Rare Cold Hardy Fruits You Must Have!!
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Living in a colder area I am glad to have found this channel.
Same here!!
For all living on the east coast and Appalachia, if we plant maypop persimmon and paw paw we could easily bring it back, and also try to get ppl to litter less, they will all come back
Call your Appalachian GOVERNOR to urge the office to call The American Chestnut Foundation - they have a tree they will donate for the Governor's official residence to promote REFORESTING with the American Chestnut.
Another benefit of the Maypop vine (passion flower) is that they are the host plant of the Gulf Fritillary butterfly .
I appreciate the way you mention where these fruit are native to and it’s important not to plant invasive plants
Well.. maybe it's not so bad: rice, apples, marijuana, blackberries...
Some non native species must be strictly kept out, but some add to the fruitfulness of the land
You should also include the paw paw, a cold hardy tropical tasting annona that grows well in the North.
Thanks for the advice! Our channel actually has many videos on Pawpaws and we grow tons of them on our farm. Happy growing!
Do you sell seeds at all from your plants?
Ohio has a PAWPAW Fest near Albany, Ohio
I used to have chocolate vines. Yes, as you said, they are so invasive. Also, It is labor-intensive to get to eat the fruits. You need a strainer to get the edible pulp. If you have a busy job, it may not be worth the effort.
I have passionflower, but I find the fruit to be too much work to eat. The leaves however make a very mild sedative/anxiolytic tea-- it's good with a little lemon or juice from the passionflower fruits. You can see evidence of this sedative in the bumblebees that come to pollinate it and just fall asleep in the flowers. It's more popular as a sleep aid in Europe than in the US. It will spread and pop up dozens of yards away, but it is easily controlled when it does. Not nearly as pernicious as clematis.
Wow, thank you so much for sharing that information! I can second that, clematis will take over almost everything in a garden bed. Very difficult to control. Happy growing!
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I make tea with my leaves too but I add every fruit leaf I know is safe as well as Oak and Yapoun Holly.
There are twelve varieties and one of which, Xanax is derived from..
I'm confused. I live in New Zealand and I just bite them in half and suck out the seeds and pulp like our ancestors did
Wow, so glad I discovered this channel. I feel even better now about returning to Upstate NY (after years in California). Many plants in this video and the other one match the cold-hardiness zone of my New York home. Thanks.
You can also grow paw paws, apples, pears, blueberries, strawberries, loquats, and cold hardy figs.
As he said: be careful with Akebia. We planted some 20 years ago along a double fence line and are still trying to remove it.
Careful of passion flower vines. I have had one growing up the front of my house for many years, and for the first few years all was well. Then, one sunny day I pruned it back and developed huge burn blisters on my arms that took several months to clear. Since then, if even a tendril brushes against my skin, my skin turns bright red. I love the plant, so it remains on the front of my house, but I only approach it on cold, cloudy days with every part of my skin thickly covered with padded clothing.
That really sucks with that allergy. You should really have someone else manage that vine if you can. Allergies that you develop can often become quite devastating if they progress further.
passionflower are amazing.
I keep one in a pot in zone4 just to get a few flowers some years. it doesn't do well here, I've never got a fruit off it and it's gotta be like 10+ years old now.
My 2 different maypops are the best tasting things I have ever eaten. By far my favorite fruit that I grow. But you have to wait util they fall off the vine. You can’t pluck them. So good.
Wow! They sound like an amazing variety. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch the video. Happy growing!
I'd add honeyberries to the list.
I have dozens of types of fruit vines or bushes. The best Thornless hardy blackberry money can buy is Prime Ark freedom.. it has out produced everything I've tried.
Awesome! Thanks for the comment!
