Have Red Bull Been Caught CHEATING Using An ILLEGAL CAR?!
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- According to some rumours, Red Bull have allegedly been caught cheating with illegal parts in their car, which have now been banned by the FIA, and this is potentially why they have looked so poor recently.
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Nah, I'm broke
If this is proved they should be stripped entirely of their wdc championship titles
How about Ferrari as well then? Or how about Mercedes? Or how about mclaren? They’ve all been cheating previously too, so should we strip them of their titles also? Or just red bull cuz it fits ur narrative?
@@sammoore3687 okay genius what did Ferrari win or did McLaren win an how were Mercedes cheating who’s narrative is the one that we should look at?
Spy-gate for McLaren, Ferrari were caught before they went too far, this system much like DAS helps the car breaking and turning this doesn't mean they cheated, it's innovation and F1 stops it as other teams complain@@badgical640
Interesting. At COTA in 2019, Verstappen said in response to Ferrari's sudden lack of performance "that's what happens when you're no longer cheating". Guess we can say the same now.
But today it is about redbull okee budy
No, you can't say that, FIA always protect the kids in the kindergarden, you can't pinish the childish kids! (For some reason it's always ok, if it's made by Verstappen, even if others got penalty for the same..)
@@somaliano99kingkonghimself75 WHOOSH!! Oh, you didn't even hear it.... "buddy".
For F’sake I hope you’re right.
I was thinking the same thing.
Max and RedBull all they know is cheating super simple 😂😂😂😂
What about Mercedes and Ferrari and all there yrs at the top? Wouldn't you suspect something there 2. I think they should all go 2 pretty race inspections and those not in complaints should be disqualified and put in back in order back of the pack.
Totally agree with all of this, the Fia have dug a big hole for themselves since 2021, they must come clean and admitt they knewn RB were cheating, shame on them.
Lewis got screwed not just by Red Bull he got screwed by F1 in general.
FIA doesn't want a man of color being the best driver of all time. He was robbed from his 8th title.
And his own team smh🤦🏽♂️
@@onlyjoking73 Especially Wolff
Facts
9 time champ., Ferrari should have a total of 10 championships driving for them next year.
I’ve suspected all along that they were doing something “dodgy”. And I don’t trust the head of the FIA at all. And I think it’s more than just a few parts that are illegal. The performance difference in the last three years between Red Bull and the rest of the field is very suspicious, not to mention the injustice of the final race of the 2021 season. That championship should have been awarded to Hamilton. I also suspect that this may be the reason that Adrian Newey is leaving.
Well Mercedes had a rocketship to give Hamilton 7 titles. Thats also suspicious?
@joopvintcent3537 no they didn't. Shut up
Fia colluded with redbull to cheat lewis. Hamilton in 2021 verstappen is dangerous as hes proved against norris and Hamilton trying take them out illegally and deny them a result This smacks of Micheal Schumachers tactics against Damon Hill the Fia did jack all then and is taking a too lenient stance now
So if hamilton won it was due to him crashing max in silverstone that was much worse than the shumi vs hill crash and the fia culluding with RB really?
YES! This is exactly why the FIA changed their regulations 3 times in 2021, at Mercedees request, specifically to slow Red Bull down. It was actually a massive conspiracy to help Red Bull win, by making them slower! SMH I honestly don't know how people can be so brain dead.
Michael Massi, made a stupid call, and I don't think we'll ever know his full reasoning for it. It is also worth noting, that the FIA fired him for it.
You still don't accept that Verstappen turned in on Hamilton in an attempt to push him into the wall! The proof is out there! Just doesn't fit your narrative! Crashstappen! He earned the title and has proved it many times over! @Querientje
Nothing would make me happier!
What a sad little life u live
Latest rumour is FIA have declared that they found an illegal RB braking sytem which gave Max an unfair advantage.
Been saying this for a while now, there’s no way they would drop off that much or the other teams would up so much in such a short amount of time
All they know is cheating
Agree. Once it's proven, take away the RB championships and give them (multiple "them") to the next driver and team in line.
