I go to the American Academy of Art, I wish drawing from the cast was more apart of the the curriculum. I love the my school it’s more hands on to materials than other accredited schools that I known of. This was a joy to see, and I pray maybe someday the angel Academy will expand.
What an excellent overview. Mr Angel seems like a down to earth but exacting gentleman. The quality of the students work is most impressive. And judging by Cesar Santos, the alumni go on to do great things. Remarkable. Thank you for sharing this peek into the Angel Academy
Yes, but his uncle trained him as a child and as a late teen/young adult he went to New World it's a art college/high school in Miami. Why mix college age guys with high school age girls? Who knows?! It's Miami, then he went to Angel academy and taught and studied at another Atelier in Switzerland. You can't learn everything from one school.
@@mariocinquemani3134 Cesar Santos' works may be boring to you but fascinating to me :) One doesn't have to always strike for something new, be authentic to oneself is suffice.
Anyone who really does want to understand Caravaggio's technique for real should read the free to download technical bulletin on the National Gallery of London's website where the "Abbozzo" block in is explained which is the direct opposite of as Michael John Angel calls it "Grisaille". Don't get me wrong if you want to do realist painting this place looks excellent and Florence is the greatest place on earth so I'm not saying anything against the course in itself it just depresses me that people who are teaching others are passing this off as Caravaggio's technique when it isn't.
I read that by the national gallery and it seems you are the one who didnt have the knowledge or understanding to comprehend what you were reading and the fact that it actually agreed with this academic approach of a grisaille only using a different name for it. You look pretty foolish in my eyes because the national gallery literally states that there is 3 different types of techniques used by Caravaggio examined in the study on his surfaces. You chose one of the examples and tried to base your argument off it while ignoring the others. The technique of applying a semi transparent white (in caravaggio's case egg tempera white which was probably some sort of egg oil emulsion) over a toned warm ground to bring out the modeling in certain parts is explicitly shown in their research. He didnt do it every time, he didnt do most of the time but he still used it to model flesh. BTW they show students using full color in the red and bright colors in this academic approach. They arent teaching a full grisaille in the first place which would be a black and white painting. It clearly shows them applying full body color with no under painting just as caravaggio did. This is the more academic approach to Caravaggio's technique. There are also other studies from conservation departments in Italy that you can pull up on CZcams that actually show a breakdown of his technique and it shows how caravaggio used a white tinted with naples yellow transparently over a warm ground to model his flesh tones in some of his work. Thats what a grisaille is. Its a largely colorless first pass at flesh or modeling of something.
@@devinmichaelroberts9954 The technical bulletin is called "Three Paintings by Caravaggio" by Larry Keith. It covers three paintings 1."Boy Bitten by a Lizard" 2."The Supper at Emmaus" 3."Salome Receiving the Head of John the Baptist". It's impossible for me to know which of the three you think was painted using the grisaille technique because you've not said which one or two you think were painted in this way. I just don't think any or them were painted using grisaille. On the other hand 2. and 3. are explicitly described as using the "abbozzo" technique. When it comes to 1. I am saying that Caravaggio did not paint the illuminated flesh areas in a grisaille over which he then painted a flesh coloured layer, that just did not happen but you and the film above say that it did. There is nothing in this bulletin that states that Caravaggio used the grisaille technique at all.
Exactelly. I am professor of conservation of works of arts and i do know what it takes financially for one person to attend a private classical atelier like this one: a lot ! Or you have a very secure financial background to go there to live a cumbaia life style, studying at will, have a home to live, food, etc and be non preoccupied with other things or you simply can't do it. Going from another country to that place, trying to work and study at the same time is almost , if not completely, impossible. And in the end you will probably not have money to pay for food or sheler after the monthly tuition ( thi is IF you get a job there in the first place, cleaning dishes or serving tables ). This is a very romantic and fluffy video , but the reallity is one: it is expensive, is for people with money, that have someone that pay for them ( parents, family, etc ) not for people with talent that are poor and really could use an impressive art course like this one. Hell, i almost paint like this and i don't even ave a formal painting education, just an education in conservation of works of art. And i searched for online couses everywere from the Wattts Atelier, to the Barcelona Atelier, the Florence Academy, Angel, etc etc and the prices are all astronomical, absolutely impractical .. These academies operate with the tuitions of rich students, not poor talented people. A sad reality, but a reallity non the less. But just as it is, the courses are unbelievable and supreme, i wish i could have the money to go there. Impossible.
no you dont... Honestly what most people dont understand is no matter the quality of the school you go to. At the end of the day you are still educating yourself. Teachers only find the material and provide it to you and give you shortcuts by answering questions directly and demonstrating but at the end of the day you inside your own brain put that knowledge together and put it into practice. If you dont have the money you can model your education that you do at home after an atelier. THats what I did. I spent 6 years doing cast drawing at home, moving to a limited palette of color eventually and doing still life etc. When I saved up enough I attended gage academy for a couple semesters so i could ask teachers questions and get info. Now im a professional artist who makes a really good living doing what I love and I know several artists who spent big bucks going to academy's and they work minimum wage jobs now.
