Hotfix - forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/123937-game-update-442776/ They've changed how often bunnymen drop their food loot, end tables now have their decorations last longer and newer flowers can be placed within them, there is a new login bonus as I'm sure many know by now and more! Man, this update is somehow more to talk about than Forgotten Knowledge and yet I feel like nothing has changed almost... strange. To be honest, and this is my total KNEE-JERK reaction, I get what they are going for and will accept it however I believe this to be one of the worst updates they have done in quite some time. It was just too much, too soon. They tone things down a bit, adjust perhaps the ability to maybe get at least two crops per harvest without having to shoot for HUGE crops and then I'll be totally fine with it. We'll just have to wait and see! Let us know if you've discovered anything new and exciting since the release! This is a learning time for all of us! Read about the update for yourself here, forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/123827-now-in-testing-reap-what-you-sow/ Read a text-based version of a guide through this new stuff here, forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/123862-farming-101-grow-like-never-before/
This stuff are getting compilcated for no reason. To much micro and much effort for low reward since starving is not a big deal. I totally agree on your opinion. What is the drop chance of bunnymen drops anyways?
not a fan of this update at all. the new farming seems really time consuming. they could have made some minor changes to the farm plots or to the whole farming thing. but this just tears everything apart and you have to start again. I can't even...
mm, i agree! it seems super cool, but maybe it would be nice if the more complicated farming mechanics could be optional instead of the only way to farm anymore. like fishing, where you could just make a rod and fish in a pond, or you can make a whole entire boat and tackle and stuff. i liked just planting seeds and getting whatever veggies or fruits came out and using them for my recipes! i dunno if i can do all the nutrient and garden battle stuff, it seems pretty daunting right now, but i do love the new designs and art and creativity though :D! thanks for the video as always, Beard, hope you have a wonderful day!
@@seekernguyen2543 bunny men are being nerfed significantly. and it's safe to say that bunny men farming for meat will be dead for sure and getting puffs will be even more difficult.
I feel like when ur world that already contained the original farm plot and when the update finally comes out it would become a permanent thing kinda like seasonal event items that still work as long as u already have them on the world so making those types of world have more history to it
@@moomimi Feel like that wouldnt happen since They took alot of things away from the older version but if ur world was very old it would still stick I still have a world where I had a setpiece where the infinite dark pillar light is still on it( yeah its very old ) and they already remove that setpiece from ever generating in the new worlds I feel they would do the same with farm plots if u had a world with it it would stay but u can no longer craft them.
I love how this update indirectly gives a massive buff to Wormwood, Warly, and Wurt, while also slightly nerfing Wickerbottom. Now we just need old Maxwell to get shadows that can till soil, dig up weeds, and harvest plants and we'll be golden.
@@PauloHenrique-it7vw lmao. Salty much? gtfo with that nonsense. She was good but not broken. A "slight nerf" was all she needed. This is the kind of idiocy that created this new update lmao. Literally not a single change that isn't stupid and useless at best, detrimental to the game's ecosystem at worst.
@Harjeli At lest Abigail won't need any nutrients. *gasps* what if they introduce carbohydrates, proteins, fats and calories as well?! Bye bye meatballs diet.
The fact that he looks like he carries it with ease just makes me think that around full hunger Wolfgang should be able to move things like suspicious marble without movement penalty. Cus he is just that strong n mighty
Well, potatoes are favourite food of Wolfgang. Just like for example, Bacon and eggs are Wilson's fav food, they're getting more stats from eating them than other characters.
Actually you can play without tending to farms and if you have wormwood you can have the same results without using the farm mechanics. Plus, it's is awesome for players that, like me, take the role of taking care of the base and feeding the other players (cause some characters have different needs in food), now i don't need to wait for the other players or luck to make food, cause now i can choose what to plant and how.
Let's be real, farms were usable before too. Folk just overblew how expensive they actually were. As for the Wickerbottom "nerf", if they tweak it to where we can aim the spell like we can in The Forge then it'll be fine.
@@jacobschmaus9271 I'd argue applied horticulture has always been horrendously overpowered, 10 plants is pretty reasonable considering how cheap it is to make the book, and that's still 50 plants per book, seems fine other than the randomized aspect
@@TheBeard777 manure takes a lot of time to get and people are usually pretty busy during the first year, so by the time you have time for farms people don't bother.
I love the idea! Wanna spend more time outside of base? Here, have just couple random crops. Wanna have huge crops and specific seeds? Take care of your farm often!! ... Just a bit of tweeking needed. Klei don't be afraid to make farming viable! I'm tired of Meatballs ftw...
I have mixed emotions about this. Crop plots were always overpriced af, but once up, it was basically a free, effortless, infinite supply of food. I always hated making crop plots but am kind of sad to see them go....
They weren't even that expensive either, only for beginner players really. Poop from the werepig method, grass through simply harvest, and rocks through the same. No one ever needed more than 8-12 plots if that unless they were megabasing or something so even that isn't an argument for "taking them away".
@@Polygonzzzzzzz just joking, but it's definitely a mechanism copied from Stardew Valley. Actually, I don't mind. What worries me that the whole game will be shifted toward intense farming.
I fear this will end badly. Everyone will just eat meatballs and heal without food. Shame, because the old crops looked like a good addition to a main base without being too grindy.
You can literally place 1 plot, plant NINE seeds, then forget about it. 9x the crop, with only the occasional de-weeding/boss kill. The only downside is that certain plants take longer with seasons... but that's still 4x the crop harvest with 1 plot. They designed this to be as non-intrusive as possible if you don't want to change how you farm.
this changes nothing to players who didnt farm before, and in my opinions only improve the experience of those who did before. old farmign style was just a handicap to characters not warly and wurt.