@@VegasMikeP229 They won't strip the titles, unfortunately. The 2021 championship just proved how corrupt the F1 administration has become, and how worse it went from 2022 onward when Mohammed Ben Sulayem entered the scene. Prior to it he already had a very dissonant voice and a clear schizophrenic behavior towards Lewis Hamilton, always spewing nonsense about his the driver's lifestyle, or what clothes he was wearing, or what jewes (and also seen multiple times wiggling his tail to Jos Verstappen and giving death stares at any of Verstappen rivals, to a point where he was recorded by the Netflix crew talking shit about Hamilton directly to Jos while both were staring at the guy who just passed by them, not knowing they were in front of a camera). The "system" is clearly rigged to benefit the "catfish" guy.
Nothing would surprise me if in the next races "they" decide to repeat the pattern stablished in Brazil 2021: shut down every onboard camera from every car in front of "catfish" whenever he's about to divebomb and toss the competitor out of track, so there's no proof of felony to contest about.
@@VegasMikeP229hope u said the same about ferrari, Mercedes and mclaren when they were cheating…
If this is true...wow.......this also illustrates how good Hamilton is.
People who said he's overated or washed don't understand F1
Just look at his junior career
Also, as a Rookie, he matched a generational talent in Alonso.
He earned his spot at the big team
And those who have attacked his qualifying pace of late are doing a disservice to George Russell
New fans, fanboys, and recency bias are to blame for the negative narrative around Hamilton
If you know the sport, nothing Redbull has been doing positive or negative changes the fact that Lewis has and always will be one of the greats
I mean if red bull cheating how tf mclaren somehow outclass them 😂
@ChoCho-db4zo Re watch the video. It seems you've missed something.
I thought its all about the car lol
Didn’t Lewis win in 2 illegal cars? Due to spygate and the illegal tyre testing?
YES, their car is now behaving like the formula has been changed and it hasn't, so YES again, They are CHEATING.
Or maybe they were so far ahead of other teams and now the other teams have caught up
Confirmation that Red Bull has been cheating for the last three years and that the FIA has been covering for them would be the least surprising development, ever.
Jumping to conclusions much…
I can only imagine how McLaren might feel if Lando loses out to Max by 6 points at the end of the season.
hell yeahh the car is much slower and there is rumors that FIA and other team findout and FIA asked them to change... so yeahh something def off
They are always suspect of cheating but somehow escapes it.
Here me out then…. It’s cuz they’re not cheating
I get by with a little help from my friends...oooh! I get by with a little help from my friends...
Then Hamilton is 2023 world champion??
Yep 100%
Only if you take away, the points that red bull I’ve got for the legal car
@@badgical640Spelt 'illegal' wrong, bro..
If this is a conspiracy to conceal RB’s cheating in efforts to deny LH of a 8th championship, it’s obvious how f’d up that would be! The truth will eventually surface. Right now this is all speculation and should be treated as such until facts are produced substantiating these allegations. I’m no RB or Max fan but I believe in due process, innocent until proven otherwise.
I hear you...but generally where there is smoke, there is fire. Too many variables have occurred to confirm this theory. Newey departs and suddenly there are performance issues, and Max's driving skills are comparable to a driver with bowling balls for hands.....RB in some form has contorted the rules.
@@mikehammer1777 you're just kidding...MV is the best driver
If the FIA were to police themselves. Hamilton would be a 9 times world champion.
2012 "lewis, what happened in 2007"
"Now I know, but I am not allowed to talk about it"
Red Bull in spotlight…. Standard response attempt to deflect or troll about another team or driver
Lewis was gonna lose that championship, for the future ratings money. Max had to win for money. Just like Lakeiprs had to win for rating when big broadcasting money got involved in the NBA.
That's what happens when you stop cheating. I believe RB cheating won't stop. FIA will always favour them. There's doggy things happening
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who sees RB preferences given by the FIA.
Woof!
Interesting twist. I'd say "according to some rumours" it's rather: That's what happens when a mid field team like McLaren which was literally nowhere for ages starts cheating... There's doggy things happening...
@@Tha-King-Arthurdude, it is forbidden to tell lewis fans the truth.
🤡 regulations changed and Mercs didn't nail their new car.
RB was the ones that went over the cap and punished symbolically. So who is the cheater again?