I would actually say I personally see a huge problem with these academy's because many people who are drawn to realism tend to be so structured and regimented in personality so much so that they cant break away from this academic training when they leave. It just becomes ingrained in them. and now we are seeing in the galleries that i work with hundreds of artists here in the states painting identical looking academic figure paintings with no real life of the artist in them. You are better off working your ass off and teaching yourself and attending workshops from artists you admire while doing master studies of your own. You are more likely to develop your own voice.
Oh boy... what would I do to be able to attend that academy. Maybe one day when financial pressure is not as hard as it is right now and when my kids are grown up...
It's for rich people and students that have parents or familly that can support them in this cumbaia life style in Florence, NOT for the gifted student that is poor and only can afford the tuition of the Art school in their town that just teaches conceptual art and only to act and think as a modern artist but don't teach art or technique ( i know, i studied in one and i am a professor of restoration of works of art pissed of with the status of the art institutes in general and the lack of clasical training in all of them ) . this classical Academies like Angel are an utopia for 99 % of people, is just for rich people that like to paint and have money to spend. César Santos didn't studied there for free you know, he had to go and have someone to pay for his studies in full wille he lived the cumbaia lifestyle of aa art student in Floirence that now talks about it with pride in CZcams. The rest of the world can't afford that luxury, even if one is more naturally gifted that someone that goes there. Sad but anyway...
Can i start to use oil paint at first year? I can only afford 1 year to study here and i want to learn mainly the oil paint techniques. Which year oil paint starts at the school? Thanks.
They offer workshops for working in oil if they do not offer to study one specific year i would reccomend practicing at home with graphite by copying bargue drawings there are many instruction videos out there in YT and i would reccomend Stephen Bauman's patreon page its only 10$ you can learn to work with graphite and oil , work in graphite and charcoal at least 1 year and then do some workshops in florence at Angel Academy
Do they have an online course? I live in the U.S.and have a family and I would love to attend but,who has money to move to Italy,get a home,pay for supplies and pay them......
I’m taking a local Bargue course with an excellent instructor. Trying to copy the plates from the book without an instructor is probably like learning engine repair or neurosurgery from a book, possible but not the most effective or efficient approach.
+UFLY ABE What is your best Artists lists? Picasso, Dali....? They ALL studied in the same way...if you don't learn the alphabet you can't write, if you don't learn jazz you can't improvise, if you don't learn physics you can't understand laws of universe, what you see is a knowledge that has been passed down through centuries of wonder and fatigue without interruption.... you still the one who will make the difference and the change only with your konowldge and your imagination... Don't believe stupids peoples and idiotities of new era, they don't have much things to do in life than criticize...
I stidied at a similar school in Australia. My question to you is 'but IS this the tradition it entirely claims to be?' I'll give you some examples. The Carracci Academy in Bologna, look at the variety of styles the famous pupils there produced ie Guido Reni, Lanfranco, Domenichino etc EVEN their student work does not look entirely the same. While in this video students produce THE SAME still life THE SAME figure study. Its really the other extreme of hyper subjectivity in the arts today ie an aesthetic of POSITIVISM not unlike Meiss Van der Roe in architecture. Education SHOULD be intensely systematic agreed but this is mechanistic and as Vasari said of the Quattrocento DRY!!!
Let's see your work,no I don't have to see your work. I can just log on to deviantart and scroll the terrible manga/anime/unicorn art and I'm sure you'll be in there.
Of the 100's of art videos I've watched this by far is the most thorough and complete in it's explanation - Thank You
wow.. I want to go
A tempting tour of the academy. Would very much like to study there for at least a couple of terms.
I go to the American Academy of Art, I wish drawing from the cast was more apart of the the curriculum. I love the my school it’s more hands on to materials than other accredited schools that I known of. This was a joy to see, and I pray maybe someday the angel Academy will expand.
What an excellent overview. Mr Angel seems like a down to earth but exacting gentleman. The quality of the students work is most impressive. And judging by Cesar Santos, the alumni go on to do great things. Remarkable. Thank you for sharing this peek into the Angel Academy
Wonderful!
Love it, would love to be and go there, Louie an artist from new jersey.
this is the school Cesar Santos attend ?
Yes, but his uncle trained him as a child and as a late teen/young adult he went to New World it's a art college/high school in Miami.
Why mix college age guys with high school age girls? Who knows?! It's Miami, then he went to Angel academy and taught and studied at another Atelier in Switzerland. You can't learn everything from one school.
yes and Florence academy of art
Yes Cesar santos
Bryan Vasquez that's why his paintings are so boring... He is a good painter but not an artist with a particular style, or bringing anything new. . .
