Kawai ES920, ES520, and ES110 Comparison!
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Recently Kawai released the ES920, the long-awaited successor to the well-loved ES8. Initially I wasn't very impressed with the ES920 especially compared to its predecessor. Its build quality seemed like a downgrade from the ES8, the action was the same rubbery RH3 mechanism, and although the sounds in the ES920 are very, very good the speakers are not perfect and tend to buzz and distort. The ES520 has many of the same problems, and seeing how they stack up to the cheap ES110 has a very interesting outcome...
If anyone gets the ES110 and records via line outputs, it is a BILLION percent necessary to turn off the Speaker EQ for best sound quality.
Press A#6 while holding the Function button down.
(ES110 has three reverb sizes and drum rhythms, too)
Really curious how the new ES120 action will compare to the ES920/520.
I bought an ES110 from reading all and every review I could find on the net and to have you take a 110 with you as opposed to any number of keyboards at your disposal makes me feel I made the right choice, I am a total beginner, a total beginner but thankyou for the reviews that you do............ I only wish I could play as well as you do. I am 60 and literally only started after all this time................... Again thankyou for the time and effort you put into each and every vid you make.
Great to hear! The ES110 will suit you very well. :)
Thank you for your review, just a liitle comment:
The kawai ES 520 has the RHC 2 action, not the RH 2 (that was another action before RH 3).
In kawai’s web, the RHC 2 has triple sensor but not escapement simulation, whereas the RH 2 have escapement…
Having tried both ES 110 and ES 520, I agree with you that the action of the 110 is more realistic than 520’s despite the improvement of the triple sensor. It’s a super keyboard for the money that coasts…
This comes out after finally making a purchase decision for the ES110. Feels good.
Awesome! Hope you like it as much as I do!
That's gotta feel good
@@ThePianoforever I noticed you talk about the problematic speakers on the es920/520, however, does it ever occur when playing the piano sounds? i believe in the video, it talks about it for other sounds. I have the p515, but i often want to sell it bc i love the es920 sk concert grand soo much.
Received my Yamaha P-515 yesterday finally :-)
Excellent timing, James! I am going to upgrade my little Yamaha P45 to a Kawai, and I was just wondering which one to consider. Thanks very much for the review. ES110 sounds like a winner, my wallet just gave a sigh of relief.
how do i like the es110 compared to the yamaha
Thank you very much for that detailed and nice comparison James! Always a pleasure to watch and listen. Greetings and much love from Greece.
Glad you enjoyed it! :D
James, this is a very good video. Interesting conclusion you come to - the ES110, the cheapest model, is probably the best value. You have done a lot of comparisons of competing slab pianos. Let me suggest something different for your next video - a comparison of competing home pianos. I would suggest comparing the Kawai CA79 with the Yamaha CLP685.
What a fantastic review and I really enjoyed the pieces you played. Thank you very much.
Awesome!
Congrats for all your passionate and very useful reviews; the ES110 is discontinued; did you try the Kawai KDP-120 ? Would love to know your opinion , Thanks
So glad to hear you say you like the ES110 best. A while back when my family grew pretty large in short while, I had to sell my grand, because it was old and not very good quality and extremely loud so I couldn't practice without thinking I'm probably pissing off the rest of the family. I bought an ES100 and I have to say with 35 years of experience from playing back then I felt like it was a fully worthy practice instrument for me. Now I'm thinking about a secondary instrument to have upstairs for when I take short breaks from working and I have to say I might go for the ES110 after seeing this review. I traded up the ES100 for an ES8 and it was certainly a better instrument, but the ES100 held its own!
The song is Cavatine by Edouard Schütt (Op 40 no 2). Took me a while, because I thought you said Schubert and then turned it into some kind of jazzy improv. :)
Kawai-us homepage is indeed wrong. It specs the ES520 to have RHII action with letoff. Well, RHII acrion has indeed letoff, but the 520 uses the RHCII (C=compact). Both the global and the german homepage are correct on this. Furthermore the german homepage explicitly states: letoff:no
How interesting!
So if you where a intermediate player and looking to buy a new digital piano, where the most important factor is the pianistic action, touch and feel (I don't really care for any of the other sounds and effects), which piano would you recommend then/which would you buy in that scenario? I was actually leaning towards the ES520 because it felt like a good long term and affordable choice (after watching your first video about the ES520), but now after watching this video I got second thoughts whether the ES520 is the best choice in that price range. What would you personally recommend? Thanks in advance!
Thanks, the way you play the piano makes it a joy to watch your reviews
Glad you enjoy it!
James!!! Its just released ES120!!!!
