As a Finn, I find it endlessly interesting how under-appreciated we have been as people through out history- and yet, we host some of the most amazing things on this planet. Many great men have been almost obsessed with us. There has to be something there.
My forefather was the greatest kantele player in Finland. He was professor of music and had two radio shows while he teach music in university. Hitler himself invited him to play kantele in opening ceremony of Nazi Olympics in 1936. Some people in my family are ashamed of this, but I am proud. He was extremely talented.
@@IrishinFinland Ouh... Now I'm giving away who I am, my family tree. Here is link to Wikipedia: fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eino_Tulikari This article is very poor and imperfect. Nazi things are almost all wiped out. He also recorded his music, I have his vinyl. In Jyväskylä UNI there still are big hall called Tulikari sali. There is a book about him and his brothers life called Musiikkia Perhonjokilaaksosta. It's about musicians of that area. He could play kantele that was hanging on the wall or between his legs. His family made all kind of tricks just to annoy neighbours by showing their dominance in music skills XD
Also I feel like I need to say this: if you move to Finland, do not try to compare our culture and habits to any other country. You will not see us as we truly are. A good example of this is how our habit of showing respect by giving space and being silent is seen as rude. Lacking manners. In reality, it was an honest attempt of getting along.
If you're interested in this kind of historical content, and you can understand Finnish well enough, there's a Finnish youtube channel called Myytinkertojat, there's a two part series on Finnish history that's not usually told in the history books, not saying that it's 100% true but it offers a fascinating depending on your point of view a what if or alternative view on Finnish history, sorta ties in with this video due to it mostly being about Finns being more or less rulers of the north. Personally I'm slightly skeptical on the position depicted in those videos but who knows, it could be true
Then some nazis did not think Finns were 'pure Aryan' and worth less than for instance the Swedes. People think that nazis had a worldview cut in stone, but there was certainly a lot of infighting and different beliefs. Many of the highest leaders in the nazi command believed very much in astronomy and were very keen to study the stars to know when and where to attack. Many believed it was quackery and/or going against their religious beliefs. Much of the nazi leadership was into some strange occultism and were indeed obsessed with things such as finding tons of old artifacts such as the holy grail, spear of destiny, and tons more. That could make an interesting video. Were there any artifacts they were searching for that they believed were in Finland and what did they think they could do with them?
The german theories that finnic and germanic peoples have common ancestry might be partially true. People found in ancient tombs of germany resembe genetically more modern finns and estonians than modern germans. And proto germanic, latvian and finnish are very similar. Maby balts, Finns and germanic peoples have common ancestry after all.
1/3 of Finns are carriers of the Y-DNA haplogroup I1 which is inherited from proto-Germanic hunter gatherers. They were most likely the first ancient population to settle in Finland.
@@Isarnan Germanic tribes like goths settled into western finland during migration period and they mingled with the kvens and became western finns. West finns are half germanic and half finnic. Kvens and karelians were the original inhabitans of finland. Even 2/3 of sweden was originally finnish and part of ancient land called kvenland.
@@Isarnan I've read that rather than being proto-Germanic, the I1 in Finland, which forms it's own somewhat unique branch most commonly found in Finns and the Sami and not Scandinavians as much, came from a pre-Germanic population that migrated/fled first north into Lapland and then south into Finland itself. The Finnish I1 is also found all over the country, even in regions where Germanic Y-DNA is otherwise nonexistent, while the I1 more similar to Scandinavians is found in the west and in areas where the Swedish settled and such. "Of the 28% of I1 in Finland, 65% belong to the exclusively Finnish L287 (downstream of L22) and particularly its L258 subclade. A few percents more belong to other subclades that are also specifically Finnish (e.g. L300). The rest (5-10%) generally resemble more closely Swedish I1. The Swedish-like subclades are unsurprisingly found primarily on the west and south-west coast of Finland, where Swedes have settled in historical times and where Swedish is still spoken. This is also where most of the R1b (3.5%) and Scandinavian R1a-Z282 (3%) is to be found. The Scandinavian I1 in Finland is found at a similar proportion to R1b and R1a as in Sweden. In contrast, Finnish I1 is found in all the country, where hardly any Germanic Y-DNA is present, strongly hints that these specifically Finnish branches of I1 are of pre-Germanic origin. Finland is the only country with more than 15% of I1 where the Germanic culture and language didn't take root. A good reason for this would indeed be if Germanic culture did not yet exist in Scandinavia at the time when I1 reached Finland. Germanic culture is supposed to have been progressively formed during the Nordic Bronze Age, maturing by the start of the Iron Age around 500 BCE. If only a small group of I1 men spread their Y-chromosomal lineages among the last Mesolithic Fennoscandians, with little or no maternal contribution from the Battle-Axe culture, then their language would most probably have been lost too, as that small number of I1 men joined the northern tribes and adopted their language." This from the Eupedia entry on the I1 haplogroup.
Thank you for this video! A previously unknown perspective for me on the relationship between Finland and Germany in the second world war. Very much appreciated!
I'm a karelian. My aunties whom some was witches, made often house spells to protect from evil spirits. My aunties told stories, that no book has been written. We still believes in orally traditions. Here what my aunties told me. If its sounded racist, but remember these stories was over thousand years ago. During the Ice Age, there was two tribes in ancient Karelia. One had a darker skin and the other had a lighter skin. Both tribes lived in peace and they decided to travel up north for better hunting grounds. Then one day, the two tribes started arguing each other. Both tribes went separate ways. The dark skin tribe travelled from Lapland over to Canada and they became the Native Americans. The light skin tribe stayed in Lapland and they became the Sami.
