are Jeff. There's a lot of talk in the States at the moment about the need for the 10 commandments to be placed in schools. Half of those pronouncements have nothing to do with moral values, and even the one's that do aren't objective. eg: I can think of lots of situations whereby lying would be the more moral option.
My boi has a lot of friends
My thoughts are that people don't want to believe because they don't want to be held accountable for their sins
Lol hilarious 🤣 😂 What does "justice" actually mean to you my friend ? 🤔 You see for me justice is all about "fairness", responsibility, equality, accountability, and consequences all of which can be negated under Christian soteriology by one's acceptance or rejection of extraordinary supernatural claims and a willingness to pass the buck.
*John 5 24*
_“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and _*_"BELIEVES"_*_ in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and _*_SHALL NOT COME INTO JUDGMENT,_*_ but has passed from death into life"_
Our societal conception of "justice" in in direct conflict with the *unequal punishment* based on the accused "beliefs" ( something they have no more control over than the colour of their skin at birth ) prescribed by Christian theology. Moral properties such as responsibility are supervenient on actions and attributes of moral agents, and cannot be transferred between them. As such vicarious redemption ( *scapegoating* ) could never and should never be regarded as either logical or moral.
The idea of sin, or morality however you define it, being a tradeable commodity is at odds with how I define morality. Particularly when it involves the suffering of an innocent. I am responsible for my good and bad actions, people can't 'take' my bad deeds any more than they can my good nor should they.
How telling that if Christian soteriology is correct the most important factor that differentiates those deserving eternal paradise and those deserving eternal torment is the geographical location one is born into.
If one is born in Saudi Arabia there is about a 95% chance that you will belive in the "wrong" God and reject jesus and thus receive eternal damnation in a lake of fire. However be born into America and magically there is about a 95% chance that you will believe in the "right" God and thus receive eternal salvation. 👏👏
Allegedly this is the justice of a perfect omnibenevolent omnipotent omniscient loving God. The fact that many people who reject jesus often lead devout pious lives and follow very strict and demanding religious practices with regards to worship, diet, clothing and relationships is not a factor, these people seemingly reject jesus because they *"want to sin"* 🤔🤫 Some live lives of isolation and quiet contemplation taking vows of celibacy and silence but the loving jesus still deems these people unworthy of anything other than eternal torment.
Conversely however a murderer so long as he truly repents and accepts Jesus on his death bed he can spend an eternity in paradise with those he murdered. Unless of course those people also found the "evidence" for your God unconvincing, in which case the murderer would be looking down from paradise on the people he killed as they too suffered for eternity with me 😡
@@trumpbellend6717i pray you may find peace and that God would heal your heart In Jesus name brother
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Lol instead of "praying" why don't you try and actually address the content of my comment dear ?? How quickly 1st Peter 3 :15 goes out the window when Christians are faced with basic questions 🙄
The next time you see something interesting. Ask yourself, “ can the thing I just witnessed be anything but divine plausibility”?
If morality was relative, then we could scrap it.
Early
"its so unfair that everyone else had this privilege" privilege?? The privilege to be brutally murdered by romans for standing your ground professing that christ is king???
Makes sense. Id want that too 👑✝️
Exactly 💯. The difference between them and is living today is that The Apostles claimed to have saw Christ our Lord after having been Resurrected from The Dead after Roman crucifixion and torture. It's cool seeing classic younger Cliffe Knechtle's videos from the 1990's and early 2000's after work. He's exactly right about typical American cultural beliefs and assumptions about God and The Bible because most people really don't believe that God exists it's just a cultural idea that they accept without question because they think it makes them feel special but many Atheists, agnostics and secular humanists are the worst when it comes to asking genuine questions without an agenda of making others doubt and disbelieve. I'm a 24 year old single Christian virgin guy working as a teacher and counselor. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
@@justingary5322this is not sarcasm nor is ir judgy, but could you give a more precise and clear explanation of your points? i am an atheist as i personally find the idea of a deity ridiculous. this is because of the fact that for a deity to come into existence, a major event must occur. now of course nothing is ever absolute or impossible but a deity with a consciousness seems a lot less likely compared to an explosion of particles that were previously endlessly floating in the universe. although the odds were near impossible, i feel that the theory of the big bang makes the most sense. and from what i could understand, a part of ur argument states that the theory of evolution is ridiculous. how? creatures of olden times evolved and adapted to their conditions. current human bodies also do evolve (for example, younger children are more likely to get glasses because the human eyes have adapted to screens resulting in them kind of prioritising near sighted-ness.)
