So sad at how disrespectful these comments are I have train in this art I am buy no means a master of it but I will say this art helps in life situations and combat situations for the ppl with doubt In there heart I won't advise you 2 foolishly challenge em it be bad day at the office
This is because there will always be imposters who can't simply shut up and train. Regardless of the art form, there will always be the idiots who will never master anything but punching and kicking. We live in an MMA drunk society, where for some Martial arts has to be about complete violence rather than mastery of the self and self discipline.
@@WritingEliteGaming it's no wonder that people react to these sorts of nonsense teachings. it claims to be self defense, but is not realistic in the least. it should be more honest with what it is: a martial art choreography or historical dance, and nothing else. in contrast, MMA is very influential because it tests and it proves. fine if you'd like to do some historical ninja sparring (I can sort of understand that), only you don't even do sparring!
@@gordonlekfors2708 Have you ever studied a traditional Martial art. If not you should remain silent. MMA isn't a martial art. It's a mix of traditional martial arts, the very same arts you are attempting to defame.
Absolutely 💯 Never mind them they have no idea what they are talking about for one thing. This is a great art and for the doubters & critics this art has been used very successfully on the street. I personally know people who have defended themselves in real fights using Ninpo.It was never meant for competition and fighting in the ring. I don't think you'll find any actual ninjutsu practitioners who desire to be world champion kickboxers or MMA stars seeking fame. If you know what a real Shinobi warrior is the idea of that is pretty absurd and contrary to how they operate. And have you ever heard the story of the Jiu Jitsu guys who went to Japan to challenge the teachers there ? They both fought Nagato ( actually wasn't really a challenge because he did not accept. They attacked and he had no choice but to defend himself because they would not take no for an answer ) and it didn't end so well for them.
@@gordonlekfors2708 yes MMA works in the cage. I don't care how rough it gets it's still not a street fight. Until they add weapons, multiple attackers, dirty fighting and get rid of the referee and the weight classes it will forever remain a combat sport. Keep in mind it is a SPORT it's not a real fight on the street with no rules. Also you would have to replace the padded floor with concrete. And the art of Ninjutsu, contrary to what you want to believe, does work in real fighting. Just because you have no knowledge about it doesn't make it untrue. But I will forgive you because you just don't know any better. There are plenty of ex military and law enforcement guys who would disagree with you. I also know of at least one former bouncer who also would say your wrong.
Hatsumi Sensei forever the best! HIs ease and elegance of movements is incredible. It almost looks like his uke are falling to oblige him, but he has full control over how much pain they are in at any moment.
He's a bullshitter who even in his prime would be battered senseless by an amateur boxer with less than a years serious training behind him..... and you have fallen for his fakery.
i like the ankle picks they mix in with their taijutsu. i remember a video where a bujinkan guy did a series of combos and some of them were entries into ankle picks. pretty dope
Todos los que critican al maestro Hatsumi o al ninjitsu no tienen idea de nada, es como si un ruso quisiera cantar flamenco, pues lo mismo, primero hay que ser humilde y ver que lo que el sensei transmite son conceptos de lucha muy efectivos, tampoco es necesario en estos tiempos herir a nadie en una demostración. El budo no es como mma, ni pretende serlo, el budo es una forma de vida
Muy efectivo😂😂 como digas amigo.......yo e entrenado jiu jitsu por un tiempo soy sinta azul con dos rayas y ahora empese a practicar boxeo para mma dime donde encuentro a este anciano para probar su efectividad vamos a ver cuando lo tumbe al suelo si se puede parar.....
that ego is writing a check you can't cash . My boy . They're falling due to triangulation points . Our body will not endure the pain of resistance from doing a counter movement.
martial arts...are death arts.or survive arts... and an art...is more than fixed steps...one starts with fixed situations..a..b.c movements to go to the freedom of his own endless way...innumerable combinatios...the old master have experience and have seen the game many times....mixed martial arts is also with rules...protection ...gloves....referee...something that never existed out there in martial periods....
If you guys who are Bujinkan detractors spent twenty years training with a true Bujinkan Sensei, you would not have such a bad case of verbal diarrhoea.
Does it take that long to hypnotize you into looking like stunt actors being comically thrown around by an elderly man who barely touches you? I would put my money on a elderly Japanese Jiujitsu master any day over this delusional old ninja.
@Danny C Illumini Well Danny Boy, I'm 72, anytime you want to put your money where you're mouth is come see me face to face, then we shall see if you are capable of backing up your mouth.
I have just started taking this art and I can see how some of the movse will work but i am in agreement that nobody is going to leave there arm out there to be grabbed and wrist locks are close to impossible to do on someone unless you strike them first to soften them up.
That's for training, you won't go full speed or practical/real attack/defence until you've learned a few things, so you won't get injured. Plus, Masters can be a bit pompous at a seminar because it makes things interesting and adds a bit of character and fun. And, they're Masters. They've been through all sorts of stuff already.
It will make sense to you once you progress further into the art believe I was on the same mindset until I trained with some of the Shihan at Hombu and in the US
This is a “historical” martial art. I can respect that. We should all respect it if we are truly martial artists or fans thereof. When it comes to self defense; I become more particular to what is useful is my current environment. In the U.S., firearms would be consider no. 1 in a life/death scenario followed by a highly proven “effective” & “modernized” tactical system. Personally, I remember those lessons on hard styles and soft styles. Effective “Hard” styles being force against force systems i.e., MMA, Krav Maga, etc. I consider the soft styles to be Gracie Jiu Jitsu (GJJ), & BJJ (as there is a differentiation between this and GJJ).
@nikto45 ofc, there are information of all kind of things, some says it's correct and some says it's doubtful, but since the main source, Japanese Government, determine that it's legit the discussion was over.
