I Ranked The Top 20 Weapons in Destiny 2 (PvE & PvP)
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Destiny 2 has gone through a ton of various weapon metas since 2017. I wanted to take sort of a screenshot of the current meta in video form as we explore the last season before The Final Shape later this year. We're looking at the 10 best PvE and 10 best PvE weapons.
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0:00 Top 20 Best PvE and PvP Weapons
0:20 PVP #10
0:55 PVE #10
3:29 PVP #9
4:20 PVE #9
5:00 PVP #8
5:45 PVE #8
6:28 PVP #7
7:31 PVE #7
8:12 PVP #6
9:05 PVE #6
9:57 PVP #5
11:00 PVE #5
11:32 PVP #4
12:12 PVE #4
12:42 PVP #3
13:50 PVE #3
14:18 PVP #2
15:06 PVE #2
15:55 PVP #1
16:58 PVE #1 - Hry
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I legit laughed so loud (17:10), bungie finally fixed that
Apex Predator has never looked so good
It was pretty good. I want him to draw other guns 😂
Yeah… anyways what’s up with it not showing up in the preview?
Crux Termination > Apex
@@ValiantNomadfor real?
@@vipset87 Yeah. Slideshot and either explosive light or surrounded put out more damage per second than Apex. You just gotta be able to utilize slideshot. I personally pair it with rain of fire on my warlock and shoot, slide, shoot, icarus dash, repeat. Works pretty well if you can land your shots. Crux termination is a beast with the right rolls, it's just that it's an unfarmable world drop. Can also roll bipod too if you just want the rocket economy.
I still remember using the cave cheese on Nessus to complete the sunshot and graviton catalysts.
omg same haha
The loot cave area in Cosmodrome is still good for completing catalysts. I’ve completed many exotics there
@@FAUXCUSpdOMG SAME
It’s always a good day when PattyCakes uploads
Every so often lol
@@PattycakesGaming All the more reason to appreciate it.
I love that during apex you completely cave in the back of your teammates skull with consecration😂
ay yoo this video was very well put together , amazing job man .
W video patty keep up the good work!
I love your videos! Keep up the great work!
I could never get a decent Mercurial Overreach roll but I do have Mechabre with fluted barrel/accurized/snapshot/opening shot/handling MW as an alternative. It’s a perfect 5/5 sniper roll I love it.
That’s a great one too! Just depends on what zoom you like most
I prefer Mechabre cuz of its frame
@@PattycakesGaming how does the new eye of sol rank among these? just got moving target + opening shot adept roll with high handling last week
@@martincapek96 It's very good too, personally I am still salty about not getting lucky enough to get the original snapshot + opening shot roll. Snipers are basically a personal preference thing as long as they have good perks + decent stats
thanks for the reply :) @@PattycakesGaming
Seeing Pattycakes hit those snipes! 👀
As someone who's played less than 20 gambit games, my bottom dollar with Hammer Forge, Acc Rounds, Rangefinder and Expl Payload is to this day my luckiest drop.
Unending tempest with fragile focus is underrated. Max 88 range with a perfect roll plus fragile focus and moving target is nasty. Fav roll hands down
Under over in tlling you lol under over is nice with fragile or target
Thanks bro
The Apex Predator sketch made me exhale sharply through my nose. I remember it refused to show itself that time. Apex Wuss
Only thing missing from this list was graviton lance to complete the enrgy add clear trifecta for light elements tbh. Its literally sunshot but void and with a lot more range and free overshields. I hate how underrated it is honestly.
I was a big fan of Outbreak, but after I tried Graviton, it made Outbreak look like a joke (except for primary dps).
Graviton is broken atm
9:31 i was into new monarchy cuz i rly liked the alpha lupi ornament
Sweet Business is the pinnacle of Crucible gameplay and you can't change my mind.
4:12 I can't believe you committed the cardinal sin of murdering a man during his revive animation
Fate bringer, zaoulis bane, ammit, nation of beasts and so many good weapons now
It's hard for me to decide between Unending Tempest and Conditional Finality in PvP. I get it, two very different playstyles
what are the arms at 1:28 ? or is that glow a shader.