@@mariocinquemani3134 Cesar Santos' works may be boring to you but fascinating to me :) One doesn't have to always strike for something new, be authentic to oneself is suffice.
Awesome!
Anyone who really does want to understand Caravaggio's technique for real should read the free to download technical bulletin on the National Gallery of London's website where the "Abbozzo" block in is explained which is the direct opposite of as Michael John Angel calls it "Grisaille". Don't get me wrong if you want to do realist painting this place looks excellent and Florence is the greatest place on earth so I'm not saying anything against the course in itself it just depresses me that people who are teaching others are passing this off as Caravaggio's technique when it isn't.
I read that by the national gallery and it seems you are the one who didnt have the knowledge or understanding to comprehend what you were reading and the fact that it actually agreed with this academic approach of a grisaille only using a different name for it. You look pretty foolish in my eyes because the national gallery literally states that there is 3 different types of techniques used by Caravaggio examined in the study on his surfaces. You chose one of the examples and tried to base your argument off it while ignoring the others. The technique of applying a semi transparent white (in caravaggio's case egg tempera white which was probably some sort of egg oil emulsion) over a toned warm ground to bring out the modeling in certain parts is explicitly shown in their research. He didnt do it every time, he didnt do most of the time but he still used it to model flesh. BTW they show students using full color in the red and bright colors in this academic approach. They arent teaching a full grisaille in the first place which would be a black and white painting. It clearly shows them applying full body color with no under painting just as caravaggio did. This is the more academic approach to Caravaggio's technique. There are also other studies from conservation departments in Italy that you can pull up on CZcams that actually show a breakdown of his technique and it shows how caravaggio used a white tinted with naples yellow transparently over a warm ground to model his flesh tones in some of his work. Thats what a grisaille is. Its a largely colorless first pass at flesh or modeling of something.
@@devinmichaelroberts9954 The technical bulletin is called "Three Paintings by Caravaggio" by Larry Keith. It covers three paintings 1."Boy Bitten by a Lizard" 2."The Supper at Emmaus" 3."Salome Receiving the Head of John the Baptist". It's impossible for me to know which of the three you think was painted using the grisaille technique because you've not said which one or two you think were painted in this way. I just don't think any or them were painted using grisaille. On the other hand 2. and 3. are explicitly described as using the "abbozzo" technique. When it comes to 1. I am saying that Caravaggio did not paint the illuminated flesh areas in a grisaille over which he then painted a flesh coloured layer, that just did not happen but you and the film above say that it did. There is nothing in this bulletin that states that Caravaggio used the grisaille technique at all.
Now all I need to do is win the lotto
Exactelly. I am professor of conservation of works of arts and i do know what it takes financially for one person to attend a private classical atelier like this one: a lot ! Or you have a very secure financial background to go there to live a cumbaia life style, studying at will, have a home to live, food, etc and be non preoccupied with other things or you simply can't do it. Going from another country to that place, trying to work and study at the same time is almost , if not completely, impossible. And in the end you will probably not have money to pay for food or sheler after the monthly tuition ( thi is IF you get a job there in the first place, cleaning dishes or serving tables ). This is a very romantic and fluffy video , but the reallity is one: it is expensive, is for people with money, that have someone that pay for them ( parents, family, etc ) not for people with talent that are poor and really could use an impressive art course like this one. Hell, i almost paint like this and i don't even ave a formal painting education, just an education in conservation of works of art.
And i searched for online couses everywere from the Wattts Atelier, to the Barcelona Atelier, the Florence Academy, Angel, etc etc and the prices are all astronomical, absolutely impractical .. These academies operate with the tuitions of rich students, not poor talented people. A sad reality, but a reallity non the less.
But just as it is, the courses are unbelievable and supreme, i wish i could have the money to go there. Impossible.
no you dont... Honestly what most people dont understand is no matter the quality of the school you go to. At the end of the day you are still educating yourself. Teachers only find the material and provide it to you and give you shortcuts by answering questions directly and demonstrating but at the end of the day you inside your own brain put that knowledge together and put it into practice. If you dont have the money you can model your education that you do at home after an atelier. THats what I did. I spent 6 years doing cast drawing at home, moving to a limited palette of color eventually and doing still life etc. When I saved up enough I attended gage academy for a couple semesters so i could ask teachers questions and get info. Now im a professional artist who makes a really good living doing what I love and I know several artists who spent big bucks going to academy's and they work minimum wage jobs now.
I would actually say I personally see a huge problem with these academy's because many people who are drawn to realism tend to be so structured and regimented in personality so much so that they cant break away from this academic training when they leave. It just becomes ingrained in them. and now we are seeing in the galleries that i work with hundreds of artists here in the states painting identical looking academic figure paintings with no real life of the artist in them. You are better off working your ass off and teaching yourself and attending workshops from artists you admire while doing master studies of your own. You are more likely to develop your own voice.