TBH the new farming is too grindy as it seems, it's very resource effective, giant plants are actually pretty easy to come across with minimal input, and it looks very cool overall
@@rubles88alvarez83 or he can wait for Christmas and get 2 copies of it for the same price ^^ I bought it in that way one year ago. Maybe steam will repeat this promo
@@rubles88alvarez83 I do actually! I have every installment except Hamlet which I’m getting tomorrow! I just prefer the original don’t starve experience.
Wormwood needs a bit off a buff I mean he is kinda the ultimate farming character when it comes to tending plants but I think he would benefit from a bit more care
@@squishy77wah78 when It comes to farming, he is indeed really good, but I think that some of his mechanics could be expanded, like for example some way to force blooming outside of spring for a short time, or other plant entities seeing him as family
Forget me lots are actually super useful for recipes like meatballs, fistfuls of jam, and ratatouille. You only need one bit of meat, one fruit, and one veggie to make them and can fill the other slots with forget me lots. As they are weeds the forget me lots keep producing flowers over and over as long as you keep harvesting them and don't let them go bad. So you can stretch out your basic foods by using them. Just survived a winter with this method. It really helped keep us fed when seeds are basically impossible to find. It's realistic too as many people in history have had to stretch out their foods with fillers like this during harsh times. I felt really clever for finding out I could do this and it made me feel very good being able to provide food for everyone over the winter.
So this update makes farming a full time job. Not sure how I feel about this tbh. I can see just about as many people ditching this entire system as I do people getting into it. At the same time tho, deeper and deeper complexity levels HAVE shown to be extremely useful for a long-term niche fanbase, which I always love. t. Terraria
Personally it feels like Klei is trying to make DST more like Stardew Valley at least in the farming aspect of things. And I don't think this is particularly great for the game. Yes, it does make farming more interesting and different from just planting seeds in the ground/farm plots and then letting them grow by themselves, but in my opinion it could've been left this way, or maybe just tweaked a bit without overhauling the whole system. Now, my impression of it is that you'll have to work much harder to get a yield from your crops, and it will be more time consuming overall. And while that may be ok in the context of a game where it's centered around farming, DST is not centered around farming as much as it is around survival in general. So my initial impression isn't great, but hopefully that'll change in the future as Klei tweaks things
I have the same feeling. Everyone will just abandon farming (except for mushrooms) and eat meatballs all the time. RIP Warly, he will be stuck forever farming.
didn't he say you could forget the new parts and just plant them as though they were like before? you can still just let those crops be, and get the same outcome like before.(exception is Wickerbottom.) the update just makes it so you can do more and get more, like the lunar island, you don't need to go there, but making a boat allows for the lunar trees bushes to be found.
Agreed. Farming will be much time consuming, and how are we going to explore? they can change, yeah, the way of farming, but I dont think this is the best way. need to have someway to be automatic. the only part that I like is the giant crops and that you can display them. I like to decorate. this could have more effort, but the rest, no
I legit gasped when beard said wickerbottom is getting nerfed the fact the she can only grow 10 RANDOMISED plants definitely needs to go not cool klei 😤
I think people are missing the point, in a game called DON'T STARVE, having infinite food seems kinda OP, 10 plants is in fact too little and not being able to aim it (yet) sucks but the nerf is well deserved
**Cries in 48 advanced farms** for real tho,I really love that they reworked the farms as they were underused due to the shear ammounts required for just 1 plot!and I love that they removed the disease mechanic!
From one side this update looks fun and refreshing. But on the other, it looks really time-consuming. I never thought that I need a farm overhaul. It was enough for that kind of game. Now it could take too much time, especially for solo players. I hope they make some balance changes on the way before the full release. Maybe farming wasn't fascinating, but it was easy to use. I hope it doesn't get too complicated with that ground elements stuff, tending crops, and watering. Maybe I'm wrong and it's lots of fun. I have to wait when it officially comes out and then see :P
@@pilky_boooi It is literally the same tho, plant seed in plot and wait. If you want to optimize it then yes but you don't even need to optimize it to make more food easier than before.
@@user-tg3jl1mt4e but the process takes way longer and if you want to profit from it you have to go into the complex parts also it was easier you had to get a seed and wait or use poop while the new farming needs you to water them, fertilize them (with the right fertilizer), use good crop combos, get rid of weeds, harvest them in time or fight a boss AND IT ALSO TAKES MORE TIME Stop saying "It iS LiteRalLy faStER aNd EasIeR", because it objectively isnt
im not gonna act like i understood the half of the process but one thing i like is that now farming is actually a job now. you can be a farmer and just hang around the base if you want.
it's like they wanted it to be even more inefficient. farm plots were expensive for sure. but at least if you had some plots made once, you could just plant the seeds and forget. now they want us to put extra work into it and in a server where there are only one or two players, this will really time consuming and most likely it will be ignored.
im not a youtuber but i still think farms are good i mean i think the others always think that NEEDS to be a main way to get food but i always see them as passive food gettin that are save on the farms for later like i was goin in the caves and after i came out all food is like almost rotin but my farms are still have there food on it and i always knew if i come back to base im saved always
The fire nettles can be used for winter when you start to freeze keep it in your inv then when your gunna overheat just put it in a bundle wrap or in chester
@@J040PL7 well as much as I love this update they made farming a bit more tedious now unlike the original farm plot these cant be left alone cause of the flies just imagine every spring when u plant like 40 dragon fruit and come back at the end of the season to harverst them all in 1 go but since u didnt tend to them "EVERY SINGLE FAKING DAY" the chance of getting a big fly for every single plant is like 50% == meaning u really have to pay attention to the plants now compared to the original so less time doing other stuff in the end well just abandon farming once more and go to the meatball/pierogi rabbit farms once more Hopefully they would atleast make the farms have a bit of independence and not need Too much care when the update fully releases
As someone who's a pretty avid gardener, this is pretty realistic, and since I like wormwood this does make me happy but damn now there are so many resources required to make the various instruments/formulas etc (and I don't play caves cause my computer can't handle it) that this just feels a little bit overwhelming. Exciting to try but also, it's such a big change man idk how to feel abt it.