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That lady asking complains as well coz of the "lack of evidence" but when presented with evidence she wants to right away dismiss them. 😂
I don’t believe it’s just that God creates and defines these moral absolutes. I believe (contrary to the euthyphro dilemma) that God commands things because they are right and that things are right because God commands it. You can’t have one without the other.
If people say something is right only because someone commands it, then that “right” is actually subjective, because if a mind can determine what right and wrong is, it is relative.
And if the person commands it because it is right. That shows that moral absolutes are above that person.
Because God is at the pinnacle of everything, it makes more sense for moral absolutes to be apart of his essence or something metaphysical of him. So moral absolutes are both “because God commands it” and “because it is right or wrong”.
No such thing as a moral absolute. Morals are subjective and change/have change over time.
If enough of society agrees that enslaving people is moral, does that make it moral? How moral is it to the whipped slave? How moral is it to the raped child if society agrees pedophilia is moral?
There are moral absolutes. Morality never changes.
Response to the question do you think that Gandhi went to hell?
According to the word of God, no one goes to Heaven or Hell at death.
Genesis 2:7 (KJV)
7. And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 3:19 (KJV)
19. In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
So when DO people go to heaven or hell and which would Ghandi eventually end up in dear ?? 🤔
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there are a few places/area where gandhi would end up
gandhi would suffer in an endless void lacking all conscience and personality.
in heaven (due to him playing a major role in the independence of India)
in hell (due to his racism)
roaming earth as a spirit who cant interact with the physical world
😂😂😂 yeah with your logic gandhi will burn in hell and hitler will go to heaven because he believes in jesus @@kdxdeadman
Cliffe is a university.
No, he's just a ranting evangelist.
@@mirandahotspring4019
THAT'S TRYING TO SAVE YOU FOR HELL-FIRE 🔥
@@briarpatchson3039 Have a little respect for your fellow evolved ape Cliffe.
I'm sure your really meant "Who's trying..." and not, "That's trying..."
He is a who, not a that after all.
But bad grammar aside, there's no hellfire to save anyone from, that's just the stick of the carrot and stick of Christianity, a way to try and control gullible people. Be good and get a place in heaven, be bad and go to hell. Silly ancient promises and threats to coerce people to do what the church wanted them to do. Mind control and brainwashing!
when jacob married rachael hes thinking about the other partner he had to take lol
Can I ask a question?
Can i ask ? Is it okay for Christians to pierce ?
Depends where you pierce and for what reason; glorifying the body, decorating it for an idol (signs and symbols), focusing on/worshiping it like an idol, identifying with it... etc may indicate that you place your body/self or something else, above your God in priority. Sure there is Leviticus and tatoos (idol worship) and cutting (funeral mourning practise) = that law was likely intended to discourage pagan practices and ensure the Israelites were separate from the others. We now have Christ = suggest care is taken in selection of location and jewelry type - Christians are representatives for Christ.
