Lottery fraud : Lucky 7 - the fifth estate

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 13. 09. 2016
  • Someone collected a huge lottery prize that really belonged to someone else. From 2012, Linden MacIntyre brings you the climax of a story the fifth estate first told you in 2006 when we discovered that some lottery ticket buyers had their winnings cashed in by crooked shopkeepers.
    As the fifth estate investigation revealed, one particular insider lottery jackpot looked especially fishy. It was a family that claimed a huge $12.5 million jackpot in 2004 with a ticket issued in their store. After police charged three members of the family with fraud and money laundering, the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation (OLG) was swamped with calls from people claiming to be the rightful owners of that winning ticket.
    It would take a dying woman's intuition and the OLG seven years to find the true winners of that lottery jackpot. How it happened is a true-life drama full of strange twists, false claims, counter-claims, court battles and a nifty new computer program that can meticulously track the habits of people who play the lottery game. OLG investigators reveal to the fifth estate how they found them, and the lucky seven ordinary guys who suddenly struck it rich speak publicly for the first time since their win.
    ---
    Subscribe for more videos from the fifth estate : bit.ly/25W8cpn
    Connect with the fifth estate online :
    Website : bit.ly/1d0FBxq
    Facebook : bit.ly/1UO9B8S
    Twitter : bit.ly/237VM8P
    Instagram : bit.ly/25W8SLs
    About the fifth estate : For four decades the fifth estate has been Canada's premier investigative documentary program. Hosts Bob McKeown, Gillian Findlay and Mark Kelley continue a tradition of provocative and fearless journalism. the fifth estate brings in-depth investigations that matter to Canadians - delivering a dazzling parade of political leaders, controversial characters and ordinary people whose lives were touched by triumph or tragedy.

Komentáře • 1,3K

  • @robynandrews4384
    @robynandrews4384 Před rokem +69

    When Lotto first came out in NZ, a grandmother had bought a ticket for her and her grandson. The parents stole the ticket saying it was their sons and that his grandmother had bought it for him, and she wasn't entitled to any of it. That backfired hugely when the courts determined that the grandson was underage and as the purchaser, the grandmother was entitled to every cent 😊

    • @jmjm7012
      @jmjm7012 Před rokem +10

      Don't mess with OLD PEOPLE

    • @moizmahmood8278
      @moizmahmood8278 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Yes!!! Thats amazing!!

    • @bill.com1565
      @bill.com1565 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I was told I won 10 bucks on the lotto 649 here in Canada like 12 years ago but as the store owner passed me the 10 bucks he seemed to be jittery and I saw him daily as the store was beside where I was living at the time but the man was a nice really nice man and I would have felt so bad had I went to recheck my numbers like asking can I see that ticket and take s pucturd of the ticket to check elsewhere but all this time later I wish I had done just that and went back to see the ticket and take a picture of it because I just know something went Down who knows might have been just 100 bucks or so but the nagging feeling I still have about that whole scene still bothers me all this time later and I live in a different province now but still bothers me

    • @robynandrews4384
      @robynandrews4384 Před 3 měsíci

      @@bill.com1565 Dang, that sucks. After watching this, that nagging feeling must feel like a strong thud. 😞

    • @johnwoa
      @johnwoa Před měsícem

      @@bill.com1565 ALWAYS keep your original ticket AND the validation slip that shows if it was a winner or not. In Canada, lottery retailers are required by law to give back your validated ticket and the validation slip from your ticket.

  • @shanemanchester
    @shanemanchester Před 5 lety +196

    Word of advice. You should NEVER ask a shop owner to check your ticket. Happened in Oldham, UK about 6 years ago. Old dear asked her newsagent to check her Euromillions ticket. She’d been shopping there for years. It was a £1 million Raffle Prize winner. He lied and said it hadn’t won. He then tried to claim it himself, the lotto people weren’t happy with his answers about the ticket. They knew the ticket had been bought at a supermarket using a bank card. They traced her that way. On CCTV. Gave her the mill. Gave the attempted fraudster 30 months in clink. Result. Oh and the newsagent had their lottery franchise taken away from them.

    • @dannymcnamara2554
      @dannymcnamara2554 Před 3 lety +23

      Excellent outcome for the winner!! Excellent sentence for the perpetrators!!

    • @ivanperkovic6295
      @ivanperkovic6295 Před 3 lety +11

      You can't get scammed no more you can check if you won online

    • @investigatecamelot1757
      @investigatecamelot1757 Před 2 lety

      Do you not find it highly suspicious that the first case of UK lottery retailer fraud was discovered in 2011? That's 17 years after the UK National Lottery started. The Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation investigation revealed that $198 million had been claimed by lottery retailers, employees, and their families over a 13 year period. The Ontario Lottery had 10,300 lottery ticket sales locations at the time, the UK has over 44,000.
      Camelot don't even randomly test retailer integrity by using undercover operatives with marked winning tickets worth $20,000+ like they do in USA and Canada.
      Camelot don't ask high tier prize claimants about any affiliation to Camelot, retailers, or employees, and they certainly don't ask whether they're related to anyone who works for Camelot or retailers.
      Have a look at Camelot's claim form, then have a look at the OLG claim form, they are worlds apart. The Camelot claim form is a joke when you consider one was filled out for a £170.2 million prize.
      Write to your MP and ask for Camelot to be investigated by the Serious Fraud Office.