I would love more information on this. Do you happen to know the names of the tribes? Or any clues? This story reminds me of another ancient story in the Oera Linda book. The ancient one wralda and his three daughters.
Can you make video about kvenland or old kainuu. Kaland of finland proper, ostrobothnia, torne valley, Finnmark/Ruija and nortern sweden belonged to it. In old texts ancient finland was called "finland and kvenland". Finland=Finland proper, satakunta, savonia and tavastland. Karelia=All of karelia. Bjarmaland=shores of the white sea and kola peninsula.
I have allways felt like we are brothers to the Germans , i dont even know why , i noticed that when i started watching hockey , i was allways hoping that the Germans doing well in the tournaments 😂😂😂😂🤣
Similar in appearance, perhaps, but Finns and Germans are still not genetically that close to each other, and the claim that they would have the same forefathers is absurd.
@@vasara2385 Do you know that Finland has got percentually most blue eyed, blond haired, white complexion ppl in the world. Watch the video "Which country has the most blondies." The answer is Finland.
@@diamondsarenotforever8542 Yeah, you have been spamming that comment for 3-4 years now… Also, what is your point? Are you saying that Finns can’t be blonde and blue-eyed without being closely related to Germans?
@@diamondsarenotforever8542 but many of us are dark haired like my family me my father and my cousin had blonde hair only when we was like 4 years old after that our hair color was damn near black yes many does have blue eyes but we have like a mixture of light grey green and blue and we come from karelia.what you said is very true but take this as an example this might happen to all of us finns🤷🏻♂️ I can honesly say like 89% are just dark haired
Fun fact: There are still some old Gothic loanwords used in Finnish. For example, the Finnish word "kuningas" (a king), is "kuningaz" in Gothic. Also "äiti" (a mother) is from the old Gothic language which was used by the East-Germanic tribes in 3rd-10th century
Finland has a lot of great Comics about the ancient times and mythology. I rented a book called Pakanat by Tuomas Myllylä, it's really cool, lots of Perkele and Sisu, I RECCOMEND IT HIGHLY!!
Indeed. When I visited the national Museum of Denmark in Copenhagen there was an viking exhibition. So you could take a Look of a lot of iron age stuff from Northern Europe. I remember on sword, a so called ULBERTH sword, which is highly assoiciated with the rich viking society. As I read the Information I saw that the sword was found in Finland. It’s funny because the debate wether Finns were vikings or not gets allways silenced by Scandinavians. But if it comes to archelogical evidence you would use finnish stuff to prove your own viking heritage. Kind of paradox. I think there are a lot of findings in swedish museums which are from Finland originally. There is evidence of grave robbing from Swedish archelogists in Finland as it was still part of the Swedish Empire.
It has been proven by geneaology that Germans and Finns have very little in common, the fact that Germans are Indo-European people who migrated from Africa, through the middle-earth straight to Europe, and that Finns who belonged to the Uralic peoples migrated from Africa through the middle-east and then into Siberia/Asia and then went west to Finland, proves that they are very different, perhaps Himmler meant we all had the same fathers in Africa, but even that he would never say to anyone else.
Roman dignitires remarked at how civilised and anti-degeneracy the western barbarians were. Interestingly, wherever they had political and cultural dominance all forms of degeneracy were outlawed and soon abated.
Nazis were bit screwed in their minds, they ate hallusinogens, had "court witches" etc. and were actively trying to find all sorts of mythological items as they believed them to be true and help to build their 1000 years empire.
Many people are blinded by extreme Indo-europeanism, but they forget that greeks got their culture and civilization from minoans who were non-indo european. Etruscans who heavily influenced roman civilization were also non-indo european. Sumerians were also non-indo european. Also germanic peoples and finnic peoples have a connection: west finns aka Tavastians. West finns are former germanic tribes who settled western finland during migration period. Over time they mingled with kvens and karelians and became west finns. Goths did not die out, they were assimilated into west finns and swedes long ago. Gotland, Göta of sweden and south-western finland were settled by goths. It is said that mythical Fornjotr kings of Finland and Kvenland were at least partially of gothic origin. Also the theories that finns are mongols are completely absurd. Finns do not even look like asians. In fact, finland is the most blonde and blue eyed nation in the entire fucking world. Dark haired and brown eyed people are in marginal. Also according to genetic studies populations with most of blue, green and grey eyed people in the world are located not in scandinavia but in north-eastern baltic sea where finnic peoples live to this day. All of scandinavia exept danmark and scania was finnish before migration periods. Populated by the kvens. Also corpses of bronze and iron age tombs of northern central europe resemble genetically more modern day finns and estonians than the modern population of those territories. Finnish language has nothing to do with mongols or siberia. Finnish is oldest language of europe and one of the oldest languages in the world. Aslo FUTHARK runic writings written in finnish have been found from bjarmaland or shores of the white sea. In one such text there is drawings of people hunting and farming and it reads "Sen Ihmiset Tekevi" or "What Humans Do". Also many finnic birchbark letters written in runes have been excavated mainly from russia but also from the city of turku in western finland what was btw finnish city before swedes took it in mid 13th century. Arabian carthographer Al-Idris wrote in 12th century that Aboa(turku) is finnish city and that king of finland owns land in norway(finnmark). Finns were not primitive savages like official history wants you to believe. Finnic peoples wrote with futhark runes but they did not have runestones like germanic peoples had. Finns also used runic calendars and runic was main writing system of the finns all the way to the 18th century. So few of the runic writings have survived because wood gets destroyed easily. In bjarmaland there are ruins of advanced stone structures and corpses of the bjarmian tombs are all haplogroup N1c. Also hundreds of viking age swords have been excavated from finland and only norway has more swords. Tombs are full of high quality jewellery and even luxury products from the far east. How on earth official history explains that finns were forest people while all the riches and advanced stuff are found from finnic tombs and ruins. Mongols were archenemies of the finnic peoples. They have nothing to do with finns. Mongols waged war against finnic peoples of volga and played part in the destruction of greatest and richest finnic realm Bjarmaland in 13th century with their attacks. Saying that mongols and finns are the same is same thing that saying "greeks and turks are the same". Samojeds have nothing to do with finnic peoples so do not say that finns are mongols because samojeds look like asians. Also if N1c haplo is mongolid in your opinion then founder of the kievan rus varangian price and viking king Rurik must be mongol then right? Think all this before accusing finns to be mongols!
