Instrument Makers Vise build - Hemingway kits
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
- In this video I build an instrument makers vise from Hemingway kits. It's used for holding small parts for hand work.
Vice kit;
www.hemingwaykits.com/HK2460
Tailstock dieholder;
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Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
0:50 Machining the casting
04:46 Clamp ring and spindle
10:33 Clamping knobs
19:56 Vice Block
23:24 Vice Jaws
28:29 Painting the casting
30:52 Chemical blueing
31:20 Final assembly
32:34 Using the instrument makers vice
33:27 Conclusion
I really enjoy your tools and accessory builds
Thanks David, much appreciated
Me too i hope they become more frequent
I agree. I really wish i could find one for the mk3 tool and cutter grinder. Its one i will probably invest in first and would really like to see what all it entails before hand... *cough cough* 😬
@@smashyrashy The plan is that these will become more frequent, unfortunately the day job gets in the way!!!
Nice build. A maker will ALWAYS see the flaws. Accepting them is the hard part.
Thanks. Yes indeed!
That was a super build, but I laughed to myself about how critical you were of your paint job, because I’m the same way. I would love to be as good at finish work as you and maybe someday I will get there.
Happy new subscriber!
Thanks! Welcome aboard!
I like your work and the fact you show your mistakes is why i just subscribed!!
Thanks! Glad to have you on board!
Great video and vise build! This was the 1st of your videos I've watched. Looking forward to checking out the rest.
Thanks! Good to have you watching
I'll always watch a good Hemingway kits video! Great work.
Thanks, appreciated!
Very nicely built, enjoying the Hemingway kits builds .Thank you
Thanks!
So good! I appreciate you showing us your mistakes, as we all have to recover from those gaffs on occasion.
Thanks, much appreciated!
You produced a great vise, well done. I enjoyed watching it very much, thank you Jonesey, you increased my enthusiasm for mechanics. I have an old emko mill, now because of you I will fix it and start using it. I have a lot of work to do 😂
That’s great to hear! Best of luck, let me know how it goes!
@@joneseymakes Sure ✌🏻 Stay safe and have a great day.
Great video - excellent pacing, many would have turned into a 2- or 3-parter, but you get through it all at a good lick without missing out anything important really -bet it took you a good while to edit it. The vice looks really good, and the paint job is quite good enough for a shop tool. Thanks for posting.
Thanks, yes this one was quite some time in the making.
Excellent job. TOP.
Many thanks!
Greetings, Jonesey, I've come over from Inheritance Machining and I have to say I am not disappointed. Even a few minutes in where you're starting milling the casting (a good electromagnet will take care of that problem no sweat) I've already subscribed to your channel and am planning on going back through your other produced works as if this video is anything to measure by, you'll be an excellent addition to my watchlist. Have a wonderful day!
Thank you so much for the kind feedback, much appreciated! Glad to have you on board!
Looks Great! Enjoyed watching, thanks for your time.
Thanks for watching!
Nicely done. I'm really looking forward to seeing your rebuild of the horizontal dividing head
Thanks, that’s in the pipeline!
This was a great video and the part looks great.Thanks
Thanks very much!
Nicely done, nicely presented. Thanks for making the video.
Thanks for watching!
Great work Jonesey!! Your vid’s are great! Looking forward the next one!!
Thanks Jason! Appreciate the feedback.
Love the pace of your videos, cheers.
Much appreciated!
Excellent channel! Thanks for such great content
Thanks Justin, much appreciated!
Brilliant! Very well done!
Many thanks!
Perfect video about a perfect kit. Thanks a lot.
👌👍🖖
Thanks!
I am considering doing this for a filing vise for small parts. I just watched Adam Savage make most of it. You are much easier for me to watch.
Thanks! Much appreciated.
Another fabulous example of not only your engineering skills, but also your excellent video skills. The Vice is a joy to see. Well done. 👏👏👍😀
Thanks very much!
You make it look so easy!! A very enjoyable video. This is on my Want It list!
Thanks!!
Jonesey thanks for the inspiration! I made this without buying the kit using an old 1” high pressure black iron steam tee pipe. I welded pipe to a cast steel base using silicon bronze welding rod with a bit of 300 degree F preheat. It is very robust. I did have to sleeve the tee with a bit of brass as inside casting on the tee is very rough. I did go with all Imperial threads I’m in USA. Mine has a larger base with tee-slot bolts to mount to my mill table. It does everything and then some.
Sounds awesome! I'd like to see a picture of that.
Enjoyable video, displaying the ups and downs of finish and precision. Thanks for taking the time,.
Glad you enjoyed it, many thanks
Very nice build. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
Thanks, will do!