    • @sikhpilot.
      @sikhpilot. Před rokem +8

      Had he been honest to the old lady alongside the fact that she had been shopping there for years, I have no doubt she would have rewarded him.

    • @donnamorgan2522
      @donnamorgan2522 Před rokem +3

      Sweet Justice!

  • @sams9124
    @sams9124 Před 2 lety +69

    I’m so happy these guys collected the money. They’re all so humble and deserving. Shame on those thieves!

    • @snowangel1066
      @snowangel1066 Před rokem

      Fk these men this guy with a foo fighters shirt has the confederate flag in his house in CANADA. Fk far right racists!

    • @GottaWannaDance
      @GottaWannaDance Před rokem

      It was odd to only see 4 or 5 winners from the group in any scene. What happened to the other 2 ??

  • @JosieF3G
    @JosieF3G Před 3 lety +67

    I loved how genuinely nice the lotto investigator was. And the group of construction workers seemed like a good bunch of guys. I was happy for them!

    • @AlreadyShort
      @AlreadyShort Před rokem

      hes a mo

    • @snowangel1066
      @snowangel1066 Před rokem

      Fk these men this guy with a foo fighters shirt has the confederate flag in his house in CANADA. Fk far right racists!

  • @jaylove3487
    @jaylove3487 Před rokem +9

    Years ago my Dad checked a ticket (at home) and it won $20. He later went to a kiosk and gave it to a East Indian lady to check the ticket. She said it was loser and tossed it. My Dad said no it’s not, she laughed and said she was joking. If I had my time back I would have had my Dad report her, it was obviously a scam!!

  • @fluffgirl1000
    @fluffgirl1000 Před 4 lety +35

    in australia you buy a registration card and every time you buy a ticket you use your card to register the ticket ..no one can cheat you

    • @badmonkey2222
      @badmonkey2222 Před 3 lety +3

      Here in the US there's a spot to write your name and address on the back of the ticket and that solves a whole problem, but people just don't do it for the most part I guess, this is a perfect example.

  • @richyrich561
    @richyrich561 Před 5 lety +121

    The morale of the story: CHECK YOUR OWN TICKETS!

    • @magicpoopsoup
      @magicpoopsoup Před 4 lety +9

      Maybe you missed the story...... they pocketed his free ticket. You can’t check your own ticket if you don’t know it exists.....

    • @antonioporras5161
      @antonioporras5161 Před 4 lety +3

      They handed him something. An old loser ticket??

    • @ransmomebloke1949
      @ransmomebloke1949 Před 4 lety +2

      They didn't have the technology back in 2003 to check your own ticket.

    • @Scorch428
      @Scorch428 Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah, im not sure thats what happened....Im thinking its that thing where you sign your free tickets. What exactly made that group of guys call years later??

    • @cheery-hex
      @cheery-hex Před 4 lety +2

      *moral

  • @suraventri2544
    @suraventri2544 Před 7 lety +367

    I love that they paid the guys the interest on the years they didn't get their Winnings :)

    • @Commentator541
      @Commentator541 Před 5 lety +2

      @kgbme Lottery always pay in installments.

    • @kyorkdabbagh7759
      @kyorkdabbagh7759 Před 5 lety +4

      here they will charge you the collection fee plus investigation fee plus &&&&&& plus taxes

    • @khunopie9159
      @khunopie9159 Před 5 lety +20

      The Koreans who stole the cash got 4 - 7 years in jail! The lady got 4 years.

    • @staceykersting705
      @staceykersting705 Před 5 lety +5

      @@Commentator541 In Oregon, they give u the choice of installments or lump sum.

    • @A-FrameWedge
      @A-FrameWedge Před 4 lety

      Stacey Kersting All U.S. lotteries offer a lump payment or installments on large millions of dollars winnings.

  • @lyndahoward3785
    @lyndahoward3785 Před 3 lety +9

    Kudos to the OLG for pursuing this in finding the legitimate winners. Such a great bunch of guys to have become millionaires together.
    Sad there’s so many untrustworthy people out there trying to rip people off.

  • @jputterman26
    @jputterman26 Před 3 lety +56

    The coolest part is his sister knowing it was his ticket. But I also enjoy seeing a bunch of good working men living less stressful lives, and doing it with class.

    • @Evocati-Augusti
      @Evocati-Augusti Před 3 lety +2

      I think that would in the class of having a vision..

    • @Evocati-Augusti
      @Evocati-Augusti Před 3 lety +3

      and ive had store owners tell me my tickets were bad when I clearly knew they were winners(20-100 bucks)..and asked for them back..

  • @splint3048
    @splint3048 Před 4 lety +12

    There was a group of about six guys at a place I used to work at who were in a lottery syndicate. One guy was left to look after the ticket buying and did so for years until the day their lucky numbers came up. The prize was well into the millions and the guys celebrated and partied, committed to some big purchases and really lived it up. They ticket buyer guy seemed to be taking his time in cashing in the ticket and the other guys started asking questions. It seemed he forgot to buy the ticket that week, or that was his story anyway. They got pretty upset to say the least and questioned him about where he had been buying the tickets. He named the place and they weren't sure if he was telling the truth so they escorted him the the store and asked the store keeper if he recognized the guy and if he was a regular lotto ticket buyer. The store keeper said he'd never seen the guy before. They didn't kill the guy but they sure wanted to. Management had to relocate him to another part of the factory for his own safety. Not sure what the final outcome was with that but I think there's a lesson in it for anyone in a lottery syndicate.