This coupled with the Engine freeze no one discusses anymore are the culprits... This sport is on life support
...and yet you are here 😂😂😂
record crowds at all venues would suggest otherwise
So... by both accounts... I cannot be here to state the legitimacy of the sport is gone... always someone that wants to confuse money with actual sport... if we are only worried about views and money, let them continue to wreck into each other. Stop it
@@alansmith7121 ...and yet you are still here 🤣🤣🤣
@@Phone-gz2igget lost
I have heard many talk about pending departure of Perez from RB mid-season,, but they forgot about the Piquet's crash-gate. RB better be careful the way they handle Perez.
Perez has been treated abysmally. He should spill the beans to repay such treatment.
LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM STILL LEWIS HAMILTON IS THE KING 🤴 OF FORMEL1 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
...I loved Lewis until he went woke, now I can't stand him!!!
The woke king
@@n.vandenbrand4343 🤣🤣🤣
Queen Hamilton
I have suspected red bull to be cheating for a few years now and I thought it was to do with Honda as they did something to that newly designed engine to wind it up giving more power than any other engine could cope with but from what I have learned some illegal parts were fitted which the FIA have banned .this must be put out in the open as it would drastically affect red bull losing their championships and rightfully given back to both Lewis Hamilton and Charles leclerk .
I said it years ago that Red Bull was cheating. There is absolutely no question in my mind. Max is not a real champion. He has had an easy run of things over the past few years, however the moment there is competition, he crumbles like he did in Hungary and Austria before that.
How are they cheating? Because they were fast and not any more?
Could it be that their design has just hit its ceiling before the others?
Tbh there probably isnt a car on the grid that is 100% legal or are in grey areas... but there has to be some evidence of cheating before we can point the finger; ie Ferrari and the FIA's NDA fiasco?
This video contains nothing of any substance.
bandwagon found
@@paulhope3401 how does a car go from being 30 seconds ahead of all the other cars then suddenly its not anymore it struggles with steering and stuff yeah i know newey is a god but theres only so much he can do either way if they are cheating they should face punishment or even banned from competeing in the case if its been over the alst 3 years but theres no point in arguing because we will never know unless someone speaks out or the fia say something which they prob wont cause it will end the sport all together i do think this video has some substance because you have to look at it for what it is and start asking the questions of what the hell happened how have RB gone from being so far ahead to being behind
Yeah and have beennsaying merc was cheating for years but Fia covered up everything,there you go your opinion is worth as much as mine,ZERO...
They're not even that behind lmao, people blowing this out of proportion with silly arguments. They can't always be perfect unless that's what you wanted to see cause then we wouldn't be experiencing the shift in competition we are at now with McLaren finally having caught up, there are also 11races to go so you guys should hold your breath, sighhh@@HunterXTwitch
Do you remember last year at Spa how red bull protected their floor by taking the dip slowly lol
Horner’s personal and professional life is heavily influenced by cheating
He's a snake ...not just at work but at home too..treats his wife and neighbours with the same contempt as he does with racing
I quit watching F1 after that final race debacle in 2021 where the FIA did everything needed to ensure that Max could beat Lewis, even though Lewis was clearly faster. Ironically, the recent race at SPA was the first I have followed since then. It was aggravating to see Mercedes stifling Lewis in favor of George. The final turn of Karma when George was disqualified was sweet.
I completely agree Dave, but aren't we going too far into the future with the year, bro?!
@@a.m.armstrong8354 Lol. I fixed it. Changed 2121 to 2021.
Is this why AN is leaving?
that's the ? 👍🏻
Nah i doubt it but maybe he was the one who tipped off the fia after redbull treating him like crap. It would be strange if they've been doing this for a couple of years for the fia to suddenly discover it the very week that Newey leaves redbull and all that toxic drama that was happening in the team at the time. Obviously redbull was passing scrutineering for a long time so i'd like to know what suddenly changed and led to them discovering this, if it's true.
@@braveheart4603Probably AN left because he was involved in the cheating and was found guilty.
@@braveheart4603 ? why would AN want to leave a ' suck...sfull team ' & start again with an unknown!!!
Adrian the genius ' the genius ' that every other teams design have SOMEHOW all mysteriously forgotten since new REG...it's unbelievable bcase is unbelievable.
Why are Rb decisions been kept secret!!!!...
twat CH scandal!!! illegal car .. michael.m
and nothing is disclosed ...why
Nothing is legitimate or true about this entire operation ( it's certainly not a F1 racing team ) ...
