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  • čas přidán 25. 10. 2022
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  • @RainmanRaysRepairs
    @RainmanRaysRepairs Před rokem +64

    Go back to see the PT1. NO Brakes! No Oil! No Chance! Rehabbing a Chevrolet 1500 4x4
    czcams.com/video/LdRzUTYsjbI/video.html

  • @ajwilson605
    @ajwilson605 Před 2 lety +76

    Ah!....the past days of drum brake servicing! Anyone remember using a "drum micrometer" to make sure the drum was not oversize after machining? AND....transferring that drum diameter reading to a special purpose machine to "arc" the brake shoes? The joys of antique braking systems! Back when asbestos brake linings were on everything......

    • @mongomongo17
      @mongomongo17 Před 2 lety +6

      at the truck shop the same machine cut both at the same time.

    • @johnt.848
      @johnt.848 Před 2 lety +7

      Yep, I've done tons of brake work as a specialist including all lathe work for rotors, drums (including semis) and flywheels. Grinding the shoes was part of the service. For safety.

    • @GruntPa101
      @GruntPa101 Před 2 lety +14

      Remember? Yes. Miss doing it? No. :)

    • @PBILKE
      @PBILKE Před rokem +4

      Measured and turned many drums and rotors as a teen in my dads shop. We arced shoes every time. Had the whole anco brake service system including hard spot grinder and non directional finisher for rotors. No squeeky brakes allowed

    • @CrimeVid
      @CrimeVid Před rokem +10

      We, (the public and poor) never had anyone do things like that ! If I remember right we’d buy a rubber replacement kit, clean the drums with coarse emery cloth, rub the glaze off the shoes, then put diagonal saw cuts in the surface. copperslip on the friction surfaces. bleed the brakes well and off we’d go. If by any chance you absolutely had to change the shoes,I found that OEM shoes had a lot more friction material on them than the cheapo aftermarket ones, for the same money, but more driving to get ‘em. Re-arcing ? a downhill run with your foot lightly on the brake did that !

  • @btcbob11392
    @btcbob11392 Před rokem +53

    Back in the 1960's drum turning was the most common thing done in a machine shop. I was 16 years old and the drum lathe was the first machine they taught me to use. That machine ran almost all day long. Everyday there would be a pile of drums to be done. I can still remember that sound. it was like background music in the shop..

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 Před rokem +4

      Take the cuttings from the drum/disc lathe and spread them around the base of pine trees and evergreen shrubs, they love the iron, it makes them really green and healthy.

    • @michaelpressman7203
      @michaelpressman7203 Před rokem

      At one time I used to well I spent nine years fly cutting aluminum cast molds and because of the harmonics we used to use bean bags full of buckshot to cut down on the noise have a good evening

    • @africanelectron751
      @africanelectron751 Před rokem

      I'm going to try this

    • @Casmige
      @Casmige Před rokem

      Ahhhhhhhh, back in the day when the American Youth did jobs that [supposedly] Americans did not want to do.
      Me? Yeah one of those Damned legal immigrants who bussed tables at McDonald’s & cleaned the bathrooms @ 14/15 years of age rather than remain at home and learn “millennial~entitlement”.

    • @christopherl2143
      @christopherl2143 Před rokem

      And A few Rotors!

  • @deanowens5539
    @deanowens5539 Před rokem +28

    Like others, missing your video’s and glad you put this out there. Keep them coming Ray…even if it’s you picking up sticks in your yard! Lol.

  • @thatsfunny7729
    @thatsfunny7729 Před 2 lety +143

    Man, maybe it's just me but I love the test drive at the end to be included, even if it's short and uneventful. Seems like Ray always has some good extra knowledge to drop at that time. Like, what he is listening or watching for during the drive, what he found went well or not on that job etc. I would've loved to see the test drive to finish the video out, especially in these longer more in depth videos. Anyone else?

    • @Starchface
      @Starchface Před 2 lety +9

      It is not only you. I enjoy the test drives and I am mildly disappointed when there is none at the end.

    • @Yachting38
      @Yachting38 Před 2 lety +9

      TOTALLY AGREE

    • @danjordan1979
      @danjordan1979 Před rokem +6

      Me too, I love the vicarious satisfaction of a job well done.

    • @edwardsr70
      @edwardsr70 Před rokem +6

      Sadly we will get none until Ray has his own shop or is working with another company

    • @alaskanwolf7262
      @alaskanwolf7262 Před rokem +4

      Mr O always takes us along..... he shares....

  • @xAreWhyAyEn
    @xAreWhyAyEn Před 2 lety +73

    Dealership service manager here, with a lifelong passion for proper auto repair. Love what you do. I have a drum brake tool kit in my toolbox in my garage that just collects dust. Love hate relationship with drum brakes. glad I dont have to deal with them anymore, but nostalgic. Thank you for showing people that not all technicians are out to get people. Its tough being in the business, trying to always do right by the cars and customers, and have that negative aura of what people think shops and dealerships are, breathing down your neck at all times.

    • @xAreWhyAyEn
      @xAreWhyAyEn Před rokem

      @@PeterPan-uu5vu thanks for your well thought out, and insightful feedback. Super helpful.