Researching the plants take soooooo much time. I once spent a week tending to the garden, day and night (game time). So much time wasted waiting for plants to grow so that you can research each stage. And I didn't even get to research all of the plants since the seeds are random.
now I get the feeling that we will go to the moon with something like a giant plant or to some other higher "level", I mean if that's not the case don´t you guys think this update is a little off place ?
@@TheBeard777 Did you keep the thing it dropped in your inventory? From what I've seen in the video your temperature constantly went up when holding it.
I mean, compared to how he was before?! Before he could plant anywhere without worrying about fertilizer and watering and crop combinations. Now he can do the same but his wild crops won't ever have a chance to become big unless they are on plots. In fact, I think it's the opposite. This update made Wormwood obsolete.
@@TheBeard777 Yeah, but this update is the perfect chance to make Wormwood the perfect farm main with little effort, a perk like "Loves his plants and his plants love him" that boosts growth times and crop yields of plants he takes care would be very nice
Had legit fears going in about how intricate it could be but instead really liked the new system upon trying. They still manage to do better compared to the past when ignored caring. Before, how used my yields from farms was mostly dependant on bird; if it gave me enough seeds I'd make food with the excess; now I don't feel bad using the yield and mostly happy plants give a seed alongside the crop; in-season plants even give 2 specific crops. And its really great that they reward attending and overall making me actually farm crops that I wouldn't due to their seasonal and nutrient interactions is amazing.
Seems like gwtting specific seeds from birds is going to be a lot more useful now if you're going to be planting things in cycles to get the best results
I love this! Always wished there was a game that'd have realistic farming, and to think DST of all things is implumenting it, I'm so happy! Now that they're working on vegetational foods, they could really make jams or some sort of fermentation with Pear's jars available, to make Wurt player's lives easier, tho those new big crops might just be the solution
Honestly, this update overall seems great, getting rid of the egg loop makes gathering food through non farming methods a bit trickier, making plants be more worth it overall. That being said honey is still op as hell making food a non issue the moment you find some bees and the rewards for all the farming don't seem to be big enough to bother with the more complex aspects. Basically, this is a survival oriented update which I like but it is unfinished and needs serious tweaking to work in the end.
i think the update makes the game more interesting, well for me personally. I play with my friends alot and in any game we usually have jobs. One of my friends always does cave stuff and mining. one does fishing stuff. And I usually do the farming stuff. So based on my play style it seems like it will make the game more enjoyable and also more of a challange then just "plant crop, harvest crop", plus I am a wormwood main so of course im gonna like it lmao.
Oh, that’s actually a lot of cool changes. Gotta be honest, I didn’t like how farming worked in Don’t Starve. I know this is going to change but still, the major overhaul to farming is cool to me. Plus, it makes Wormwood more useful and that is frankly great. ...granted, I don’t play DST myself much unfortunatle, but still.
That's sad they killed Wickerbottom. Also they probably didn't rework disease because they would need to make new sprites for all the new diseased crops.
And i just played music for plants in The Spiritfarer and here we are. Also I love that Wormwood gets more and more OP. Even if I knew he is a God since the start.
Beard 777. The fire nettle does do something. If you get prick by the fire nettle for a while your temperature can raise up to 80 degree. Eating the fire nettle can also raise your temperature to 80 degree as well. The Spiny Bine weed is the worst. You must dig it out immediately otherwise when you decide to harvest other plants around it. A ring of spiny bine will constantly encase you, and you will lose health constantly unless you removed it.
@@TheBeard777 I believe you weren't affected by the two plants is because you were a wormwood. Wormwood is uneffected by these two plants. Try testing the beta in multiple different characters. Willow for example has a higher tolerance to the fire nettle unlike other character which could spike to 80 degree and overheated for about 1-3 minutes. You should also inspect the watering can a little more and find out that it not just for watering plants but putting out fire on structure and flammable object; However this isn't as effective like a water balloon or flingomatic since you can only put out fire one object at a time.
oh cool, the mini-boss that serves as punishment for not tending to crops can give an item that will tend your crops for you actually wait, I think that might just be Klei's way of helping players who are struggling to take care of crops
I've got a few things to say, -Firstly, how will this affect old worlds with the original farm lands & seeds? -Secondly, this update makes me very excited, revamped farms seems so good to me! -Thirdly, I now have a use for the chestful of beefalo horns on my webber world! (spiders and mating beefalos do not mix.) -Finally, do you think other insects like bees and glommer herself will affect things in the future?
I like the update, gives wormwood better usage. Adds a whole mechanic if people are interested in completing researching all plants, and with it being totally optional shouldn't hinder anyone outside of the nerfs / loot table changes
They kinda completely murdered applied horticulture Also, i think the notes said that when read, crops like berry bushes and grass will use two fertilization instead of one. Instead of getting five harvests per poop, youd get four if one round was grown with the book. They nerfed applied horticulture into the dirt!
I think what they should do for wickers applied horticulture is that you can select an area on screen that gets effected by the book like an aoe attack in the forge
I mean it certainly helps characters lile wyrmwood or Warly who spend more time around the base but on the other hand the old farms were nice in that you could just slam the seed. The more care the more reward. I like it because i enjoy the playstyle but i can see a lot of players not.
I think Wicker's book should just have a reduced radius, for instance the radius of the birds that land after using the bird book, but should still grow every plant within. That way growing dense farm plots is still a valid tactic as Wicker.
@@TheBeard777 That'd be even nicer. I never got to play the Forge but I'd like all her spellbooks to be targetable, especially the lightning and tentacle ones.