Excellent video, filming and editing top notch, commentary very clear and concise and no annoying music! well done.
Thanks, much appreciated!
Nicely done. You did a great work 😉😉
Thank you! Cheers!
Superbly done! We use the Eclipse instrument vice. It's very useful but finicky when changing position. The Hemingway vice looks much better in this respect.
Thanks! I'm pleased with mine
Nice job, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Just ran across your channel thanks to the YT algorithm and I'm very happy for the find. Well done. Subbed!
Glad to have you on board!
Great video great work. Not much else needs to be said. Good luck with your channels growth
Thanks!
Great work
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice job and great video!
Thanks!
@@joneseymakes - Could you make some more videos? I’ve finished watching all yours now ;-)
Perfect work 👌🏻 ❤❤❤❤
Thanks 😄
Greetings from Kansas City area. I enjoyed this video very much. Nice macro camera work - better than most CZcams machinist videos. For your trivia bank of semi-useful information, here in the US some commonly available inch tap / die sizes will be 1/2-13-UNC, 1/2-20-UNF, 3/8-16-UNC and 3/8-24-UNF. Metric makes a lot of sense and I find myself using it frequently. Hope that thumb has healed nicely. Thank you for sharing your work.
Thanks for the feedback and the info on threads. Very useful to know!
fabulous tool build
Thanks Simon!
I like the vice. Really cool. Your wood working skills aren’t to shabby either!
Thanks for giving the bolt diameter and the thread pitch for the metric bolts/shafts. For me it helps me to understand or see it with my minds eye. If that makes sense? It helps me to learn the metric fastener system.
Great job and thanks for sharing.
Thanks, much appreciated!
Good work
Thanks!
I think id mill the bottom of the rectangle to be square with the bore . You did a super job on the build. It looks absolutely beautiful and the box sets it off like a super precision tool..
Thanks, much appreciated!
The QR code is such a great idea
Thanks!
Hey, from here in Oklahoma, it looks mint. 😊
Thanks! Much appreciated!
So cool ❤
Thanks!
Thanks!
nice !
cheers ben
Thanks Ben!
Классная работа)
Спасибо!
You can add a couple thrust bearings between the scale body and the nut, and increase the downforce by a factor of 4 while maintaining the same feel.
In case you need to
That's a really good suggestion, thanks for that.
Gday, top job, I can honestly say if I painted that it wouldn’t be any where near as good as you did, great build, cheers
Cheers Matty, been enjoying your recent boring head build. Keep up the good work mate!
Really nice build! But I have say after seeing the finished project that those locking/adjustment knobs would look fantastic in brass.
Thanks. Yes they would look great in brass!
What doesn’t look better in brass, except chrome? 😁
Nice work, only change I would make to the kit is substitute gauge plate for the vise jaws so they could be hardened.
Thanks. That would be a great upgrade.
Really nice job, regardless of any paint blemishes. I think I would have left the knobs bright steel and coated with some lacquer or even anodized aluminum.
Thanks! They did look good in steel I think.
nicely done
loved the use of the DRO bolt circle function to make the knobs. Its probably not quite as precise as a rotary table or spindexer but for something like this its a damn clever solution.
well done.
Thanks very much, appreciated
@@joneseymakes No prob
keep the projects coming.
Since your into Hemmingway kits do you have any plans to make any of their engines?
Steam, Aero,....
@@tonywilson4713 That was the plan at some point yes, although it will be quite an undertaking. Which do you think would make the most interesting content?
@@joneseymakes I don't want to send you on a rampage because I don't know where you are at in the engine building game or even where you're located. I'm guessing Britain by the accent which means you have 2 suppliers (lucky bugger) but there's some kits I'd do if I was looking at my first engines. Also I am still at the "I want my shop soon as I get a place to set it up stage" so for me so far its all been watching others and looking at what I want to do. So a lot of what's below are the things I'd like to do.
I'll start with the other supplier across the Atlantic.
Over at PM Research there's the #2 and #3 which you can get as aluminium castings which saves a bucket. There's quite a few vids on the #3 so there's lots to reference. The #2 is a wobbler so there's not much to get wrong. The #1 is more expensive and has a quite tricky main bearing that's angled at 45deg. Both Blondihacks and Joe Pie have done this engine so there's heaps of reference bids to watch.
Back in Britain you have Hemmingway and Stuart.
Hemmingway has lots of complex engines with expensive material kits but also have options. 2 Engines I want to do are the
- Jones .605 which is a model aero engine. 1) because I have a background in model aeroplanes and 2) because Mark Presling did a similar engine so there's an excellent reference to consult.