    • @clivewilliams3661
      @clivewilliams3661 Před rokem +6

      Drum brakes are mechanically more efficient that disc brakes and that is why they are particularly suitable for parking brakes and slow speed applications. Their disadvantage comes with the heat dissipation, which is where discs score however, the flip side is that parking brakes on discs have severe problems especially when hot and when they cool down losing grip. I understand that this was a particular problem with the Chrysler Voyager in the early days, when Moms and little old ladies failed to set the parking brake with enough effort to overcome the shrinkage of the hot metal/pads. It is noteworthy that Mercs, BMWs and Porsches use shoes within the top hat section of the discs for the parking brake and calipers for the service brakes.
      The current trend for parking brakes on disc calipers being electronically activated has exacerbated the problem and our current Skoda (VAG) carries a warning to set the gearbox in gear when parked on a slope as the parking brake may not hold when it cools down!

    • @sgtjonzo
      @sgtjonzo Před rokem

      @@clivewilliams3661 VAG, 1 step forward, 60 steps backwards

    • @clivewilliams3661
      @clivewilliams3661 Před rokem

      @@sgtjonzo Its all about costs and getting away with the minimum.

  • @michaelhart7841
    @michaelhart7841 Před rokem +59

    I was starting to fall into a different world without my daily dose of rainman ... you've got to film even if it's just to watch ur change brakes or anything u do on the side lol .

    • @Mr_Chipp
      @Mr_Chipp Před rokem +2

      Yea it's a different world that Ray doesn't upload every day

    • @RainmanRaysRepairs
      @RainmanRaysRepairs Před rokem +4

      @@Mr_Chipp I’ll be back

  • @dadtype2339
    @dadtype2339 Před 2 lety +5

    With 15k views, yeah I'm not the only one who likes to watch a break lathe work, also nice shout out to Eric O, of South Main Auto, love how you guys shout out to each other, love it, always thumbs up.

  • @campion05
    @campion05 Před rokem +5

    At 8:20 I swear I heard that brake drum dismount whistle the beginning theme to "The Good The Bad and The Ugly". Nice back to the future vid Ray!

    • @jjnonken
      @jjnonken Před rokem +1

      So did I!

    • @kennyk4134
      @kennyk4134 Před rokem +1

      Was looking to see if someone posted it before i did , we all must have a musical ear lol .

  • @MrMagnat007
    @MrMagnat007 Před 2 lety +22

    Great, We had Eric O' imitating Ray.. Now Ray is imitating Eric O'..
    The Brake cleaner noise is different... but done at the right time lol..

  • @applicationuser9764
    @applicationuser9764 Před rokem +14

    Thanks for hooking us up. It just doesn't seem right to go a day without seeing what you're up to.

  • @lorenreyes2855
    @lorenreyes2855 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow! In 1 week. I've been witness to a Brake Rotor Being turned! And now Brake Drums! Also 27 cans of Brake Kleen! 😉 Yaye! ???? Thank you for sharing this knowledge and experience 👌

  • @ceciljacobs1221
    @ceciljacobs1221 Před 2 lety +38

    In 2015, I watched my 2005 GMC Canyon get inspected, and the rear drum the tech pulled came off with ease. Fast forward to a year later, I had moved to a new town, and I had the truck in for an evap leak and annual inspection. Two days later, I was informed the tech had to "use a sledge hammer to remove my brake drums" during inspection, and that I would need new drums and other harware. That raised an eyebrow, but since I was out of town and needed my truck the next day, I authorized the repair.
    When I picked up the truck, I asked to see the damaged parts. "Oh, we threw them away already." Riiight. Ok.
    The next time I set my parking brake, it wouldn't engage sufficiently to prevent the truck from moving. Took it back to the shop. "Oh, we'll adjust that for you at no charge."
    Worked once, then the next use, back to same issue. 'Fool me twice,' says me... Took it to another (not dealership) shop. Cable was broken.
    I live in Virginia, and we don't get snow all that often, and I had kept the truck well-maintained. Never set foot in that dealership again, and I drove that truck another five years before it developed a persistent misfire on cylinder 4 of its Atlas I-5 engine just shy of 330000 miles.
    I'm pretty convinced the tech, real name Bubba, I kid you not, scammed me on those drums or didn't know that sometimes you have to back the shoes off to get the drum to come off thinking that as a new customer with an old vehicle, he should get what he could out of me.
    I wish every mechanic had the moral compass you do, Ray.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Před 2 lety +2

      I learned about backing off the drum shoes to get drums off WAY back in the 80's working on the first of my two VW Beetles.
      I had to take them off to replace the parking brake cable.

    • @adeleinverarity1242
      @adeleinverarity1242 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MonkeyJedi99
      Ram gps

    • @aperson9495
      @aperson9495 Před rokem +3

      Don't know where you are, but I imagine they could get in big trouble for that. In Missouri, at least, as far as I know, you are absolutely entitled to get the failed parts returned to you after a repair...

    • @rustyrobinson8027
      @rustyrobinson8027 Před rokem +2

      Yes I wish Ray was my auto technician

    • @spaceflight1019
      @spaceflight1019 Před rokem +1

      When I had drum brakes, every time I checked them I'd clean the surfaces where the drum and axle flange met with a wire wheel, then a light application of antiseize around the lip of the flange. Never had to beat a drum off, that's a great way to either crack the drum or ruin the wheel bearing.