A room full of almost a hundred full grown men. Probably paying $700-$800 for a day long seminar. And then asking to be defeated by sticking their arms out in awkward, obnormal postures. Does anyone else see something wrong with this picture? It looked like at any moment he would demonstrate levitation or something. This was a fad forty years ago. But some people never learn. That was sad.
I disagree this demonstration he's showing is a different take on martial arts with weapons but his overall message is the same which is using your body to move rather than waste energy fighting. I get it from what your seeing it looks like rehearsed movement but if you look closely his students are committed in their punches or whatever attack they have for Soke and Soke would move at the last second precisely in order to take his opponents space and control by having 3 points of contact, believe me it's not easy learning to do it that way it's pretty scary and for him to do it with ease is absolutely amazing
De acordo com pesquisas antes de ser ninja hatsumi quando tinha 27 anos foi comandante do exercito marinha e aeronautica veterano de guerra e instrutor dos exercitos depois conheceu takamatsu sensei mesmo sendo instrutor temia em ser derrotado ai hatsumi pesquisou a arte do ninjutsu e no japao conheceu takamatsu sensei que le mostrou as artes de um verdadeiro ninja hoje hatsumi e da 34 linhagem togakure e lider das 9 escolas em treinos antigos nos outros videos do youtube ele demonstra um salto de 3 ou 4 metros de altura pesquisem pra ver se e verdade pois eu ja pesquisei isso e real o ninja nao e considerado uma arte marcial esta alem disso e o caminho do guerreiro em guerrilhas
Verdadero ninja ? No sé si te enteras que los ninja desaparecieron hace cientos de años, hatsumi no es un ninja , ninjutsu no es un arte marcial , el principal roll de un ninja es el espionaje y no veo eso en bujinkan , siento romper tus sueños.
There is more showmanship & hero worship in these videos compared to 20 years ago where it was about efficiency. I understand Hatsumi is older now & I respect all that but with the evolution of flow demonstrations (which should be practiced & developed anyhow) the opposition, or attacker, should be more genuine, less 'fall guy', maintain their balance & counter strikes so Hatsumi has to position himself better too. Why the hell is everyone clapping? This has become a circus, a show. The students must understand why they are there. If it's to be in awe & hero worship then ok, that's evident, but if it is to develop understanding then first find yourself & then take ideas, practice & evolve.
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Solo veo faltas de respeto desde el desconocimiento, bujinkan no promueve violencia, y el ninjutsu se entrena principalmente para que no muera, ya que hoy dia no es tan funcional. Todos vuestros comentarios demuestran que no valeis para las artes marciales y que no teneis ni idea de lo que hablais. Primero probadlo y luego opinad, que teneis la lengua muy larga. Bujinkan es una filosofía de vida, si lo que buscais es agredir a personas buscaos otra disciplina.
There are good ideas and skills that come from this system. I trained in it for only a short time, about a year, but for everything I disliked about it there were realistic and good concepts as well. Honestly the biggest thing that surprised me was the structure and order in which things were done. I was expecting things to be more free and interpritational when it was very sturctured. Not the worst system I have ever seen, to be sure.
I feel compelled to answer for the sake of future martial artists. You trained at a particular school that does not - as not any one does outside of Japan - represent Bujinkan Budo. Where I train, you are taught not to follow a kata, but to develop an understanding of the human body and of space, which allows you ultimately to flexibly react to any situation. This is also at the heart of Soke's teachings.
LO ADMIRO,PERO NO LO VEO EFECTIVO,LO SIENTO ES MI OPINIÓN ,LE FALTA MÁS REALISMO Y ENTRENAMIENTO CON SPARRING, PERO QUE NO COOPERE CON ÉL,ES AÑADIR ESE PUNTO QUE PIENSO QUE LE FALTA A ESE ARTE...UN SALUDO
@ahau oxlahun yo lo he comprobado en la calle ,por mi trabajo y he reducido a gente porque no se lo esperan...pero todo no funciona,yo practico para la calle 4 ó técnicas las que he comprobado que funcionan,lo demás para el dojo..también depende de la persona,más que el sistema que practiques....si eres bueno,eres bueno con lo que practiques un saludo
@@zapas3429 .. tienes razon aunque antes de que llegaran cummings . Hayes y varios disipulos mas nuestra essensias y valores eran otra realidad . Creeme yo pertenesco a la vieja Academia de hatsumi donde . No existia el Dinero .... Ahora ellos perdieron la realidad de nuestra essensias y se an convertido en Guros de ninjutsu .... Triste ver esto . Totalmente ridiculo 😏😏😏😏🤔
He mostly uses hidden weapons, do you actually listen and watch? A poisoned nail/ring on my thumb going into the thighs wins every street fight, so does a bear paw. You simply are to stupid to understand what he is doing.
😂😂😂😂 i would like him to make some sparring with some mma fighters... May be there are beautiful and funny techniques but let s be seriously sometimes...
Ninjutsu is not only sparring in the first Clip is he using tekagi you can catch swords or climbing trees with it.Ninjutsu use every dirty move to kill the enemy btw he is the grandmaster (Sōke) and 89 years old be seriously this fight against the MMA fighter would be not fair.And in my opinion is the taijutsu in the Bujinkan Budo taijutsu better then MMA my favourite is the Taihenjutsu👍...
@@FireThowie May be i was not cleared when I written my sentences. I don't criticize Taijutsu techniques but the way to learn them. Ninja was people whose their job was to kill, spy and sabotage places. So the techniques had to be discreet, quick and effective (in one or two moves and that's it, the enemy is down). The Taijutsu techniques had not been created to fight in a ring against someone on guard. Taijutsu had been created to hit in discretion. In other words, the Taijutsu techniques are very effective when the enemy doesn't expect the ninja and that's exclusively the moment when the ninja will act. For example, a ninja will act from behind with a hit of knife in the carotid. In a fight, a ninja doesn't fight, he leaves for coming back later when the enemy will be focusing on someone or something, other than the ninja. It's exactly like self defense, it has not been created to fight with someone who is attacking the victim. It has been created to act when the aggressor will just bother the victim and doesn't expect being hit by the victim. So when I've written I would like him to fight with an mma champion, I meant that the way of the master to demonstrate the techniques is like he would be ready to have fight, which is wrong. Of course you can for example lie the enemy with a rope if he is not fighting and he doesn't expect something from the ninja or doesn't see the ninja, but it's wrong to think that in a fight you can lie someone because of the fluidity of the fight. There is a really easy experience to prove what I say : just try on someone who is fighting well and you will see that it's not possible. Finally, He just makes believe the student to be ready to fight, so he is not honest, that is really disappointing from someone who has a kind of reputation. It's no respectfull for the student and for the ninja ancestors.