Lance Armstrong was stripped of all titles because of cheating ....
why are we not seeing any legal / independent.!!!! investigation into any of this 💩.....
They just been exposed using a valve on the rear axle for asymmetric braking which has suddenly been outlawed mid-season by the FIA. They could have been using the system for multiple seasons prior and should be disqualified for those championships.
Already proven, that Mercedes engines in 2014 to 2020 had 200+ horse power over everyone else.Let us take some WDC championship titles
If it can be proven that Red Bull, have been cheating then they should be stripped of their constructors and drivers championships, Which I doubt would ever happen because Max, has been their golden boy since he came into F1.
I totally agree and Hamilton deserves to be a 9 time champion
They cheated with the budget cap and the next car dominated 🤦🏻♂️🤪 they have benifitted from breaking rules in the past and getting a slap on the wrist
Driver championship? Absolutely not . Because if that happened, wouldn’t McLaren’s drivers in 2007 have to be disqualified too?
Only one who was caught cheating is Ferrari and Mercedes,so shut up....
@@gabe5819 I think that is too far back to worry about that 17 years vs 1
If there car last year was against regulations aswell, Imagine RB getting RIGHTFULLY disqualified and Hamilton winning the WDC and WCC based on coming 3rd last year behind the RBs
Adrian Newey is so good at what he does that having him as a part of a team seems like cheating
Nicely put
Except he wasn't so good until the regulation changes came in for 2022 season, bro..
F1 / FIA are spineless, more chance of Russia joining the EU than a penalty for RB
By that logic, Mercedes having a significant drop off in performance from 2021 and on, must be proof they were cheating before that, right? RIGHT? XD
Mercedes drop of performance was due to regulation change mate an porpoising back in 2022
No. Mercedes did not interpret the regulations or understand the new car properly so they had crap cars in 2022 and 2024. Mercedes and Sir Lewis Hamilton were totally and absolutely screwed and cheated in 202@.
Jesus!!! Mercedes drop from 2021 because FIA changes the rules, eliminating the hybrid engine.
No car has ever dominated the field in the way the RB has in 2022-23
@utahni I don't think you understand how logic works, bro..
Lots of speculation, it may be just that Newey is that much a car design and setup guru for ground effect... That said the way RB have been acting is suspicious in the extreme, and did already get caught cheating the budget cap, so I wouldn't be shocked. At which point some hefty legal fees and fines for them to pay before ejecting them from the sport...
All F1 teams cheat or try to. The interpretation of the rules is taken to the extreme, that's part of the appeal of F1
@@andrewgurney6019 There is cheating and creative loophole finding - the F-duct for instance was genius, get the benefit of moveable aerodynamic devices and yet have no moving parts so it is 'legal' and sparked some great debate, some rapid engineering developments and was part of the right sort of drama you expect in F1. Allowed or Banned once the teams start arguing it out with the FIA it was in that grey area where the spirit of the regulations is perhaps a little busted but the letter of the law...
And more importantly it was done openly and quickly. Unlike say the RB budget cap that dragged on for eons behind closed doors, or the Ferrari engine stuff from some years ago now - That is drama sure, but the wrong kind that tarnishes the integrity of the sport - it isn't being smarter or faster than your opponent it is just deliberate completely unsporting cheating (well probably at least).
Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest. FIA and RB for sure in bed together
We live in hope that the truth comes out 🤞
I can tell you for free. Redbull is definately cheating. Thats pretty obvious. Max car is 20km faster than all the cars on the grid including Perez. His car is definately different to Perez. if not then let them swap cars...I want to see something.
I'm no fan of Max Verstappen, but it seems this entire article is just 'I have no evidence just some random speculation that Red Bull cheated at the start of the year based mainly on the fact that other teams have caught them up. Now I'm going to project that random speculation back 3 years and say they cheated for all their championship wins. Worst kind of clickbait tittle-tattle.
If Red Bull was cheating then full disclosure is required.
They cheat but FIA will cover like they did when ferrari cheated , that way they don’t lose the fans . its all about the money for the FIA, not fair racing anymore
The FIA must check the RB cars properly - there is also a big. Difference in power hp between checko's car and verstapens car - a dino test will prove it
dont yall think they would have found these parts in 2022/23 at some point? This is even coming from a lewis fan. If the parts were illegal they would have found them way earlier
To find something hidden in a complex system, you first have to be looking for it.