Vitis rotundifolia is actually the Muscadine/scuppernong grape native to the U.S. Southeast. That one is only hardy to about USDA Zone 7, but is the only domesticated species sufficiently disease resistant (particularly to Pierce's Disease if memory serves) to survive (& thrive--the dang things grow about 20'/yr even on nutrient poor FL Panhandle sand) the Deep South, though U.F. has come up with a few bunch grapes (e.g. Orlando Seedless) that supposedly do better. Muscadines ripen individually, in clusters of 4 to 10 very large berries rather than in big bunches of wimpy vinifera sized grapes, originally had separate male and female vines (but many self-fertile, bisexual cultivars exist today), have small leaves that would be ~worthless for dolmas, and a flavor more like jaboticaba than grape (or if really ripe, a weird combo of sugar+ale+bubblegum in the ones I had; the flavor does grow on you though) though its jelly is disappointing--almost identical to generic apple jelly. They are slipskin, usually have large seeds, and a different # of chromosomes than regular grapes so won't hybridize with them.
Fox grapes, like the "Concord" that Welch's made famous, are Vitis labrusca (or hybrids between it and vinifera). Those *are* cold hardy (but usually impossible in the Deep South). The far north varieties are usually hybrids between V. labrusca and (small berried, tart, extremely hardy) species like Vitis riparia.
Muscadines are the best grape. They are one of my favorite flavors on the planet!
Wow amazing.
So many eadible plants I have never heard of!
You can find Sweet passion fruits that are wild in America but if it don't rain they will not be sweet and Native Americans also use the seeds mixed it in with another weed nickname Barnyard acid or pigweed and would use it for a intoxicants
I am so excited about these! Especially a cold hardy passiflora! I grew several versions in N.California. I loved growing them at the base of old citrus that was petering out because the GORGEOUS blooms and fruit would climb then hang from the trees. Now I am in Oregon and growing all new beauties like lilacs and peonies that I could never manage. I always thought Cali was like Eden with the citrus on street corners and figs along the river for foraging. But Oregon is pretty spectacular with morels, apples and alien-like rhubarb, and of course, peonies. Thanks for the suggestions!
The problem with Kiwi is the fact that you need male and female plants. Unfortunately my experience is that companies tell you they are sending one of each but then they all turn out to be one or the other and you get zero kiwi. Has happened to me multiple times. I'm talking multiple companies. According to Penn State Extension Issai are less hardy than the other hardy kiwis, unfortunately you don't mention what your zone is. I'm in zone 4a.
You should look into hardy kiwi "Issai". Self fertile variety. One plant and great fruit. Happy growing!
I have a wild "may pop" that I adopted several years ago. It's fruits are a little smaller than some I've seen, but have a fantastic flavor. I keep a couple of tomato cages there for them to trellis on. Finding them in the wild is no problem, beating the opossums to the ripe ones is the issue!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'd love to get my hands on a few of the fruit if you ever have extra! Thank you so much for sharing. Happy growing!
I would love to see a CZcams video of your wild passion fruits and flowers.
Chambourcin is probably the easiest-to-grow hybrid, sometimes requiring no spraying. Second hybrid to that would be Chardonnel, though it will require some fungicidal spraying (Captan should do) to prevent fruit rots.
Third in cold hardiness, though it is not a French hybrid and the fruit is smallish, might be Norton, which will sometimes require some fungicidal spraying in some locations for fruit rots. Fourth, and certainly not a hybrid, might be Ontario, which has the benefit of sometimes ripening early;.it too will sometimes require some fungicidal spraying in some locations for fruit rots
Perhaps the cold-hardiest seedless grapes are Somerset and Mars, though they will need some fungicidal spraying.
If you live in zone 7b or warmer, definitely try Muscadines, Supreme and perhaps one of the bronze varieties. Muscadines never need any spraying at all where I am (Eastern Maryland). I believe they are much more nutritious than grapes, especially if you eat the skins. They mostly ripen individually and late in the fall, which can be a real advantage. I freeze Muscadines immediately after picking, and later eat them frozen.
