Why Mercedes Made Twin-Turbo V10 Trucks
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the german law was because they concluded that low power loaded trucks with low speed created more hazardous situations in the roads. So it was to improve safety
Steep inclines on some Autobahn sections are still an issue to this day, for example the A8 from the Karlsruhe triangle to Karlsbad. It is a very challenging uphill section, where you always see trucks going very slowly, some barely over 30 km/h or so. I can only imagine how hard it must have been back in the days with a fully loaded truck without a turbocharged engine. The biggest issue is when more powerful trucks then try to overtake, but they also struggle, and then basically block the road for cars.
@@tobias_k01Thank you to both of you, I always wondered about that law. My uncle who used to drive a truck here in Canada said the same thing as to why some drivers removed their speed governors.
When my grandad was in Germany as occupational forces with the British REME in 1953-56. He drove a Scammell recovery truck. He said, with a tank on the trailer and a tail wind, it only got up to 37kp/h
Just put a tank engine in there. With MTU's 27L V12 with 2740 hp every incline is beaten into submission😂.
@@tobias_k01 Must've been quite a problem that it got an associated word - 'Elefantenrennen' (elephant racing)
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 I am afraid that the German T.u.V. won't allow that on the road, or it will take at least 15 appointments with them (600,- each) to have it in the papers.
Back in the 90s, when I was out on the road with friends, we ended up at a truck meeting at around 1:00 AM. And there was rhis F2000 with the V10 twin turbo and covered in beautiful airbrush art. We were so excited! Then the driver came to us and asked if we wanted to hear the engine. Of course we wanted! As he was reving it for a few minutes, he mentioned that his boss was sleeping in the truck right next to him... It was such an amazing machine and the sound was awesome! I still have pictues of it, on paper, it was the 90s...
I miss the times when truckdriving was a cool job that people looked up to. They should really pay those guys more and give them more freedom.
today: construction sites everywhere and even truck drivers get speed camera shots @@WolfmanDudei think your name should mean "KingofKatzenfutter"
German engineers have created so many different liter engines, so many different configuration such as v6, v8, v10, v12 it is unbelievable.
That's German engineering for you, mate! And those were the true golden days of German engineering.
My dad buy a MAN 19.360 V10 in 1979. I drove it sometimes in closed spaces, I was 14. Beautiful machine with a sound different from each other.
I love how the Scania V8 sounds but i got to admit that V10 sounded pretty good too haha
Have you heard the screaming Jimmys (2-stroke Detroit Diesel)?
@@markdubois4882yeah. Sounds like a cat being screwed over...
@@taomicioli What a steaming pile of BS! I just looked it up, and it's turboed, intercooled with direct injection.
And the Mercedes V8 twin turbo was mean!
Check out the tatra v12s
I hope Scania will continue with the V8. Even if trucks like these are not efficient, we need to them inspire kids into becoming drivers!
They will continue with it and they are just achiving more and more with that platform, with more power and less consumption.
The thing about the trucking industry with more and more big businesses involved it becomes more and more about the economics. If they can buy a vehicle that costs 10-15% less to operate then that is very important.
@@DMSparky the thing is those 700hp+ engines in Scandinavia are hauling 2x the load of a regular truck! In Australia they even haul up to 4x and it means saving on fuel, less drivers needed, much quicker and bigger supplies delivered....
V8 in trucks are a dead end, a 16Liter Inline 6 is better in all practical aspects over a 16L V8
Power and torque isnt an Issue the C18 is rated up to 1150hp and 4500nm of torque
@@renacimientoargentino7515 very nice joke Lol!!!!
I was lucky enough to drive a number of preproduction tour buses (coaches) in 1995 and 1996 (partly because of my mechanical engineering background) and working for a large tour company that had over 150 tour buses in their fleet.
M.A.N, Volvo and a Scania etc.
The brands we offering more horsepower when the coach company was asking for more fuel efficiency and not more horsepower!
One of the preproduction coaches had so much horsepower I could overtake cars with a full load of passengers up the Italian Dolomites but it would overheat all the time and I needed to back off to allow it to cool down.
The eventual fix was to back off the horsepower from 480+ horsepower to 420 horsepower because there was no room to fit a bigger radiator!
Also got to see despite not supposed to be looking at! a few prototypes of new vehicles coming out that because I have not seen them in production that were probably scrapped.
I can’t say the manufacturer as I was sworn to secrecy and not allowed to take photos.