  • @katienovota8870
    @katienovota8870 Před 3 lety +6

    Those guys are adorable. I also loved the way he subtly mocked that woman - "What have you been through?" - and then laughed in her face.

  • @yanifree114
    @yanifree114 Před 3 lety +32

    I saw this in 2016 but watching again. I'm so happy for these fella's and their families. Amazing story about his beloved sister. I hope their lives have been good these past years and that they paid it forward. Love to get an update.

  • @HypeTv100
    @HypeTv100 Před 6 lety +241

    the guy who bought the ticket its a very honest man to tell his friends they all won

    • @thomasnorman9723
      @thomasnorman9723 Před 5 lety +40

      he belonged to a brotherhood, cannot deceive your brothers

    • @joeb2822
      @joeb2822 Před 5 lety +1

      mmmn. L.

    • @dustigenes
      @dustigenes Před 5 lety +29

      The group does seem very close, but even if they were not close, the group would hear about this on the news when the story broke. If he usually only bought tickets for the group and not individually for himself, with all the scrutiny around the ticket, he would be a complete idiot to lie about it!

    • @mironyuk
      @mironyuk Před 5 lety +23

      The 2 lottery workers deserve atleast 100K each

    • @dustigenes
      @dustigenes Před 5 lety +13

      Actually Steve I have come to realize that even though I hold honesty and fairness among the most important traits in family and friends, there are those among us that will take advantage where and when they can. This guy seems decent, maybe he was just smart.

  • @cherylblancher5984
    @cherylblancher5984 Před 2 lety +22

    What an awesome story and may his sister rest in peace!!!

  • @mironyuk
    @mironyuk Před 5 lety +87

    I never did trust clerks , always checked myself

    • @joefox9765
      @joefox9765 Před 5 lety +2

      I don't trust Asians. Period

    • @meichong8278
      @meichong8278 Před 4 lety

      @@joefox9765 well your not part of TRUDEAU 's super duper inclusive society where diversity is Canada" s strength, mind you is anybody

    • @batsinhell8117
      @batsinhell8117 Před 4 lety +1

      @@joefox9765 i agree, greed greed greed....don't forget dirty, i bought a house after chines once....never again

    • @batsinhell8117
      @batsinhell8117 Před 4 lety

      @@meichong8278 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Scorch428
      @Scorch428 Před 4 lety +2

      Im honestly not so sure they did anythign wrong....this doc didnt go into ANY detail about what happened....did the guy throw the ticket away and just not want it when he cashed it in for a free ticket? If so, then he didnt fill out the back and enter...so id say its the asians prize. Now if the ticket itself was the winner and they lied about it, then the guys would deserve it, but im not so sure thats what happened exactly....

  • @sherribrawn3757
    @sherribrawn3757 Před 4 lety +14

    If I had known just how much that man helped the process along with his program I think I'd have given a few dollars as well..... Great story CBC!!

  • @wadewilson5296
    @wadewilson5296 Před 4 lety +10

    I appreciated the olg guy being so committed to find the winner's of the ticket.

  • @noroar3258
    @noroar3258 Před 4 lety +8

    nice to see Rick again and that he's worked his way up the ladder at OLG . I worked with him in the 90's at the regional sault st. marie branch before the corp. did a major downsizing to the sales team . So many good memories working there .

  • @gleadhill79
    @gleadhill79 Před 4 lety +19

    I'm so glad this man got his winnings, especially since it seemed like a gift from heaven via his sister! Such an amazing story for him to tell his children one day!

  • @conspiraciesarejustgreatst2059

    I love that these guys won the lottery. They deserve it and so do many other families just like it. Glad to see them enjoying their new lives

  • @johnb6913
    @johnb6913 Před 7 lety +61

    35:35 Love the laugh of the reporter when he questions the alleged ticket thief.

  • @yukiefromoz2573
    @yukiefromoz2573 Před 4 lety +12

    In Australia, we can register our tickets. And also stay anonymous if we win.

  • @danielmurphy3058
    @danielmurphy3058 Před 5 lety +23

    I appreciate the fact that these lottery winners are still humble and down to earth. They deserve a comfortable life. Good things happens to people that are patient.

  • @Anna-sj4ut
    @Anna-sj4ut Před 6 lety +36

    I gave my lottery ticket to a store owner to check (this was before the winning ticket scanner) and he never gave that ticket back to me. Shortly after, he sold his convenience stand. This was in Toronto at the CIBC building. I still wonder to this day...

    • @burnaby604
      @burnaby604 Před 6 lety +6

      Anna Q.
      Thats really shaddy. Seems like did rip u off but you never know

    • @tiffanyp7670
      @tiffanyp7670 Před 5 lety +4

      That sucks, but if they did steal a winning ticket from you, karma has no concept of time. they'll get what's coming to them

    • @rebelliussoul3645
      @rebelliussoul3645 Před 5 lety +6

      If he stole your winnings then that money will be a curse to him and not a blessing, let 'em enjoy it for now, the money they steal will always bring misery to them.