@@vladm6848 he is showing traditional katas in bujinkan is also Judo throws like seōnage today are this techniques which he showed not good for combat but other techniques from BBT(Bujinkan budo taijutsu) are good for it. Did you learn all techniques of all 9 ryu’s(school) I think no There are sooo much techniques but in a fight you must fight instinctively when you know much techniques you know how you win the fight.
@@canalpolitica1015 como se nota que no los has vivido en tus propias carnes, esos movimientos son reales y el dolor que puede llegar a causar ni lo imaginas pero eso es muy complicado de apreciar en un video hay muchisimo trabajo y conocimiento en cada movimiento, esta mostrando las técnicas por lo tanto ataca el uke ( el que recibe ) y el desarrolla la técnica porque está enseñando no haciendo una exhibición pero te aseguro que ni se tira al suelo queriendo ni finge el dolor ni un segundo así que la gente debería dejar de comentar cosas que no conoce.
@@canalpolitica1015 Son ejercicios, técnicas o sea son herramientas. Luego esta en cada prácticamente que hacer. Durante las técnicas el que uke que es el que ayuda al que las practica o sea, el que tira los puños, patadas o agarres para que el defensor reaccione, este las hace suave y se tira obviamente, o sea, ofrece mínima resistencia y luego con los niveles se aplica más resistencia. Pero de todas formas se deja. En Ninjutsu todas las técnicas están enfocadas al uso de armas, por eso, muchas veces cuando ven técnicas con manos vacías parecen ridículas pero es que están pensadas para grabar en el practicante los movimientos con armas blancas.
Some good techniques in there , cool instructor too. but this is a good example of the culture of cult-like idolization of instructors. The overly cooperative demonstrations and techniques themselves suggest a style that may not be grounded in reality, and certainly would not work well against a good fighter. These styles are better practiced to preserve the foundations and traditions of the old school. Itd be safer to train mma to be an effective fighter.
MMA is a sport, it's not real fight and almost no real fights is like a MMA match (2 equal opponent facing each other and start at the same time). Go buy a gun if you want to be a "effective fighter". If you want entertainment buy a ticket to a MMA match.
Se você treinasse ninjutsu não falaria isso. O ninjutsu trabalha com pontos de dor e dor causa fraqueza e desequilíbrio. O ninjutsu é de certa forma a acupuntura da luta. Trabalha com pontos que causam externo desconforto , portanto o oponente fica vulnerável. Não existe uma arte marcial que seja soberana. Cada uma tem os seus pontos fortes e fracos. Principalmente quando você não se identifica, não intenciona, aí é que não funciona mesmo.
@Jhon Mc Zaf Meu caro... Eu nunca fiz e nem desejo fazer sparring. Eu não sou lutador profissional. Admiro demais a arte ninja por ser uma arte milenar ( desde o séc vi no período feudal ). E naquela época justamente pela versatilidade e ampla visão de luta , era sim a mais completa das artes marciais. Se você pegar um bom trocador de socos , o cara é capaz de derrotar qualquer alta graduação de qualquer arte marcial. O shidoshi Hatsumi é um grande estudioso da arte ninja , inovou em muitas coisas, no que concede as oito disciplinas do ninjutsu. Mas , tem golpes aí que de fato não são nada funcionais, por mais dor que você provoque no oponente ,ele terá um tempo para reagir. Assim como muitos gênios de idade avançada: Em qualquer coisa que se faça, seja lá música, luta ,pintura... É tão farto o conhecimento que uma hora eles começam a dourar a Pirula e inventar coisas nada funcionais e práticas. Alguns dos golpes que ele elaborou e foram demonstrados aí , realmente é mais pela história de vida dele no Bunjikan e da tradição das artes ninja tal consideração para ele,de seus discípulos.
@Jhon Mc Zaf Se você levar ao pé da letra , NENHUMA arte marcial usa somente recursos unicamente específicos. Na hora da briga , um karateka não briga como karateka , nem Kung Fu ,nem box ,nem nada... Na hora da porrada ,a consciência corporal é o que mais conta e sim , caso o adversário de bobeira , é possível sim usar a técnica do ninjutsu para quebrar ,lesionar ,desarmar e até matar, assim como qualquer outra arte marcial. Não existe arte marcial completa ,mas sim ,artes que se completam. Todas elas , não importa qual , o maior trabalho que é feito , é o da consciência corporal. Isso envolve reflexo , absorção ,força , resistência ,agilidade... Enfim ... Não é a toa que no MMA todos os lutadores tem conhecimento de mais uma arte marcial , senão , é limitante. Bruce Lee conhecia mais de oito artes marciais por exemplo. Mas ,o ninjutsu somado a Win Chun , ou Taekwondo ,ou hapkido ,ou box chinês , mai taí , é de fato sensacional e extremamente funcional.