  • @johnnybgood6424
    @johnnybgood6424 Před rokem +4

    The harmonics is called chatter. That noise is like finger nails on chalk board to a machinist. Spend all day everyday listening to it. Since the drum is shaped like a bell, a dampening strap is probably all you can do, but sometimes you can stop it by alternating the spindle speed quickly to break the harmonics from resonating.

    • @michaelpressman7203
      @michaelpressman7203 Před rokem +1

      I used to run all my machine by eye by ear by smell and feel and also I'd listen if machine was screaming or creating harmonics I do something about it cuz when I start talking to you you got to deal with it otherwise you'll end up with a rough finish on your surface have a good evening

    • @johnnybgood6424
      @johnnybgood6424 Před rokem +1

      @@michaelpressman7203 yeah I work in aerospace, and about a tenth of a second makes the difference between a good day and a bad one.

  • @lynheydt3304
    @lynheydt3304 Před rokem +4

    That’s one of the best brake machines out there. We used that practically on every brake job and yes always checked for the right thickness and always back cut the drums.

  • @MrPerry61
    @MrPerry61 Před rokem +4

    Ray may be the only tech there that knows how to operate that machine. we're a throw away nation now, throw the old away buy a new one.

  • @kirk1065
    @kirk1065 Před rokem +2

    Your use of Brake clean always made me laugh. The shop I worked at bought it in the 55 gallon barrel

  • @paulsullivan6392
    @paulsullivan6392 Před 2 lety +43

    Spray cans of brake clean are among the best tools available. In the days of my first car (a '51 Ford sedan) it was a catch pan, parts brush and a coffee can of gasoline to clean up a near identical mess before repair and reassembly. Ah the good old days. Nice worlk Ray.

    • @ronhall9040
      @ronhall9040 Před 2 lety +4

      ah, but there's a sig. amount of money gettin used the way Ray goes thru brakeclean like candy...obvious the cost of those cans aint comin outta HIS pocket!!

    • @Note_Creator
      @Note_Creator Před 2 lety +5

      @@ronhall9040 but some customers if one drop gets on a drive way and/or something drips. They are coming back to the shop saying there is a problem. So you have a worried/upset customer plus technician time to recheck everything. Over 2 to 3 dollars a can not worth the headache.

    • @ronhall9040
      @ronhall9040 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Note_Creator i get his use..just the way he blows thru the cans I KNOW the cost aint comin outta HIS pocket ;-)

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Před 2 lety +3

      I remember melting holes in our driveway cleaning things with gasoline.
      Brake Clean has an advantage in that aspect.

    • @BTW...
      @BTW... Před rokem

      @@Note_Creator What's in that can?
      I guess you are one of those types that always rationalises and pisses money up the wall at any chance.
      Drive a truck as a car too? You should be charged $20 a gallon for your fuel.

  • @TJ1855
    @TJ1855 Před rokem

    Serve your algorithm is strong. Lately. I've been getting pummeled by your older videos for last three or four days consistently. And I am not complaining. I love every minute of it. I don't know what you did but it's working

  • @thomashale9887
    @thomashale9887 Před rokem

    I,m Retired and enjoy watching your car repairs!! I remember as a young man doing repairs for my own cars !! Brings back memories !! of course that was before they had puters that runs the cars!! lol

  • @michaelpressman7203
    @michaelpressman7203 Před rokem +2

    I spent quite a few years running a metal lathe but I've always wondered how you cut brakes I'm glad you start from the back side and the drum walks away so you don't end up crashing your tool that's very interesting great job Ray as usual have a good evening hopefully everybody stays safe and dry have a good one thank you

  • @lorditsprobingtime6668
    @lorditsprobingtime6668 Před 2 lety +31

    I've recut rotors and drums on general purpose lathes several times over the years for people and hated the horrible screeching you get from cutting that cast stuff but never had or even thought of wrapping something around it but, that thing you use, the very moment that one broke the drum started making that annoying screeching started so, surprisingly effective. If only I'd know such a simple thing could make such a huge difference. I wasn't ever terribly happy with the finishes I got and no matter how I shaped the cutting tip the screeching was always there, such a simple yet effective thing that is and if I'd known I could probably have gotten a better result too, I only wish I'd known way back then.

    • @charleskennedy9467
      @charleskennedy9467 Před rokem +3

      Common knowledge when using a brake lathe.

    • @CMDRSweeper
      @CMDRSweeper Před rokem +2

      @@charleskennedy9467 Apparently not so common when this guy didn't know it, or wasn't trained in it either, meaning that his higher peers didn't know of it either.

    • @dnm1016
      @dnm1016 Před rokem +3

      Basically it's the same as when you flick a wine glass only holding the bottom/stem and it goes "tinnng" but if you have a finger against the top it will make a kinda "dung" sound because your finger is absorbing the vibration; same as the band absorbs the vibration on the drum.

    • @charleskennedy9467
      @charleskennedy9467 Před rokem +1

      @@CMDRSweeper Guess I was just lucky that I worked with guys at a young age that had common knowledge of the equipment they used.