    • @watchaone4400
      @watchaone4400 Před 4 lety +2

      No time limit on robbery check it out get a p i if you win your money give me a shout hope its you

    • @lezel4swarts
      @lezel4swarts Před 4 lety

      😬😥

  • @danielmurphy3058
    @danielmurphy3058 Před 5 lety +12

    I watched this story when it first aired few years back. I must be honest. It brought tears to my eyes. Of course it was a tears of happiness. Because in in the end right people got what they rightfully deserved. Things like this only happens once in a life time. Sometimes it may happens more than once. However, happy happy for them all.

  • @NiaPgn
    @NiaPgn Před 4 lety +32

    I wouldn’t want anyone to know I won

  • @moewilson4605
    @moewilson4605 Před 5 lety +15

    God bless this man’s sister.

  • @kylewagner3052
    @kylewagner3052 Před 4 lety +10

    This is the way it's supposed to be. Very Happy for these families. a true feel good story.

  • @hugehappygrin
    @hugehappygrin Před 6 lety +45

    Asian guy said "How'd they find out?" One of the oldest tricks in the book, acknowledging an event that didn't, actually, occur.

    • @shanemanchester
      @shanemanchester Před 4 lety +4

      hugehappygrin he he. Crooked as a £3 note.

    • @benjaminalexander8733
      @benjaminalexander8733 Před 4 lety

      @Armando Mejia Takara ...and then everybody clapped.

    • @readilium3432
      @readilium3432 Před 4 lety +1

      @@benjaminalexander8733 "No one ever does anything cool...because I don't" ---Benjamin

    • @benjaminalexander8733
      @benjaminalexander8733 Před 4 lety

      @@readilium3432 I do cool stuff all the time.
      Last week, I headbutted a baby.

  • @PaddyMcMe
    @PaddyMcMe Před 5 lety +2

    This is seriously the best 'light current affairs' good news story I've ever watched.
    I hope that pair of geniuses who came up with that method of finding those guys know they are absolute heroes.
    And those responsible for discerning that the NewsAgent's family ran a scam also deserve great credit.
    I also hope the lad's decided to pool some of their millions together and since they're already in the field, start a serious big construction company or something akin together, $1.8 million each is enough to be secure for life, but if all or some of them put some of their money in together to start say a 3-6 million construction start up company they will see that money returned to them many times over during the remainder of their lives. It's so important to intelligently reinvest your money not just get caught up buying high deterioration items like cars, boats, watches, jewellery, etc.

  • @alioffski45
    @alioffski45 Před 4 lety +4

    This has happened in the uk when an elderly person checks the ticket on a scanner the till beeps , to say you've won , but not by how much. The clerk might hand over with a smile and say you have won fifty pounds (forgetting about the receipt ) when the real winnings would have been thousands . The majority get caught in the end.

  • @christinawalker3421
    @christinawalker3421 Před 7 lety +87

    God bless these humble, hard working guys!! Nice ending!!

    • @godlyblessedliibaangodisgo4394
      @godlyblessedliibaangodisgo4394 Před 6 lety +2

      Christina Walker Amen Amen👼❤

    • @NoName-np8ko
      @NoName-np8ko Před 5 lety

      Christina Walker
      Humble? Guys who win the lottery, tell everyone, and then go around on the news and TV shows? Yeah, really "humble".

    • @Veggamattic
      @Veggamattic Před 5 lety +3

      @@NoName-np8ko You clearly don't know what the word humble means.

  • @leelydston1225
    @leelydston1225 Před 2 lety +5

    What a GREAT Story about 7 seemingly friendly guys that just love life!

  • @metalboy8822
    @metalboy8822 Před 4 lety +8

    In the States for sometime now, the moment you buy any ticket and say it turns-out to be a big winner: the lottery headquarters of that state can pull-up the video from the location you bought that ticket. So when you show-up to claim your payday they can reveal same date/time when ticket was purchased and "look" at who's standing there.
    Mystery solved!

    • @gibsonsg6201
      @gibsonsg6201 Před 4 lety

      What if your wife bought the tickets and you weren’t in the video?

    • @metalboy8822
      @metalboy8822 Před 4 lety

      @@gibsonsg6201 Then, you'd both show up to claim the prize. But if you were in a Casino and you're taking turns on say, a progressive slot: and it's her turn, hits the jackpot. Then Casinos by their rule will pay the person who played the machine last, even if it is your money you both gambled with! www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article142963604.html

  • @VictoriaBitter1976
    @VictoriaBitter1976 Před 6 lety +110

    Anyone who goes public with ANY Lottery Win is insane. Although I believe it's compulsory in North America?
    In Australia you can remain completely anonymous if you so wish.

    • @lenitaa7938
      @lenitaa7938 Před 6 lety +30

      Brandon Quatro So true! It's insane! People get killed for winning! And suddenly one has many new 'friends' and relatives asking for and even demanding a piece of the pie!

    • @lisarose9091
      @lisarose9091 Před 6 lety +17

      In Canada you can not stay anonymous.

    • @alvaroakatico9188
      @alvaroakatico9188 Před 6 lety +14

      Anyone can remain anonymous if the winning ticket is claimed by a trust.

    • @NoName-np8ko
      @NoName-np8ko Před 5 lety +3

      Brandon Quatro
      Um, you do know North America is made up of like 23 countries, right? Are you saying you believe all these countries have a lotto like this and that it is mandatory for winners in all of them to identify themselves? I can only speak for America. Here, you can claim winnings anonymously. That's why winners in America who aren't total morons hire an attorney immediately.