What shader is on your apex??
nice video. have 3 of the 20 and it nearly makes me want to play D2 again to get the missing ones. but i'm not good enough so i won't
I cant drop conditional finality in pve aswell, its utility is unmatched being able to completely disregard all 3 champion types, plus clutch freezes even on non stasis subclass, and huge on demand damage for bigger targets 🙏
SInce the Chill Clip nerf, Conditional completely replaced Riptide for me. Pretty fun to spam the freeze on a single champion with Rain of Fire skipping the reload lol.
I picked sunshot cat in season 3 too 👊
The positive outlook from vanguard rewards is way better then ammit it can get zen moment and kill clip and 3 more meters of range.
What shader is he using for the matador and rose tho?
Anyone know what exotic he was using with the strand pvp build?
content drought goes crazy
What is the shader that you use
Yeah I grabbed sunshot in red war as well
I'm surprised not seeing Malfeasance in this list.
Glad to know the Apex model not loading isn't just happening to me.
It has been a thing ever since the dawning.
What's the best immortal roll for controller users?
What is the oil slick metal shader you're using on a lot of these weapons?
Iridescent coral
Suros Regime and Matador 64 is my crucible combo
Conditional is only okay in its current state because bubbles dominate trials. Very few things counter bubbles besides supers and having the ability to fight back while there's a bubble on the point is what stops me from wanting it nerfed
What should be on the rose??
Hard to use dragonz breath when polaris lance and sunshot is down right amazing thus season
I chose graviton lance first, sunshot, then sweet business during FR
Shader on that madator?
Man, I’m so tired of using conditional bro, but nothing can do what it does.
Had to put my phone in a tin coffee can just to hear you 😅
Friend, what is that shader you’re using on your weapons?
Mostly iridescent coral
I *need* that Apex Predator skin
Another perk of using thorn-the damage ticks let you know where they are!
Yes I should have mentioned this too! It’s a massive benefit
anemic sway reduction?
I'd say a good stand in for igneous hammer is targeted redaction. I have mine with enhanced keep away and well rounded and it feels incredibly snappy. You can also craft it with explosive payload to push that range out even further and to help flinch your opponent even more in a duel.
That’s the Season of the Deep void 120 right?
@@incitossol Yup!
I remember trying that one and it was awful but it was before I got used to Igneous too. I might give it another go and see if I can make it work now. Explosive Payload would be kinda cool, might even be better than rose for me.
@@ValiantNomad I've been having a lot of fun with it on strand hunter with well rounded. Give it a shot and let me know what you think about it
@@davidjohnston2212 I will. That base 99 recoil stat though. Yeesh
Is subsistence target lock a good roll for unending tempest?
you probably want Killing wind or moving target, bit subsistence is still good, but not better than the options i mentioned. More important than subsistance is the barrel option, masterwork and, second perk option. You want anything that gives you range as your barrel option, smallbore is a great choice because it also gives stability, accurized rounds for the range bonus, target lock, and a range masterwork. The third column perk already depends on where you plan to use it.
No. You want moving target or DSR as the 3rd column perk
I would say rose and TL fatebringer are tied for the best pvp hand cannon only because fatebringer can roll explosive and eye at the same time. Those in my opinion the best dueling perks in the game
I played back then!
Apparently the new World Drop Arc rocket launcher is even better than Apex. I got both and utilize the element for my subclass. It’s a world drop though, so hopefully you get the Reconstruction/Envious Assassin + Explosive Light roll. People rave about surrounded for the 40% damage effect but you need 3+ enemies to proc, where explosive light just requires an orb of light and can stack to X6 for better Boss dps.
Edit: Rocket Launcher name is Crux Termination IV.
Its worse then apex because no B&S meaning much lower overall damage. Also surrounded is not difficult to proc in most DPS phases allowing for far more overall damage than explosive light (surrounded is 35% on explosion and 40% on impact for rockets).
@@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 tell that to all the new DPS numbers from various CZcamsrs 👍🏽 simple search will show you. Plus it being a Non-Endgame legendary weapon just makes it even better. A prosperity mod and simple strikes playlist and you’ll snatch one up quick. I get about 10+ a week where Apex you have to get lucky from encounters, and more so finding a team who wants to run the raid. Like I said, both are great, but Apex lost the lead for sure in DPS numbers alone.