I'm not educated in these matters but I guess that 3000-4000 years ago some Indo-Europeans switched their language to Finno-Ugric, maybe it was assimilation because of trade or something like that.
Viipuri, fourth largest city at that time, a town? Shame on you! 🙂 More seriously, an extremely interesting video with a lot of things that I knew absolutely nothing about. Thus, thank you! Btw, which troops are they inspecting at 7:20? The helmets are absolutely not German/Finnish, they look more Russian really.
@@IrishinFinland Well, probably not POWs - they wouldn't be fighting very much for Germany. Could it be a regiment of Waffen SS from one of the Eastern European countries like Romania, Hungary or Bulgaria?
I recall reading, great many years ago, in the deep, murky bowels of the net that the Swedish racial studies denigrated Finns as lesser people, and since the German and Swedish far right had close ties, the Germans would have listened to these theories. This would have affected the Germans so that they had nothing against handing Finland over to the Soviets in the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. On the other hand, such thoughts probably weren't that significant in Sweden, which had relatively good relations with Finland due to the historical connection and the importance of the Swedish speaking Finns in Finland. Nevertheless, it's strange how many lunatics the Nazi party had within its core.
Well just look at Trump and his core. Perhaps it's not that strange. Herman Göring the WWI fighter pilot ace spent time in Sweden as a pilot flying mail for the post office. He also married a Swedish woman, Carin. I think a Viking heritage was a lot more appealing to the Nazi.
@@hurri7720 vikings were not an ethnicity. Viking does not equal skandinavian. Even finns, estonians, curonians and celts were part of viking raids. Finns of kvenland had big part to play in eastern route and even the original name of kiev was kvenugard(fortress of the kvens). And in the documents of east roman varangian guard there are finnish names. And hundreds of viking age swords have been excavated from ancient finnish tombs. Only norway has more swords than finland. And highest amount of ulfberth and ingelrii swords in the entire world have been found from finland. Maby you should abandon those swedish 19th century lies that finnic peoples are "mongols from urals" and look what ancient documents and latest international studies tell about finland and the finns. Also the uralic theory has been completely wreked by newest genetic studies and archeology but the svekoman elites of finland will still teach uralic theory to our kids in schools as a fact for political reasons.
@@Aldanil , the language with which the Vikings enriched the "English" language was the Scandinavian language. How the Vikings Changed the English Language czcams.com/video/9ZV1BOcGiV0/video.html But like now people mixed and trawelled then too and I have no doubt also Finns and others took part. Still I find it a bit funny how Russians in Vyborg today play on that Viking heritage. But I think the Wikipedia has it properly regarding Vikings here: "Vikings[a] is the modern name given to seafaring people originally from Scandinavia (present-day Denmark, Norway and Sweden),[3][4][5][6] who from the late 8th to the late 11th centuries raided, pirated, traded and settled throughout parts of Europe.[7][8][9] They also voyaged as far as the Mediterranean, North Africa, Volga Bulgaria, the Middle East, and North America. In some of the countries they raided and settled in, this period is popularly known as the Viking Age, and the term "Viking" also commonly includes the inhabitants of the Scandinavian homelands as a collective whole. The Vikings had a profound impact on the early medieval history of Scandinavia, the British Isles, France, Estonia, and Kievan Rus." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings And in Finnish here: "Viikingit olivat pääasiassa skandinaavista alkuperää olevia aseistautuneita merenkulkijoita 700-1000-luvuilla.[1][2] Näitä sotureita ja kaukopurjehtijoita lähti Norjasta, Ruotsista ja Tanskasta etsimään kultaa, hopeaa ja uutta maata. He ryöstelivät ympäri Eurooppaa, ottivat itselleen orjia ja matkasivat Bagdadiin ja Amerikkaan asti. Heillä oli tarunomainen maine nopeista ja rohkeista hyökkäyksistään joista munkit kirjoittivat muistiin kauhukertomuksia luostarien ja kaupunkien ryöstöistä. Pelkkiä raakoja barbaareja viikingit eivät kuitenkaan olleet, vaan kävivät taitavasti kauppaa, olivat erinomaisia purjehtijoita ja monitaitoisia käsityöläisiä sekä laivanrakentajia. Lisäksi viikingeillä oli rikas tarinaperinne."