    • @yaboy7120
      @yaboy7120 Před 5 lety +5

      Hey Brandon ik ur frm Australia so u may not know this but North America covers 3 large countries. It is possible for the 3 nations to have the same laws but there is no such thing as a North American law so it cannot be cumpulsor across North America as a law unless the 3 natioms just so happen to adopt said law. Furthermor in the United States whether or not a lottery winner can remain anonymous is decided by whatever state you live in. In some states a lottery winner can remain anonymous while in other states the state laws prohibit it.

  • @rotties-rules
    @rotties-rules Před 7 lety +184

    should adopt the norwegian lotto system you can only play lotto,if you have registered with your social security number and bank account then you recieve a lotto card, you can only buy a ticket using this card and then every time you have won, the money goes automatically into your bank account dont have to worry about lost or stolen tickets and if you win the main prize you will recieve a phone call, also for amounts over 10.000kr they will call you.

    • @themorningstar3353
      @themorningstar3353 Před 6 lety +1

      its a dogs life Your name is misspelled. Men du är norsk, så jag kan förstå. Vad står det i rondellerna i Norge? Max ett varv.

    • @ricosartiz5971
      @ricosartiz5971 Před 6 lety

      its a dogs life wow man is so superior to this way ahead

    • @24bidy
      @24bidy Před 6 lety +4

      are you for real ,Government already have all that

    • @teebosaurusyou
      @teebosaurusyou Před 6 lety +3

      Brilliant! But we lack that :-/

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 Před 5 lety +1

      That doesn't sound as fun, I assume. And it's pretty complicated. Would people agree to it?

  • @kevinbetter4741
    @kevinbetter4741 Před 5 lety +6

    Couldn't have happened to a better bunch of guys! Great story.

  • @chucku.farley
    @chucku.farley Před 6 lety +122

    Canada is awesome and honest. Here in america that lady would have got 40 years and there would be no investigation into who really won the money. No freakin way they would have paid out twice. I wanna move to Canada, eh?

    • @virtuitousvampire9371
      @virtuitousvampire9371 Před 6 lety +15

      christian yates plus you pay taxes on winnings, we don’t.

    • @burnaby604
      @burnaby604 Před 6 lety +1

      Its really beautiful down here. The systems not meant too fail. You should consider it

    • @birdybirdforever
      @birdybirdforever Před 5 lety +9

      Virtuitous Vampire - which country are you from? Here in the U.S. we absolutely pay taxes on winnings (I think upwards of 40% if you take the lump sum)

    • @NoName-np8ko
      @NoName-np8ko Před 5 lety +6

      christian yates
      You want to move to Canada because of this story? Wow, you are freaking stupid. Please, GO!

    • @private2809
      @private2809 Před 5 lety +6

      Man. You bruised a lot of delicate egos...

  • @amiami3540
    @amiami3540 Před 5 lety +9

    Wow, it is so whelming to know that lottery company has so much technology to track the right winner..nice video..

  • @richellereynolds881
    @richellereynolds881 Před 4 lety +10

    They should be thrown in jail and assest liquidated to repay the debt

  • @marycull3607
    @marycull3607 Před 7 lety +81

    It's amazing how Dan's dying Sister had that premonition. Good Luck to these Guys. But hey I wouldn't want to go back to work after winning so much money. Maybe it keeps some normality in their lives.

  • @ltgtg6341
    @ltgtg6341 Před 4 lety +8

    Seems like a good group of down to earth guys.

  • @sarahbee3868
    @sarahbee3868 Před 5 lety +14

    Update: September 5, 2018 Ontario Superior Court Justice Douglas Gray sentenced Jun-Chul Chung, the patriarch of the family to seven years in prison, his 36-year-old daughter Kathleen Chung to four years and his son Kenneth to 10 months as the judge found he didn’t play a role in the winning ticket scam.

  • @hallets1956
    @hallets1956 Před 7 lety +26

    What a great story. Thanks for the upload.

  • @adrianafranhel2932
    @adrianafranhel2932 Před 5 lety +6

    Wow! Bravo for the investigators!

  • @Shania134
    @Shania134 Před 5 lety +17

    Wow congrats to all and to the guy for inventing the DART system to track the tickets...Thats awesome

  • @SapphoKore
    @SapphoKore Před 6 lety +19

    The two single guys got to buy muscle cars .. lol

    • @burnaby604
      @burnaby604 Před 6 lety

      Heather Long
      You like muscle cars?

    • @Davido50
      @Davido50 Před 4 lety +1

      American muscle cars are only way to go.

    • @readilium3432
      @readilium3432 Před 4 lety

      @Luna EB No you didn't.

  • @bkallday2998
    @bkallday2998 Před 5 lety +24

    Loyalty, Respect and Honor is the moral of this story...........the money was just a blessing.

  • @sourcehauntings8851
    @sourcehauntings8851 Před 4 lety +11

    What a great story- I love the twist where a woman in a coma comes out to deliver a message to her brother- how cool! So much love to the men who won this- I wish them all the joy this world can give! ( I also hope they invest wisely and not blow it like that Chung woman😂)

  • @jewelfish2001
    @jewelfish2001 Před 3 lety +2

    Happened here in Australia. Two youngish girls won, Malaysian or Korean national in Australia on visa stole their ticket, claimed the money and took off. Luckily (from memory) the girls had taken a photo of themselves with their winning ticket.