You will need a deer fence for all of the above, unless you have dogs that can and will roam free at night (like Great Pyrenees)!
(P.S., all of the above is written from my own or my daughter's experience.)
Wauw! Thank you for this video. Also the history you talk about is really nice.
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
OMG Amazing! Thanks so much. You've got me totally psyched.
Thanks for watching! Happy growing!
I have the tropical variety of Passion Fruit, so easy to propagate by cutting.
All these fruits are awesome! When I finally own a property I'll be sure to plant the fast growing ones! One common type of fruit that is more common but a good amount of people don't know about them are mulberry trees. They resist cold winters(I live in central Ohio) very well but will take years to grow into a mature tree. They look pretty and have very large branches that grow low to the ground. Can really only eat them in June & July typically though and when they all fall on the ground and rot they smell terrible however.
Thank you so much for sharing that information! You're awesome and thank you so much for watching the video. Happy growing!
Yeah many grow naturally in my backyard zone 7 PA
@@Ohsnapski Only the black ones are, they can't handle anything colder. The white and red can handle much colder weather.
I just ate some dark mulberries from a red mulberry tree before I typed this message
I guess I got lucky bc these grow wild in my fields. And to those who grow tomatoes and peppers... Passion Flowers act as great to keep japanese beetles off your plants. I let a passion flower vine pop up and grow in between/along with my tomatoes/peppers (I use a wire fence to act as a trellis to tie my tomatoes/peppers.
OMG I am going to try maypop just for the flowers!
Look online, there are many varieties you can grow just for flowers in colder zones, some are huge
As for putting on a fence, I'm saying your fence not a fence bordering with a nice neighbor ( let's keep them nice)
Thanks
Yes, always be conscientious of neighbors around you. This plant does best in areas away from other peoples properties and gardens. Thank you so much for the great comment. Happy growing!
Grapes aren't exactly rare
But Ribes like Gooseberries and Currants are rare in the US
You should do a video on them! They deserve much more attention!
I have another video coming out discussing cold hardy bushes. This video was over vining plants. Thank you so much for watching the video and I hope you'll check out all of our content in the future. You're awesome! Happy growing!
California has a gorgeous version of the pasion flower. It really is beautiful. The huge bumble bee's they attract are fun too.
Great video I appreciate the check local laws. A good intention could become invasive. I would feel terrible if I invited the invasion.
Amazing Information, Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for taking the time to watch it! Happy growing!
New sub. Great vid. Thank you!!!
Passionflower also comes with no fruiting varieties, so check before you buy! I got a lovely one called Snow Queen, it just drops flowers without fruiting. It was cold hearty in zone 8b, overwintering easily, and spreading the tendrils up over 12 feet high and wide. It really is a lovely sight.
Yes, not all passionflowers are fruiting varieties. Some have been bred only for their showy flowers.
Heaven bless you! 😅 I’m so happy now
I looove grapes, i have Muscadine and some kind of green one i got from a neighbor.
Thank you for identifying the maypop for me..
I with two of my Drew's were hallucinating on psilocybin, when we came across a maypop flower in the forest.. it was spectacular...
(wild) grapes have already been used 8000 years ago in Caucasus, Georgia - in the hunter-gatherer period .. the underground clay pots Kvevri, are still used in Georgia to make traditional
wine.. i have 4 full of wine :)
I love hardy kiwi, actually like the taste better then the other kiwi. I planted 3 this spring. My male and female varieties made it but my Issias did not. The issias was bare root and a cold spell in spring I think got it as it was budding and looking good until then. Will try again next spring.
They are very tasty. I also love maypops. We have a variety that was foraged in Kentucky and it tastes absolutely amazing.
My Issia kiwi died 2 years in a row; but now, I have three of them growing over 7 feet tall. Hopefully, next spring there will be some blooms.
after 10 years of growing my kiwis never yielded more than a handful of fruits. The main issue is, male and female plants have different flowering times. I got rid of them this year.
