Russel Brand did the same thing that I recall being a catalyst for deconstruction was that so much was based on feelings rather than reason and rational. Every other word out of his mouth was some form of other word feel. I can get all the feels I want without it, but it will never be a driver for forming points of view.
Religions train you to interpret your inner monolog as a dialog. 🔥 🔥 How to tell the difference was my biggest question when I was in. I once went to a seminar on exactly this and my conclusion "We were all just trained on how to delude ourselves, steer the conversation and call it the holy spirit.
Thanks a lot--another great show--it is amazing that even if you have deconstructed and deconverted, shows like yours raise issues that you never thought about but that actually bring joy and happiness--it was a lot of crap and indoctrination, and for me psychological abuse--we have to keep on unlearning or re-learning. Thank you.
We speak a monologue in our mind, Christians claim it's a dialogue with their imaginary friend Jesus. The single biggest gift is no longer being a slave to superstition.
Russell Brand famously married and publicly divorced Katy Perry, who was originally performed as a Christian artist using the name Katy Hudson. Cross Movement and Katy Hudson were both active in the the early 2000s. I wonder if you ever crossed paths. I also wonder if any of his time with her affected his theology.
All these memes remind me of all the mind fuckery that goes on in Christianity. This kind of shit is a key part of the ongoing indoctrination for people who have never learned skepticism. It keeps you tied up in knots and always feeling like you’re never good enough. BTW, my name is Ken and I live in Cuenca Ecuador.
Sorry to be a bit pedantic here, but being a long-time internet surfer (lol) I don't think posts that have only text in them and no meme-like format count as memes. If memes were like that, I guess every blog post or piece of text could be a meme, but then the definition would be meaningless.
@@jasonb7870 I had the same problem a year ago and it mysteriously resolved itself at some point -- sorry I have no insight about proactive steps to take.
I'm always a bit torn about critiques of God's goodness and justice. I can appreciate their validity now as an ex-believer, but while still in the faith I would have strongly countered that you cannot evaluate a transcendent, omnipotent, all-wise being in human terms. Those standards just do not apply. I think that's why it took so long for me to deconvert, and why my departure was mostly on the basis that God evidently does not exist at all. If God did exist, then definitionally, all of his actions and judgments would be right.
Like, if a man (perhaps an older gentleman with a lot of orange makeup) came up to you and said "I deserve your absolute loyalty and obedience," you'd tell him to f*** off, and you would be right. He's just a man. Even a highly competent and moral man wouldn't deserve those things from you. But God, if he were real, would exist in a whole other category and different rules would apply. This is Barth's "dialectical" view: God is essentially *unlike* us instead of being an amplified, superlative version of us. I sure did love me some Karl Barth back in the day. He was my weapons supplier to keep defending all this fictional nonsense for longer than I should have.
@david_deboe I'm not sure it would make god's actions 'right' if he existed... in any basis other than 'might makes right' ..because his actions would be arbitrarily validated by his own subective point of view. But as soon as you introduce other subjects into the equation, 'right' will become a matter of varying opinion
Funny how having no logical basis to make absolute moral judgments, yall judging the biblical God on moral issues…wish yall applied the same rigidity to what yall now believe n see if it passes the tests!
Russel Brand did the same thing that I recall being a catalyst for deconstruction was that so much was based on feelings rather than reason and rational. Every other word out of his mouth was some form of other word feel. I can get all the feels I want without it, but it will never be a driver for forming points of view.
Russel Brand did the same thing that I recall being a catalyst for deconstruction was that so much was based on feelings rather than reason and rational. Every other word out of his mouth was some form of other word feel. I can get all the feels I want without it, but it will never be a driver for forming points of view.
Religions train you to interpret your inner monolog as a dialog. 🔥 🔥
How to tell the difference was my biggest question when I was in. I once went to a seminar on exactly this and my conclusion "We were all just trained on how to delude ourselves, steer the conversation and call it the holy spirit.
The amount of Christian memes about "love" outweighs the ones about "punishments" lol!
I'm sad I missed the live stream. Great show!
Thanks a lot--another great show--it is amazing that even if you have deconstructed and deconverted, shows like yours raise issues that you never thought about but that actually bring joy and happiness--it was a lot of crap and indoctrination, and for me psychological abuse--we have to keep on unlearning or re-learning. Thank you.
5:43 yes ❤ this is so important
We speak a monologue in our mind, Christians claim it's a dialogue with their imaginary friend Jesus. The single biggest gift is no longer being a slave to superstition.
Russell Brand famously married and publicly divorced Katy Perry, who was originally performed as a Christian artist using the name Katy Hudson. Cross Movement and Katy Hudson were both active in the the early 2000s. I wonder if you ever crossed paths.
I also wonder if any of his time with her affected his theology.
Great show!
Good show Brady!
All these memes remind me of all the mind fuckery that goes on in Christianity. This kind of shit is a key part of the ongoing indoctrination for people who have never learned skepticism. It keeps you tied up in knots and always feeling like you’re never good enough. BTW, my name is Ken and I live in Cuenca Ecuador.
Its perplexing that anyone would try to examine Russell Brands beliefs. If he came across a giant squirrel he would be his meal for the day.
Man if you haven't seen Forgetting Sarah Marshall what are you doing 😂 if you haven't seen any Russell Brand movie you gotta see that one
Oh, i saw it... lol. I just don't be remembering who was in what
Sorry to be a bit pedantic here, but being a long-time internet surfer (lol) I don't think posts that have only text in them and no meme-like format count as memes.
If memes were like that, I guess every blog post or piece of text could be a meme, but then the definition would be meaningless.
I had a similar thought but ran with the title any way lol
Can't get u on Facebook Brady
You mean you can't find my profile?
@@ichapod l your found page but can't send messages
@@jasonb7870 strange.. what's your handle?
@@ichapod Jayson King
@@jasonb7870 I had the same problem a year ago and it mysteriously resolved itself at some point -- sorry I have no insight about proactive steps to take.
I'm always a bit torn about critiques of God's goodness and justice. I can appreciate their validity now as an ex-believer, but while still in the faith I would have strongly countered that you cannot evaluate a transcendent, omnipotent, all-wise being in human terms. Those standards just do not apply.
I think that's why it took so long for me to deconvert, and why my departure was mostly on the basis that God evidently does not exist at all. If God did exist, then definitionally, all of his actions and judgments would be right.
Like, if a man (perhaps an older gentleman with a lot of orange makeup) came up to you and said "I deserve your absolute loyalty and obedience," you'd tell him to f*** off, and you would be right. He's just a man. Even a highly competent and moral man wouldn't deserve those things from you.
But God, if he were real, would exist in a whole other category and different rules would apply. This is Barth's "dialectical" view: God is essentially *unlike* us instead of being an amplified, superlative version of us. I sure did love me some Karl Barth back in the day. He was my weapons supplier to keep defending all this fictional nonsense for longer than I should have.
@david_deboe I'm not sure it would make god's actions 'right' if he existed... in any basis other than 'might makes right' ..because his actions would be arbitrarily validated by his own subective point of view. But as soon as you introduce other subjects into the equation, 'right' will become a matter of varying opinion
Funny how having no logical basis to make absolute moral judgments, yall judging the biblical God on moral issues…wish yall applied the same rigidity to what yall now believe n see if it passes the tests!
Russel Brand did the same thing that I recall being a catalyst for deconstruction was that so much was based on feelings rather than reason and rational. Every other word out of his mouth was some form of other word feel. I can get all the feels I want without it, but it will never be a driver for forming points of view.