God's ways are way above man's ways! God gives everyone a choice and I'm so thankful that he sent his to die for my Sins! Christ chose to die huh? Because with out him we were headed to Hell
Do the same logical rules that apply to the moral relativist also apply to the subjective Scriptural interpreter? The worldview of the moral relativist has no objective standard of morality, but neither does the paradigm of subjective Scriptural interpretation. So, in the same way that the opposite view of the moral relativist is equally valid, wouldn't the opposite of one's subjective interpretation of Scriptural (say in regards to morals, salvation, etc.) be equally valid as well?
have you ever met a moral relativist who insists that "you're not right, I'm not wrong, it's all relative" ? I think this person only exists in Cliffe's mind.
I've met tons. They even questioned that whether gravity is truth because there are no multiple interpretations to that definite answer.
@@blessedarethepeacemakers7952 Are there any well known moral relativists that you know of who think "your not right, I'm not wrong, its all relative"?
I'm a Christian and my question was a serious one.
@@brotherdamien1804 who are these moral relativists you're referring to damien?
Sin cannot exist in Heaven for God is good…walking away from sin with the Christ is the only way to everlasting life.
Bonnie is going to show up and insist on not understanding a single word in the video that does not comport with his own "opinions"... Even while he claims that morality is simply a matter of opinion... in his opinion... AND claiming that some things are in fact... (Wait for it!!) ... WRONG! [face-palm] See Proverbs 26:12 and 29:9, etc.!
@9:33, "Muslims said Jesus spoke the truth", how could he speak the truth, Jesus said he rose from the dead and that He and the Father were One. Muslims say this is a lie so how can a lying prophet be used by Muslims as a teacher from God?
Now are these vids in 2024 or in the past?
1998-2001
15:52 if there is no god, everything is permissible
You present the false dichotomy that without YOUR SPECIFIC SUBJECTIVE GOD there can be no moral reference standard and all things somehow become permissable ( shakes head in disgust 🤬 ) this is not only false its *DEMONSTRABLY FALSE*
Can you name me some countries or societies that regard murder, "gr4pe" theft, as moral and legal actions ??? No of course not, but why ? for according to your reasoning those societies that do not adhere to YOUR GODS moral dictates ( other religions, and the atheistic, secular ect ) should be examples of depravity and lawlessness, yet this is plainly NOT the case and It would be a demonstration of hubris to assert otherwise.
You do know that there have been many studies to assess the religiosity of societies in comparison with their number of murders, "gr4pes", abortion, D use, single parents, even wealth and health don't you ? 🤔
America dispite being one of the most christian countries in the world has the HIGHEST prison population rate per capita anywhere in the world 🤔🤔🤔 It also has amongst the worst results in many of the above categories.
Yet those we regard as the most atheistic secular ( the Scandinavian, Sweden ect) score much much better and are amongst the best in those same categories. Hmmm.🤔🤔🤔
For example one of many ........
*"Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies"*
There are those who don’t believe in God who don’t believe this so what is he even talking about? It’s not like God comes down and actually rule for all to see.
Cliff is off the rails insane. My question is, was he coached by a parent to be this crazy? Because that's child abuse.
Check out him losing his mind with Matthew, about Matthew, in Modern Day Debates.
Cliffe had no way of knowing if he is experiencing moral absolutes. How does he know those aren't just his subjective moral feelings?
If we assume that your worldview is true (although you have no way of knowing if it is and no good reasons to believe it is or could be or that it would matter if it were true)-there are no moral absolutes and ultimately nothing matters. Okay, so what?
@jessebryant9233 so do you have a way to determine that there are moral absolutes? Or just your subjective feelings?
@@spooky6902 So you're agreeing with my assessment than and admitting that given your own worldview, there isn't anything wrong with anything ever-it's all just subjective feelings and preferences. Correct? Sadly, just as Cliffe stated, you don't live your life as if that is actually true. You live in a constant state of contradiction.
@jessebryant9233 I've already explained to you why it's not a contradiction to act based on subjective feelings. Remember fire. OUCH. Don't touch fire. Why are you evading the question?
@@spooky6902 So anyone can act on any subjective feeling they like-and nobody is ever wrong then?