Issai died on its own.
I’m allergic to kiwi a little, makes my tongue feel sore. So I avoid it. Sad. The kiwi berries are good.
Nice. I wonder if some of these will grow in the Scottish Highlands
I don't see why not! If you can get your hands on them you could give them a try.
The fruits of the Maypop reminded me of some fruits of a tree of the Rosacea family. I don't know its name, but they are like cherry-sized pears and you can't eat them until they start to rot!
They then taste a bit like marzipan, but with alcohol. It's definitely not for everyone and I honestly don't feel safe eating them, at least in larger amounts, but they have a curiosity value...
Service tree fruits ?
Sounds like you might be thinking of medlar...? The process of letting the fruit rot is called "bletting".
That thumb nail looked like the jungle flowers from the first jumanji that shot the poison darts lol
The Chocolate vine can be termed as invasive in some places. Buy with caution.
I have sooooo tried to grow maypops (passiflora incarnarta) in my USDA equivalent zone 6b-7 Sweden home gardenand they all died. I have one left. And it is potted so I can take indoors when the frosts begin. Would absolutely love to have it growing it in ground!
Hi Sonia! They will dieback to the ground every winter and sprout from the ground again around may in that planting zone. They are late trying to come back and most people assume that they are dead. But if it truly has died, I would test your soil to see where its at nutritionally for plants, make sure it doesn't retain too much water, and always add a mulch layer after the plant has been put in the ground. Thank you so much for watching the video. It means so much. Happy growing!
Dang, they grow wild here in Georgia in the US and most people consider them a weed, I really really want some pawpaws, found dwarf pawpaws growing wild where I live but I missed out on what little fruit it did produce this year
As Plant Fanatics said, it is an herbaceous vine (dies to the ground in winter) rather than a liana north of zone9. However it is important to remember that western Europe is maritime (has its winters warmed by the Gulf Stream) and has cooler summers than eastern North America (continental except along the Gulf Coastal Plain, which is nearly subtropical) where the maypop is native. W. Europe more closely resembles our Pacific Northwest. It wouldn't surprise me if maypop, like pecan trees, was very dependent on accumulating "heat units" (hot days) to successfully ripen.
@@sonnyg960 University of Georgia has done a lot of pawpaw research.
@@charlesdevier8203 I may reach out to them and see if they would be interested in the dwarf pawpaws here on the property for its genetics, maybe they’d make a trade for some young pawpaws of a different variety
New Subscriber. Keep the videos coming
Thanks for the sub! Glad to have you here!
All of them take bright sunshine
Yes. 😀
6:00 just a slight correction or expansion:
Catholics, I believe were monks and nuns, found this flower and saw the 3 points in the stamen as a great symbol for the Trinity of God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, as it too is 3 in one. The loveliness of the flower as well (unsure which variety they first ran across, some red, some are tiny, so it could be another variety not this one) made them very joyful and excited to embrace it under the name of Passionflower. Passion meaning “Passion of Christ” which in summary is his love for sinful humanity led him to peacefully accept being killed for doing no wrong to pay for all people to avoid hell by just asking for forgiveness.
Thanks for the clarification!
Can you please advise what fruit trees should I plant to my front and back yard in St. Catharines Ontario (Niagara region)? I wish to make a food garden for my family.
Also please, provide a list of the best/tasty types of grapes for food consumption (no wine).
It will be grate to let me know if I can discuss and show you the space so I can have your recommendations.
Thank you in advance and congratulations for your help!
It appears that you are in plant hardiness zone 7. You have a whole world of options as far as fruit trees are concerned. You could grow Nectarines, Peaches, Apples, Cherries, Mulberries, all different varieties of Grapes, Blackberries, Currants, Goumis, Blueberries, Hardy Kiwis, Etc. Simply type into your internet browser zone 7 fruit trees and you'll find tons of information. As far as getting the trees, you will have to find a nursery that can ship to you, or head to any of your local Nurseries. Thank you so much for your support, and I wish you luck on your plant journey! It sounds like your on your way. Keep checking out the videos because we live in the same zone as you. Anything we can do you can do too.