Maybe you're still right? And the giant fruits could be used to feed a giant? Either way that uptade was quite big, have a lot of new things to learn or forget about out
Actually, I think this idea was in the works since the Gorge event, we got a look at an alternate, more natural looking farm. I think the crops even had growth stages? I think some of the new crops have potential as decoration imo
I’m glad klei finally got the memo concerning disease. Having to go out and dig up some more grass tufts and saplings is just busy work. Even the noobest of noobs can press a button while holding a shovel. The egg loop didn’t matter much anyway, you can just make the eggs you need and leave the rest as meat. Looks like a fun update but it does bother me ever so slightly that we can now have a container of water in our inventory yet still don’t need to drink water
I HATE the wickerbottom nerf and i also dont understand bacteria and watering and taking care of plants in general can you explain that better? Or give us like a step by step on the farming process. Thanks
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Hotfix - forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/123937-game-update-442776/
They've changed how often bunnymen drop their food loot, end tables now have their decorations last longer and newer flowers can be placed within them, there is a new login bonus as I'm sure many know by now and more! Man, this update is somehow more to talk about than Forgotten Knowledge and yet I feel like nothing has changed almost... strange.
To be honest, and this is my total KNEE-JERK reaction, I get what they are going for and will accept it however I believe this to be one of the worst updates they have done in quite some time. It was just too much, too soon. They tone things down a bit, adjust perhaps the ability to maybe get at least two crops per harvest without having to shoot for HUGE crops and then I'll be totally fine with it. We'll just have to wait and see!
Let us know if you've discovered anything new and exciting since the release! This is a learning time for all of us!
Read about the update for yourself here, forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/123827-now-in-testing-reap-what-you-sow/
Read a text-based version of a guide through this new stuff here, forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/123862-farming-101-grow-like-never-before/
This stuff are getting compilcated for no reason. To much micro and much effort for low reward since starving is not a big deal. I totally agree on your opinion. What is the drop chance of bunnymen drops anyways?
This long read and the farming update is good more food means more crockpot resipes
not a fan of this update at all. the new farming seems really time consuming. they could have made some minor changes to the farm plots or to the whole farming thing. but this just tears everything apart and you have to start again. I can't even...
mm, i agree! it seems super cool, but maybe it would be nice if the more complicated farming mechanics could be optional instead of the only way to farm anymore. like fishing, where you could just make a rod and fish in a pond, or you can make a whole entire boat and tackle and stuff. i liked just planting seeds and getting whatever veggies or fruits came out and using them for my recipes! i dunno if i can do all the nutrient and garden battle stuff, it seems pretty daunting right now, but i do love the new designs and art and creativity though :D! thanks for the video as always, Beard, hope you have a wonderful day!
@@seekernguyen2543 bunny men are being nerfed significantly. and it's safe to say that bunny men farming for meat will be dead for sure and getting puffs will be even more difficult.
Klei: overhauls the dst farming system
Players who spent 450 rocks and 2000 grass on improved farms: 👁👄👁
im just glad im never having to do that again lol
now we'll be spending more time farming crops instead of rocks xD
I feel like when ur world that already contained the original farm plot and when the update finally comes out it would become a permanent thing kinda like seasonal event items that still work as long as u already have them on the world so making those types of world have more history to it
They wont be craftable anymore but if u had them before the update it would still stick on the world.
Think theyll turn back to how much u udrd, grass, rocks poop for each plots.
@@moomimi Feel like that wouldnt happen since They took alot of things away from the older version but if ur world was very old it would still stick I still have a world where I had a setpiece where the infinite dark pillar light is still on it( yeah its very old ) and they already remove that setpiece from ever generating in the new worlds I feel they would do the same with farm plots if u had a world with it it would stay but u can no longer craft them.
finally , my 3 years playing farmville are finally becoming useful
Thats rookie numbers son
Can i play with you don't starve together ??
Heavy : "maybe, maybe"
Ha! I had 3 years of playing island paradise I have the high ground
@@aymanelkadouri8235 oh , can i play dst with you ( i just wanna a friend farm with )
I love how this update indirectly gives a massive buff to Wormwood, Warly, and Wurt, while also slightly nerfing Wickerbottom. Now we just need old Maxwell to get shadows that can till soil, dig up weeds, and harvest plants and we'll be golden.
Woorm wood is too powerful already
Slight nerf my ass, Wickerbottom got sucker punched and she deserved it lol
And usefull fighter shadows for maxwell would be apprecieted
@@PauloHenrique-it7vw lmao. Salty much? gtfo with that nonsense. She was good but not broken. A "slight nerf" was all she needed. This is the kind of idiocy that created this new update lmao. Literally not a single change that isn't stupid and useless at best, detrimental to the game's ecosystem at worst.
@@xXDarkxIdealsXx You are both salty lmao
as the part-time Wormwood farmer in my friend group I am very excited
Same xD
Make note however, while you Wormwood mains will still be able to plant seeds anywhere, as it stands now only plots have nutrients and crap.
As the full time warly cook in my friend group I'm ecstatic
@@TheQuilavaQueen you are my inspiration as a new warly main !
@Harjeli At lest Abigail won't need any nutrients. *gasps* what if they introduce carbohydrates, proteins, fats and calories as well?! Bye bye meatballs diet.
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Wolfgang in the menu screen be like :MMM I like this big potato
He's a real communist! Anyone here remembers the adds of a game AdVenture Communist and Glorious Potatoes?
Make lots of vodka with it
The fact that he looks like he carries it with ease just makes me think that around full hunger Wolfgang should be able to move things like suspicious marble without movement penalty. Cus he is just that strong n mighty
Well, potatoes are favourite food of Wolfgang. Just like for example, Bacon and eggs are Wilson's fav food, they're getting more stats from eating them than other characters.