Himmlers intrest also grew from the fact, that in many occasions in "early wars" vikings had difficulties invading areas in Finland and thus in many viking sagas Finnish areas and its people were called witches or spellbreakers. Nowadays when you inspect common viking routes, it is visible, that certain areas we're certainly ignored or avoided. There are some arguments saying that there wants anything interesting to see or loot for the vikings, but archelogical findings tell a totally different story. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulfberht_swords en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Finnish_wars
Please be careful with your words when greens or Helsingin sanomat ask comments for you. This post intersects heavily current HS agenda and HS try to separate Kalevala and Karelia. Highly possible troubles is ahead because their kosmopolitical ideology. Ideologies are now too strong. 🙂❤
They also tell lies that finns and karelians were primitive forest people and swedes and russians civilized us and that kvenland never existed. Poems of kalevala cannot be created without high culture and civization. And at the same time HS, svekoman elite of finland, museovirasto and mainstream media tells that finns and karelians have not right to exist as a people and that they does not have culture, hyper expensive viking age steel swords, high quality jewelerry and ornaments, gold and silver and even 2 golden crowns have been found from finland and finnish and karelian tombs. Evel silk clothes have been found in finnish tombs and every year more riches and weapons will be excavated more and more. And of course we should not forget that medieval sources and historians all the way to the 18th century mention finland(finland and kvenland) as ancient kingdom. Russian chronicles say that finland and karelia were ancient kingdoms and had kings who were present when rurik was crowned prince of russia in holmgård. Also according to genetics rurik was finn by blood and russian empress catherine has said that rurik was son of a finnish king. Also king harald fairhair and wilhelm the conqueror had stated that they were proud of being descended of kings of kvenland. This all has been censored for political reasons in the name of globalism and cosmopolitanism.
kantele and kannel probably pre date the nations we now call Finland and Estonia.. I'd say both are "crafted from the same tree". :) Laena mulle kannelt, Vanemuine!
It is funny how many things nazis made up for their lack of actual information. Also, "arian" should mean "earthling", if my basic knowledge of archaic Slavic is of any good.
False. Aryan (Proto Indo-European) tribes were originally situated between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea from where they spread both east and west. There is a reason why northern Indian brahmins can score up to 25% northeast European like DNA genetically. This is also the reason why the closest language related to Sanskrit is Lithuanian language.
One would've thought that the NSDAP's obsession with nordicism would've made Himmler hated Finland,a country that had resisted nordic-viking invasions for centuries ! Also,do you by chance know how much of it was influenced by genuine attraction to finnish folklore and how much by the finnish success in thwarting the Soviet Union during the Winter War? Because early fascist partisans were also obsessed with Turkey not because of their attraction to turkic folklore and more because H!tler admired Kemalist Turkey's success in thwarting the west and creating a ethnonationalist dictatorship as a good example of national rebirth. Does the same thing applies here? Did Himmler take the finnish victory under Mannerheim as a proof that the Herrenvolk is spiritually related to the Finns?
@@user-ce6iy2nw5o Poles and Slavs too have blond hair,but to say that Himmler viewed them negatively is an understatement. I seriously doubt that he would've given finns a pass simply because they have nordic traits.
@@user-ce6iy2nw5o and funny thing about mongols,some SS theorists believed that Genghis Khan was a fair haired half-4ryan m1schling,which gave him the power to steamroll 'decadent' oriental civilizations. Perhaps finns having uralic blood did not offend the germans as much;they might've had seen uralics as an acceptable aryan-native bastardized civilization similiar to greeks and italians.
@@haraldthorson9153 are karelians nordic? Are indigenous people in Sweden and Norway nordic too? In the first place Finns are only refered to as nordic because they secured an early independence from Russia; had the Duchy of Finland survived the Finns would've been categorized as uralics like the many ethnic minorities living in Northern Russia
As a Finn, I find it endlessly interesting how under-appreciated we have been as people through out history- and yet, we host some of the most amazing things on this planet. Many great men have been almost obsessed with us. There has to be something there.
Agreed
There is
the problem will always be religion
Government is a form of slavery
Finland is awesome, love from New York baby
My forefather was the greatest kantele player in Finland. He was professor of music and had two radio shows while he teach music in university. Hitler himself invited him to play kantele in opening ceremony of Nazi Olympics in 1936. Some people in my family are ashamed of this, but I am proud. He was extremely talented.
Ashamed of the Nazi connection, I assume.
What was his name?
@@IrishinFinland Ouh... Now I'm giving away who I am, my family tree. Here is link to Wikipedia: fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eino_Tulikari This article is very poor and imperfect. Nazi things are almost all wiped out. He also recorded his music, I have his vinyl. In Jyväskylä UNI there still are big hall called Tulikari sali. There is a book about him and his brothers life called Musiikkia Perhonjokilaaksosta. It's about musicians of that area. He could play kantele that was hanging on the wall or between his legs. His family made all kind of tricks just to annoy neighbours by showing their dominance in music skills XD
Älä missään nimessä häpeä perimääsi ja kerro se myös perheellesi. Sori kun sanon näin, mutta he saisivat hävetä itseään. 👍🏻
I'm 100%finn and proud of IT
Also I feel like I need to say this: if you move to Finland, do not try to compare our culture and habits to any other country. You will not see us as we truly are. A good example of this is how our habit of showing respect by giving space and being silent is seen as rude. Lacking manners. In reality, it was an honest attempt of getting along.
that's what I do too!
If you're interested in this kind of historical content, and you can understand Finnish well enough, there's a Finnish youtube channel called Myytinkertojat, there's a two part series on Finnish history that's not usually told in the history books, not saying that it's 100% true but it offers a fascinating depending on your point of view a what if or alternative view on Finnish history, sorta ties in with this video due to it mostly being about Finns being more or less rulers of the north. Personally I'm slightly skeptical on the position depicted in those videos but who knows, it could be true
Then some nazis did not think Finns were 'pure Aryan' and worth less than for instance the Swedes. People think that nazis had a worldview cut in stone, but there was certainly a lot of infighting and different beliefs. Many of the highest leaders in the nazi command believed very much in astronomy and were very keen to study the stars to know when and where to attack. Many believed it was quackery and/or going against their religious beliefs. Much of the nazi leadership was into some strange occultism and were indeed obsessed with things such as finding tons of old artifacts such as the holy grail, spear of destiny, and tons more. That could make an interesting video. Were there any artifacts they were searching for that they believed were in Finland and what did they think they could do with them?