@@PlantFanatics That's great!!! I recently found your channel and I'm watching all your videos! You do great job and it is awesome that we are on the same zone!!!
Any suggestions/advices about good tasty grapes for food consumption?
I'm coming from Europe and I do not know the grapes types here in North America.
Thank you again and you have a new fun! Continue the great job!!!
It is worth mentioning that the Passiflora Incarnata (Maypop) can, AND WILL, grow up to 30 feet under ground each winter, coming up on the complete opposite side of the yard and being impossible to get rid of. I planted on plant in the ground three years ago not realizing how invasive it was, and I am CONSTANTLY trying to kill it because I want it gone lol. It's never ending.
They are extremely invasive.
Passion fruit is best to put up a big tree, they are tuff enough to survive very high falls.
Chocolate vine in China can grow in Zones 4-10
All these cold hardy plants are vines and will spread like crazy. A 8ft grow spot is small area for these vines. More like 15ft+ because I planted all these 5years before this video and ground cherry is yummy vine too.
All fruiting vines should be pruned often in order to control them to whatever space you have allotted for them. Some do produce suckers that will have to be maintained. Vines are something that should really be planted with plans to maintain them. They are not low maintenance.
Japanese beetles destroyed my grapes.( Minnesota ) Yes I tried picking,beetles off…but I worked 12 +2 hrs drive time. Bugs ate every thin off the vines.
Surely passiflora incarnata can hybridize with the tropical cousins? Somebody please do some work on that project for us.
I have six varieties I’ll be growing in spring.. I plan to pick the tastiest and hybridize it w a local maypop
i live in the Netherlands, not sure how our climate compares to the US zones, but I never had ruits on my Akebia Quinata, I just enjoyed the flowers. I'm curious to how you know which grapes are hybrids or what they're called. also I don't like Kiwis, they alwas die down in winter and I had one for 10 years or so and it never got flowers let alone fruits
For the Akebia you need two different varieties to get fruit. My neighbours had a plant that never had fruit until I planted two additional varieties in my garden, ever since we both get huge amounts of Akebia fruits every year.
@@annakastlunger yeah but even then they won't ripen in time as our season is too short. I really liked the delicate floers.
Strange. Here in Heidelberg/ Germany Akebia ripens in August / September without problems. They will just get moldy if it rains too much. Kiwis grow here well, too. Deliciosa as well as arguta
@@allthefruit Here in Vienna / Austria they ripen in mid September. I don't know how long the season in the Netherlands is in comparison to Vienna, but I see no reason why it should be too short for Akebia to ripen. There are other fruits that need a much longer season.
Unfortunately, Hardy Kiwi is invasive and can cause damage in forests by overwhelming local vegetation.
Absolutely. Anytime people grow a vining plant they should follow local guidelines and take care to prune the plants properly. Vines take a lot of work. Happy growing!
Sadly, quite a few plants of great nutritional value are invasive. After all, if you want to plant a crop, it comes in handy, if they grow easily and are hard to kill... Only the more modern edible plants tend to be very sensitive, requiring fertilisers and pesticides to even exist...
If you can redo this vid and add SOIL TYPE (PH and Clay- Sandiness Level for each it would be perfect!
Or you could google?
Im in zone 3, my grapes grow well.
What varieties?
Please give us the variety of kiwi you are growing and where I might find it in Central Florida
Hi Peggy! The variety of of kiwi that I grow is called Issai. You can find it being sold on logees.com. Its a great vine to grow. Thanks so much for the comment and support!
@@PlantFanatics Thanks for the info. Your channel is very helpful and interesting. I subscribed a few videos ago. I think it's important that we all support each other 👩🌾👍
If you where listening he told you and its is searchable I found it online once I LOOKED.