  • @kaynovo8043
    @kaynovo8043 Před 5 lety +14

    Awesome story : happy for these guys ...😃

  • @bigadventur
    @bigadventur Před 6 lety +42

    Check your tickets yourself and keep the receipt of purchase ......purchase at same store .print then ...sign your tickets

    • @Veggamattic
      @Veggamattic Před 5 lety +4

      I think you missed the whole point of the show...you don't have to be paranoid any more Joe.

    • @red3y3z1
      @red3y3z1 Před 5 lety +4

      @@Veggamattic actually Joe is right. how hard is it to check your own ticket.
      Also the lottery states you should immediately sign your tickets.

    • @chiquitawims1784
      @chiquitawims1784 Před 5 lety +7

      I think everyone missed the part that the original ticket didn’t win money, it won a free quick pick ticket. so if he had signed the original it wouldn’t have mattered because that one didn’t have the winning numbers on it. The store keep the first ticket and days later scanned it and got the ticket with the free quick pick. that free ticket was the ticket with the winning numbers. The guy had no idea that he won a extra ticket with the free quick pick.

  • @wciantar45
    @wciantar45 Před 6 lety +15

    They even got the interest for the lost years

  • @andrewilliams7499
    @andrewilliams7499 Před 5 lety +3

    I went and had a ticket checked,the machine said exceeds payout limit the guy said the machine was broke,and handed me $5.00. a few months later I saw a winning amount of $300,000. plus can't remember exact amount. But then I knew I had been scamed.

  • @ballad2212
    @ballad2212 Před 4 lety +3

    Here in NC, you could only buy lotto tickets with cash, for years. How can you build a profile on a customer who pays cash?

  • @joannthomases9304
    @joannthomases9304 Před 4 lety +4

    What's nice is the friend of the 7. He stayed true to his friends. The world could be searched and rarely find such a friend !!!!

  • @aurorav.7209
    @aurorav.7209 Před 6 lety +6

    Im so happy for these guys. In the past its so easy for the ticket seller to deceive the customer because when you go to check your ticket there was no machine to check it yourself unless you look through all this set of numbers of winning ticket but when you want to buy an other ticket you just hand it to the person to check it for you. I think thats what happened to me but I didnt know you can call OLG if you're suspicious about it. Thanks to the show, now I will report it. Its less than $100,000 but I want to report it even I don't get the money anymore. I just need to them to know.

    • @rasten79
      @rasten79 Před rokem +1

      Did you get the money??

  • @tbozbaliol3388
    @tbozbaliol3388 Před 4 lety +1

    This happened to me: Winnipeg, the Bay downtown on Vaughn street...I lived in a little apartment across the street...the Basement Grocery Store in the Bay I would get my groceries all the time, about 06, or 07 or so...I gave my ticket to the clerk, she had blond hair. She checked my ticket, and fast as lightning threw it under the counter and said it wasn't a winner. I said 'wait, let me see it!!' and she said, 'what! you think its a winner??!!' I asked for the box under the counter where she threw all the tickets into, and she gave me the box (which I THOUGHT at the time, she threw it into the box, but probably had a little shelf she threw it onto instead as mine wasn't there in the box full of tickets, as I had been playing the same numbers for about 3 or 4 years by that time. I told her it wasn't there and then she said 'I put them all In there, in the box.' there was a lineup and she said 'move on, I'm working.' 2 weeks later she was gone from that kiosk and a month or so later was a big sign up in the Bay window saying the Bay lotto had sold a big winning ticket there...it was under a million, I think, but about 5 or 600,000.00 if I remember correctly. To this day, I always think that I was scammed by her.

    • @hydieblack7686
      @hydieblack7686 Před 4 lety +1

      Tboz Baliol you NEED to contact the lottery service ASAP. You have more than enough info to get them to at least investigate, especially since you know your numbers!!!

  • @JockMcBile
    @JockMcBile Před 3 lety +1

    The worst part IS, this was happening REGULARLY ALL OVER CANADA. They stole $2million from an old man in Toronto. He died before he could see the money. Though they did give it to his Estate.

  • @josephstymest6089
    @josephstymest6089 Před 6 lety +15

    This is why I always check my tickets online first. Then validate them before handing it to the clerk. Years ago I use to play the $7 649 combination when it was a buck. Once I had 3 numbers so I knew I won $40 and when I handed it to the clerk he said I won $10 and I called him a thief and a liar right there because I knew I won $40. I rarely play those big lotteries 649/ lotomax now because there is no money in the smaller prizes. Take Lottario for example, get 4 of 6 you win $10, get 2 and bonus # you win zilch, bonus # only you win a free play. I think the lottery corp is losing sales on those big lotteries because there only seems to be a 649 winner once or twice a month now. Check out David Menzies' video at Rebel Media and his hassle about claiming just over a one grand prize.

  • @9-23-15
    @9-23-15 Před 4 lety +11

    Best lottery story yet. Great job .

  • @RebuttalRecords
    @RebuttalRecords Před 5 lety +2

    On more than one occasion, I've had Asian shopkeepers not bother to give me my validation slip, and when I call them out on it they have the nerve to argue about it, at which point I inform them they could lose their lottery terminal if they DON'T comply with my request. Check your ticket against an online lotto winning numbers website and validate it using an in-store scanner before EVER trusting any clerk.