- The Cygnet Royal 3 cylinder radial engine because it looks really cool and isn't too expensive as a kit. Unfortunately there's no vids of this being done by anyone but that its only question.
Stuart has an incredible array of engines some affordable and others you feel like you'd be giving a kidney to afford *BUT* they have a great reputation and there's lots of vids of people making them.
There's so many there its really a matter of cost and where you are at in terms of what you can handle skill set and tooling wise. they have a couple of small wobblers that are pretty low cost and there's a few like the 10H which are on special right now.
The one Stuart kit I'd like to see done, but its NOT CHEAP is the Sirius engine that's based on engines used in racing hydroplanes. Keith Appleton has repaired and rejuvenated a couple of them so there's some reference vids on this and for the cost you'd want some reference.
If you want to do a complex Stuart there's the D10 2 cylinder vertical engine that Joe Pie is doing right now so there's a great set of reference vids for that engine. Its also on special right now.
On other Stuart engines Andrew Whale (in Yorkshire) has done a couple of the Beam engines. he's an amateur but a really nice guy who's very honest with his advice. He's now mainly doing gas engines and his channel is worth watching.
Among the Stuarts there's some engines I haven't seen anyone do but they are very interesting but also can be very expensive. The James Coombes, Stuart Real and Williamson all look interesting but aren't cheap either.
Other than there's no vids on making it the Hemmingway Cygnet Royal is one I'd like to see because its just not like any of the other steam engines.
Hope that doesn't confuse you too much.
@@tonywilson4713 Thanks for that, great advice. I actually have a Stuart 10V kit sitting in the drawer (and their smallest engine, can't remember the number) so am looking to build those on the channel at some point soon.
Don’t care about finger prints. Great project nicely done
Thanks very much!
I always have my shopvac handy when I machine cast iron
Nice! :)
Thanks! 😄
I watch a lot of channels like this one and they’re great. I’d like to know what percentage of your projects are for making more devices for your machine shop?
At the moment approximately 100% :-) I do have plans to move over to other types of projects soon though so stay tuned!
A fibre washer between the mating faces will allow for much better tightening
Good idea, I'll try that, thanks.
Brilliant job as usual. What's the thinking behind mild steel jaws though?
Thanks Mark. That’s just what got shipped with the kit. I’ve just got a surface grinder so might make another set, harden and grind them.
Well done, all around! 👍🏻. The QR code was an especially nice touch to the box!
Do you have the capability to make a small metal machinery name tag with your makers mark? Drilled with 2 holes and attached with those tiny hemispherical domed head “rivets” that simply are tapped into shallow blind holes you’d drill in the side of the vice. Nothing wrong with your sticker but IMHO, a metal tag would put it over the top making it on par with anything commercially available!
Name plates are something I am looking at, you're right, would look much better
3/8-20 is still an odd thread pitch here in America. When i make my kit, I'm going 3/8-24 UNF. It's easier to come by.
Thanks, good to know.
Awesome build. I am curious, what mill do you have?
It’s a Warco Super Major
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Welcome on board!
Great work! Ive got a lot of inspiration from your vids mate so thank you! Ive reached out to Hemingway (twice now) to ask them if they sell just the plans as the postage to Australia is too much for me. They haven't responded so was wondering if you know whether they do or not? Cheers!
Glad to hear it thanks! I don't think they sell plans separately unfortunately.
@@joneseymakes Oh bummer! Thanks for replying:)
Have you been tempted by the Hemingway speed increaser kit? Would love to see how you find it. Great video thanks.
That does appeal yes, I'll see about getting a kit.
Look forward to it.
Its Amazing hemingway always use strange sizes..?
Often yes
what do you think about that tail stock die holder design, but for taps?
I think that sounds like a great idea. Perhaps I’ll design one.
I dont think those little wooden boxes will last long after youre gone but the tiols will for sure
Haha, indeed. Thanks for watching.
👍👍😎👍👍
Are there any good desktop mini mills that are capable of machining oil hardening tool steel (440C, O1, A36?
I don’t have that much experience with mini mills so I’m probably not the best person to ask. I have experience with mini lathes and cutting 01. It would just about do it with the right speeds and feeds but surface finish was a problem. Rigidity is usually the problem.
Great job man , shop tour needed...;-)
Thanks! I’ll get around to that once I’ve tidied it up a bit!
Hi
good job.
What is brand of your lathe?
It’s a Warco GH1330. There is a review on my channel if you’re interested.
Odleg Caliper !
looks like a magnetic clamp for the indicator. would you make one?)
I will consider it yes
How is the vice knob secured to the threaded rod? I didn't see anything at the end other than screwing the knob on. No pin, or even Lock-Tite.