    • @michaelpressman7203
      @michaelpressman7203 Před rokem +1

      @@CMDRSweeper I also used to use like when I was cutting brass or steel on the lathe a bean bag full of buckshot and you put it on top of your part not enough to deflect the part but just enough to take that harmonics out works great and it saves your ears well I've got what's left of mine cause we didn't have all that one full safety standards when I started out so now I hear bells have a good evening

  • @kawa_ian2319
    @kawa_ian2319 Před rokem +4

    I like how ray doesnt slack on posting vids. I've learned so much, specifically troubleshooting/electrical stuff. Whenever I see people asking about codes and going straight to the parts cannon, im always thinking there could be other causes. Thanks Ray for the content! you can work on my car anytime!

    • @BTW...
      @BTW... Před rokem

      How many one armed mechanics does that place employ?

  • @beamonm29
    @beamonm29 Před 2 lety +1

    Grandpa's trick is to spray oven cleaner on stuff and wait a minute or two then rinse with brake cleaner. Oven cleaner works better then brake cleaner but evaporates slower so the rinse washes the oven cleaner off and allows it to dry fast. Makes a ton of things look brand new.

  • @kevinhill5596
    @kevinhill5596 Před rokem +30

    I don't think you realize just how many people you inspire and instruct with you videos. They should be mandatory for techs to watch. 👍👌

    • @will400r
      @will400r Před rokem +1

      Amen to that

    • @toddk968
      @toddk968 Před rokem +1

      I seriously have been considering asking a service manager to watch Ray’s videos and encourage the techs to watch them too. Those who are passionate about their job will learn.

    • @will400r
      @will400r Před rokem +4

      @@toddk968 don't forget about, the great Eric O. Over at south main auto channel

    • @RainmanRaysRepairs
      @RainmanRaysRepairs Před rokem +2

      I can dig it 😉

    • @jamesgrant7784
      @jamesgrant7784 Před rokem +2

      I use a bunch of his videos in my Grade 12 double credit Auto Shop Class. Cheers

  • @kaafromoz
    @kaafromoz Před rokem +2

    TY Ray was fun with this flash back, always love a brake clean on a massive scale video mate.
    Keep Safe Keep Strong 🦘🦘🦘🦘👍👍

  • @bigtallneversmall32
    @bigtallneversmall32 Před rokem +1

    Thank you so much for all you do Brother!! I keep learning what not to do, and what to do while driving. Take Care. And see you on your next video!!! Keyboard Gravity lol😅

  • @scottmarshall6766
    @scottmarshall6766 Před 2 lety +13

    One rearend squared with the world. Nice work.
    Your shop is one of the rare ones that still turns drums and rotors, Most places just sell new, regardless of how much life is left in the old ones. Often a broken in and seasoned drum or rotor once turned will remain truer than a new one. Just as a block with 100k on it makes a dimensionally stable race motor. When it comes to castings, used is good.

    • @kingofbrutaltheocracy9201
      @kingofbrutaltheocracy9201 Před rokem +2

      Problem is car manufacturers are making rotors that come new at the discard thickness. There is no extra. They are engineered to be as light as possible, for maximum profit.

    • @cedhome7945
      @cedhome7945 Před rokem

      Legend has it that the best years of triumph motorcycle was when the factory was on strike and the crankshafts and cylinder barrels blanks where left outside to naturally season before being machined when the work resumed . probably just legend but the most sought after years are from the late 60s production run .

    • @jongould2935
      @jongould2935 Před rokem +1

      @@kingofbrutaltheocracy9201 Not just for profit. Also to meet the ridiculous and arbitrary CAFE standards.

    • @damienvillano4044
      @damienvillano4044 Před rokem

      Unfortunately new rotors are now so cheap that financially it doesn't make sense to cut them. Cut a rotor? 20 bucks. New one? 18 bucks. I've seen that way too often

    • @shook0002
      @shook0002 Před rokem +1

      @@damienvillano4044 I just put rotors on my wifes Honda Pilot. $90/each for front, $60/each rear. Nobody cuts them around me would have rather.

  • @hackdlc
    @hackdlc Před rokem +2

    Gotta love old Armco brake lathes. I always loved converting from drum to rotors.

  • @MrMattDat
    @MrMattDat Před rokem +2

    Who ever thought brake work could be so much fun? Awesome editing Ray!

  • @sparksalot4950
    @sparksalot4950 Před rokem +2

    Oh my gosh Ray, the kids and the brake clean...Awesome!

  • @NackDSP
    @NackDSP Před rokem +2

    I'm thinking of a new holiday where we all just go out to the garage find something with grease on it and just rejoice in spraying it with Brakeclean. Sort of like they throw all that colored powder for that holiday in India, we could spray brake clean all around. I love the USA.