Totally agree, the ES-110 is excellent value for money. I bought one about a year ago and started practicing. Couple of months ago I traded in the ES-110 for a ES-920. It has a lot more power and a far better interface. This, the quality of the sounds and a couple of other extra's, was worth it to me. But if I didn't had the money I would have kept my ES-110.
Do you notice buzzing from the piano speakers when playing the piano sounds?
@@JitinMisra I had that in the left speaker with the B4 key.
I changed my mind about another keyboard after watching your review and got the ES110 instead. You're right the speakers are bad (sorry but they really are), but it is very playable and am generally pleased. Cheers.
I was using ES110 for a long time - it is the great Kawai ever!
More than a year after getting the ES110 and still not feeling the need to upgrade
yo i have a little question u said the es 110 is the best feel and stuff but i have a budget of around 1000 and im looking for the best action 1000 can afford would you actually still recommend the es110 or a epiano from a different brand?
Higher quality is like double of es110 price
I was close to pulling the trigger on the ES520 and now I think going with the ES110 may be the best bet. I have found paying a little extra goes a long way with musical instruments. Now I am scratching my head.
depends how you want to play, speakers on the 520 area lot better.
Another great and down-to-earth comparison! Have you considered reviewing virtual piano software? I'm curious if such software could breathe even more life into a little gem like the ES110
For now I'm going to stick with hardware instruments, but perhaps in the future I'll look into software instruments.
@@ThePianoforever , would love to hear your opinions of the kawai vpc1 currently saving for either the vpc1 or mp11se (but holding cause of past release cycles there might be a mp12 coming though nobody really knows when and if especially now cause of covid) the 1k price difference might allow for some decent software variants . already have basic studio monitors (adam t7v)
and i am mostly behind the pc anyway and neither of these slabs can be really considered to be mobile cause of their weight .
doubt there will be an update to vpc1(it's 8 years old if not older can't find an exact release date so quickly) wich is one of the reasons im still holding off on this one.
seems most vendors don't seem interested in an affordable midi controller that has high quality.
Hi James, I have really enjoyed your reviews. I am an intermediate player and would like your opinion on the Kawai 110 vs the Yamaha 515b. I'm not worried about price difference or synth features. My main focus would be practice with headphones so I can play at night while people are sleeping. Which has the more realistic piano feel and sound if you could boil it down to those two things? There is a Yamaha 515 available at my local music store for $1500. The Kawais are all on backorder as far as I can tell and I can't find one to try anywhere. Should I hold out for the Kawai or just buy the Yamaha that's available? Thank you for your detailed reviews. I have enjoyed them very much!
(If anyone else has experience with these two instruments please feel free to chime in as well. Thank you!)
Hey James, thanks for the good comparison. Do you have any tips on the settings of the ES 110? which settings you prefer on it/ would you recomment? Thanks in Advance!
ES110... value king! :D
For sure!
The ES 520 doesn't have the RHII. It has the Compact II action. (Responsive Hammer Compact II)
Noted! Thanks. Confused the RHCII with the RHII there.
@@ThePianoforever No wonder you are confused. US-homepage lists ES520 to have RHII. (with escapmentment). Other countries homepages don't print this error.
Please review the Nord Grand!
Another feature about de pedal is the sensor is optical... Great pedal, without doubt
I have the CA99 so went with the ES520 as a good compromise between portability and presence. The triple sensor also is better for midi and was a major deciding factor over the ES110. Too bad the 520 can't record midi directly to USB memory like the ES920.
Can someone inform me the piece title of the soft gentle music James played?
Could you please do a comparison between the ES 920 and the Kawai MP7 SE ? Thanks !
He doesnt have the mp7se sadly.
Was just wondering if you could do a review on the Nord Piano 4?
I'm surprised to hear the James say he prefers playing the 110 to the 920 (portability was also a factor). Does anyone else who has played both think the same way?
I have an es100 and 920 and honestly the 920 blows the 100 out of the water. Not sure how much the 100 compares to 110, but I assume they are similar
Thanks
Hey James, can you explain what do you mean by 'completely different beast'? @ 13:19 I have a G1 air for myself back home and I'd Iike a smaller piano to bring with me to where I'm staying at the moment. Having experienced Korg's RH action, I'd like to know your opinion on the difference, cheers!
Can you send me the notes of the piece you played?
Actually, if u put on ur earphones, u still can hear the es520 2nd sound like the 1st one.....but much shorter than 1 st
This is great
Hi James, thank you for your wonderful videos.
In this video, are there any setting with the es110? Because i heard something like cymbal whenever it've played.
That's the pedal noise which actually is a good thing if you're looking for a realistic sound.
Thank you so much for very informative video. I've already made up my mind.
Glad it was helpful!
They removed the pedal in es120
Hi. Could you make a comparison between Yamaha p515, Kawai es920 and Dexibell vivo s7 pro M?