The german theories that finnic and germanic peoples have common ancestry might be partially true. People found in ancient tombs of germany resembe genetically more modern finns and estonians than modern germans. And proto germanic, latvian and finnish are very similar. Maby balts, Finns and germanic peoples have common ancestry after all.
1/3 of Finns are carriers of the Y-DNA haplogroup I1 which is inherited from proto-Germanic hunter gatherers. They were most likely the first ancient population to settle in Finland.
@@Isarnan Germanic tribes like goths settled into western finland during migration period and they mingled with the kvens and became western finns. West finns are half germanic and half finnic. Kvens and karelians were the original inhabitans of finland. Even 2/3 of sweden was originally finnish and part of ancient land called kvenland.
Every human being has a common ancestor..
@@Isarnan I've read that rather than being proto-Germanic, the I1 in Finland, which forms it's own somewhat unique branch most commonly found in Finns and the Sami and not Scandinavians as much, came from a pre-Germanic population that migrated/fled first north into Lapland and then south into Finland itself. The Finnish I1 is also found all over the country, even in regions where Germanic Y-DNA is otherwise nonexistent, while the I1 more similar to Scandinavians is found in the west and in areas where the Swedish settled and such.
"Of the 28% of I1 in Finland, 65% belong to the exclusively Finnish L287 (downstream of L22) and particularly its L258 subclade. A few percents more belong to other subclades that are also specifically Finnish (e.g. L300). The rest (5-10%) generally resemble more closely Swedish I1. The Swedish-like subclades are unsurprisingly found primarily on the west and south-west coast of Finland, where Swedes have settled in historical times and where Swedish is still spoken. This is also where most of the R1b (3.5%) and Scandinavian R1a-Z282 (3%) is to be found. The Scandinavian I1 in Finland is found at a similar proportion to R1b and R1a as in Sweden. In contrast, Finnish I1 is found in all the country, where hardly any Germanic Y-DNA is present, strongly hints that these specifically Finnish branches of I1 are of pre-Germanic origin.
Finland is the only country with more than 15% of I1 where the Germanic culture and language didn't take root. A good reason for this would indeed be if Germanic culture did not yet exist in Scandinavia at the time when I1 reached Finland. Germanic culture is supposed to have been progressively formed during the Nordic Bronze Age, maturing by the start of the Iron Age around 500 BCE. If only a small group of I1 men spread their Y-chromosomal lineages among the last Mesolithic Fennoscandians, with little or no maternal contribution from the Battle-Axe culture, then their language would most probably have been lost too, as that small number of I1 men joined the northern tribes and adopted their language."
This from the Eupedia entry on the I1 haplogroup.
Source?
What a crazy coincidence, I’ve just been reading and researching Finland’s recruitment into the SS. As well as their fight against the Russians.
I had no idea about this. Truly fascinating. Thanks for upploading👏
Interesting ! Never knew that Himmler was so interested in Finnish ethnic history.
Thank you for this video! A previously unknown perspective for me on the relationship between Finland and Germany in the second world war. Very much appreciated!
This video was awesome! Well done 👏
I'm a karelian. My aunties whom some was witches, made often house spells to protect from evil spirits. My aunties told stories, that no book has been written. We still believes in orally traditions.
Here what my aunties told me. If its sounded racist, but remember these stories was over thousand years ago.
During the Ice Age, there was two tribes in ancient Karelia. One had a darker skin and the other had a lighter skin. Both tribes lived in peace and they decided to travel up north for better hunting grounds.
Then one day, the two tribes started arguing each other. Both tribes went separate ways. The dark skin tribe travelled from Lapland over to Canada and they became the Native Americans. The light skin tribe stayed in Lapland and they became the Sami.
I would love more information on this. Do you happen to know the names of the tribes? Or any clues? This story reminds me of another ancient story in the Oera Linda book. The ancient one wralda and his three daughters.
Fascinating!
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Bock saga was interesting based in Finland. Kinda makes sense in a way.
Can you make video about kvenland or old kainuu. Kaland of finland proper, ostrobothnia, torne valley, Finnmark/Ruija and nortern sweden belonged to it. In old texts ancient finland was called "finland and kvenland". Finland=Finland proper, satakunta, savonia and tavastland.
Karelia=All of karelia. Bjarmaland=shores of the white sea and kola peninsula.
110 % will!
How fascinating. Can you make more stuff on this subject if possible?
I will indeed!
Fascinating
I have allways felt like we are brothers to the Germans , i dont even know why , i noticed that when i started watching hockey , i was allways hoping that the Germans doing well in the tournaments 😂😂😂😂🤣
Similar in appearance, perhaps, but Finns and Germans are still not genetically that close to each other, and the claim that they would have the same forefathers is absurd.
@@vasara2385 Do you know that Finland has got percentually most blue eyed, blond haired, white complexion ppl in the world. Watch the video "Which country has the most blondies." The answer is Finland.
@@diamondsarenotforever8542 Yeah, you have been spamming that comment for 3-4 years now…
Also, what is your point? Are you saying that Finns can’t be blonde and blue-eyed without being closely related to Germans?
@@diamondsarenotforever8542 but many of us are dark haired like my family me my father and my cousin had blonde hair only when we was like 4 years old after that our hair color was damn near black yes many does have blue eyes but we have like a mixture of light grey green and blue and we come from karelia.what you said is very true but take this as an example this might happen to all of us finns🤷🏻♂️ I can honesly say like 89% are just dark haired
@@diamondsarenotforever8542 oh yea and this statement might come from the fact that we have alot of blonde women in our country
Really love the Skyrim music in the background :D
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
There is a link between Finns and Germans through a branch of the Corded Ware Culture that settled in Finland.