  • @lk4429
    @lk4429 Před 5 lety +4

    Good investigators! You made my day, even if I could only dream of it. I am overwhelmingly happy for those man. Spend it wisely. Treat your kids and wives nice. Make good use of it, donate to something where people are also blessed. So happy for you. It makes my heart smile for you all.😊😘🐥😂

  • @ohmusicsweetmusic
    @ohmusicsweetmusic Před 5 lety +3

    they were sentenced prison time in september, appealled their case and the judge granted them bail while they wait on their appeal. The money was sent to North Korea years ago. They have since left Canada to avoid prison. The OLG needs to just charge it to the game. When you give the wrong person the money, it's gone.

  • @naimaaden8155
    @naimaaden8155 Před 4 lety +10

    The guy who's sister died is sooooo sweet he got his friend's in on this 😍

  • @andrewl1024
    @andrewl1024 Před 4 lety +2

    What a great story. Glad to see a group of guys like this win.

  • @Texas_Cruiser
    @Texas_Cruiser Před 7 lety +37

    A CIVIL lawsuit? Not sure how Canadian law works but us neighbors down south don't take well to these things....criminal charges for sure. They should all be locked up.

    • @grahammckenzie6402
      @grahammckenzie6402 Před 6 lety +4

      jpratx they should be told admit it and u won't be deported. If they don't ship them back korea

    • @24bidy
      @24bidy Před 6 lety +2

      Canada is a laughing stock lol . It is all controlled ,I been there for 27 years play a lot never ever that I wins. I Went to Europe last year play one game I have 5 numbers

    • @victoriadelaney1123
      @victoriadelaney1123 Před 5 lety +7

      jpratx Lolololololol so funny!! How’s all that ‘locking up’ working for you guys ‘down south’? I wouldn’t change places with you for 12 million. God help you guys though...you’re a laughing stock now.

    • @taxi615
      @taxi615 Před 5 lety +3

      I would rather have Trutti the the clown you guy's elected lol and besides we live in a country that just about every person on earth loves us can you say the same for the Republic of USA...lol you guy's are so scared of everything you lock you room doors to protect yourselves from you killer kids. The US is a joke.

    • @victoriadelaney1123
      @victoriadelaney1123 Před 5 lety

      24bidy good. Stay there. We don’t want you.

  • @cruisepaige
    @cruisepaige Před 5 lety +6

    Love these ordinary guys!

  • @pub6023
    @pub6023 Před 4 lety +3

    I always ask for my ticket back after it’s checked, I worked in Bowral NSW Australia years ago where a family owned newsagent/lottery shop was caught holding on to winning tickets, the pretended to scan them then crumple and throw in a bin....only to retrieve them once the customer left. They were Asian also.

  • @richellereynolds881
    @richellereynolds881 Před 4 lety +15

    I bet you that one guy would have gave up all that money just to have his sister back.

  • @hughlingard
    @hughlingard Před 7 lety +34

    Fortune cookie say, "Your greed will bring much misery!"

    • @hellohellohello6847
      @hellohellohello6847 Před 6 lety

      Brian HL lol

    • @NoName-np8ko
      @NoName-np8ko Před 5 lety +2

      T Y
      Do you even know what "racist" means? It means believing a race is superior based on genetics. Please explain how his comment means he believes Asians are inferior because of their genetics. I find that 99% of people who accuse others of "racism" don't even know what the word means.

    • @dewitt352
      @dewitt352 Před 5 lety

      @T Y Not really. It is actually very true. They should have known better but they were too greedy.

    • @RandoMGuy-zg8px
      @RandoMGuy-zg8px Před 4 lety

      @@NoName-np8ko Modern racism would rather be defined as: "a set of social relations that is used to discriminate against people based on their assumed race . Given their political power, wealth, and historical precedent, racism is usually expressed as discrimination by white populations against ‘non-white’ people. (...)"*
      * Rogers, A., Castree, N., & Kitchin, R. (2013). racism. In A Dictionary of Human Geography. : Oxford University Press. Retrieved 26 Feb. 2020, from www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199599868.001.0001/acref-9780199599868-e-1499.

  • @monychahal3416
    @monychahal3416 Před 5 lety +6

    Pos people stole someone else money I hope they rot in jail and after that end up living on the streets

  • @gopato2632
    @gopato2632 Před 6 lety +3

    OLG coming out as the good guys here! How can you determine a persons buying habits where there is no ID or personal info used when buying tickets? They took 7 years to find the 'winners' how did the 'winners' remember their purchase of 7 years back? No proof is provided that this analyzing machine works or that the 'winners 'actually won!

  • @maryellenw
    @maryellenw Před 4 lety +1

    ~7:35: "...and high hopes."
    I love it!

  • @cindieduncan1100
    @cindieduncan1100 Před 4 lety +2

    This goes to show you honesty does pay off, I am thrilled for these winners

  • @kathleenrobinson1594
    @kathleenrobinson1594 Před rokem +3

    What.a great story and a great bunch of guys The man that did the work genuine happiness for helping them get the money made me cry. I hope you received something.

  • @shananagans5
    @shananagans5 Před 5 lety +4

    Very cool story and they seem mature enough to be realistic about how far 2 million will go.
    Hopefully, they will benefit from the win for the rest of their lives. They seem like great guys.