  • @johnmerte1694
    @johnmerte1694 Před rokem +1

    We are looking mb forward to you returning to working again

  • @PurityVendetta
    @PurityVendetta Před rokem +14

    Here in the UK everyone seems to be "Just throw it away and buy a new rotor/drum." People look at me as though I'm crazy when I just grab a disc or rotor and skim them in 5 or 10 minutes. I honestly think the UK has lost so many skilled people that most don't even know what's possible any more in a simple engineering shop like mine.
    Nice and shiny, good as new and a third of the price of a new set 😁

    • @robertinfante5222
      @robertinfante5222 Před rokem +4

      Same here in the US. Brake lathes and people who can actually operate them are pretty rare. It depends on the vehicle as well. In my area rotors just rust apart and for the Asian imports the replacement parts are very inexpensive and of pretty good quality. On big trucks it's a different animal.

    • @colin4850
      @colin4850 Před rokem +3

      I didn't think anybody in the UK still did this, usually just tell you to throw them away and buy new ones. You must be the last man standing keep up the good work. You should advertise your services

    • @PurityVendetta
      @PurityVendetta Před rokem +2

      @@colin4850 Thanks Colin, I do one off and speciality jobs mainly on vintage and race bikes. Only one thing, I'm possibly the last girl standing. Long story, but I wanted a vintage Norton motorcycle years ago and things kind of grew from there. If you can't buy it make it yourself 😁
      I've just finished building an electric start system for a Manx Norton engined special as the owner has serious health issues and we want him to get a last ride on his bike.
      Trouble is we tiny engineering workshops aren't really appreciated on the whole here in the UK.

    • @PurityVendetta
      @PurityVendetta Před rokem +2

      @@robertinfante5222 Luckily my lathe has a 20" swing with the gap removed and I made an extension to my cross slide to get the necessary travel.
      The honest truth is I just like the idea of no throwing away perfectly good parts. I can skim an average disc for £15 when they cost starting at £50 or £60 a piece. I think it's worth the effort.

    • @colin4850
      @colin4850 Před rokem +1

      @@PurityVendettaOops sorry about that just a figure of speech.I am currently repairing my 30yr old Virago after parting company with it on a back road in Devon. I know it's not in the same league as your vintage British bikes, but a challenge never the less

  • @jum5238
    @jum5238 Před rokem

    You know, maybe I should round up a bunch of the neighborhood kids to cheer me on every time I whip out the brake cleaner... it would sure make my day a little brighter. I cracked a huge smile every time it happened in the video. Thanks for the little easter eggs.

  • @TheWabbit
    @TheWabbit Před 2 lety +4

    It's been so long since I did a back drum brake job I forgot all about having to adjust the star wheel, I think it was my 1969 Mustang and it was also the last car I had where the rear brakes actually wore down.
    I enjoyed seeing the Drums getting cut.

    • @johnt.848
      @johnt.848 Před 2 lety

      I remember back in the drum brake days a lot of people made the mistake of adjusting the handbrake cable and not the brake adjuster to "fix" the rear brakes.

    • @TheWabbit
      @TheWabbit Před 2 lety

      @@johnt.848 That wouldve been a mess to fix.

  • @utidjian
    @utidjian Před rokem +1

    Back in the 1980s when I had my first shop I had a brand spanking new AMMCO brake-drum-flywheel lathe. All of the vibration dampening bands were brand new so they were still supple. We also had a special made 'brake drum gage' for checking the ID of the drums before and after machining. I would also use a dial test indicator to test whether the drum could even be cleaned up by turning on the lathe. Even though the machine can run unattended it was a waste of time to machine a drum, disk, or flywheel that wasn't going to clean up within spec. Flywheels were the biggest hassle because they would often have hard spots. Even using a special grinder head attachment on the lathe it could be difficult. Most often we just sent them out to be ground.
    After initial adjustment of the shoes I would set the parking brake a few times and pump the pedal to make sure the shoes 'centered' in the drums before final adjustment.
    Brake jobs were good money but were always the dirtiest jobs. Basically it takes a week or more for all that grime to wash out of your skin. Gloves help but it still gets on you and ground in.

  • @terabyte1695
    @terabyte1695 Před rokem +1

    Another nice clean job ray,done properly by someone who cares that the jobs done right,many repair shops will just put new shoes on...😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

  • @philmescrotum43
    @philmescrotum43 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for the video, looking forward to updates on race trailer. We haven't forgotten about the new front end parts for the truck either (hint hint)

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael Před rokem +1

    Good Bonus Footage and Brake Drum Cutting @Rainman Ray Off Duty

  • @kingofbrutaltheocracy9201

    Glad you still have some video in the pipeline!

  • @travisbradley9458
    @travisbradley9458 Před 2 lety +2

    loved your sound effects with the brake clean.

  • @michaelpressman7203
    @michaelpressman7203 Před rokem

    I used to enjoy doing lathe work eliminating harmonics makes a world of difference as far as your machine finish have a great day

  • @henrybucki7813
    @henrybucki7813 Před rokem +1

    miss your daily videos and repairs ,hope the best for you

  • @stanleyknight8173
    @stanleyknight8173 Před 2 lety +1

    Yeaaaaaaaa Love it. Also on a video of Eric's from 5 years ago he spun the drum and pulled on the parking brake cable/lever to help tighten the brake adjuster. That looked like it was a lot quicker, no off and on with the drum

  • @luke144
    @luke144 Před rokem

    Aaaaah! All the break cleaner. So shiny. Thank you!