Edit: czcams.com/video/6XfC1JRHJHA/video.htmlsi=16ocWvm8ra6-NfJK Here is a video with proof that Apex doesn’t slap harder, even in DPS terms.
@@yeyo12345 Bro I never said the DPS of crux is worse, ofc crux has the best DPS of any rocket cus slideshot allows you to hit the fire rate cap on a rocket. No other rocket will even come close to crux for that reason (unless they give us another slideshot aggressive/adaptive).
Buttttt for most encounters in the game apex is still better since its not difficult to get all of your rockets (with B&S procced) off in a damage rotation and will give you higher overall damage then explosive light crux without having to bootyslide all over the well and potentially blow teamates up.
And as much as I like surrounded, its not always consistent during damage phases.
I think most of crux terminations viability comes from things like speedrunning, but for 95% of scenarios most people are still choosing apex for its ease of use and higher overall damage.
EDIT: Also, I wouldn't trust aztecross when it comes to damage testing, his videos often include bias to the weapon he is reviewing (look at his revision zero review for example) and omissions (in the video you sent, he doesn't even include anything like izi swapping with apex) that make other weapons look bad. Aegis and Llama are much better when it comes to things like testing as they have a much more thorough understanding of things like DPS rotations, true damage values etc and their testing never contains bias.
I got conditional first clear
I’m grinding for a godroll rose but I’ll start focusing for a godroll mercurial when I get the rose I’m looking for
So lucky I got one after my placement matches.
Smallbore
Acc rounds
Exp payload
Rapid hit
@@dennisonsdetailing I’m looking for an accurized rounds, slideshot, explosive payload, with a range masterwork
no wish ender? do you even pve?
You should quickly say or put on the screen where to get the weapon. It's because im lazy.
What shader does he use it looks good
iridescent coral iirc
Even though it's not here I'd put Vigilance Wing at the 11th spot. In trials people sleep on this
I think I’m gonna make a follow up video on the most underrated weapons soon. I’ll have to give VW a try, I haven’t used it in a while
@@PattycakesGaming Okay cool, it's decent for catching people off guard as I forgot how much range it has
me using gutshot + cascade point unending tempest for fun, then being called a meta abuser for using unending tempest:
Quick silver not being on here is criminal same with the new bow
polaris lance > sunshot every time at range. Better against champs and infinite ammo
4:30 destiny had a double pump meta??
Can you rank top 10 snipers in pvp?
Bro fer real
Surprised Conditional didn't also get a pve spot given just how good it is at add clear, does respectable sustain damage, and allows you to goof on champions
Yeah but sadly only unstoppables. For whatever reason the freeze effect doesn't count as "slow" for overloads and overload/barrier champs break out of freeze very quickly. Unless you run radiant and can shoot through barriers but still. Might be kinda cool if next artifact has anti-barrier or anti-overload shotguns though to double dip into conditional.
@@ValiantNomad iirc the freeze stunned unstops but i havent played much since week 1 of s23 so i might be misremembering. and it's easy to finish off a barrier when frozen using a rocket.
@@mikealgiers7852 Freeze and ignition both stun unstops, so you don't automatic get the the double anti champ unless you get radiant
@@mikealgiers7852 And also it's rough to do a shotgun-rocket combo fast enough considering you have to get pretty close with conditional to freeze champions in PvE. Especially in higher end content where it takes more effort to freeze them without being instantly 1 shot.
Graviton Lance not sure how that was overlooked. Easily one of the best add clear weapons and intrinsic Vorpal.
If Bungie sped up how long it took for Cosmology to start exploding then I would 100% agree with you. It's otherwise frustrating how much time there is between the corpses flying away, enemies moving in the opposite direction of said corpse, and the corpse finally exploding. :(
How can you make a pvp list without mentioning Ace and crimson?
Personally I prefer Cold Comfort just as it can fire 4 rockets in a row without any damage penalty while also getting a 35% buff
That and Crux Termination. I assume he left them out because they're both RNG rolls and Apex is craftable but who knows.
@@ValiantNomad Probably I also forgot that cold is apart of a frame that has a slightly higher dps and total damage than Apex if I remember correctly same with the Termination rocket you mentioned
Osteo Striga???