    • @paulbaker428
      @paulbaker428 Před 2 lety

      Always sign the back of your tickets.

  • @GottaWannaDance
    @GottaWannaDance Před rokem +2

    This was a fun fifth estate, not that the other sad ones aren't necessary.
    Too bad this sister didn't make it. She was the hinge to all this happening in a good way.

  • @davescott8859
    @davescott8859 Před 5 lety

    Awesome turn out, good bunch of guys, and that investigator is an amazing guy, good feel good story, thanks.

  • @daadirabbi
    @daadirabbi Před 4 lety +6

    Very fishy how hes sister knows in first place the second so call software engineer he knows Dan all along. Very suspicious.

    • @kerrylord2576
      @kerrylord2576 Před 4 lety

      I thought he only new him for years from finging out about him from where he bought the tickets! unsure about this me .

  • @oclaothug69
    @oclaothug69 Před 6 lety +4

    Great story and happy for the guys who won

  • @youssefhassani7009
    @youssefhassani7009 Před 5 lety +2

    Great story !!very happy for these guys , they deserve it 🙏🏻

  • @ericamary6778
    @ericamary6778 Před rokem +1

    I am certain other lotto outlets out there are pinching winning tickets... So glad for these guys.

  • @camman6912
    @camman6912 Před 6 lety +10

    Take all the crooks assets and shut them down

  • @skatedd2451
    @skatedd2451 Před 7 lety +14

    his sister dies of cancer you win the lotto and you still smoke that's disgusting cigarettes... give it a second chance if throwing it away...

  • @1sillylife
    @1sillylife Před 3 lety +1

    Obviously couldn’t have happened to a better group of guys. And I adore the lottery investigator that geared up while recalling the moment the guys got their giant checks.

  • @nukeman444
    @nukeman444 Před rokem +1

    It's thrilling to watch other people win even if it's not me.

  • @yolovideos8084
    @yolovideos8084 Před 4 lety +3

    Kathleen used Wesley Snipes method; " they can't take it if you spend it "- Wesley.

  • @kenbennett4691
    @kenbennett4691 Před 6 lety +5

    In Australia we simply purchase 'Players Card' for Lotto. In results to this you will always be in touch with your winnings.

  • @mrwoodmen15
    @mrwoodmen15 Před 4 lety +1

    Great story!
    Cheers from Dallas 🇺🇸

  • @hvacr24
    @hvacr24 Před 3 lety +1

    The need to make a movie from this experience and keep the money flowing in their direction $$
    Congratulations men!!

  • @bryantzerrato8255
    @bryantzerrato8255 Před 4 lety +3

    i hope they gave the guy who looked for them a little gift

  • @starlight7830
    @starlight7830 Před 7 lety +37

    So did the Chun's get convicted?

    • @Thurston86
      @Thurston86 Před 5 lety +35

      Even though this comment is a year old, I thought I would answer for anybody else wondering. All 3 Chungs were found guilty of fraud. The store owner, Ken Chung received a 10 month sentence (the judge couldn’t prove he was involved in the $12.5 million scam). His father, Jun-Chul and sister Kathleen (who were involved in the $12.5 million) received 7 years and 4 years respectively.
      Source: torontosun.com/news/local-news/mandel-family-sentenced-to-prison-for-12-5-m-lottery-scam

    • @Hitly96
      @Hitly96 Před 5 lety +1

      Mass.Shadows justice served, thanks

    • @jazb290
      @jazb290 Před 5 lety +9

      "And they’ll be back in court next month as the judge hears arguments about restitution and forfeiture. Court heard the attorney general has already seized about $8 million from the family and is seeking a total of $14.85 million - the $12.5 million plus interest that the OLG had to pay out to the true winners in 2011"
      From the link provided by Mass.Shadows

    • @Goodhealthyoga
      @Goodhealthyoga Před 5 lety +2

      wow 4 years in easy prison for 12 m,illion

    • @markinnes4264
      @markinnes4264 Před 5 lety

      @@Goodhealthyoga J, most of the money has been recovered

  • @carlasabyan6010
    @carlasabyan6010 Před 4 lety +2

    This is an awesome story 😊

  • @dy7023
    @dy7023 Před rokem +1

    So glad olg don't give up on investigating the crooks for stealing from actual winners.

  • @islandgirl5762
    @islandgirl5762 Před 6 lety +8

    35:59 She walks like she shattered her pants.

  • @maktry
    @maktry Před 5 lety +11

    Fortune cookie say, "Karma is a b****., that works full time in street corners!"

  • @danhansen9340
    @danhansen9340 Před rokem +1

    It happened to me once back in 1985 or 86 in surrey B.C , the store keeper told me i had won 10 dollars, but before she told me that , i saw her eyes buldge with surprise. I took the 10 bucks and did not think more about it.Then about 3 or 4 weeks later my sister in law told me that the store owner had won the 649 jackpot and closed the store.... To this day i still believe that winning ticket was stolen from me. I guess it is way too late to prove any such thing. Oh well I have had a pretty good life anyway. Mind you it sure would have been nice.

  • @gws259
    @gws259 Před 3 lety +1

    Love the fact they all went through the process together an get to enjoy it as a unit an bond.and kudos to the dart sys maker