Estoy harto de ver tanta demostración agresiva como si se les preparara para una guerra y además éstos que se hacen pasar por maestros demuestran tanta falta de respeto a los practicantes que es un asco. El verdadero Arte Marcial no es así, tratan a las personas como animales y no se porqué tienen a aguantar tanto golpe absurdo y humillante. De ahí a la realidad seguro que no sale lo que enseña. Hay que enseñarles la calma, la tranquilidad, el saber estar en cada momento y transmitir Amor a la gente. " En el Amor no sólo son besos y caricias palo también ". Lo verdadero es transmitir y no enseñar. Una vez un cura viejo de nacionalidad china me dijo que los maestros que enseñan eran personas mediocres y los que transmitían eran los auténticos. Los practicantes que llevan años de experiencia tendrían que crear sus propias técnicas de acuerdo a los principios y leyes de la Naturaleza y del Universo y creer en ellas. No se necesita tanto para vivir con esa seguridad en uno mismo. No busquen fuera sino adentro de uno mismo. Pido disculpas si he ofendido a alguien, no ha sido mi intención. Mucha suerte. .
Oh for fucks sake half the time there throwing themselves Togaure ninjutsu ya can find sod all about if it's legit only budjinkan old days hayes it was good godai and learning it as a defence art then every yank etc got in on it 15 dan ok for old Japanese shihan but there are 10th dan in this art that are OK than there are the others that go 3 times a yr to Japan and go up a dan all about money these days
Its so embarracing to watch. They would not stand a chance against someone with a better training method (boxing, thai boxing, bjj, judo etc). its a joke. Way too many unrealistic techniques and a training method without any reality.
Because it is a _traditional matial_ art, dumbass. Why are people doing fencing in the olympics? They stand no chance against a gun ... and most likely have no fencing gear with them in the pubs they go. The internet, the instrument that really shows how stupid average humans are.
@Danny C Illumini Be honest, put any Japanese Man in a traditional dress and most ninja wanabees will follow him to the grave. People assume he is good because of he is Japanese and not because he has any skills.
@Danny C Illumini I've seen at least 5 threads with you posting this exact comment. Also 20 page long rants, you seem obsessed with this topic you find so frustrating. Calling everyone here a fool while demonstrating your own lack of restraint is laughable. You mentioned mental training. With your "extensive" knowledge on the topic, you would know practicing patience and self control is a core tenant of most martial arts. Compose yourself fool.
@Danny C Illumini Given your proclivity for long hot air filled messages I didn't feel the need to read this, since I never once said the martial art was real. I was simply stating in very plain vanilla terms that you appear to be obsessed to an unhealthy degree with this topic. Having posted the same post 5+ times in the exact same words inserting yourself into conversations to prove a point.
This is a real martial art,you just don't see what's happening and that's the real art ........all done slow to learn proper movement and it does work in real live......
So sad at how disrespectful these comments are I have train in this art I am buy no means a master of it but I will say this art helps in life situations and combat situations for the ppl with doubt In there heart I won't advise you 2 foolishly challenge em it be bad day at the office
This is because there will always be imposters who can't simply shut up and train. Regardless of the art form, there will always be the idiots who will never master anything but punching and kicking. We live in an MMA drunk society, where for some Martial arts has to be about complete violence rather than mastery of the self and self discipline.
@@WritingEliteGaming it's no wonder that people react to these sorts of nonsense teachings. it claims to be self defense, but is not realistic in the least. it should be more honest with what it is: a martial art choreography or historical dance, and nothing else. in contrast, MMA is very influential because it tests and it proves.
fine if you'd like to do some historical ninja sparring (I can sort of understand that), only you don't even do sparring!
@@gordonlekfors2708 Have you ever studied a traditional Martial art. If not you should remain silent. MMA isn't a martial art. It's a mix of traditional martial arts, the very same arts you are attempting to defame.
Absolutely 💯 Never mind them they have no idea what they are talking about for one thing. This is a great art and for the doubters & critics this art has been used very successfully on the street. I personally know people who have defended themselves in real fights using Ninpo.It was never meant for competition and fighting in the ring. I don't think you'll find any actual ninjutsu practitioners who desire to be world champion kickboxers or MMA stars seeking fame. If you know what a real Shinobi warrior is the idea of that is pretty absurd and contrary to how they operate.
And have you ever heard the story of the Jiu Jitsu guys who went to Japan to challenge the teachers there ? They both fought Nagato ( actually wasn't really a challenge because he did not accept. They attacked and he had no choice but to defend himself because they would not take no for an answer ) and it didn't end so well for them.
@@gordonlekfors2708 yes MMA works in the cage. I don't care how rough it gets it's still not a street fight. Until they add weapons, multiple attackers, dirty fighting and get rid of the referee and the weight classes it will forever remain a combat sport. Keep in mind it is a SPORT it's not a real fight on the street with no rules. Also you would have to replace the padded floor with concrete.
And the art of Ninjutsu, contrary to what you want to believe, does work in real fighting. Just because you have no knowledge about it doesn't make it untrue. But I will forgive you because you just don't know any better. There are plenty of ex military and law enforcement guys who would disagree with you. I also know of at least one former bouncer who also would say your wrong.
And that´s how the McDojo started...
Hatsumi Sensei forever the best! HIs ease and elegance of movements is incredible. It almost looks like his uke are falling to oblige him, but he has full control over how much pain they are in at any moment.
He's a bullshitter who even in his prime would be battered senseless by an amateur boxer with less than a years serious training behind him..... and you have fallen for his fakery.
Great to see his relaxed playfullness and perfect positioning.
This is a good video. It's so hard to find usable videos in practicing.
i like the ankle picks they mix in with their taijutsu. i remember a video where a bujinkan guy did a series of combos and some of them were entries into ankle picks. pretty dope
Thank You very much, Sensei! So good! Thank You
This seminar looked like a Steven Segall demonstration. I don't think any of this would work in a real fight
Todos los que critican al maestro Hatsumi o al ninjitsu no tienen idea de nada, es como si un ruso quisiera cantar flamenco, pues lo mismo, primero hay que ser humilde y ver que lo que el sensei transmite son conceptos de lucha muy efectivos, tampoco es necesario en estos tiempos herir a nadie en una demostración. El budo no es como mma, ni pretende serlo, el budo es una forma de vida
Muy efectivo😂😂 como digas amigo.......yo e entrenado jiu jitsu por un tiempo soy sinta azul con dos rayas y ahora empese a practicar boxeo para mma dime donde encuentro a este anciano para probar su efectividad vamos a ver cuando lo tumbe al suelo si se puede parar.....