@@tytan555 Yep doesnt even need to be from a crock pot just plain ol roasted taters.
My Wickerbottom books are tingling
Edit: nevermind wtf
Before the video and after the video lol. They still might make changes
Lmaoooooo
klei just said they will not nerf the book so bad after all
Good wickerbottom needs less play
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Ah so this is why you've had so many plant based mods lately.
Exactly! :D
I am very theme oriented!
Forget about exploring, because we will now spend most of the time tending to the gardens. Lol
Laughs in Wortox*
Actually you can play without tending to farms and if you have wormwood you can have the same results without using the farm mechanics.
Plus, it's is awesome for players that, like me, take the role of taking care of the base and feeding the other players (cause some characters have different needs in food), now i don't need to wait for the other players or luck to make food, cause now i can choose what to plant and how.
Forever will I miss spamming applied horticulture and the famed great egg loop, although I do like that farms are now usable.
I haven't even watched the video yet and I'm already disappointed...
I wont miss egg loop. But the applied horticulture nerf is just horrendous.
Let's be real, farms were usable before too. Folk just overblew how expensive they actually were.
As for the Wickerbottom "nerf", if they tweak it to where we can aim the spell like we can in The Forge then it'll be fine.
@@jacobschmaus9271 I'd argue applied horticulture has always been horrendously overpowered, 10 plants is pretty reasonable considering how cheap it is to make the book, and that's still 50 plants per book, seems fine other than the randomized aspect
@@TheBeard777 manure takes a lot of time to get and people are usually pretty busy during the first year, so by the time you have time for farms people don't bother.
I love the idea! Wanna spend more time outside of base? Here, have just couple random crops. Wanna have huge crops and specific seeds? Take care of your farm often!! ... Just a bit of tweeking needed. Klei don't be afraid to make farming viable! I'm tired of Meatballs ftw...
I have mixed emotions about this. Crop plots were always overpriced af, but once up, it was basically a free, effortless, infinite supply of food.
I always hated making crop plots but am kind of sad to see them go....
They weren't even that expensive either, only for beginner players really. Poop from the werepig method, grass through simply harvest, and rocks through the same. No one ever needed more than 8-12 plots if that unless they were megabasing or something so even that isn't an argument for "taking them away".
The update is probably a reference to a fairy tale of a funny story where a farmer grows gigantic food
Nah, probably its a reference to stardew valley
@@bananabark "Reference"? You mean copyright infringement.
@@sendmorerum8241 Uhhhh, I am unsure if ye joking or not, but if ye aren't, farming mechanics aren't copyrighted?
@@Polygonzzzzzzz just joking, but it's definitely a mechanism copied from Stardew Valley. Actually, I don't mind. What worries me that the whole game will be shifted toward intense farming.
@@sendmorerum8241 Surelly it’s hardly copying when these mechanics have been around for ages, look at Harvest moon for instance.
Take a shot every time he says “for you see”
I'll have you all alcoholics by the weekend's end!
I fear this will end badly. Everyone will just eat meatballs and heal without food. Shame, because the old crops looked like a good addition to a main base without being too grindy.
You can literally place 1 plot, plant NINE seeds, then forget about it. 9x the crop, with only the occasional de-weeding/boss kill. The only downside is that certain plants take longer with seasons... but that's still 4x the crop harvest with 1 plot. They designed this to be as non-intrusive as possible if you don't want to change how you farm.
I agree. thankfully, mushroom planters and bull kelps exist. I will just stick to meatballs and pierogis.
this changes nothing to players who didnt farm before, and in my opinions only improve the experience of those who did before. old farmign style was just a handicap to characters not warly and wurt.
TBH the new farming is too grindy as it seems, it's very resource effective, giant plants are actually pretty easy to come across with minimal input, and it looks very cool overall
*Me*: letting the forget-me-lots grow because I thought they were flowers and then realizing they were weeds 👁👄👁
Im so happy they did a farming rework, I almost wish it was in solo so I could play it.
Do you not have DST? If you don’t it’s only $5 on Steam until December 1st. Please get it while you can
@@rubles88alvarez83 or he can wait for Christmas and get 2 copies of it for the same price ^^
I bought it in that way one year ago. Maybe steam will repeat this promo
@@rubles88alvarez83 I do actually! I have every installment except Hamlet which I’m getting tomorrow! I just prefer the original don’t starve experience.
Ok great for you pal
Same, I hope someone mods solo to have certain things from newer updates, because itd be rad in shipwrecked and hamlet
Wormwood needs a bit off a buff
I mean he is kinda the ultimate farming character when it comes to tending plants but I think he would benefit from a bit more care
I think the opposite he can feed an entire colony with just being tentative to seeds. He needs a limit
Picking up seeds i mean
@@squishy77wah78 when It comes to farming, he is indeed really good, but I think that some of his mechanics could be expanded, like for example some way to force blooming outside of spring for a short time, or other plant entities seeing him as family
Forget me lots are actually super useful for recipes like meatballs, fistfuls of jam, and ratatouille. You only need one bit of meat, one fruit, and one veggie to make them and can fill the other slots with forget me lots. As they are weeds the forget me lots keep producing flowers over and over as long as you keep harvesting them and don't let them go bad. So you can stretch out your basic foods by using them. Just survived a winter with this method. It really helped keep us fed when seeds are basically impossible to find. It's realistic too as many people in history have had to stretch out their foods with fillers like this during harsh times. I felt really clever for finding out I could do this and it made me feel very good being able to provide food for everyone over the winter.
looks like im playing warly again, gotta farm those sweet onions.
So this update makes farming a full time job. Not sure how I feel about this tbh. I can see just about as many people ditching this entire system as I do people getting into it.
At the same time tho, deeper and deeper complexity levels HAVE shown to be extremely useful for a long-term niche fanbase, which I always love.
t. Terraria
I’m getting some good ol’ gorge vibes, which was my first event. Happy time.