Yeah... Constantly evolving.
But... Use hand cannon + shotty/sniper.
Wait Rose sprint speed stacks with moving exotics like Dune? Really?
Mobility doesn't increase sprint speed. Only strafe, walk, crouch-walk, jump height, and slide distance
List doesnt have Lumina, can it even really be considered valid?
Please: top 20 for controller
Funny thing is, Apex is no longer the king of rocket DPS anymore. Crux Termination with surrounded/explosive light and slideshot is better now, just requires you to be a tiny bit good at movement. 130k dps compared to the 85-90k dps of Apex Predator now, and it's a world drop rather than a raid weapon. So expect to see that quickly pop up in the meta now. I'd honestly put it above Apex now.
lol I can’t wait to see the Reddit posts complaining about people sliding in front of them during DPS phases
@@PattycakesGaming New Nezarec meta. 2 rockets for Nezarec, 1 for yourself XD
Season 3? The choice was season 1like during the campaign it was given to by Ikora when she was on titan it was most of ours 1st exotics cause it was a part of the campain
Where is Hawkmoon?
I thought mechurial was the best sniper and I got a god roll of it with 3 thousand pvp kills, but I went back and used beloved for something to do and that sniper hits way more crazy and easy mode headshots. So now I use beloved again as my main but mechurial is still really good all the same just beloved played better in game for me.
Snipers are very feel based imo. It's very largely about preference on what is best. Cloudstrike is definitely a cut above for multi kill potential though
@@2intheampm512 Well yeah but they have different aim assist come angles and stuff too and I got thousands of kills with snipers and just some are way more generous. Cloudstrike yeah is the best because of the exotic perk. As a sniper though Cloudstrike is bad but doing what it can do easily makes it the number 1 for sure.
@@scottparrott5674 Oh for sure I totally agree. I was just saying a lot of it also comes down to zoom and scope preferences
Supremacy is also an outstanding option for a PVP sniper 90 aim assist I personally don't get the hype around conditional finally the only thing it's actually good for is super and Powerplay shutdowns 10 stability - 1.25 Flinch which means it has negative flinch and 4.6m of range it's the shotgun with the least amount of Range in the entire game on par with some rare and uncommon aggressive shotguns when it comes to range stability I don't get why you didn't put or even giving honourable mention to the tarrabah and the huckleberry both have 19.6m of range have above average stats the tarrabah can get down to 0.33ttk and the huckleberry can get to .53 ttk passively just by shooting and down to a .40 ttk with rampage stacked I get the not everyone wants to play with the same guns for years on end but a lot of weapons are still just as good if not better than the so-called meta by no means is just a jab at you as a content creator I love your videos and I respect the grind a lot of people don't actually realise how hard it is I only have love and respect for you brother doing what you do and I'll be here to watch your rise
Conditional has 95 handling which is near pre nerf quickdraw levels of handling on an Aggresive frame shotgun, it also has an intrinsically better pellet spread than all other Aggresive frames so the low range is irrelevant + the shatter/ignition can multikill enemies grouped up. It is not just a bubble and well counter it’s by far the best shotgun in pvp it has 0 weaknesses.
@@warv6552 no weaknesses right OK buddy
@@SIGMA-52 Can you list one? or are you just going to say that
@@warv6552 ikelos 3.0, xenoclast, imperial decree, fortissimo, first in last out, mindbenders ambition, matador 64, found verdict, factathyct and Riiswalker you like me to continue
@warv6552 You're completely correct. And in all honesty it's a bit overtuned, a slight handling speed reduction is probably needed to bring it more in band
Dormammu in strikeforce...
Quicksilver storm is the best primary in the game
Nowhere near
@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 yeah it is or at the very least top 3 best primaries. Let me guess "wish ender is #1"
@@gabrieltorres6633 Not even top 3, there are sooooo many other primaries in the game that are way better then quicksilver. There is no point in ever using quicksilver when sunshot, wish ender, graviton, lumina, trinity ghoul, osteo striga etc exist.
@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 LOL you must play mid to low tier only.