@@vsmicerReply of the day!
If this is true, shame on Red Bull. Lewis Hamilton should have 2 more championships and Charles LeClerc have one.
Every F1 team looks for loopholes in the rules to get advantage over the competitors. Newey his own words. Ferrari with their fuel metering system few years ago and flexible wings etc. I think their new design of the car backfired. Anyways, it makes this season way more entertaining 🎉
I knew there was something dodgy about that car all along.
Lewis is a bigger GOAT than we are aware of. Maybe they (redbull) are aware and have removed the cheat parts and the performance has gone back to what it should always have been, hence the last few races they have performed worse than McLaren and Mercedes.
FIA and Liberty are now tired of Max and RB. They are not happy anymore with the loss of revenue and downward spiral of F1 since 2021. Almost all of the fandom except the orange army like Max. They know only time will come when the revenue plummets and the integrity of F1 will reach a point of no return if stays the same. Silverstone can't fill the seats. No one to blame but Wheatley, Horner, and Masi manipulation of AD 2021. Do SKY, FIA, Liberty believe that they can change the minds of real fans on what happened in 2021. Its been three years already and it has not worked one bit. They can gaslight till the end of time, and it will never change the facts in people's minds. They ruined a sport.
Don't forget the Sheikh...did I spell fixer right?
@@a.m.armstrong8354 Yeah lets not forget him too. Yeah spelled fixer right!
Why is everything hush when it comes to RB and the FIA? Illegal parts, no penalty for Max for causing a collision. Absolute joke what F1 has become
Red bull 🐂 must go
Why cheating in 2021? lol That was all FIA, that mess.
Cost cap dummy
I'm no Red Bull or Verstappen fan - but where's your evidence? All this is nonsense until you prove it.
What explains RB performance falling off a cliff, bro?
I asked myself 'How can a 'coca cola' team suddenly become such a dominant entity in sport which has been the domain of such classic F1 teams for decades ? When Lotus, Ford, Jaguar have not achieved this ? Cheating has been and will always be the key to success, for a limited time.
I've been saying for years, there using some form of active suspension, I'm sure of it
This guys voice makes me think I'm watching a nature video/f1 mash-up. "The Red Bull can be seen stalking a mclearan near the water hole while a near-by mercedes patiently waits its turn, unnoticed in the mangroves..."
A team wins a championship by a new rule made in the last lap of the final race of the season
The exceeded the amount allowed
They get punished
They dominate the sport for the next 2..5 years
Plot twist.... the real reason Adrian Newey left redbull was because he had realised that redbull was cheating and knew shit was about to hit the fan.
Apparently he's on gardening leave, so RBR knew what he knew.
My guess is that the parts in question are all related tobth car's suspension. During 2022 preseason Red Bull was struggling with the porpoising phenomenon same as all the other teams. Within the first couple of races all of their porpoising issues were solved with a suspension system that Mohammed Bin Sulayem publicly labeled "legal" and "genius."This ingenious suspension system fully eliminated any need to rely on down force to dampen out porpoising...that left them with the full straight-line speed of the car. Earlier this years I heard a F1 commentator attributing Red Bull's great succces to the suspension system designed by Adrian Newey. Nice name drop but Adrian Newey is not a mechanical engineer. So Adrian Newey designed a device in the first few week of 2022 has hasn't been matchable any of the real mechanical engineers on the grid, to this day? What it looks like is that the FIA allowed Red Bull to use an active suspension system.
Red Bull would definitely be the face if this crime, but they would've been able to do any of it without a compliant partner....the FIA. Someone is evidently forcing the FIA's hand, because the FIA's would be inclined to totally escape notice. The FIA is the one responsible to inspect all car to ensure thatvthey are legal. I say that Red Bull use active suspension and the FIA know about at the start. It should be a very interesting second half of the season as more questions are answered.
I stopped watching after 2021. I had been an avid fan watching from 1979-80 until 2021. But when the FIA can decide who wins the world championship by breaking it's own rules, F1, as a sport becomes a nothing, a farce. It's like a 12 round boxing match where one boxer wins every round on points as far as everyone believes, but the judges give the win to the other guy. It's BS!±
Boo hoo, get over it and grow up.