15:17 Mahatma Gandhi was a sinner who needed a savior, if he rejected the gospel of Jesus Christ within his lifetime, he went to hell.
Revelation 21:8
“But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
but isnt that so cruel? a man who played a major role in the independence of a whole nation. saving potentially billions of lives and more to come, goes to hell because he didnt believe christ?
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Keyword potentially, he wasn’t God. No man is greater than Jesus Christ.
Psalms 118:8
“It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man”
“But the natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he is not able to understand them, because spiritually they are discerned”
(1 Corinthians 2:14)
@@NewCreationInChrist896 u didnt answer me or my question. quoting the bible with no other argument is stupid.
The problem Cliffe has when saying that there are moral absolutes, if he's talking about things we would regard as despicable acts, the slaughter of innocents for example, there are plenty of instances in the Bible where God appears to carry out such things against innocents, yet because God commands it, it then becomes ok. Divine command.
As you said, the Chrstn will come up with the excuse: that's perfectly fine because Yahweh can do whatever he wants.
Cliffe says slavery is absolutely immoral, but it took man to do what Yahweh failed to do, by making slavery immoral.
@@jackalsgate1146God made man. He doesn’t require man o do anything. It’s man that requires God for ALL THINGS. Don’t be foolish. Get off your ridiculous arrogance.
@@BattyboyktYour god condoned slavery.
@@jackalsgate1146YAWEH never said Slavery was good.
@@joshuasalazar4316
Once again . . . it took man to make slavery immoral, not Yahweh.
• It is man who decides what is moral and immoral.
• Man labels all things.
• Man gives names to all things.
• Man critiques all things.
• Man researches all things.
• Man contemplates all things.
• Man reasons upon all things.
• Man is the epitome of all living things.
What kind of God sends someone for a horrible bloodshed to save those who sinned, rather than holding sinners accountable. That’s like me punishing one child for what my other children did wrong, then forgiving the other children as long as they believe the one child was punished for them. So God gives out free passes in exchange for you to believe this unjust, horrid and immoral act. Who pays someone to believe something? Furthemore, what loving parent would do such a thing? This seems very suspicious, nonsensical and wrong on so many levels.
God doesn't send anyone to hell sister we choose to that path when we reject him and the salvation he's given us of being with
Would you lay down your life for your children?
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The only, and I mean this, the ONLY person who can truly live out moral relativism is the Sociopath
Come to india 🇮🇳
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God
I see so many of these debates on the Internet but yet a simple explanation is that God is real but so is satan and God wants us to have that relationship with him but satan is trying his best to keep us away from god.ultimately it comes down to choice
@@adamdonald9609 As a Christian, I totally agree with that statement. However, it wouldn’t be a sufficient argument for many atheists. If they deny God, they deny the devil and his works, so why believe that such a being is blinding them.
If so, then YOU JUST WITNESSED A SIGN….
To the question of the friend who has faith in Christ that he will save him though he knows what the right things to do but chooses things okay to do what he knows it is wrong.
James 4:17 (KJV)
17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
James 4:17 (KJV)
17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Romans 6:11-16 (KJV)
11. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Why is Jesus the one?
Because Jesus Christ is the only way that the separation between humans and God has been resolved.
Romans 5:1_4 therefore having been justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ the one we also have access by faith into this grace in which we stand rejoice in Hope of the glory of God and not only that but we also glory and tribulations knowing the tribulation produces perseverance and preservance character and character hope
Job 2 3
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
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The only people who need Jesus are sinners.
Cliff so often speaks down to people. He may be right about some things. But he could speak in a much more loving gentle caring tone.
He is escalated almost always with irritable tone.
Bible says love is not irritable. Love is not proud rude or arrogant. He has harsh tone loud impatient scolding condescending.
This is not love thy neighbor which he preaches which was 1 of 2 commandments by Jesus. I wouldn't want to be spoken to the way he speaks.