Lucky experience at the time, and ironically I got told off years later for driving one of the first of a new model in the country where I now live because I had not been trained to drive them.
Not knowing that I had driven the preproduction version of the same vehicle!
Like those "secrets" matter almost 30 years later...
@@AKUJIVALDO some of the secrets I saw still don’t exist in production but the biggest problem for me to remember them all is having a severe. Brain Injury has allowed me to forget some of the things that I didn’t want to forget.
But after all I’m still alive
Trucks with V10 or V12 are epic
I did my apprenticeship on many man and Mercedes 6cyl bus motors, turbo and non turbo, intercooled too. Solid flat 6 motor. Individual cylinder heads are great to learn on.
that one slovakian guy doing a burn out in a 7,5t truck lmao
on 6:17 its croatian flag not slovakia
@@ludislavke2976 croatian or slovakia main thing czech republic
@@pommesmayo7336 Ah yes, Croatia is a part of Czechia, indeed.
Great video, in 1996 i drove an 33.604 for Baldwins crane hire ( now Ainscough). She was and still is my favourite unit. At 125 tonnes, she could still climb up gradients of 1in 15 with no problems. Day I drive a FH770 it not got it.
Impressive power
We have a small 7t truck at work that brings 130hp out of a 4,2 liter 4-inline. And it already goes pretty good, i'd love to drive it with this engine x)
Thankyou VR for another fascinating video. Those V10 twin turbo's sound so beautiful.
It's nuts that 500hp was the peak and now it's bare minimum for a semi in Australia.
An Aussie sooped up Volvob wagon driver 🤘🤘
Hell yeah!
Only about a month back I discovered one of my most favourite Volvo 5 cyl turbo drift videos is one of my all time favourite internet videos!
Volvo 5 cyl turbos are one of the sickest most tuffest sounding engines of all time!
That's saying a lot coming from a turbo rotary enthusiast from the Gold Coast!
You want me to share the video dude? I'll friggin share it bro like honorable thing to do!
PS. What truck do ya drive bro specs? Boost pressure? Please share 🤘
@@jameshatton4405 I'm a diesel mechanic so I work on heavy trucks, Scanias, Volvo's, Mercs etc. All fleet stuff so it it's stock.
My Volvo is the 4cyl which is the original style motor in it. It's not that exciting compared to the Swedish 600hp on a stock bottom end stuff.
Nowadays in Europe, you can see 420 or 460hp trucks , but the majority are 500hp and more... But in 1990 having a 400hp Volvo F12 for example was a luxury... Because most of them had 320, 360, 380hp...
40t is in astraulia normally the minimum, not the maximum, even in 90ies. or am i wrong? and the diesel develeopment was a steep climb like a rocket launch. nowadays diesel engines in cars have more hp. per liter than gasoline engines.
@@gato69evoin Brazil you can see trucks with 260hp laden 36tons 😂😂
There is a minimum power to weight requirement in the province of British Columbia, Canada, too...
_Commercial Transport Procedures Manual_
_Chapter 5.0 Specialized Vehicle Size and Weight Guidelines and Permits_
_Section 5.3.6.C. Equipment Requirements_
"i) Truck Tractor:
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c) All truck tractors must feature a maximum gross weight to power ratio of 150 kg per
one horsepower."
That's a minimum of 6.7 horsepower or 5 kW per tonne (1,000 kg), or 6.1 horsepower or 4.5 kW per ton (2,000 lb).
This type of limit is used to keep underpowered trucks from excessively holding up traffic, particularly on uphill highway grades. In the current market this is no longer a concern, as truck owners choose far more power anyway. In Canada a basic tandem-drive tractor and tandem-axle trailer is allowed to weigh up to 39,500 kg; the BC rule would require only 263 horsepower or 196 kW, and no one even sells a Class 8 highway tractor with that little power.
Watching one of those tractor units doing a burnout is like hearing a priest swear. 😅
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The D2840 was a great marine engine. Way smoother idling compared to the V8 with cylinder cutout. It’s a shame MAN doesn’t make a V10 anymore.
A fine engine family! There was also an inline 5. The v10 443ti was also used in military installations. (SA).
I've bought a Mercedes NG 2642 with the OM 423 A engine four years ago. It's combined with an Allison 5-speed-transmission inside a fire fighting truck. I love this machine.
One of the problems of the V10 was the weight, the biggest problem was the non-competitive fuel consumption.