I'm new to f1, can you explain me how the rule was broken?
@@affinity44 the rule is, if lewis Hamilton didn't win, everyone else cheated.
@@petergijsbrechts5154 oh shut up man, if you don't have a real answer, don't even try to answer me ffs
@@affinity44Basically Micheal Masi (The race director in 2021) decided to unlap 5 cars between Hamilton and Verstappen even though he wasn’t supposed to. As a result this caused Verstappen to be right next to Hamilton before the restart. That too Verstappen had pitted for new tyres as there was a safety car. As they started racing again Verstappen overtook Hamilton and basically took the championship. If the cars stayed lapped between them it most likely would’ve given Hamilton the win. So that’s why it’s very controversial.
If Red Bull can't ride the kerbs and bumps like it used to it would suggest something with mass damper, heave damper or they found a loop hole to bring engine re-mapping to the Hybrid engines? Tinkered about with the Petrols HP to increase output, probably not straight forward with the Hybrids, but engine mapping is something that won Red Bull a championship in 2013.
I guess we need to go back to when merc got a head start on the regulations in 2014 due to someone joining their team with imp info which allowed them to get a head start on dev way before the others on the engine... look what that led us to.
Then they did not give customer teams the same engine maps they used, which led to lower power for everyone else who used merc engines this was apparent when grojean in the lotus was allowed to use it to beat vettel in the ferrari to 3rd place...they were told never to use that mapping again.
Yup Mercedes purposefully detuned their engines in the early regulations to make the gap not seem that huge
could it be that the others just improved a lot more...
No, the RB performance plummeted.
Feels like 2 + 2 = 5 nothing solid (yet) to prove your theory. Enough staff have mixed from RB to other teams. I feel this would have come up sooner.
Not just a case of cheating, it’s also fraud. Substantial sums of money were paid to top tier teams for the constructors placings over the past three years. Drivers get performance bonuses and so on. Sponsors pay higher sponsorship fees for winning teams. This should be treated as a criminal matter by the authorities and not some internal eyebrow raising by the FIA. The whole thing stinks.
I had a suspicion that the RB was using a traction control system keeping the rear end stable, some onboards of Max you can see he has his foot flat to the floor then the revs would dip randomly as the rear breaks traction, at Australia the rear brake sticking on is a somewhat common issue with traction control computer software
All the toxic Netflix casuals in the comments are hilariously clueless. 🤣
Great channel keep going
This is why I like this Chanel - you say things that the other so called F1 journalists shy away from. You could also add Perez’s drop in form. The car has changed hence his struggles. My original guess was that the FIA had throttled them to spice up the show, but Max’s performance last begs the question as to what is actually going on.
I had this theory back in. 2022 maybe even 2021 after Lewis was robbed. And I said in years to come I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out redbull was cheating. Because their pace is just insane
honestly it may bring more attetntion to the sport for people who just want drama
PS I was there in COTA sitting on the main straight for the 2019 Ferrari Drop Off. LeClerc looked like he was driving a tractor compared to the other top cars that year
Thanks for the donation 👌, and yeah, Ferrari's engine in 2019 and 2020 post drop off was incredibly slow
Gosh, I guess it's not "cheating" when the FIA allows them to do it for year after year after year. After year.
Not to mention when they got caught cooking their tyres all night so that they would pass the pressure test and then run their tyres underinflated during the race to give them better grip! They got caught after Verstappen's tyre exploded in the Azerbaijan 2021 race and nothing happened to them! It even led to a rule change!
Stroll has alot to do with the RB success but since the bromance with max ended so has the help, not a coincidence max is struggling to setul the car without lances imput , hope they patch things up soon ,
Cheating or not surely credit to all the other teams for finally progressing thier cars to get near red bull.
Its funny because same speculation has been around during Mercs 7 years of dominance. And that was gone too out of nowhere and they were behind.
And lets not forget that Ferrari was CAUGHT cheating. Yet their wins that season didnt get taken back.
All this speculation is just to spread hatred. Why else would they not mention that there are very much also speculations against Merc and Mclaren as they didnt just caught up with RB, they past them. Within not even half a season.