  • @Imightberiding
    @Imightberiding Před rokem

    It took me until the 3:30 min point in this video to realise that this was not a video about using brake cleaner to clean, preserve or otherwise treat leather belts with. I'm such a boomer. I see the thumbnail & the subject matter of the video is clear in my mind. Oh, excellent! Today I'm going to learn a method I wasn't aware of to clean & treat my leather belts. I did think that 27 cans of brake cleaner was rather cost prohibitive but I didn't no for sure the quantity of belts that you could clean, refresh, treat & preserve with 27 cans. I watched it another minute or so & then clicked the thumbs up button. Dude had my attention, he deserved the thumbs up.

  • @unenslaver1333
    @unenslaver1333 Před rokem

    So funny...
    When you reach 65 and have been a mechanic most of your life, things like this are ancient, forgotten history.
    I remember the days of filling tanks, washing windows, and checking oil and tires.
    How many drums and rotors have I turned?........
    More than one LOL!

  • @krispytoo12
    @krispytoo12 Před rokem +1

    I haven't owned a vehicle that uses drum brakes for a very long time. I can't say that I miss working on them!

  • @billsherman6129
    @billsherman6129 Před 2 lety +1

    "I'm rambling again." Dodge Rambling??!? ;-) Awesome video! Strangely, this morning I'm missing the sounds of Christmas music in the background. Loving the "Yayyy!" though, OF COURSE!

  • @KeithvanDijk
    @KeithvanDijk Před rokem +5

    This is why I love watching your videos.
    Learned to do this as a 15 year old kid 55 years ago, working in an automotive brake shop.
    Did the drums but we also relined the shoes.
    Cleaned off the old linings using a massive sanding belt, linished them, bonded the new linings and then cooked them in an oven.
    Clean them up and you're good to go, new brakes.
    Probably ingested a ton of asbestos, no masks, no cares, no worries.
    Still here, wishing you nothing but the best in your future endeavours.

  • @patrickmorrissey2271
    @patrickmorrissey2271 Před 2 lety +5

    Think you used enough brake cleaner there Butch???
    Wow. Seriously, Monday I'm going on ETrade and buying stock in whatever brand of Brake Cleaner you are using... 27 cans per day....
    I did enjoy the "dual wielding" from the first video... I had thought to my self a week or so ago, "The only way this guy could use more brake cleaner would be a can in each hand..." And there you were. Two cans blasting, like a gunfighter in 1878.... Empty them smoke wagons Ray!!!!
    Nice Job Sir.

  • @gillgetter3004
    @gillgetter3004 Před rokem +2

    Remember when most cars and light trucks had these drum brakes at all four wheels. Did a lot of turning, drums were expensive back then, you would get two or three machinings before they’d be out of speck

  • @colinhamer6506
    @colinhamer6506 Před rokem +3

    it might be worth doing a video on how to service and set rear brakes and the hand brake for both disk and drums I'm sick of finding that someone has wound the nut up on the hand brake cable instead of servicing and setting them properly

  • @michaelpendarvis7814
    @michaelpendarvis7814 Před 2 lety +1

    The ONLY part of doing drum brakes I enjoyed was cutting the drums, the rest of it was a pain in the neck! Much respect Ray!

  • @itsnotme07
    @itsnotme07 Před rokem +1

    Always wondered how the drums were done. with 27 cans of brake cleaner! LOL

  • @nachojones1
    @nachojones1 Před 2 lety +1

    Keep doing the cheering when you show the brake clean can. I love that so much. LOL

  • @stephenrogers4537
    @stephenrogers4537 Před 2 lety +1

    Once again Raymond👨‍🎓 you take us to the bench😲 where the magic takes place 😁good work 🏆 BROTHER! 👍

  • @timmylittle2406
    @timmylittle2406 Před rokem +2

    I worked in a foundry for part of my life. We had a lathe in the lab that was about 6 times the size of that one. We joked that it must be from 1903 ( i dont remember that date on the info plate). Everyone at the plant turned our own rotors and drums with it.

    • @spaceflight1019
      @spaceflight1019 Před rokem +3

      For the three months that I worked at Westinghouse East Pittsburgh it was quite impressive to watch how they turned raw steel forgings into shiny generator and steam turbine shafts. The process took months with the lathes and milling machines running around the clock. All history now.

  • @rustyrobinson8027
    @rustyrobinson8027 Před rokem +2

    We love you Ray please keep uploading

  • @ximehtnijr
    @ximehtnijr Před 2 lety +9

    Imagine Eric O and Raymond starting their own shop together? And then hand picking and training other technicians to open a chain of shops? It would be amazing!

    • @davidnaish6804
      @davidnaish6804 Před 2 lety +2

      If they did, I'd drive down to Florida from Canada to get my oil changes!

    • @oobaka1967
      @oobaka1967 Před 2 lety +1

      Don't forget CSW, ya goombah...and Chrisfix

    • @bigtruck57h25
      @bigtruck57h25 Před 2 lety +1

      Sorry Chrisfix can't hold Ray's tools...