Hope you enjoy it!
Same :0 I LOVED that event
Personally it feels like Klei is trying to make DST more like Stardew Valley at least in the farming aspect of things. And I don't think this is particularly great for the game. Yes, it does make farming more interesting and different from just planting seeds in the ground/farm plots and then letting them grow by themselves, but in my opinion it could've been left this way, or maybe just tweaked a bit without overhauling the whole system. Now, my impression of it is that you'll have to work much harder to get a yield from your crops, and it will be more time consuming overall. And while that may be ok in the context of a game where it's centered around farming, DST is not centered around farming as much as it is around survival in general. So my initial impression isn't great, but hopefully that'll change in the future as Klei tweaks things
I have the same feeling. Everyone will just abandon farming (except for mushrooms) and eat meatballs all the time. RIP Warly, he will be stuck forever farming.
This will be more of s nuisance to players, I'll wait for a mod to come out to restore farms to the previous ones to be honest.
didn't he say you could forget the new parts and just plant them as though they were like before? you can still just let those crops be, and get the same outcome like before.(exception is Wickerbottom.) the update just makes it so you can do more and get more, like the lunar island, you don't need to go there, but making a boat allows for the lunar trees bushes to be found.
Agreed. Farming will be much time consuming, and how are we going to explore? they can change, yeah, the way of farming, but I dont think this is the best way. need to have someway to be automatic. the only part that I like is the giant crops and that you can display them. I like to decorate. this could have more effort, but the rest, no
Why would I even bother with farming if I have Moon Island food - stone fruits and kelps. I would use them as a vegetable filler for my pierogi.
I feel like they should’ve made a touchstone for wormwood with the new farming update.
Like a leafymeat effigy?
@@emergency.jergens yeah pretty much
The synergy reminds me of the three sister crops - beans, squash, and corn - which nourish and support each other through their growth.
I legit gasped when beard said wickerbottom is getting nerfed the fact the she can only grow 10 RANDOMISED plants definitely needs to go not cool klei 😤
klei just said they will re-adjust that because everybody was complaining, as well as a wormwood buff
Yeah but 2 paper 5 seeds and manure is easy to find so i get why they did that.
@@piw3327 yeah I dont mind that they made it more expensive but making it worse like nah
I think people are missing the point, in a game called DON'T STARVE, having infinite food seems kinda OP, 10 plants is in fact too little and not being able to aim it (yet) sucks but the nerf is well deserved
@@PauloHenrique-it7vw But you don't need wickerbottom to have infinite food though. I think the nerf is pointless tbh
**Cries in 48 advanced farms** for real tho,I really love that they reworked the farms as they were underused due to the shear ammounts required for just 1 plot!and I love that they removed the disease mechanic!
I thought this was a mod review for a second
Some of the assets are from the gorge which had a different art stile
From one side this update looks fun and refreshing. But on the other, it looks really time-consuming.
I never thought that I need a farm overhaul. It was enough for that kind of game. Now it could take too much time, especially for solo players.
I hope they make some balance changes on the way before the full release.
Maybe farming wasn't fascinating, but it was easy to use. I hope it doesn't get too complicated with that ground elements stuff, tending crops, and watering. Maybe I'm wrong and it's lots of fun. I have to wait when it officially comes out and then see :P
I may be a person who doesnt enjoy fun, but the last updates sucked, in my opinion, because they are changing base mechanics too much
It's literally faster and easier. lol
@@CZcamsAccountMan no it isnt... how could this be easier than just: put seed in farm, wait or fertelize for big speed, that is it
@@pilky_boooi It is literally the same tho, plant seed in plot and wait. If you want to optimize it then yes but you don't even need to optimize it to make more food easier than before.
@@user-tg3jl1mt4e but the process takes way longer and if you want to profit from it you have to go into the complex parts
also it was easier you had to get a seed and wait or use poop
while the new farming needs you to water them, fertilize them (with the right fertilizer), use good crop combos, get rid of weeds, harvest them in time or fight a boss AND IT ALSO TAKES MORE TIME
Stop saying "It iS LiteRalLy faStER aNd EasIeR", because it objectively isnt
Every update makes me so happy because when I eventully make a proper schoolhouse esque world it'll be so cool to have these plotd
im not gonna act like i understood the half of the process but one thing i like is that now farming is actually a job now. you can be a farmer and just hang around the base if you want.
CZcamsrs: don't like farm plots for not being efficient
Klei: emergency meeting
I am not one of those CZcamsrs mind you.
it's like they wanted it to be even more inefficient. farm plots were expensive for sure. but at least if you had some plots made once, you could just plant the seeds and forget. now they want us to put extra work into it and in a server where there are only one or two players, this will really time consuming and most likely it will be ignored.
im not a youtuber but i still think farms are good i mean i think the others always think that NEEDS to be a main way to get food but i always see them as passive food gettin that are save on the farms for later like i was goin in the caves and after i came out all food is like almost rotin but my farms are still have there food on it and i always knew if i come back to base im saved always
The fire nettles can be used for winter when you start to freeze keep it in your inv then when your gunna overheat just put it in a bundle wrap or in chester
Finally, a framing overhaul! :D
farming sucks for anyone who isnt warly and wort lol, took them long enough.
@@J040PL7 well as much as I love this update they made farming a bit more tedious now unlike the original farm plot these cant be left alone cause of the flies just imagine every spring when u plant like 40 dragon fruit and come back at the end of the season to harverst them all in 1 go but since u didnt tend to them "EVERY SINGLE FAKING DAY" the chance of getting a big fly for every single plant is like 50% == meaning u really have to pay attention to the plants now compared to the original so less time doing other stuff
in the end well just abandon farming once more and go to the meatball/pierogi rabbit farms once more Hopefully they would atleast make the farms have a bit of independence and not need Too much care when the update fully releases
As someone who's a pretty avid gardener, this is pretty realistic, and since I like wormwood this does make me happy but damn now there are so many resources required to make the various instruments/formulas etc (and I don't play caves cause my computer can't handle it) that this just feels a little bit overwhelming. Exciting to try but also, it's such a big change man idk how to feel abt it.