So the question now is perez car was it alao cheating dont think so and that would explain why he is slow
If redbull is found guilty of cheating they should be stripped of all titles and fined heavily.
Red Bull and cheating go together like a key in a lock.
That will never happen
I hope these are all proven to be true and they are disqualified and there champions are stripped. But knowing the fia they wont say anything just to keep a good record
Red are sponsored by the FIA
I’m not surprised hearing about Red Bull. Been cheating for four seasons now and FIA has been doing a horrible job police in the rules of F1. I still don’t understand how they’ve been getting away with cheating for four seasons now is this wow incompetence sport right now wow.🤦🏾♂️😑🙂↔️🙂↕️💯💯
It would be interesting to have all the cars the same and it just being down to the skill of the driver.
There is still the factor of the men and women in the box. The mechanics, engineers, tyre engineer. The tyre engineers, for example. Some are better than others at assisting the driver and mechanics. You can see this in motogp. If you get the best tyre engineer from whoever the supplier is currently... you can have a SMALL edge
@@FRFM00 Fair point, perhaps I should change it to the driver and the team behind him. I still think it would make for some interesting racing.
This can be fixed by letting teams see the drawings submitted to FIA. Its not right they can hide something from teams and officals
This coming from a fan of a driver that ran an illegal wing..
But if the parts were illegal (there is at the moment no proof for it, maybe time will tell), is their any clue/proof that these parts were on the ‘22 and ‘23 car as well?
You can't say there is no proof, if the FIA is doing all this behind closed doors. All you can claim is that there is no public proof.
If my aunty had balls , she would have been my uncle. One journalist creates a hypothesis with no evidence to back it up versus both FIA and Red Bull being corrupt. Anything is possible, but I prefer evidence before jumping to conclusions. They state themselves that the margin the competition gained is 3 times higher than the margin RB dropped. The issue that make Verstappen marginally slower is the inability to rotate the car. That is not caused by engine, but by poor balance.
If your auntie had balls, your uncle kept it secret, bro..
I said a long time ago there was something up with their car. Originally, I thought they somehow they had made a hybrid car with an electric motor
"If you're not cheating, you're not trying."
.-Lewis Hamilton
Was Lewis referencing Red Bull at the time? Yes. But is there also a nugget of truth in there stating that all teams basically try and bend the rules to win? Absolutely also yes.
EVERY team that has had continued success in F1 for any decent period was winning because they were pushing the limits of the rules. Not one team is above it. I'm not saying Red Bull isn't cheating for sure, there just hasn't been anything concrete released publicly. I'm just saying all successful teams do it. It's just a sport. It's entertainment. Enjoy the mayhem.
The spice is keeping the sport alive.
Either way, innocent until proven guilty..
Everything you just said makes clear as day sense, IMO, It seems pretty obvious to me , especially when you understand the complaints of the driver and where Perez finds himself..(10th to 18th)in a recently dominant RED BULL🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
If true, it's bigger than Max. To much focus on him. He may not of known.
It wouldnt surprise me if they had something akin to active ride and now its banned they cannot ride the kerbs at all unlike the last couple of years.
Newey has gone because he was in charge of 'the car'! Why will he be allowed back into F1 is another question?
If RB are innocent and the FIA were not involved in any Cover up then why are the FIA doing their enquire behind closed doors, was their Mantra that the whole Organisation going too be Transparent in their dealings?
I've heard these rumors.
To be clear, I don't like Max or CH but I have a different take on these accusations.
Maybe their car was illegal this year, but to say the other previous years are fraudulent is to suggest that Adrian Newey is a no-talent cheater. (I'm not buying it)
FWIW i draw a line between finding a loophole in a regulation and outright cheating. I can go back quite a way in F1 where a loophole, or even innovation, e.g. Dual Axis Steering, Double Diffusers were deemed legal but outlawed the following season or something like the Brabam 'FanCar' were legal then rules updated to make them illegal during the same season.
What seems to be different in my mind is the newer ownership and their strategy to increase the global audience, one team winning by a street every race does not help sell the product. When Max was almost hatricking (poll/win/fastest lap) every race weekend the coverage was cut in direct response to the reduction in viewers.
Now we have more drama and jeopardy, F1 ownership is happier and I cant help but feel its a case of follow the money wherever it leads