Fun fact: There are still some old Gothic loanwords used in Finnish. For example, the Finnish word "kuningas" (a king), is "kuningaz" in Gothic. Also "äiti" (a mother) is from the old Gothic language which was used by the East-Germanic tribes in 3rd-10th century
Or Finnish words in Gothic 😁
"the Finnish word "kuningas" (a king)" - in Estonian it's the same word for a King! ^_^
Kunigas is priest in Lithuanian and the word Duke or a powerful ruler is kunigaikstis
What about 'father' - in gothic 'Ata'?
Great video man, love the thumbnail :DD
Cheers 🤟🏻🤣
Being Finnish is to transform but still remain the same. Wholeness.
Read “The Lightning and the Sun” by Savitri Devi.
music is abit too loud, but informative video. thank u.
Are these recordings floating around anywhere?
Thank you for asking the question that I was going to ask.
Man, can you send me that thumbnail or upload it somewhere Im wheezing XD
I knew about this but didn't actually know much of the details
Finland has a lot of great Comics about the ancient times and mythology. I rented a book called Pakanat by Tuomas Myllylä, it's really cool, lots of Perkele and Sisu, I RECCOMEND IT HIGHLY!!
Nice! Cheers for that I'll check it out
Look at Ukko's hammer and then Thor's hammer ( Mjölnir )
Music Name?
Jeremy Soule - Dawn (from Skyrim soundtrack)
@@IrishinFinland thanks ;)
It was a good place to start. The Finnish people have the most Corded ware and western hunter gatherer.
I believe some old finnish artifacts are in germany somewhere...from migration period and bronze age.
Indeed. When I visited the national Museum of Denmark in Copenhagen there was an viking exhibition. So you could take a Look of a lot of iron age stuff from Northern Europe. I remember on sword, a so called ULBERTH sword, which is highly assoiciated with the rich viking society. As I read the Information I saw that the sword was found in Finland. It’s funny because the debate wether Finns were vikings or not gets allways silenced by Scandinavians. But if it comes to archelogical evidence you would use finnish stuff to prove your own viking heritage. Kind of paradox. I think there are a lot of findings in swedish museums which are from Finland originally. There is evidence of grave robbing from Swedish archelogists in Finland as it was still part of the Swedish Empire.
forever story of devide and conquer of mind of man, east and west comes one. 0line
It has been proven by geneaology that Germans and Finns have very little in common, the fact that Germans are Indo-European people who migrated from Africa, through the middle-earth straight to Europe, and that Finns who belonged to the Uralic peoples migrated from Africa through the middle-east and then into Siberia/Asia and then went west to Finland, proves that they are very different, perhaps Himmler meant we all had the same fathers in Africa, but even that he would never say to anyone else.
Roman dignitires remarked at how civilised and anti-degeneracy the western barbarians were. Interestingly, wherever they had political and cultural dominance all forms of degeneracy were outlawed and soon abated.
Ahnenerbe is idea/concept inheritance
Are you saying Himmler believed the Finns were descended from Alantis?
Nazis were bit screwed in their minds, they ate hallusinogens, had "court witches" etc. and were actively trying to find all sorts of mythological items as they believed them to be true and help to build their 1000 years empire.
Many people are blinded by extreme Indo-europeanism, but they forget that greeks got their culture and civilization from minoans who were non-indo european. Etruscans who heavily influenced roman civilization were also non-indo european. Sumerians were also non-indo european.
Also germanic peoples and finnic peoples have a connection: west finns aka Tavastians. West finns are former germanic tribes who settled western finland during migration period. Over time they mingled with kvens and karelians and became west finns. Goths did not die out, they were assimilated into west finns and swedes long ago. Gotland, Göta of sweden and south-western finland were settled by goths. It is said that mythical Fornjotr kings of Finland and Kvenland were at least partially of gothic origin.
Also the theories that finns are mongols are completely absurd. Finns do not even look like asians. In fact, finland is the most blonde and blue eyed nation in the entire fucking world. Dark haired and brown eyed people are in marginal. Also according to genetic studies populations with most of blue, green and grey eyed people in the world are located not in scandinavia but in north-eastern baltic sea where finnic peoples live to this day. All of scandinavia exept danmark and scania was finnish before migration periods. Populated by the kvens. Also corpses of bronze and iron age tombs of northern central europe resemble genetically more modern day finns and estonians than the modern population of those territories.
Finnish language has nothing to do with mongols or siberia. Finnish is oldest language of europe and one of the oldest languages in the world.
Aslo FUTHARK runic writings written in finnish have been found from bjarmaland or shores of the white sea. In one such text there is drawings of people hunting and farming and it reads "Sen Ihmiset Tekevi" or "What Humans Do". Also many finnic birchbark letters written in runes have been excavated mainly from russia but also from the city of turku in western finland what was btw finnish city before swedes took it in mid 13th century. Arabian carthographer Al-Idris wrote in 12th century that Aboa(turku) is finnish city and that king of finland owns land in norway(finnmark). Finns were not primitive savages like official history wants you to believe. Finnic peoples wrote with futhark runes but they did not have runestones like germanic peoples had. Finns also used runic calendars and runic was main writing system of the finns all the way to the 18th century. So few of the runic writings have survived because wood gets destroyed easily.
In bjarmaland there are ruins of advanced stone structures and corpses of the bjarmian tombs are all haplogroup N1c. Also hundreds of viking age swords have been excavated from finland and only norway has more swords. Tombs are full of high quality jewellery and even luxury products from the far east. How on earth official history explains that finns were forest people while all the riches and advanced stuff are found from finnic tombs and ruins.