I did use a bit of locktite, forgot to show that.
Bloody hell, USA shipping costs more than the kit! Oh well, lovely to watch.
That’s a shame. Thanks for watching though James!
Hello! what brand of chemical bluing did you use?
Hi. I use Dykem
Can you use this instrument maker’s vise to make a vise maker’s instrument?
Ha! I’m sure you could!
Can I ask which product you use to blacken the components on this build please?
It's a cold blue solution by phillips. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203100723995?hash=item2f49bf1b1b:g:i9kAAOSwAnhfV0pO&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwM5HzZLIPtYa0N%2FUWQgxCOpWSHselPtFSGD13AfUFK4WretU0idXX%2FdRO0lNivvJJyaRk4r%2FZrC7NJdxS9hn3XF%2FDRd7TNVZTdj4oYR7tzqcNaCEQe%2BnKWVGEn2W0WRNxjnWvqyZRArs9PNCYOPnAYLWKXVqFSw%2FuZ1JWj1FgOQNVbubp8hFlT5TD%2FCWjrIplZOPEs0yT3%2B0p6QNndRqPJafnE7zrwyT67IkdiVWX1WmczfhIEcDLdrCmWnZLgqx2w%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABlBMUPi107qIYw
@@joneseymakes Thanks, v helpful.
What is the name of the solution you used to oxidize and give the final color?
It’s just called cold blue solution. There are a number of brands available.
Hmmmm how would you go about adding a 3rd axis?
I don’t think it’s needed for most work. You can get almost any angle you want as it is.
What bluing solution did you use?
Dykem
@@joneseymakes Dykem makes a bluing solution?
I cannot find a bluing solution from Dykem. Are you sure that’s what you are using to turn the metal parts black?
@@justindewoody Sorry, I thought you meant the marking out fluid I use. For blueing the parts I'm using some really old stuff that is meant for guns. I forget the brand, apologies.
I am from india how could i purchase it from you is there any procdhere or any way for it please let me know it from you i would be very greatful to you thanking you
There is a link in the description to where you can buy the kit.
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what is it'
what does it do'
LOL Naaaaaaaa it's great 👍
Lol ya goofy m8te from Australia 😆
‘Gday mate!
The casting is of decent quality?!?
Yes mine was pretty good
The casting marks looked pretty rough before you milled them clean. But then the totality of my knowledge on this comes from watching other make and restoration videos so what do I know. =p Very nice job with the build!
@@SurfCatten Yes, it wasn't quite as good as some of the other castings from Hemingway.
Seems to me that your painting should maybe switch to powder coating. It requires more equipment, but results are easier.
Yes I’d like to try that.
28:33 Would you say you'd need helping adVICE?
Haha, yes indeed!
Too bad Hemingway never answers my e-mails. I'm looking to buy the plans because sending the kits to brazil is too expensive.
Sorry to hear that
Vise
There is some confusion about the spelling. According to this article 'Vice' is correct in British english: proofed.co.uk/writing-tips/spelling-tips-vice-or-vise/#:~:text=British%20English%20uses%20vice%20in,the%20gripping%20tool%20is%20vise. But then this article contradicts that so I don't know!!!!: grammarist.com/spelling/vice-vise/
Interesting video and useful tool. Mark Presling (@Preso58) uses a process called Parkerizing for items like this -> czcams.com/video/922RePcv9P0/video.html It appears to be durable and protects from rust in humid conditions. It's more work than cold blueing - but it's an option.
I've seen that video. I would like to try that. Thanks for the tip.
Metric Threads? Subscribed! Hehehe
Thanks for the video, sharing your great ideas and work and greetings from Germany, Jonesey!:)
Haha! Thanks! Good to have you watching.
You are way too hard on yourself, the finish looks great, you made a beautiful heirloom quality tool
Ahhh thanks Mike. Appreciate that.
Vice? This is far too virtuous to be a vice. Looks a lot more like a vise to me. But I see it's wrong in the link for the kit, too...
Now I've had a chance to watch the video. Great work! I can see how the finer threads are an improvement, giving greater clamping force for less physical effort. A vise like this would be helpful to me, because I often need to hand shape pieces of metal, and being able to quickly and easily adjust the angle at which the work is held would help me.
It is a great little tool, very handy. In terms of the spelling it looks like I stand corrected :-) grammarist.com/spelling/vice-vise/
cool
Thanks!
A nice little project you did. Do you think it would be cheaper if you just send away for the casting and supply your own raw materials?
Depends if you already have the raw stock in the right sizes. I’m not sure you could get the casting separately.
@@joneseymakes Thanks for the message mate