Fire Fronds are actually good at keeping you warm during winter
Researching the plants take soooooo much time. I once spent a week tending to the garden, day and night (game time). So much time wasted waiting for plants to grow so that you can research each stage. And I didn't even get to research all of the plants since the seeds are random.
Man I hadn't played for like a year and was EXTREMELY confused. Thanks so much
Oh boy, missing a year of this - especially the last year - would throw anyone for a loop. Lots has changed!
now I get the feeling that we will go to the moon with something like a giant plant or to some other higher "level", I mean if that's not the case don´t you guys think this update is a little off place ?
Wolfgang is like: BIG POTATO, MOTHER RUSSIA MY LOVE!
:D
Hahahahah! Yes lol.
I bet he could eat it whole :D
Potato I mean
Beard: Fire Nettles are dangerous, don't touch them.
Me in winter: let's get itchy baby.
Careful now though, it could very well be a bug however every time I got stung the heating process never stopped. I overheated until death every time.
@@TheBeard777 Ok, I'll be careful. Thanks! 👍🏻
@@TheBeard777 Did you keep the thing it dropped in your inventory? From what I've seen in the video your temperature constantly went up when holding it.
I believe this patch should be optional farming would take so long that it is no longer survival game is harvestmoon together
Wormwood is definitely a relatively strong character now
I mean, compared to how he was before?! Before he could plant anywhere without worrying about fertilizer and watering and crop combinations. Now he can do the same but his wild crops won't ever have a chance to become big unless they are on plots. In fact, I think it's the opposite. This update made Wormwood obsolete.
I know I'm so happy. I never really played him a lot but I'm really excited to now. 😁
@@TheBeard777 Yeah, but this update is the perfect chance to make Wormwood the perfect farm main with little effort, a perk like "Loves his plants and his plants love him" that boosts growth times and crop yields of plants he takes care would be very nice
Had legit fears going in about how intricate it could be but instead really liked the new system upon trying. They still manage to do better compared to the past when ignored caring. Before, how used my yields from farms was mostly dependant on bird; if it gave me enough seeds I'd make food with the excess; now I don't feel bad using the yield and mostly happy plants give a seed alongside the crop; in-season plants even give 2 specific crops. And its really great that they reward attending and overall making me actually farm crops that I wouldn't due to their seasonal and nutrient interactions is amazing.
I spent literally an hour trying to find the plots in game and then just though “ok let’s go to beard”
r.i.p. egg loop, you'll be missed forever
Seems like gwtting specific seeds from birds is going to be a lot more useful now if you're going to be planting things in cycles to get the best results
Cant wait for a mod to revert everything done here back to the OG single player for me
I love this! Always wished there was a game that'd have realistic farming, and to think DST of all things is implumenting it, I'm so happy! Now that they're working on vegetational foods, they could really make jams or some sort of fermentation with Pear's jars available, to make Wurt player's lives easier, tho those new big crops might just be the solution
For growing potatoes: plant a tomato plane next to every potato plant 1:1 ratio, and water it every time in ascending phase: 1,2,1,1
I personally hated this update in many ways, but what made me sadder was the nerf in the bird, geez what this game turned.
DON'T FARM TOGETHER
#dontfarmtogether
Honestly, this update overall seems great, getting rid of the egg loop makes gathering food through non farming methods a bit trickier, making plants be more worth it overall. That being said honey is still op as hell making food a non issue the moment you find some bees and the rewards for all the farming don't seem to be big enough to bother with the more complex aspects.
Basically, this is a survival oriented update which I like but it is unfinished and needs serious tweaking to work in the end.
The premier garden hat reminds me of thaumcraft
minerman
" *AND A WHOPPING 0 HEALTH* "
honestly nervous yet excited to try it out. my only qualm is wickernerf, and tbh, as much as it sucks, its kinda fair
i think the update makes the game more interesting, well for me personally. I play with my friends alot and in any game we usually have jobs. One of my friends always does cave stuff and mining. one does fishing stuff. And I usually do the farming stuff. So based on my play style it seems like it will make the game more enjoyable and also more of a challange then just "plant crop, harvest crop", plus I am a wormwood main so of course im gonna like it lmao.
Sounds like fun! Hope you all enjoy it then!
Oh, that’s actually a lot of cool changes. Gotta be honest, I didn’t like how farming worked in Don’t Starve. I know this is going to change but still, the major overhaul to farming is cool to me. Plus, it makes Wormwood more useful and that is frankly great.
...granted, I don’t play DST myself much unfortunatle, but still.
A cool idea for your next video could be which plants go best together to make giant plants like onions and chili’s so we know what’s the best to do
That's sad they killed Wickerbottom. Also they probably didn't rework disease because they would need to make new sprites for all the new diseased crops.
Fair point, it could very well return someday.
Haven't watched yet, but wanted to say Woooo! Exciting update
Meet the farmer. . .
Farmer: I grow you to kill.
*tf2 music*
*sobs in Wickerbottom main*
this'll make being a wormwood main a lot more fun/interesting
And i just played music for plants in The Spiritfarer and here we are.
Also I love that Wormwood gets more and more OP. Even if I knew he is a God since the start.
The only beard video i dont understand...he is talking science and farming...its difficult 😩 i need more guide beard!!!!!
Beard 777.
The fire nettle does do something. If you get prick by the fire nettle for a while your temperature can raise up to 80 degree. Eating the fire nettle can also raise your temperature to 80 degree as well.