Yes, I read something about the fuel consumption and it was rather non-economic
dae ye know that MAN put the V10 TT also in the TGA Heavy haul version?
the last one must've been sold in 2006/7 when the introduced the new D26 and the D28 V8 in the TGX.
and the Biggest engine Ever going on road in Europe (road legal) was the mighty 48.792 V12 TT
M•A•N even used the 22 liter V12 version in the F8 44.700 heavy haulage truck.
Some of the first trucks I was driving for a living was several MB Actross from the late 90s up to mid 2000's with a v6 or v8 engine.
The v8's was very smooth engines with lots of torque. The v6's had some vibrations, but both the v8 and the v6 was very reliable engines. But they where thirsty and smoked a lot.
The euro6 straight 6 MB truck engines don't sound good at all.
The older OM501 V6 Actros sounds much better than the newer OM47X engines, and the Actros V6 was actually available in certain markets until 2014
I remember back in the late 1980's getting a horseman's couch to work and one of them was a Volvo V10 with 500BHP.
Smooth and powerful. I can imagine what the Mercedes-Benz engines would be like.
Volvo never made a V10 engine nor a V10 powered truck
I was a kid in the 70's and my uncle used to drive a long haul Mercedes 1632 and that sound 4:18 I will never forget.
It was one of the best sounding truck engines without a doubt, only beaten by the Scania V8.
Hino, Mitsubishi, Nissan and Isuzu also built V10 engines, you should check them out.
Oh yeah, that absolute unit of a 30-litre naturally-aspirated from Isuzu...
@@teeteetuu94 I'm curious to know more about that engine as well since I like all things that use internal combustion
@@teeteetuu94The largest displacement production on highway truck engine in the world 10TD1 600PS 2060Nm
@@TheSilverShadow17I have specs, but I can't post photos here it doesn't let me. I'll be happy to share it to you
@@allanwico6314 Sure thing, I'm down to see what you have for specs
I had a setra coach with the natural aspirated v8, just 290hp, bus indestructible. Did 1.8 million kilometers without a single problem, and maybe still runs in africa or somewhere else.
I used to drive a MAN ROADHAUS with the high roof cab it was an amazing truck, I think mine was a 460 hp but it pulled like a train which helped alot seen as I was running to Scotland all the time.
In South Africa, this series were copied and built by Atlantis Diesel Engine, ( ADE) under licence from Mercedes. They were and onto this day, still very popular, reliable and cheap to maintain. We had and have quite a few still in operation, the most common ones were the 422 V8 variants.
It is not a copy when it's built under a license
Unrelated, but I love to hear just about every topic as long as it's in your voice.
Get a room.
Does it fit in a Miata? (asking for a friend)
Sure, but you’ll end up with more engine than miata 🤣
@@venomancer711that is the goal.
you can fit a 27l merlin v12 airplane engine into a car when you have the clue and the money...
At some point in the 1960's, Mercedes and MAN agreed on developing future engine concepts like the following: MAN focusses in inline engines, Mercedes in V-Shape-Engines. MAN 16.256 and 16.320 had V8 and V10 engine blocks supplied by Mercedes, but using a different combustion method (M-Verfahren). Output was 20 mhp per liter here and there. In 1969, Mercedes introduced a new line of engines called the 400 series, ranging from V6 to V20. First trucks were LP series 1626/1632 to 2226/2232, introducing a new tilting cab for LP trucks with V8 or V10 engine. In 1973, NG series was introduced, V6 engines became available, and when Italy 1976 allowed 44 ton GCW mandating 8 PS/ton, even V12 found their way in NG trucks to deliver in excess of 352 PS needed. In 1979, NG 80 trucks were introduced, first turbocharged V8 (1633/2233) and intercooled (1638/2238) NG trucks were available. And to answer the title: In 1983, Mercedes introduced two heavy-duty tractors called 3250 AS/6x6 and 3850 AS/6x6, capable of 250 tons GCW! And these trucks were the first to implement twin-turbo, intercooled V10 engines of 18.3 liter and 500 PS! So that is where this story began, and in 1986, MAN introduced new F90 series, with 19.362 being top of the line. About one year later, new 19.462 was introduced, intercooled V10 twin turbo with 460 PS, 40 less than the quite similar Mercedes engine, and following customer demand, around 1989 the 19.502 was succeeding the 462, available in €1 emissions, later 603 even €2 emissions -
one day, MAN bought Büssing, you can still see their cap designe to the present days...also to fit the engine into the frame of the truck...
they still cherish Büssing, they show the Braunschweiger Löwe/Lion as a hood ornament!