  • @j.t.cooper2963
    @j.t.cooper2963 Před rokem +3

    👍🏻😎 Thanks for the fix, Ray. I was starting to have withdrawals. 😅

    • @j.t.cooper2963
      @j.t.cooper2963 Před rokem

      @@DubiLLAuntAndre Well since neither one of us are gay, you need not concern yourself with such perverted things.

    • @j.t.cooper2963
      @j.t.cooper2963 Před rokem

      @@DubiLLAuntAndre For one thing, I'm straight. Second, I'm married and been that way for 32 years. Third, I'm not discussing my sex life on an automobile repair channel. Fourth, I don't care what other peoples sexual choices are either. ✌🏻

  • @MrRoseandrc
    @MrRoseandrc Před rokem

    Just done mine 4x4 4runner rear drums and the wheel bearings press on type lovely 😍 don't you just love them

  • @G58
    @G58 Před rokem

    We had the same nasty harmonics issues when turning very large diameter experimental RB211 aero engine disks (of exotic steels) in the imaginatively named Disk Shop at Rolls Royce in Derby in the 1970s. That sound was so bad it was capable of making people feel ill!! Even wearing earplugs and industrial/firearms style ear defenders made any real difference. The sound penetrated your skull and whole body. When two or more lathes were doing the same job at the same time, the old guys would howl out the tone to each other! I swear it drove some guys totally insane! As a second year apprentice, I deliberately failed that module and got moved to a different shop.
    By the way, couldn’t you hold the rubber band on with duct tape?
    Interesting video. Thank you for sharing this process.

  • @davidlandells4198
    @davidlandells4198 Před 2 lety +5

    I like super secret Easter egg hunts

  • @rrich8371
    @rrich8371 Před 2 lety +4

    Thanks Mr. Ray! Never saw how drums were actually turned. Believe it or not... I thought it was very interesting... yeh I'm a mechanical geek.

    • @rrich8371
      @rrich8371 Před rokem

      @@DubiLLAuntAndre interesting how you judge based on NOTHING. I guess that is what you identify with... mirroring.

  • @skeetersaurus6249
    @skeetersaurus6249 Před rokem +1

    Years ago, when I owned a shop, I had a really nice Aamco lathe...but by the late 1980's I had learned that no one making replacement parts were providing enough brake hub liner to allow for sufficient turning, if there were any groves in it. If you check your 'MAX DIA.', you'll find that actually fixing a 1/2-ton (Class 1) vehicle's brake drums is almost impossible without just replacing the drums themselves. The bad part is, if you check drum runout on a new drum, a LOT OF THEM are either 'out of round' or simply out of specs, to start with. It's bad when you get a new brake drum, and have to turn it on a lathe, just to 'get it in-round' and in-spec.

  • @donaldmurphy8435
    @donaldmurphy8435 Před rokem

    "...my eyecrometer detects... no runout..."
    I'll be laughing at that for a week. Thanks Ray!

  • @anthonyfreeman5858
    @anthonyfreeman5858 Před rokem

    Hey, I used a machine like that back in 1972-73 to clean-up drums on my 1962-63 Corvair Monza. Cool.

  • @donaldhuffman8080
    @donaldhuffman8080 Před rokem +5

    I remember doing shoes with my Dad and it was hilarious before they had spring pliers tell you what I learned a lot of patience and some mighty fine cuss words 😂 Have a great weekend everyone and be safe🎃

  • @MrRez808
    @MrRez808 Před 2 lety +1

    Good thing I bought shares in brake clean the other day before this video was released.

  • @davidstewart5811
    @davidstewart5811 Před rokem +3

    As a shade tree mechanic myself I really liked everything you did. Back in the day, we had a tool you could use to adjust the brake pad from the inside of the brake housing. There used to be a rubber plug that you could remove to allow you to insert the tool into the housing and adjust the wheel. One issue I have a concern about is your apparent lack of a mask when spraying the brake cleaner - oh and while using the machine to turn the drums. You really don't need to be breathing the mist of the brake cleaner and those nice little metal shavings don't do your lungs any good either.

    • @StrangerInAStrange
      @StrangerInAStrange Před rokem

      He references adjusting the brakes through the slot for fine tuning. 🙂

    • @janeblogs324
      @janeblogs324 Před rokem

      A: that slot is how you lock up the wankers that park where they shouldn't.
      B: its probably just degreaser labelled as brake cleaner. No heptane or chloride= not brake cleaner

  • @hoseqt1
    @hoseqt1 Před 2 lety

    This Vodeo made me recall working on ONE Rear Brake of a 66 Chevy Pickup, because it wouldn't grab and refused easy adjustment....
    Took it apart, Cleaned everything with a wire brush, greased the adjustment bolt, put it back together......
    I was 13 years old.....
    Good Times indeed.....

  • @dariustambasco5457
    @dariustambasco5457 Před rokem

    Keep the videos coming. It will be cathartic for you.

  • @Ted_E_Bear
    @Ted_E_Bear Před rokem +1

    Ray, just put up some of your earlier videos that you have to fill in, but anything will suffice!! Just keep them coming

  • @oldironsides3992
    @oldironsides3992 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm seriously surprised you didn't use brake cleaner on the lathe. Lol 😆
    Love your vids homie

  • @erikrunas226
    @erikrunas226 Před 2 lety +11

    Sweet. I was wondering where the adjuster was. The star wheel has been on the bottom of every axle I've seen.