The Spiny Bine weed is the worst. You must dig it out immediately otherwise when you decide to harvest other plants around it. A ring of spiny bine will constantly encase you, and you will lose health constantly unless you removed it.
I mention that getting pricked heats you up in this video but thanks, friend!
@@TheBeard777 I believe you weren't affected by the two plants is because you were a wormwood. Wormwood is uneffected by these two plants. Try testing the beta in multiple different characters. Willow for example has a higher tolerance to the fire nettle unlike other character which could spike to 80 degree and overheated for about 1-3 minutes. You should also inspect the watering can a little more and find out that it not just for watering plants but putting out fire on structure and flammable object; However this isn't as effective like a water balloon or flingomatic since you can only put out fire one object at a time.
I was literally Wilson when I encountered the two weeds as I specifically said Wormwood is unaffected...
oh cool, the mini-boss that serves as punishment for not tending to crops can give an item that will tend your crops for you
actually wait, I think that might just be Klei's way of helping players who are struggling to take care of crops
Beard you should know that the spykes of the new plant gives 5 souls each time you get rooted as wortox.
>Disease is gone
Somebody turn on that Crab Rave!!
I can't believe they did that to my favorite librarian. How I'm gonna survive now?
As a WB main, the nerf to applied horticulture hurts, but I know it was necessary
i think this is CRAZY cool, but nerfing wickerbottom wasn't fair at all.
I feel like this update makes farming too complex, but I do like the slight buffs to wormwood and I love the wicker nerf.
There was so much stuff, I thought this was a mod showcase...
There is no reason for Wormwood to plant seeds on un-tilled land now. It grows slower outside the plots. They should buff him in some other way.
As a Wormwood main, I'm excited
I've got a few things to say,
-Firstly, how will this affect old worlds with the original farm lands & seeds?
-Secondly, this update makes me very excited, revamped farms seems so good to me!
-Thirdly, I now have a use for the chestful of beefalo horns on my webber world! (spiders and mating beefalos do not mix.)
-Finally, do you think other insects like bees and glommer herself will affect things in the future?
the art style of the new crops reminds me of plants vs zombies.
I think the fire plant could be helpful in winter, also do weeds infect other weeds?
I personally love this, farming is one of my favorite things to do in this game. That and exploring the caves lol
Glad you enjoy it!
I like the update, gives wormwood better usage. Adds a whole mechanic if people are interested in completing researching all plants, and with it being totally optional shouldn't hinder anyone outside of the nerfs / loot table changes
As a Wicker main im just going to go cry in a corner....
It's not THAT bad. If they make it to where we can aim the spell like we can in The Forge then everything will be okay!
Ok I see, I'm embarrassed to say I never really played the forge through ☺
don't worry, klei just said they will re-adjust the book because everybody was complaining
Take a shot every time he says "for you see..."
im really hurt, my emergency cave food as a wigfrid has been nerfed. I liked leaching of bunnymen :(
YES, JUST YES
FINALLY!
@@clubsandwich559 it reminds me a little of stardew valley, and now I'm happy because of that
An indirect buff to Wurt.
I like it
They kinda completely murdered applied horticulture
Also, i think the notes said that when read, crops like berry bushes and grass will use two fertilization instead of one. Instead of getting five harvests per poop, youd get four if one round was grown with the book. They nerfed applied horticulture into the dirt!
I think what they should do for wickers applied horticulture is that you can select an area on screen that gets effected by the book like an aoe attack in the forge
The fire nettles could also be used as a emergency heat up in winter/spring just bring a healing item with you
In my experience the heating up didn't stop, like, at all. Chances are it was a bug however.
So now I have to spend an entire season trying to produce dragon pies so that I can go get my butt kicked by fuelweaver?
I mean it certainly helps characters lile wyrmwood or Warly who spend more time around the base but on the other hand the old farms were nice in that you could just slam the seed. The more care the more reward. I like it because i enjoy the playstyle but i can see a lot of players not.
I think Wicker's book should just have a reduced radius, for instance the radius of the birds that land after using the bird book, but should still grow every plant within. That way growing dense farm plots is still a valid tactic as Wicker.
That, or just let us aim it with a circular radius like we can in The Forge with spell books. Easy fix there.
@@TheBeard777 That'd be even nicer. I never got to play the Forge but I'd like all her spellbooks to be targetable, especially the lightning and tentacle ones.
I want there to be a journey mode equivalent of don’t starve where your goal is to research everything and you will be able to have god powers
Thats not the goal of adventure mode.
@@PureheartFisher it's a different mode can you read?
@@blakethepolarbear4223 There are only two modes in dont starve, survival and adventure. Researching everything is not the goal in one nor the other.
Maybe you're still right? And the giant fruits could be used to feed a giant? Either way that uptade was quite big, have a lot of new things to learn or forget about out
Actually, I think this idea was in the works since the Gorge event, we got a look at an alternate, more natural looking farm. I think the crops even had growth stages?
I think some of the new crops have potential as decoration imo
I feel it’s interesting to mention dragon fruits grow from cacti in real life.
Never gonna plant again tbh because of this update, they need too much attention
Fair enough, I think a lot of people are joining you in that.
Well.. My knowledge about farming is useless now..
But how good that I love farming and get all my knowledge back :)
I’m glad klei finally got the memo concerning disease. Having to go out and dig up some more grass tufts and saplings is just busy work. Even the noobest of noobs can press a button while holding a shovel. The egg loop didn’t matter much anyway, you can just make the eggs you need and leave the rest as meat. Looks like a fun update but it does bother me ever so slightly that we can now have a container of water in our inventory yet still don’t need to drink water
I HATE the wickerbottom nerf and i also dont understand bacteria and watering and taking care of plants in general can you explain that better? Or give us like a step by step on the farming process. Thanks