I'm looking to buy a 2nd piano since our Kawai CA-79 is too heavy to move back and forth to our summer cottage. The escapement on its Grand Feel III action doesn't bother me. However, I very much dislike actions that are much heavier back near the fallboard. I haven't found a direct comparison between the GF3 (which feels very good) and RH3 actions in this regards. Any comment about this issue? You mentioned briefly that all 3 of these are noticeably heavier at the back.
I want a great competitor/upgrade to the es110 with 73/76 keys.. do you think the Korg sv2s-73 can be that?
Hey james, what is the second piece you played id really like to know.
What would be the best possible gig piano for professional pianist in your opinion?
Well, my #1 option for a professional pianist would be the Kawai MP11SE, its sounds are great, build quality is phenomenal, and the action is very, very piano-like.
@@ThePianoforever thank you so much🙏
@@ThePianoforever The MP11SE is an excellent professional digital piano for the professional pianist, (being one myself), totally agree with you. It's only drawback IMO is it weighs 72 lbs., not practical for frequent gigging, unless one had assistance with moving it /carrying it /setup/and tear down.
@@danieljshapira4557 totally agree! Was thinking myself about that. What would be lighter alternative?
@@ThePianoforever could i ask you what would be lighter alternative to MP 11SE?
You wasn’t sure if it had a lead-off earlier. Strange that they mentioned that because you would think they know what they using. I can’t remember if the keys had any lead-off to be honest. It’s a while ago when I tried one in a shop but I can’t remember it. I got the impression that the tone of 920 is better. A slightly more stereo if you know what I mean. The 110 is just a bit flatter. In one of the reviews last week you asked yourself already the question if the lead-off is really necessary and I start to think not. Next week I am in a shop that got both keyboards and real acoustic pianos. I can’t play that much but I can try a bit. Let’s see what comes out of that. For now thank you for sharing, playing and fiddling around.
Oh boy, don't let anyone tell you that any of these models is comparable to an acoustic piano.
Humm... can I transplant the 110 action into the 920 case? ... or maybe just neuter the rh3 "improvement"... humm & aargh...
I just checked the ES520 and ES110 body build in-store and both are not great. Even ES110, when you press hard the front body, it could touch the keys. Thanks to James review on his top 10 piano, czcams.com/video/6TWWd-hNyNE/video.html, and all other web site reviews on P515, I just decided to get the Yamaha P515 since there's just $300 difference between ES520 and the P515.
"Gram Weight Boy strikes again"
Honestly, coming from a ES110 player for the last year, and just recently upgrading to a p-515, It is a truly great instrument. It wins out in it's price range. I really like it's sound, but the action is too light and the speakers somewhat inferior. Still, 100% worth it. If this is your price range, get it.
What do you think of the P515? Is it better than the ES110 in every way?
@@gabrielhunter8986 Yes. For double the price it should be. It is a great instrument
Just asking for a friend is it possible to connect an ES110 to a laptop?
What are the cables/adaptors needed?
And dus the laptop need to have IOS?🎹🎶
It's possible allright. You need a MIDI/USB cable OR you can try to use the pianos bluetooth MIDI. (Not sure of the latency though'). Any operating system will do.
@@Zohnorg my friend tryed to wirelessly connect it to a device without IOS using the bluetooth midi and it didn't work
That device was not a laptop tho
So I think the last option is to use the cables you suggested and to use a laptop this time
Thanks for the advice🎹🎶
Man im so disappointed with kawai, my only wish was a portable with longer keys like grand feel compact, would love if they would make a plastic version of that action for their high end portables.
Kawai could be the clear winner when comparing to Yamaha P515 or Roland FP90X, but im not impressed with the RHIII. The PHA50 from Roland is good, but their modeled sound is just not as good as the samples from Kawai and Yamaha, P515 is very nice but the NWX action is just to heavy compared to a real grand.
What can you do about the buzzing sound?
I believe there's something in QC. The buzzing sound seem like it's not perfectly fit. Maybe this one has a not good assembling.
Not much, really. Using headphones or speakers/an amplifier instead of the internal speakers will eliminate the sound, but one reason someone would buy one of these instead of an MP7SE would be the convenience of the internal speakers...
Thuc Tran, I partly agree: it does sound like there is loose plastic buzzing together. Both the ES920 and ES520 make the exact same sound, however, so if it's a QC issue it likely isn't limited to one specimen.
@@ThePianoforever I ended up trying 2 different ES920s. One of them had the same buzzing in the left speaker only with the B4 key. Guess I am going back to the ES110.
Kawai has always had quality issues, then they bring out long anticipated ES8 upgrade, and bring an even more inferior quality instrument. WTF KAWAI