Scania V8:s with a modified exhaust is amazing to hear tho, u can honestly hear the sheer amount of torques going thru the driveline, with every cylinder stroke!
0:53 that honestly looks like the enginedeck of a WW2 tank xD
Gotta love everything pre euro 4🎉 Great big engines that can be tuned! Good thing Scania still uses V8's and do great!
6:19 the most casual Croatian wedding
Thanks Visio, your english has improved again sounds more natural.
The Mercedes Benz Om400 V-shape Series are also available as MTU 183 series! The MTU 12v183 TE94 is the most powerful version available based on the Om400 series : 970kw 1320 HP and 4030nm torque.
The inline 6 siblings of the 400 series (om407/427/447/457) available as MTU 6r183 series and as MAN d2866 d0826.
Also a inline 5 is available as MB Om409/429 or as MAN D2865
MTU 12v183 TE94 in a road legal truck? which transmission is capable for this power? in my opinion. the 48/790 man from felbermayer/austria and the 900hp in the tractomas 5 axle trucks were the most powerful in road legal heavy haulage trucks. yes for sure, some of those freaky canadia drag race trucks with 60t trailers, have more than 2000hp, but this is some gambling and very short life time of these tuned engines.
Now the L6 engine is the OM460
A story on mercedes kurzhauber would be interesting. I still see them still being used in more rural part of southeast asia
and africa and south america and all other poor countries without hard regulations for cars..
The V-banked engine has the perfect low rev capability.
In Indonesia, where I live, inline-6 diesel truck (whether it has been turbocharged and intercooled or it is still a naturally aspirated), suffer from low end revving. The V8s and also the V10s (built by Japanese marques and some European marques) although the displacement is bigger and have the same power as the inline-6s, they are not suffering low revving at all. The amazing thing is that the gearbox are also the same variant with the inline-6s.
Yes it steal fuel but the power of V engines are unmatched by the inline-6s with turbos and superb injection system.
I agree. Too bad the V engines are rare in Indonesian market. It would have been the perfect engines for Indonesia's steep mountain inclines. Which one is your favorite marque?
You should do a video on the roxor/cjs
0:20
That is my dad's truck !
Mercedes twin turbo V8 is a second best sounding diesel engine I have ever heard, maybe sharing that place with Iveco V8 twin turbo.
Only that Costruzione Revisione Motori (CRM) W18 is sounding better.
If I’m not mistaken, MAN and Mercedes had some agreement about this common engine development on the German market at least. That resulted in the former answering that 8hp/ton requirement with a turbo I6, whereas Mercedes offered the NA V10.
If I’m truly understood, Mercedes V10 and MAN V10 is one and the same engine)
miss the v8 in america. we only had the mack e9 as a more common source with a balanced runtime. Just the attempt at self balance..90 degree fire in a 90 degree block is a fuel saver, and power adder at the same time. 6 cyl is for cheap manufacture, and nothing else.
And cheap maintenance and easier to repair and fewer breakable parts and therefore reliability.
@mrsnoopy7557
"Fewer breakable parts and therefore reliability" 🤔 if that's right why American trucks aren't popular all over the world?
Even it's first time to know mack in my life
@@mohammeds5458 number one is size, they wouldnt fit through most european cities. Number two is horsepower and torque, especially relevant for northern european countries, where they have/need sometimes more then 700hp. If i remember correctly, they are used as roadtrains in Down under because of some of these characteristics
@mrsnoopy7557
I'm not from Europe I'm from Saudi arabia our roads are wide and big and I know what talking about.
I miss the Cat 3408
500 bhp, 2700 nm/torque impressive by todays standards.
However, the MAN F90 502 has "only" 2350 Nm, that is a mistake in the video. The MAN F2000 603 and the MAN TGA 660 have 2700 Nm.
@@RichardScherping thank you for that correction.
New Scania super 500 has 500hp/2650nm. Pulls good...
@Bruce_Wilson
There was a further development by Mercedes, the 44* series. I drove a last of the line NG series with a twin turbo OM442, good for 440 hp. The old girl was a gutless wonder compared to modern stuff, but a leaky exhaust made it sound glorious, with a scary howl when you let go of the gas under load.
As far as I am concerned, I wouldn't mind a mid 90s tractor with more than 500 hp, as long as it had a good hydraulic retarder. Solid oily parts, mechanical injection, no electronics. Anyone could work on them.
Client: We need a truck that can carry a car
Mercedes: What kind of car?