Mongols were archenemies of the finnic peoples. They have nothing to do with finns. Mongols waged war against finnic peoples of volga and played part in the destruction of greatest and richest finnic realm Bjarmaland in 13th century with their attacks. Saying that mongols and finns are the same is same thing that saying "greeks and turks are the same". Samojeds have nothing to do with finnic peoples so do not say that finns are mongols because samojeds look like asians. Also if N1c haplo is mongolid in your opinion then founder of the kievan rus varangian price and viking king Rurik must be mongol then right? Think all this before accusing finns to be mongols!
It's nonsense anyway, as if I as a German have more in common with Bengalis and Kurds than with Finns because of language relationship.
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"She was believed to be one of the last of the infamous Finnish -- " What's the next word?
Tietäjä
@@IrishinFinland Thank you.
"seer, wise man"
For anyone else who's curious:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiet%C3%A4j%C3%A4
@IrishinFinland A literal translation is "knower", or "the one who knows."
Pagan roots
I'm not educated in these matters but I guess that 3000-4000 years ago some Indo-Europeans switched their language to Finno-Ugric, maybe it was assimilation because of trade or something like that.
Right! Read the book " viiden meren kansa" written by Risto Isomäki.
It's completely obvious that you're not educated because you are talking out of your ass. Indo-Europeans have nothing to do with Finno-Ugric cultures.
I have the same guess or this was part of marrige at The same time..
Viipuri, fourth largest city at that time, a town? Shame on you! 🙂
More seriously, an extremely interesting video with a lot of things that I knew absolutely nothing about. Thus, thank you!
Btw, which troops are they inspecting at 7:20? The helmets are absolutely not German/Finnish, they look more Russian really.
Was a bit of an odd one that picture, like it's definitely mannerheim and himmler but the troops are yeah like you said Russian looking, maybe pow's?
@@IrishinFinland Well, probably not POWs - they wouldn't be fighting very much for Germany. Could it be a regiment of Waffen SS from one of the Eastern European countries like Romania, Hungary or Bulgaria?
Finnish army used Italian helmets which look similiar to soviet helmet.
Im not sure but I think that finnish army also used soviet helmets.
@@AverageCity17citizen Interesting. But wouldn't that increase the possibility of friendly fire?
More you keep digging, more u may find.. 👍🏻 aint finland and its ppl boring? 😅
póg mo thóin
No thank you
@@IrishinFinland that's all I can speak in irish :D
I recall reading, great many years ago, in the deep, murky bowels of the net that the Swedish racial studies denigrated Finns as lesser people, and since the German and Swedish far right had close ties, the Germans would have listened to these theories. This would have affected the Germans so that they had nothing against handing Finland over to the Soviets in the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. On the other hand, such thoughts probably weren't that significant in Sweden, which had relatively good relations with Finland due to the historical connection and the importance of the Swedish speaking Finns in Finland.
Nevertheless, it's strange how many lunatics the Nazi party had within its core.
Well just look at Trump and his core. Perhaps it's not that strange.
Herman Göring the WWI fighter pilot ace spent time in Sweden as a pilot flying mail for the post office. He also married a Swedish woman, Carin.
I think a Viking heritage was a lot more appealing to the Nazi.
@@hurri7720 vikings were not an ethnicity. Viking does not equal skandinavian. Even finns, estonians, curonians and celts were part of viking raids. Finns of kvenland had big part to play in eastern route and even the original name of kiev was kvenugard(fortress of the kvens). And in the documents of east roman varangian guard there are finnish names. And hundreds of viking age swords have been excavated from ancient finnish tombs. Only norway has more swords than finland. And highest amount of ulfberth and ingelrii swords in the entire world have been found from finland. Maby you should abandon those swedish 19th century lies that finnic peoples are "mongols from urals" and look what ancient documents and latest international studies tell about finland and the finns. Also the uralic theory has been completely wreked by newest genetic studies and archeology but the svekoman elites of finland will still teach uralic theory to our kids in schools as a fact for political reasons.
@@Aldanil ,
the language with which the Vikings enriched the "English" language was the Scandinavian language.
How the Vikings Changed the English Language
czcams.com/video/9ZV1BOcGiV0/video.html
But like now people mixed and trawelled then too and I have no doubt also Finns and others took part.
Still I find it a bit funny how Russians in Vyborg today play on that Viking heritage.
But I think the Wikipedia has it properly regarding Vikings here:
"Vikings[a] is the modern name given to seafaring people originally from Scandinavia (present-day Denmark, Norway and Sweden),[3][4][5][6] who from the late 8th to the late 11th centuries raided, pirated, traded and settled throughout parts of Europe.[7][8][9] They also voyaged as far as the Mediterranean, North Africa, Volga Bulgaria, the Middle East, and North America. In some of the countries they raided and settled in, this period is popularly known as the Viking Age, and the term "Viking" also commonly includes the inhabitants of the Scandinavian homelands as a collective whole. The Vikings had a profound impact on the early medieval history of Scandinavia, the British Isles, France, Estonia, and Kievan Rus."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings
And in Finnish here:
"Viikingit olivat pääasiassa skandinaavista alkuperää olevia aseistautuneita merenkulkijoita 700-1000-luvuilla.[1][2] Näitä sotureita ja kaukopurjehtijoita lähti Norjasta, Ruotsista ja Tanskasta etsimään kultaa, hopeaa ja uutta maata. He ryöstelivät ympäri Eurooppaa, ottivat itselleen orjia ja matkasivat Bagdadiin ja Amerikkaan asti. Heillä oli tarunomainen maine nopeista ja rohkeista hyökkäyksistään joista munkit kirjoittivat muistiin kauhukertomuksia luostarien ja kaupunkien ryöstöistä. Pelkkiä raakoja barbaareja viikingit eivät kuitenkaan olleet, vaan kävivät taitavasti kauppaa, olivat erinomaisia purjehtijoita ja monitaitoisia käsityöläisiä sekä laivanrakentajia. Lisäksi viikingeillä oli rikas tarinaperinne."