Found a good spot for may pop
Perfect!
@@PlantFanatics in Texas!
I tried Maypops. Not too tasty. Just a bag of juice and seeds. They also attract carpenter bees. (Their primary pollinator.) I chucked them- my decks and fence couldn't take all the carpenter bees.
There are many natural varieties of maypops. Some are good, and some are terrible. It just depends which kind you have. In the wild many will be different.
That sad face you make when you live on the border of Plant Hardiness Zones 2b/3a, and you realize it's too cold for the cold hardy fruits in this video.
Chocolate vine is difficult to grow. I have 3 of them and its not a cold hardy it resist 45F no more less. But its a picky vine
That’s very interesting! I’ve got the purple flowered variety and the white flowered variety. Both have done fine in temps below zero. What zone are you in?
5 and 6 zone.
Chicago IL it doest like chicago then hahahaha i tried many times but it keeps dying. I tried everything. I gave up after trying 6 times
Mine stays green all winter down to the teens in Fahrenheit, interesting that yours doesn't
What growing zones/regions are we talking here? Water needs? Elevations...?
The hardiness zones are all different now and they keep changing. These won’t Winter over well or even survive without some type of protection
I've never had a planting zone change in my lifetime. I do keep hearing that such a thing is taking place. I've yet to see a difference with the types of plants that will grow here.
Would have been nice to post the names and possible places to procure seeds or plants.
The video slides have the scientific names...???
It’s different for everyone. Just requires a quick Google search and seeing which places are best for you.
When is your guys passion fruit gonna be in stock again?
Hey! Great to hear from you. It will be back in stock and ready for shipping in the spring. Thanks for the great question!
I’ve tried to start passion fruit from seeds bought from the store. Can not get them to sprout, what am I doing wrong?
Are you making sure to remove all of the leftover fruit from the seeds? Let them dry out for a little while. If not, mold can cause the seeds to die before they sprout.
they take a long time to sprout ..like a month
Where you can find this plant
TheAmericanFigCompany.com has a great tasting maypop.
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video!
I grow a lot of grapes in Minnesota. Too bad Japanese Beatles love them
Beatles? John, Paul, George and Ringo?
I had my stupid cold hardy kiwi for years they grew a few flowers last year and nothing this year thus far.
Some varieties of hardy kiwi even from cutting take many years to start bearing fruit. It’s a patience game for sure!
@@PlantFanatics 6 years now!
Soo where can i order or get these? Thanks.
If you type them in whatever search engine you prefer, you should be able to find some nurseries who have them in stock. Sometimes you may have to sign up to the different sites and wait for them to be in stock. We will have some amazing tasting maypops available again in the spring if you go to TheAmericanFigCompany.com
Happy growing!!
@@PlantFanatics Thanks,,,and ty for helping all of us coach.
Can you put up the whole name of the kiwi in a comment so I can search it please
Do you have seeds of these plants available?
I don't sell seeds at the moment, but mainly work in cuttings and rooted plants. These will be available in the spring for purchase at TheAmericanFigCompany.com
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the video. Happy growing!
I hope the picture in the thumbnail is a real photo. I want that plant just for the flower. Damn, it isn't.
The american passion flower seems to grow well and even take over Except In My Yard. Caterpillars eat it down to the stems, it won't grow where I want it. Prefers the middle of the lawn. Love the flowers though.
It is real, hearty and prolific in my Oregon garden
The picture looks like P. caerulea to me( as opposed to P. incarnata -Maypop) It’s hardier than the passion fruit of commerce (P. edulis), but not quite as hardy as Maypop.
How cold hardy? Canada cold?