Client: An Audi R8 V10
Mercedes: ......... I give you a V10 twin turbo powered truck!
I drive Man 26480 amazing machine..😊
Impressive engines.
very interesting, thanks
Thanks again
Hey viseo racer do racing gokart engines from the 1950s and 1960s there very interesting trust me !
0:10 Roger´s video , MP1 Actros and The Green Queen :))
OM 420. Blaze it
Did the job on those engines never had any problems with them but there was one truck with a V12 engine in Croatia a Mercedes Benz 1735 it was fited with a standard V8 but the owner found a V12 an we instaled it it was brutal 850 HP it was a engine for a river ship! The truck drove til 1999 and it was chrased into a bridge the driver had a hart attack and was deda on the spot
one day, MAN bought Büssing, you can still see their cap designe to the present days...also to fit the engine into the frame of the truck...
they still cherish Büssing, they show the Braunschweiger Löwe/Lion as a hood ornament!
Newer diesel truck should be hybrid, mainly for getting rolling from a stop and steep hills. The main engine and braking could maintain the battery when not in use.
For city use yes, or even fully EV.
@@rickardwaara2130 Ah yes, who would not love a truck with 15 miles of range when pulling a load.😂
@@justincase9471 haha, not sure how much you are keeping up with the modern trucks, but with a weight of 141'000 lbs does a Scania EV manage about 155 miles on a charge. But then again, I mentioned city driving. Aka that means smaller lorries, garbage trucks etc. All for a quiet and cleaner city air.
Check out Edison Motors then
Love that concept. @@MihaelTurina
nice video and some interesting informations. thanks. bye wthe way. those weight pulling man with the smokey exhaust create far more than 1000hp and over 3000nm!
Check out Dark Tornado truckpulling, around 3000 hp
Far better than my country's trucking
16-17 litre V10 and they couldn't get more power than Scania 14 litre V8. Man had 600hp V10 for heavy haulage in mid 90s, when Scania got new 530hp for 144
Certain agricultural machinery are running V16 engines, with Claas belting 2 x straight 6's together
What kind of truck is the one at 5:42?
M.A.N. Phoenix
This is the sort of technical engineering priblem Germany used to excel at.
My 2019 F250 powerstroke is close to the earlier numbers
Same reason why Detroit diesel mtu made v 24 for competition track pulling
You forgot the 660hp V10 engine from the MAN TGA Heavy truck series in 2002. It was the last V10, later only V8 with 680 hp and then R6 with 640 hp.
I did mention the 660hp version
Took a lot of technology, and displacement for all V configurations to remain relevant compared to the inline six.
Ak sa nemcom fakt nieco nedari,tak je to vyrobit dobry kamion. Netvrdim,ze je to uplne zalostne ale kto s tym jazdil,tak vie o com hovorim. Mercedes nevie tahat,nevie radit,nevie sediet na ceste. MAN ani nejdem komentovat,ten vie byt iba cenovo vyhodny. Mozu do toho namontovat aj tisic valec ale stejne nakoniec pridu svedi,ktory tam daju jednoduchu radovu sestku a natrhnu obom prdel na uplne vsetkych frontoch,a to nehovorim len o motoroch.Proste vsade ich nechaju mile za sebou.A ak nahodou nasnezi,tak sa uz nebavime o milach ale o svetelnych rokoch ✌️
good old days 😢
thank the Lord for Euro 6 adblue engines , remember the days of all the black smoke from trucks and buses, I worked in a bus depot in the 70s and 80s after all the buses had started up in the morning you couldn't see anything for half an hour 🤣
I thought a DPF is the filter preventing the black smoke
What is a 'Visio'?
I drove MAN 19.502 as a 21 years old..i remember high fuel consumption,old school power,and that lovely whistle when shifting gears. Mk2 MAN was great machine.
Or when they made v8 that was just masterpiece
Gud vid as always 💯💥🤠
Interesting as always :)
My pleasure!
The 502 had 2350nm of torque
Man only if M.A.N did another v10 turbo for the new trucks
I guess tractor pulling is an international motorsport and not mearly an American one. Watching these European trucks pulling those sleds(?) is something I didn't expect to see.
There is a lot of tractor pulling in Europe. The Dutch are very good at it.
2:50 don’t you mean, “…from a 5 cylinder…”???
Yeah. I found out about the five-cylinder later during the production
Crazy you can just drive to the dealer and buy a 400HP 1000Lb/ft truck right now if you wanted to
The only thing better than a v10 is a v12.