3:28 Why is there a Russian book written in the church's Slavic language? :D
Just b-roll is all it is, hard to find this sort of stuff with Finnish
The Eastern Orthodox Church has their own "Latin", Church Slavonic
Himmlers intrest also grew from the fact, that in many occasions in "early wars" vikings had difficulties invading areas in Finland and thus in many viking sagas Finnish areas and its people were called witches or spellbreakers. Nowadays when you inspect common viking routes, it is visible, that certain areas we're certainly ignored or avoided. There are some arguments saying that there wants anything interesting to see or loot for the vikings, but archelogical findings tell a totally different story. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulfberht_swords
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Finnish_wars
Please be careful with your words when greens or Helsingin sanomat ask comments for you. This post intersects heavily current HS agenda and HS try to separate Kalevala and Karelia. Highly possible troubles is ahead because their kosmopolitical ideology. Ideologies are now too strong. 🙂❤
They also tell lies that finns and karelians were primitive forest people and swedes and russians civilized us and that kvenland never existed. Poems of kalevala cannot be created without high culture and civization. And at the same time HS, svekoman elite of finland, museovirasto and mainstream media tells that finns and karelians have not right to exist as a people and that they does not have culture, hyper expensive viking age steel swords, high quality jewelerry and ornaments, gold and silver and even 2 golden crowns have been found from finland and finnish and karelian tombs. Evel silk clothes have been found in finnish tombs and every year more riches and weapons will be excavated more and more. And of course we should not forget that medieval sources and historians all the way to the 18th century mention finland(finland and kvenland) as ancient kingdom. Russian chronicles say that finland and karelia were ancient kingdoms and had kings who were present when rurik was crowned prince of russia in holmgård. Also according to genetics rurik was finn by blood and russian empress catherine has said that rurik was son of a finnish king. Also king harald fairhair and wilhelm the conqueror had stated that they were proud of being descended of kings of kvenland. This all has been censored for political reasons in the name of globalism and cosmopolitanism.
HS is bunch of busybody activists doing their thing.
Kantele is based on Estonian instrument called Kannel.
You don't have an ancient god Väinämöinen, who made the very first Kantele by jaws of enormous pike. So sorry Estonia, let's still be friends XD
@@MilenaAnnina Kannel has less strings than Kantele, which means that Kantele is and upgraded version of Kannel.
@@kriskt4754 My Kantele has 5 strings. Do they have different names like for a 36 string?
kantele and kannel probably pre date the nations we now call Finland and Estonia.. I'd say both are "crafted from the same tree". :)
Laena mulle kannelt, Vanemuine!
Childhood is thinking it was perverted, manhood is realising it is necessary.
It is funny how many things nazis made up for their lack of actual information. Also, "arian" should mean "earthling", if my basic knowledge of archaic Slavic is of any good.
Aryans are originally from northern India. Gypsies today are the closest to original aryans.
False. Aryan (Proto Indo-European) tribes were originally situated between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea from where they spread both east and west. There is a reason why northern Indian brahmins can score up to 25% northeast European like DNA genetically. This is also the reason why the closest language related to Sanskrit is Lithuanian language.
@@Isarnan False. This is some bullshit pseudo-science. Next you suggest there were kings in Finland :--D
@@Isarnan Ur aryan gatekeeping is looking good there larp.
Aryan from old translations meant "Civilized Person"
@@Isarnan Bullshit
One would've thought that the NSDAP's obsession with nordicism would've made Himmler hated Finland,a country that had resisted nordic-viking invasions for centuries !
Also,do you by chance know how much of it was influenced by genuine attraction to finnish folklore and how much by the finnish success in thwarting the Soviet Union during the Winter War? Because early fascist partisans were also obsessed with Turkey not because of their attraction to turkic folklore and more because H!tler admired Kemalist Turkey's success in thwarting the west and creating a ethnonationalist dictatorship as a good example of national rebirth. Does the same thing applies here? Did Himmler take the finnish victory under Mannerheim as a proof that the Herrenvolk is spiritually related to the Finns?
@@user-ce6iy2nw5o Poles and Slavs too have blond hair,but to say that Himmler viewed them negatively is an understatement. I seriously doubt that he would've given finns a pass simply because they have nordic traits.
@@user-ce6iy2nw5o and funny thing about mongols,some SS theorists believed that Genghis Khan was a fair haired half-4ryan m1schling,which gave him the power to steamroll 'decadent' oriental civilizations. Perhaps finns having uralic blood did not offend the germans as much;they might've had seen uralics as an acceptable aryan-native bastardized civilization similiar to greeks and italians.
Finnish people are racially nordic and baltic and the fairest of all peoples.
@@haraldthorson9153 are karelians nordic? Are indigenous people in Sweden and Norway nordic too? In the first place Finns are only refered to as nordic because they secured an early independence from Russia; had the Duchy of Finland survived the Finns would've been categorized as uralics like the many ethnic minorities living in Northern Russia
@@user-ce6iy2nw5o Believe? Do you believe in trees and water?
Too bad the Soviets weren't able to clear the fascısts out of Finland.
Because they did so well otherwise?😂