You should definitely offer online courses.
As a teen, I always wanted to go do Hogwarts. Now, as an adult, I want to go to AAA! This is my new Hogwarts =P
I'd love to go here
Win the lottery first ;)
Oh boy... what would I do to be able to attend that academy. Maybe one day when financial pressure is not as hard as it is right now and when my kids are grown up...
Cesar Santos!
I wish I could go, but EUR 12,000/year + expenses is just...
That's actually not too bad among art institutes and ateliers, start saving up for the greater good my friend!
It's for rich people and students that have parents or familly that can support them in this cumbaia life style in Florence, NOT for the gifted student that is poor and only can afford the tuition of the Art school in their town that just teaches conceptual art and only to act and think as a modern artist but don't teach art or technique ( i know, i studied in one and i am a professor of restoration of works of art pissed of with the status of the art institutes in general and the lack of clasical training in all of them ) .
this classical Academies like Angel are an utopia for 99 % of people, is just for rich people that like to paint and have money to spend. César Santos didn't studied there for free you know, he had to go and have someone to pay for his studies in full wille he lived the cumbaia lifestyle of aa art student in Floirence that now talks about it with pride in CZcams. The rest of the world can't afford that luxury, even if one is more naturally gifted that someone that goes there.
Sad but anyway...
Yes actually 13.500
Can i start to use oil paint at first year? I can only afford 1 year to study here and i want to learn mainly the oil paint techniques. Which year oil paint starts at the school? Thanks.
They offer workshops for working in oil if they do not offer to study one specific year i would reccomend practicing at home with graphite by copying bargue drawings there are many instruction videos out there in YT and i would reccomend Stephen Bauman's patreon page its only 10$ you can learn to work with graphite and oil , work in graphite and charcoal at least 1 year and then do some workshops in florence at Angel Academy
Can a student spend more time in the academy after the 3 year program to specialize more in portrait and figure painting ??
but how does one learn to draw/paint a subject a third bigger or smaller or much larger or much smaller?
Do they have an online course?
I live in the U.S.and have a family and I would love to attend but,who has money to move to Italy,get a home,pay for supplies and pay them......
Rich people ;)
@@pedrosilvaferreira2562 lol right........
why pay $60,000 to work from a book when you can just buy the book for $60
Charles Bargue: Drawing Course
I gotta say experience is what separates
I’m taking a local Bargue course with an excellent instructor. Trying to copy the plates from the book without an instructor is probably like learning engine repair or neurosurgery from a book, possible but not the most effective or efficient approach.
@@jeffhreid I am an art teacher and i say: You just made a comparison that makes no sense at all just for the sake of commenting.
unfortunately IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE
So true, but the student works do look absolutely amazing. It seems rather convincing of it's value to me at first glance.
@@PHeMoX There are a few good DVDs and books out there that teach the same things.
sylmarmusic2012 learning from experts in any discipline certainly adds something significant from what one can learn though self study.
Who is the statue of @ 2:29?
In this academie you learn to copy exactly.
No, you are learning technique. Look at the people who have finished the Angel Academy, none of them are just copyists.
Photo painting not fine art
his accent is really disturbibg
British.
everyone is photos machine，no artist ，use rule drawing ！
+UFLY ABE What is your best Artists lists? Picasso, Dali....? They ALL studied in the same way...if you don't learn the alphabet you can't write, if you don't learn jazz you can't improvise, if you don't learn physics you can't understand laws of universe, what you see is a knowledge that has been passed down through centuries of wonder and fatigue without interruption.... you still the one who will make the difference and the change only with your konowldge and your imagination...
Don't believe stupids peoples and idiotities of new era, they don't have much things to do in life than criticize...
I stidied at a similar school in Australia. My question to you is 'but IS this the tradition it entirely claims to be?' I'll give you some examples. The Carracci Academy in Bologna, look at the variety of styles the famous pupils there produced ie Guido Reni, Lanfranco, Domenichino etc EVEN their student work does not look entirely the same. While in this video students produce THE SAME still life THE SAME figure study. Its really the other extreme of hyper subjectivity in the arts today ie an aesthetic of POSITIVISM not unlike Meiss Van der Roe in architecture. Education SHOULD be intensely systematic agreed but this is mechanistic and as Vasari said of the Quattrocento DRY!!!
Let's see your work,no I don't have to see your work. I can just log on to deviantart and scroll the terrible manga/anime/unicorn art and I'm sure you'll be in there.
dont be rude
Photos, scanners, computers and so on are the only way to create 100 per cent accurate art, rule use is also important.
All real artists find their own solutions. They don't need this way to throw their money down the drain.