  • @delano62
    @delano62 Před rokem

    Drum brakes.
    So glad I don't a vehicle with them anymore.
    At least I learned how to do them a long time ago.
    Thanks Dad!

  • @dannylinc6247
    @dannylinc6247 Před rokem +1

    Drum lathe belts last just fine if you don't put the hook through the middle slot.
    Put the hook so the whole dampening belt is captured in the hook across it's width.
    When I was a newbie, Brakeman Bill taught me this.
    We never tore up another one because I bothered each new guy and taught them.
    Be kind to rubber and it will last and last.
    Have a great day.
    Don't spray brakleen on it either.
    P.S. your arbor bellows needs some TLC or to be replaced next time the lathe is serviced, perhaps.
    Just information.
    Don't have a cow.

  • @MechMan0124
    @MechMan0124 Před rokem +1

    Jeez, somebody please buy this man a parts cleaner!
    Mmm... Drum brake clicks.. I love that sound.

  • @kupomog87
    @kupomog87 Před rokem +1

    My husband just asked if we spray brakekleen in our son's room will it clean that? I wish. Nice video.

  • @rickallen9382
    @rickallen9382 Před rokem

    Ray I was happy to see another video. Good luck in you new adventure whatever it will be

    • @markredf150
      @markredf150 Před rokem

      I'm gonna miss Petuhhhhh, he was great to have around helping Ray on occasion and his banter was spot on lol

  • @katherinewolford1599
    @katherinewolford1599 Před rokem +2

    Boy miss your daily videos at 6am! Hope your doing ok

  • @etowahjazz
    @etowahjazz Před rokem +1

    All good!!!

  • @rguy2684
    @rguy2684 Před rokem

    I remember cutting my first set of drums myself in 1978. 🎉

  • @daffydlwellen1270
    @daffydlwellen1270 Před rokem

    Godspeed Ray.

  • @mikep1176
    @mikep1176 Před 2 lety +1

    Ray single-handedly keeps the brake cleaner company in business

  • @GB-vn1tf
    @GB-vn1tf Před rokem

    I've never seen one of those before, a lathe just for drums and rotors, I could have done with one of those many times!

  • @rayshutsa6690
    @rayshutsa6690 Před rokem +1

    Thanks Ray for the memories of the drum and rotar turning lathe. That was the machine to go to back in the days.

  • @steffenmanderla7631
    @steffenmanderla7631 Před 2 lety +1

    I was amazed when you said rubber belt. The last time I used a brake lathe the belt was made of leather and the locking pin was held by springs.

    • @derekhobbs1102
      @derekhobbs1102 Před 2 lety +1

      Leather isn't vegan, and offends some people.

    • @steffenmanderla7631
      @steffenmanderla7631 Před 2 lety

      @@derekhobbs1102 I personally don't care if I offended someone.
      Because of what I had to work with I used that and didn't complain. 😄😄.
      As a matter of fact it actually was like a belt with a buckle.

  • @scannerlanier471
    @scannerlanier471 Před 2 lety

    I like seeing things get reamed out😉. Good job Ray

  • @marksaunders2500
    @marksaunders2500 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi from uk ray👋👍 your awesome when we get ahaead of others when we click the links for your time👍👌love watching the brakes getting refaced especially brake discs/rotors👌 p.s that was smooth abot the ""oh and I connected the drivers side handbrake cable😂👍"" for few mins I was asking myself to mention to you but ahahahahaa you got me as always brother👌😂 thanks for your time and be safe see you soon 👍👋

  • @adamdozier5757
    @adamdozier5757 Před rokem

    After I adjust my rear drums to drag a little. I lower the lift or jack down till the rear tires are above the ground. Start it up and put it in reverse and let it free wheel backwards, then set the emergency brake. I do this a few times till both wheels stop turning when I set the emergency brake. Then take the vehicle out to break in the brakes. Seems to work for me.

  • @johnt.848
    @johnt.848 Před 2 lety +15

    Pro tip: When machining brake drums cut the lip first as it can break the cutting tip due to rust build up and the decreased overall diameter. Also note how the anti vibration belt attaches, the clip does not go through the holes in the belt.

    • @dangilbertville2577
      @dangilbertville2577 Před rokem

      I thought he was wonky when he put it in the hole. ( That's what she said. )

  • @snoops606
    @snoops606 Před rokem +1

    Hey buddy good to see you

  • @strathadam1
    @strathadam1 Před rokem

    Haven't machined a drum in ages. We still do rotors on a regular basis, but it's done using an on-car lathe.

  • @gibsonj5035
    @gibsonj5035 Před 2 lety

    I particularly enjoyed the drum machining. Thanks for the up close and personal. ☺👍

  • @cptyler150
    @cptyler150 Před 2 lety +2

    Followed you here if I had my vehicle down there I would definitely trust you to work on my vehicle

  • @MrNitromike1
    @MrNitromike1 Před rokem +1

    Great job as always.

  • @pc-yx9uh
    @pc-yx9uh Před rokem

    i do not think i've ever heard of turning drums. thanks for sharing!