@@arielrodriguez1892 mma, box nada tienen que ver , son deportes, usan guantes
yo solo puedo certificar que no es ninjutsu, sino un koryu de linaje samurai
@@arielrodriguez1892 mucho ego, no eres un verdadero artista marcial, solo un bravucón que dice bravuconadas
WOW, I taught I was watching and Aikido class. All the students just want to fall to the ground.
that ego is writing a check you can't cash . My boy . They're falling due to triangulation points . Our body will not endure the pain of resistance from doing a counter movement.
@@migythebeast4437 Anytime any place! I can back up whatever I say SON!
martial arts...are death arts.or survive arts...
and an art...is more than fixed steps...one starts with fixed situations..a..b.c movements to go to the freedom of his own endless way...innumerable combinatios...the old master have experience and have seen the game many times....mixed martial arts is also with rules...protection ...gloves....referee...something that never existed out there in martial periods....
If you guys who are Bujinkan detractors spent twenty years training with a true Bujinkan Sensei, you would not have such a bad case of verbal diarrhoea.
Does it take that long to hypnotize you into looking like stunt actors being comically thrown around by an elderly man who barely touches you? I would put my money on a elderly Japanese Jiujitsu master any day over this delusional old ninja.
@Danny C Illumini Well Danny Boy, I'm 72, anytime you want to put your money where you're mouth is come see me face to face, then we shall see if you are capable of backing up your mouth.
@Danny C Illumini Danny Boy, your all talk no action.
@Danny C Illumini danny the internet troll who is ALL talk NO Action, with a very serious case of verbal diarrhoea
@Danny C Illumini even more verbal diarrhoea. Sad sad sad. You really should go and have a lay down, maybe even some sleep, there's a good boy.
i love silat
THAT!! Makes me want to learn & train again!!!
Super vidéo ! 🙂
I have just started taking this art and I can see how some of the movse will work but i am in agreement that nobody is going to leave there arm out there to be grabbed and wrist locks are close to impossible to do on someone unless you strike them first to soften them up.
That's for training, you won't go full speed or practical/real attack/defence until you've learned a few things, so you won't get injured. Plus, Masters can be a bit pompous at a seminar because it makes things interesting and adds a bit of character and fun. And, they're Masters. They've been through all sorts of stuff already.
It will make sense to you once you progress further into the art believe I was on the same mindset until I trained with some of the Shihan at Hombu and in the US
@@jon82489 yeah, try grabbing the wrist of a boxer throwing a punch
@@gordonlekfors2708 don't need to lol
@@jon82489 oh? What would you do to a boxer?
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This is a “historical” martial art. I can respect that. We should all respect it if we are truly martial artists or fans thereof. When it comes to self defense; I become more particular to what is useful is my current environment. In the U.S., firearms would be consider no. 1 in a life/death scenario followed by a highly proven “effective” & “modernized” tactical system.
Personally, I remember those lessons on hard styles and soft styles. Effective “Hard” styles being force against force systems i.e., MMA, Krav Maga, etc. I consider the soft styles to be Gracie Jiu Jitsu (GJJ), & BJJ (as there is a differentiation between this and GJJ).
@nikto45 Japan Gob is not agree with you, they recognise 5 original Ninjutsu schools and Bujinkan is one of it.
@nikto45 As I said, Japan recognise Bujinkan as an original Ninjutsu school, you can accept it or not but that's the fact.
@nikto45 ofc, there are information of all kind of things, some says it's correct and some says it's doubtful, but since the main source, Japanese Government, determine that it's legit the discussion was over.
Are most women where you live raped at gunpoint as well? Or maybe after being beaten, or threatened with a knife?
Grand Master
Tudo ensaiado, quero ver um combate real, esse ninja mais um xarlatão
Ele está ensinando a técnica, né animal.
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A room full of almost a hundred full grown men. Probably paying $700-$800 for a day long seminar. And then asking to be defeated by sticking their arms out in awkward, obnormal postures. Does anyone else see something wrong with this picture? It looked like at any moment he would demonstrate levitation or something. This was a fad forty years ago. But some people never learn. That was sad.
I disagree this demonstration he's showing is a different take on martial arts with weapons but his overall message is the same which is using your body to move rather than waste energy fighting. I get it from what your seeing it looks like rehearsed movement but if you look closely his students are committed in their punches or whatever attack they have for Soke and Soke would move at the last second precisely in order to take his opponents space and control by having 3 points of contact, believe me it's not easy learning to do it that way it's pretty scary and for him to do it with ease is absolutely amazing
Bellissimo da vedere,ma applicarlo in un contesto non collaborativo.... praticamente impossibile....
Masaaki hatsumi is soke of bujakhan ninjitsu would love 2 go 2 Japan and trian there
You would love the true japanese bujakhan training.
Don’t you dare forget to pay at the entrance though!
Sensei
Isso nao e a luta em si esses videos sao colocados em tecnicas basicas mas as reais habilidades so sao demonstradas sem ser ao publico nem com videos
1:48 very important message
De acordo com pesquisas antes de ser ninja hatsumi quando tinha 27 anos foi comandante do exercito marinha e aeronautica veterano de guerra e instrutor dos exercitos depois conheceu takamatsu sensei mesmo sendo instrutor temia em ser derrotado ai hatsumi pesquisou a arte do ninjutsu e no japao conheceu takamatsu sensei que le mostrou as artes de um verdadeiro ninja hoje hatsumi e da 34 linhagem togakure e lider das 9 escolas em treinos antigos nos outros videos do youtube ele demonstra um salto de 3 ou 4 metros de altura pesquisem pra ver se e verdade pois eu ja pesquisei isso e real o ninja nao e considerado uma arte marcial esta alem disso e o caminho do guerreiro em guerrilhas
Verdadero ninja ? No sé si te enteras que los ninja desaparecieron hace cientos de años, hatsumi no es un ninja , ninjutsu no es un arte marcial , el principal roll de un ninja es el espionaje y no veo eso en bujinkan , siento romper tus sueños.