Canada is comprised of at least seven climate zones, so you would have to be a little more specific
I love how all the cold hardy versions of fruit are like slightly worse 😂
Haha, not always the case. But sometimes, yes. They give up a bit of flavor to survive in much harsher climates. But most cold hardy fruits taste amazing. I know many people in tropical climates who wish they could grow some of the trees that require chill hours. It’s all about perspective.
I’m in zone 3, it hurts me when people call zone 4-10 fruit “cold hardy”, really. I guess there was 1 zone 3 fruit, but I wonder how those in zone 2 feel.
Yes, unfortunately in the world of cold hardy fruits it’s usually meaning zones 5 and up. Below this zone the options quickly begin to dissolve with the extreme temperature drops. Zone 3 is a very very cold zone and is not considered conducive for a large number of plants.
@@PlantFanatics I have a couple plum trees and a couple Honey Crisp, they don’t produce every year, but when they do, it’s great
Zone 4 is USUALLY safe... Alberta
Grapes Native
Kiwi Non Native
Chocolate Vine Non Native
Maypop (Passionflower) Non Native
maypop is native my bad
Grapes can be grown in zone 2
Please show species names in the proper format
The problem with grapes is Japanese beetles! They’re a huge seductive draw for these little pests that decimate it. Sigh
You’ll have to be diligent with your timing and make sure to spray.
Grapes? I thought these were supposed to be rare fruits?
Some rare, some common.
Please keep in mind, invasive cost millions of dollars and ruin environments. Think of kudzu and multiflora rose.
Yes, growers should make sure they check local laws and regulations. They should also make sure to keep their plants pruned. Thanks for taking the time to watch the video!
He says this in the video
It's just crazy that kudzu has spread so far. Every part if that plant except for the seeds and seed pods is edible.
Vitis rotundifolia is actually the Muscadine/scuppernong grape native to the U.S. Southeast. That one is only hardy to about USDA Zone 7, but is the only domesticated species sufficiently disease resistant (particularly to Pierce's Disease if memory serves) to survive (& thrive--the dang things grow about 20'/yr even on nutrient poor FL Panhandle sand) the Deep South, though U.F. has come up with a few bunch grapes (e.g. Orlando Seedless) that supposedly do better. Muscadines ripen individually, in clusters of 4 to 10 very large berries rather than in big bunches of wimpy vinifera sized grapes, originally had separate male and female vines (but many self-fertile, bisexual cultivars exist today), have small leaves that would be ~worthless for dolmas, and a flavor more like jaboticaba than grape (or if really ripe, a weird combo of sugar+ale+bubblegum in the ones I had; the flavor does grow on you though) though its jelly is disappointing--almost identical to generic apple jelly. They are slipskin, usually have large seeds, and a different # of chromosomes than regular grapes so won't hybridize with them.
Fox grapes, like the "Concord" that Welch's made famous, are Vitis labrusca (or hybrids between it and vinifera). Those *are* cold hardy (but usually impossible in the Deep South). The far north varieties are usually hybrids between V. labrusca and (small berried, tart, extremely hardy) species like Vitis riparia.
I have grown up around Concord grapes ( I'm now 78) here in central Missouri, Zone 6A. They grow and winter very good, producing a large harvest every year. Excellent for fresh eating right off the vine, but I also make good wine and/or grape juice. I also am raising some "seedless Concord" grapes which look and taste the same as the seeded type.
@@charlesdevier8203 Vitis labrusca is fine in the Upper South (& up through zone 5 or in rarer cases 4, after which hardier hybrids [labrusca X riparia, usually] like Beta may be better). Except for a few U.F. selections, it fails in the Deep South due to endemic diseases there. Muscadines (Vitis rotundifolia, which is a very different species from the one [actually V. labrusca] mislabeled in the video) are grown there instead, as they are in fact cultivars of a species native to the area, which has co-evolved tolerance/immunity to the local pests there. My descriptions of muscadines were about muscadines, not fox grapes (V. labrusca) like Concord (which are probably already familiar to those outside the Deep South or vinifera areas like the West Coast)