Pretty sure those mercedes engines were used in IMT tractors
Mercedes-Benz 16.0L V10....320 HP, 760 lb.ft
Detroit Diesel 8V71N (normally aspirated)....318 HP, 834 lb.ft from 568 CID (9.3L)
Detroit Diesel 12V71N (normally aspirated).....477 HP, 1251 lb.ft from 851 CID (13.9L)
The 71 series dates all the way back to 1938. The 8V71 began production in the 50s. The 12v71 came later.
2-stroke vs 4-stroke
@@VisioRacer 2
@@markdubois4882 That’s what I am saying
@@VisioRacer A friend of mine in my hometown in northern Ontario, Canada inherited his dad's 1975 Peterbilt 359 Long Nose which came with the 12V71N. He rebuilt the "Buzzin Dozen" (yes, the 12 in 12V71 means 12-cylinder.....V means V-configuration.....71 means 71 cubic inches (1.18L) per cylinder). He also turboed it (twin turbo) to the tune of only 14 psi (just under 1 bar) of boost and added bigger injectors (no injector pump in a 2-stroke Detroit). It now produces 930 HP and 2440 lb.ft (3400 n.m) of torque.
If you really want to compare apples to apples instead of oranges, let's make it a flat level playing field. Take the turbos off the 4-stroke engines, and then and only then compare the 4-strokes to the "Screamin' Jimmys" (2-stroke Detroit). Most of the 4-strokes here in North America run 30 psi (just over 2 bar) of boost.
@@markdubois4882 well why arent the 2 strokes running 30psi? comparing 4 to 2 stroke will never be apples to apples. There are amazing 2 and 4 stroke engines.
There is no doubt rhat 2 strokes can make amazing power, but look at the specific fuel consumption and you will realize why 4 strokes became the norm.
I see truckpulling in your video, but in tractorpulling Dingo uses also this engine, put it to the limit. The sound on diesel was amazing. czcams.com/video/PuuF5olvW3k/video.htmlsi=7ZP4Ja1RDnkbaDxk now it runs on methanol , sound is weaker, but makes a estimate of 5000hp! at this moment.
Look for trek mack 3000hp tt mack v8
6:02 I've never seen a semi do burnouts! 😳
8:30 just imagine how much power that would make if it actually burnt all that carbon
This video is for all of the silly people who say that "V6 tRuCk EnGiNeS dOnT eXiSt"
❤❤❤mercedes benz❤❤❤
The Scania V8 is a Volkswagen engine. I drove MAN, Scania, Mercedes and Volvo for 26 years on International work. The MAN was by far the best
Pretty sure that VW have not done much more then just owning Scania, if so that does not make the V8 any less Swedish then so.
Scania V8 first released in 1969. Pretty sure they weren't owned by VW back then.
The V8 from Scania is NOT a VW engine! Other way around: Scania is teaching MAN and VW how to build excellent engines and transmissions
No, they weren't owned by VW back then, they were even the importer of VW into sweden, But, VW have been making their engines for them.@@teeteetuu94
The 14 litre V8 engine DS14 Scania introduced in 1968 is a completely different engine than the 16 litre V8 that was introduced in the 164 model around 20 years ago. I think the DS14 was developed in collaboration with Mack
Well we have few in at the compagny, ans they could not pull a bag off sweets from a table. Never got there rated power
Why is the thumbnail a Benz ?
The thumbnail mentions both the Mercedes and MAN names, logos....
Back in a time when emissions regulations were practical, and not the grounds for creating a totalitarian society and growing state.
God imagine what america could accomplish if we had been smart enough to invent the autobahn and mandate vehicles had enough HP to not impede traffic
American trucks had 525, 600hp offerings back in 1976 namely the Detroit 12V71TT(525hp) and Cummins KTA600
@@allanwico6314 The problem is america wants everyone to drive the 70mph that 110 psi heavy vehicle tires are rated for.They don't want 20 year olds driving bmws or challengers down the highway at 120mph through light traffic on a nice day. in fact, theyll completely castrate them for having the balls to do it in the first place.
The V10 wasn´t origin from Mercedes. It was an MAN Engine. Mercedes an MAN had al long partnership by engines, because MAN had the Diesel competence,
i drove a MAN f2000 years ago but not the V10
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I am impressed but you can't beat a CAT and Detroit diesel engines they are extremely powerful in a frieghtliner
Euro trucks would drag them away...I've driven all
@williamrae9954 now but definitely not back then