It just a exercise He showed to them.
This is not self defense, it's a martial art, if you want real fights go watch some street fights
What art marcial?
Bujinkan Budo taijutsu
Bullshido
The ministry of weird punches.
Artists
There is more showmanship & hero worship in these videos compared to 20 years ago where it was about efficiency.
I understand Hatsumi is older now & I respect all that but with the evolution of flow demonstrations (which should be practiced & developed anyhow) the opposition, or attacker, should be more genuine, less 'fall guy', maintain their balance & counter strikes so Hatsumi has to position himself better too.
Why the hell is everyone clapping? This has become a circus, a show. The students must understand why they are there. If it's to be in awe & hero worship then ok, that's evident, but if it is to develop understanding then first find yourself & then take ideas, practice & evolve.
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Look at this bullshit 2:45 come onnn!!!
Stepping punches are easily to be controlled, that is why most of them used for demonstrations , why not use suri ashi or sliding and punch?
Hi.
Le sasuke du Mourillon..
leo los comentarios, y ahora resulta que todo es sparring, no se pasen, no todas las técnicas se basan en sparring
Back centuries ago might of work but in modern day no fighting is like that.
Very Cult like
To many students would like to learn straight from him no distraction exept I'm not rich to pay him for personal teaching lmao
I must say, Grand master hatsumes baggy white pants hide his technique quite well
Which seems silly considering he’s supposed to be teaching
O pai do jiraya 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Solo veo faltas de respeto desde el desconocimiento, bujinkan no promueve violencia, y el ninjutsu se entrena principalmente para que no muera, ya que hoy dia no es tan funcional. Todos vuestros comentarios demuestran que no valeis para las artes marciales y que no teneis ni idea de lo que hablais. Primero probadlo y luego opinad, que teneis la lengua muy larga. Bujinkan es una filosofía de vida, si lo que buscais es agredir a personas buscaos otra disciplina.
la bujinkan es una escuela que enseña algunos koryu de linaje samurai, nunca fue ninjtsu. Aceptenlo
São uns otários.
@@senseinorimaki5082 Estás equivocado, dentro de Bujinkan hay 9 diferente escuelas para entrenar y una es Ninjutsu.
OMG who fight like that ?
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There are good ideas and skills that come from this system. I trained in it for only a short time, about a year, but for everything I disliked about it there were realistic and good concepts as well. Honestly the biggest thing that surprised me was the structure and order in which things were done. I was expecting things to be more free and interpritational when it was very sturctured. Not the worst system I have ever seen, to be sure.
I feel compelled to answer for the sake of future martial artists. You trained at a particular school that does not - as not any one does outside of Japan - represent Bujinkan Budo. Where I train, you are taught not to follow a kata, but to develop an understanding of the human body and of space, which allows you ultimately to flexibly react to any situation. This is also at the heart of Soke's teachings.
LO ADMIRO,PERO NO LO VEO EFECTIVO,LO SIENTO ES MI OPINIÓN ,LE FALTA MÁS REALISMO Y ENTRENAMIENTO CON SPARRING, PERO QUE NO COOPERE CON ÉL,ES AÑADIR ESE PUNTO QUE PIENSO QUE LE FALTA A ESE ARTE...UN SALUDO
@ahau oxlahun en parte tienes razón,pero de vez en cuando hay que entrenar con resistencia.un saludo y gracias por contestar
@ahau oxlahun yo lo he comprobado en la calle ,por mi trabajo y he reducido a gente porque no se lo esperan...pero todo no funciona,yo practico para la calle 4 ó técnicas las que he comprobado que funcionan,lo demás para el dojo..también depende de la persona,más que el sistema que practiques....si eres bueno,eres bueno con lo que practiques un saludo
@@zapas3429 .. tienes razon aunque antes de que llegaran cummings . Hayes y varios disipulos mas nuestra essensias y valores eran otra realidad . Creeme yo pertenesco a la vieja Academia de hatsumi donde . No existia el Dinero .... Ahora ellos perdieron la realidad de nuestra essensias y se an convertido en Guros de ninjutsu .... Triste ver esto . Totalmente ridiculo 😏😏😏😏🤔
@ahau oxlahun la experiencia es la madre de la ciencia.un saludo desde Madrid España
Solo explica la libertad de movimientos y no la rigidez...
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En español por favor.
no. learn something for once.
1-1muay thi
kids fantasy show
5:05: uhm wtf
Worst thing in bujinkan is all the crap that train it for a short time and barf their own frustration against the budo.
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Most of the techinics are stepping tech, but why not be like a aggressive fighting? Apart from that it is not applicable in street aggressor.
He mostly uses hidden weapons, do you actually listen and watch? A poisoned nail/ring on my thumb going into the thighs wins every street fight, so does a bear paw. You simply are to stupid to understand what he is doing.
No can do
A togakure deveria se ATUALIZAR, isso não funciona nem contra faixa amarela de karate
bịp bợm sao?
😂😂😂😂 i would like him to make some sparring with some mma fighters...
May be there are beautiful and funny techniques but let s be seriously sometimes...
Ninjutsu is not only sparring in the first Clip is he using tekagi you can catch swords or climbing trees with it.Ninjutsu use every dirty move to kill the enemy btw he is the grandmaster (Sōke) and 89 years old be seriously this fight against the MMA fighter would be not fair.And in my opinion is the taijutsu in the Bujinkan Budo taijutsu better then MMA my favourite is the Taihenjutsu👍...