Sunshot is goated ill give you that but only cracked this season because of the artifact mods just like polaris. Lumina is not top tier, it gives bonus damage but that's not even used in speed runs. Trinity ghoul is bad in anything legend or higher stop kidding yourself. Osteo is ad clear good but not better. The fact that you can have a stable 720 that creates high damage grenade shots and tangles makes it highly viable in legend higher. You're kidding yourself to think otherwise.
@@gabrieltorres6633 Broski don't assume what content others play or your assumptions will slap you right back in your face. As for the rest of your claims they sound like a load of shit.
Sunshot isn't just good because of the artifact mods like polaris, it synergizes perfectly with solar allowing for empyrean extensions while having some of the best add clear in the game.
Claiming that lumina is not used in speedruns (which I'm fairly sure is just a bullshit claim anyway) means nothing, like when has quicksilver been used in a speedrun? maybe in like 1 or 2 VERY specific situations. It is also still by far the best support weapon in the game being used occasionally in day 1s and also dungeon boss bakes
Trinity ghoul is still absolutely usable in master and gm content, christ it was cracked in my day 1 crota clear on abyss and bridge. Basically all garbage tier enemies outside of cabal still die in one shot to it.
Osteo strigas ad clear is objectively better then quicksilvers, the nerf did practically nothing and it is not even close.
Quicksliver has mediocre add clear and a grenade shot that is completely invalidated by the sheer amount of heavy, special and abilities that we generated nowadays.
Its not a terrible weapon by any means but it is MASSIVLEY overrated by the crowd of people who use it (bad-ok tier players that don't fully understand how special and heavy ammo generation works) because they heard Datto say that its the best gun in the game and now they all use it. Think about it, why is it that you never see any of the top tier players use the weapon? Because it is an incredibly meh weapon that has been overused by people who do not fully understand simple game mechanics and would rather use an easy to use weapon that is just ok, then use a very strong loadout that actually takes investment to get the most out of.
Hello
Conditional isnt really that overpowered lol. I would be fine if they cut the handling a bit, i think thats the only nerf it deserves
I think the fact that Conditional can consistently counter things like bubbles/well while ALSO being a damn good gun is what has made everyone and their mother use it
I would agree. I still think it's fine if it's the best PvP shotgun in the game but the handling is a bit overtuned right now
Dire promise will always be my top 1
Sunshot season 3 FWC shout-out (back before Lakshmi went all Donald Trump)
I dissagre on the nezarec fight, if I, the worst raider to ever raid a raid, can find a lfg group to farm conditional finality and succeed in get it, anyone can (so long it is the featured raid of course), rng is the true gatekeeper of it, I talked to this guy on his 80th try and still not exotic, in fact, after our group disbanded he still didn't have it, God bless his soul.
I got Eyes of tomorrow after 121 tries, never give up 👍
Root is arguably the easiest raid in the game
Boy when we start this games there was a couple of CZcamsrs. We banned because we was good players with Thorn for example & now the game is full with low self esteem PC noobie s there's NO pc player without hack program 99% are use hack programs & 1% is small new kid player's 😂😅
Thank god I didn't see quicksilver storm on this list for pve. Easily the most overrated weapon that has ever been in destiny.
No.
I prefer Sunshot's prettier cousin, Epochal Integration. Insane and doesnt take a exotic slot
Zaoulis bane
pancakes or waffles ?
Pancakes! Easiest question of the day
Shayura and Unending Tempest are SO OVERRATED it's not even funny. They fire too slow, the range is NOT like an AR like everyone claims, you just lose more fights even if hitting all crits as the RPM is too low. Almost every HC or 900 SMG blows you away.
Acrius is not the 5th best weapon in PVE…not even close. Nowhere near!
remove finality from the game tbh
Finality is very controversial, it's really good in PVE for Champs and can be a good damage weapon when you run out of heavy. Sure it's very good in PVP but it can feel pretty inconsistent, it's also the most reliable counter to well and bubble in trials, it definitely has its place in the meta
What is this list, acrius isn’t even in the top 10 exotic heavies, let alone weapons.
Also apex pred is overrated
Man’s is really out here stealing content lmfaoo
PC noob speaks about cheaters & delays & lagging 😂
The game is trash. I would go so far as saying that PvP in this game is unplayable. They should just remove it
Nice aimbot 😂