@@FireThowie May be i was not cleared when I written my sentences.
I don't criticize Taijutsu techniques but the way to learn them.
Ninja was people whose their job was to kill, spy and sabotage places.
So the techniques had to be discreet, quick and effective (in one or two moves and that's it, the enemy is down).
The Taijutsu techniques had not been created to fight in a ring against someone on guard. Taijutsu had been created to hit in discretion.
In other words, the Taijutsu techniques are very effective when the enemy doesn't expect the ninja and that's exclusively the moment when the ninja will act.
For example, a ninja will act from behind with a hit of knife in the carotid.
In a fight, a ninja doesn't fight, he leaves for coming back later when the enemy will be focusing on someone or something, other than the ninja.
It's exactly like self defense, it has not been created to fight with someone who is attacking the victim. It has been created to act when the aggressor will just bother the victim and doesn't expect being hit by the victim.
So when I've written I would like him to fight with an mma champion, I meant that the way of the master to demonstrate the techniques is like he would be ready to have fight, which is wrong.
Of course you can for example lie the enemy with a rope if he is not fighting and he doesn't expect something from the ninja or doesn't see the ninja, but it's wrong to think that in a fight you can lie someone because of the fluidity of the fight. There is a really easy experience to prove what I say : just try on someone who is fighting well and you will see that it's not possible.
Finally, He just makes believe the student to be ready to fight, so he is not honest, that is really disappointing from someone who has a kind of reputation.
It's no respectfull for the student and for the ninja ancestors.
@@vladm6848 he is showing traditional katas in bujinkan is also Judo throws like seōnage today are this techniques which he showed not good for combat but other techniques from BBT(Bujinkan budo taijutsu) are good for it. Did you learn all techniques of all 9 ryu’s(school) I think no
There are sooo much techniques but in a fight you must fight instinctively when you know much techniques you know how you win the fight.
@@FireThowie i'm not sure.
@@vladm6848 but I am
Isso nao e teoria pois ja vi combates reais raros no youtube
Isso não funciona nem brigando com magrelo de baile funk
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9:21 grabbing opponent’s punch? What, he is the Flash?
Smh.....the comments on here. *sigh* 🤦♀️
This old con man could easily be exposed. Any real fighter would take his lunch money.
Solo teoría nada práctico, nada funcional🤷♂️
Eso movimientos son una farsa
@@canalpolitica1015 como se nota que no los has vivido en tus propias carnes, esos movimientos son reales y el dolor que puede llegar a causar ni lo imaginas pero eso es muy complicado de apreciar en un video hay muchisimo trabajo y conocimiento en cada movimiento, esta mostrando las técnicas por lo tanto ataca el uke ( el que recibe ) y el desarrolla la técnica porque está enseñando no haciendo una exhibición pero te aseguro que ni se tira al suelo queriendo ni finge el dolor ni un segundo así que la gente debería dejar de comentar cosas que no conoce.
@@nadir77 no sea ridículo esao una mamarrachada lo que uno ves esas imágenes no es un atleta marcial un payaso
O Soke faz tudo parecer fácil. Ele treina desde os anos 50.
@@canalpolitica1015 Son ejercicios, técnicas o sea son herramientas. Luego esta en cada prácticamente que hacer.
Durante las técnicas el que uke que es el que ayuda al que las practica o sea, el que tira los puños, patadas o agarres para que el defensor reaccione, este las hace suave y se tira obviamente, o sea, ofrece mínima resistencia y luego con los niveles se aplica más resistencia. Pero de todas formas se deja.
En Ninjutsu todas las técnicas están enfocadas al uso de armas, por eso, muchas veces cuando ven técnicas con manos vacías parecen ridículas pero es que están pensadas para grabar en el practicante los movimientos con armas blancas.
Es mas falso que el puño científico mexicano
All of this is fine as a demonstration, but only as a demonstration.
Nao duraria 1 min comigo
Y tu a mi cuanto me durarias...con una buena Navaja en mi mano.
@@alejandrobaquerazambrana no mucho tambien, só tendría el trabajo de desarmalo porque con la mano libre no me parece muy bueno
Iga is were true ninja training is but good luck finding some ninja willing to teach you
pure fantasy
Mas fantasía son las Religiones
Lol
Some good techniques in there , cool instructor too. but this is a good example of the culture of cult-like idolization of instructors. The overly cooperative demonstrations and techniques themselves suggest a style that may not be grounded in reality, and certainly would not work well against a good fighter. These styles are better practiced to preserve the foundations and traditions of the old school. Itd be safer to train mma to be an effective fighter.
MMA is a sport, it's not real fight and almost no real fights is like a MMA match (2 equal opponent facing each other and start at the same time). Go buy a gun if you want to be a "effective fighter". If you want entertainment buy a ticket to a MMA match.
@@torbjornlago7936 dude. Please stop commenting.
Q mentira mas
discarada.. Teatro. E os besta. A indão. Aplaudem kkkk
Se você treinasse ninjutsu não falaria isso. O ninjutsu trabalha com pontos de dor e dor causa fraqueza e desequilíbrio. O ninjutsu é de certa forma a acupuntura da luta. Trabalha com pontos que causam externo desconforto , portanto o oponente fica vulnerável.
Não existe uma arte marcial que seja soberana. Cada uma tem os seus pontos fortes e fracos. Principalmente quando você não se identifica, não intenciona, aí é que não funciona mesmo.
@Jhon Mc Zaf Meu caro... Eu nunca fiz e nem desejo fazer sparring. Eu não sou lutador profissional. Admiro demais a arte ninja por ser uma arte milenar ( desde o séc vi no período feudal ). E naquela época justamente pela versatilidade e ampla visão de luta , era sim a mais completa das artes marciais.
Se você pegar um bom trocador de socos , o cara é capaz de derrotar qualquer alta graduação de qualquer arte marcial.
O shidoshi Hatsumi é um grande estudioso da arte ninja , inovou em muitas coisas, no que concede as oito disciplinas do ninjutsu. Mas , tem golpes aí que de fato não são nada funcionais, por mais dor que você provoque no oponente ,ele terá um tempo para reagir.
Assim como muitos gênios de idade avançada: Em qualquer coisa que se faça, seja lá música, luta ,pintura... É tão farto o conhecimento que uma hora eles começam a dourar a Pirula e inventar coisas nada funcionais e práticas. Alguns dos golpes que ele elaborou e foram demonstrados aí , realmente é mais pela história de vida dele no Bunjikan e da tradição das artes ninja tal consideração para ele,de seus discípulos.
@Jhon Mc Zaf Se você levar ao pé da letra , NENHUMA arte marcial usa somente recursos unicamente específicos. Na hora da briga , um karateka não briga como karateka , nem Kung Fu ,nem box ,nem nada... Na hora da porrada ,a consciência corporal é o que mais conta e sim , caso o adversário de bobeira , é possível sim usar a técnica do ninjutsu para quebrar ,lesionar ,desarmar e até matar, assim como qualquer outra arte marcial.
Não existe arte marcial completa ,mas sim ,artes que se completam. Todas elas , não importa qual , o maior trabalho que é feito , é o da consciência corporal. Isso envolve reflexo , absorção ,força , resistência ,agilidade... Enfim ... Não é a toa que no MMA todos os lutadores tem conhecimento de mais uma arte marcial , senão , é limitante. Bruce Lee conhecia mais de oito artes marciais por exemplo. Mas ,o ninjutsu somado a Win Chun , ou Taekwondo ,ou hapkido ,ou box chinês , mai taí , é de fato sensacional e extremamente funcional.
@Jhon Mc Zaf Pfffff... MMA é a mistura de outras demais artes marciais ( MMA = mixed martial arts ). Falou pouco mas falou bobagem. Kkkk
@Jhon Mc Zaf Então pronto. Você acabou de contradizer as suas expectativas. MMA , artes marciais mistas. Ponto.
Hahahaha. Box king
Estoy harto de ver tanta demostración agresiva como si se les preparara para una guerra y además éstos que se hacen pasar por maestros demuestran tanta falta de respeto a los practicantes que es un asco. El verdadero Arte Marcial no es así, tratan a las personas como animales y no se porqué tienen a aguantar tanto golpe absurdo y humillante. De ahí a la realidad seguro que no sale lo que enseña. Hay que enseñarles la calma, la tranquilidad, el saber estar en cada momento y transmitir Amor a la gente. " En el Amor no sólo son besos y caricias palo también ". Lo verdadero es transmitir y no enseñar. Una vez un cura viejo de nacionalidad china me dijo que los maestros que enseñan eran personas mediocres y los que transmitían eran los auténticos.
Los practicantes que llevan años de experiencia tendrían que crear sus propias técnicas de acuerdo a los principios y leyes de la Naturaleza y del Universo y creer en ellas. No se necesita tanto para vivir con esa seguridad en uno mismo. No busquen fuera sino adentro de uno mismo. Pido disculpas si he ofendido a alguien, no ha sido mi intención. Mucha suerte.
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Очередной танцор диско .а походка .как у Юдашкина .
Ok.. nija... not i am see not use nit lick fiter olds studes we chidls peeopple artes iam not setvesi am artes i am not use ok..
Haha ahaha Fantasy
Esto es una burla alas artes marciales
Es una farsa un timo es un Insulto las artes marciales de verdad
Não.
Isso é vergonhoso
Fake 🥸 Fake!!!Please watch UFC for pure fighting skills
He makes it up as he goes hatsumi is a fraud
Oh for fucks sake half the time there throwing themselves Togaure ninjutsu ya can find sod all about if it's legit only budjinkan old days hayes it was good godai and learning it as a defence art then every yank etc got in on it 15 dan ok for old Japanese shihan but there are 10th dan in this art that are OK than there are the others that go 3 times a yr to Japan and go up a dan all about money these days
complete nonsense, this can only be used in movies
Muy ridículo lo que enseña ese maestro hatsumi... Eso no es ninjutsu ni se le aproxima... Horrible!
Ante todo respeto!
Its so embarracing to watch. They would not stand a chance against someone with a better training method (boxing, thai boxing, bjj, judo etc). its a joke. Way too many unrealistic techniques and a training method without any reality.
Because it is a _traditional matial_ art, dumbass. Why are people doing fencing in the olympics? They stand no chance against a gun ... and most likely have no fencing gear with them in the pubs they go. The internet, the instrument that really shows how stupid average humans are.
@Danny C Illumini Be honest, put any Japanese Man in a traditional dress and most ninja wanabees will follow him to the grave. People assume he is good because of he is Japanese and not because he has any skills.
@Danny C Illumini I've seen at least 5 threads with you posting this exact comment. Also 20 page long rants, you seem obsessed with this topic you find so frustrating. Calling everyone here a fool while demonstrating your own lack of restraint is laughable. You mentioned mental training. With your "extensive" knowledge on the topic, you would know practicing patience and self control is a core tenant of most martial arts. Compose yourself fool.
@Danny C Illumini Given your proclivity for long hot air filled messages I didn't feel the need to read this, since I never once said the martial art was real. I was simply stating in very plain vanilla terms that you appear to be obsessed to an unhealthy degree with this topic. Having posted the same post 5+ times in the exact same words inserting yourself into conversations to prove a point.
Yous champings not lick star klys all peoople not use all tecnicas forever yous goods not bloder face
Another fake martial arts.
fake 110 per cent
fake~~~~~ㅇ.ㅇ
This is trash against real martial artists
This is a real martial art,you just don't see what's happening and that's the real art ........all done slow to learn proper movement and it does work in real live......