Trying To See What's Wrong With This Ryobi Trimmer
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Thanks for watching. I found this trimmer in my neighborhood and now I have to wonder, why they gave it away.
This video is meant as entertainment, always practice safety.
I never plan on switching to electric equipment. It’s a lot funner using something gas powered.
you got that right.
Me too
Same here. I won't buy anything battery powered
I borrowed a friend’s 80v Kobalt trimmer and really liked it. That is until the battery ran down with 85% of my yard done. I had to wait about an hour for the battery to recharge so I could finish.
Until battery tech gets to a point where a battery can give me 8 to 10 hours runtime and charges from 0 percent to 100 percent in 10 minutes I'll stick with my Echo gas trimmer and Toro gas mower.
This is why when I see something on the curb and I want to take it I do. Because sometimes they are just upgrading and If you find the repairs to be to hard or costly you can always put it on the curb again. We were debating to upgrade from our 1995 ryobi 31cc to electric but we didn’t because of mainly run time. We use it for about 1-2 hours every couple weeks and at our grandpas house so we are keeping gas. Also cost.
I think you make a good point .
That's the way mine disappeared, unfortunately I had borrowed it from my neighbor, had to buy him a new one, it was an echo😢
Do you wonder if the homeowner came out, scratched his head and said to himself, "I'm sure I brought the string trimmer out", as he was about to trim his yard?😂😂
lol.. nope not at all.
I’m impressed lol. I once had a Troy bilt 4 cycle trimmer that I got from someone last year. It was 4 years old and got it for $20. I put gas in it and it started right up but after that it started having some problems. The recoil broke and had to buy a jumpstart electric starter for a drill in order to start it. It was a pain lol. To be honest with you it does not take that much oil as you think, it was a 30cc motor and probably took maybe 2 oz of oil? Not much at all lol. I threw it away because it wasn’t worth fixing, but overall, the engine design was built better than the Ryobi 4 cycle with the stupid timing belt on it which is just a nightmare. I’m happy that my Troy bilt didn’t have that.
yes you make a good point about the timing belt. thank you Brother's Lawn Equipment.
well if i had to use Battery powered lawn equipment i,d choose not to as it,s mainly a cost to replace the batteries which are not cheap depending on the area and country you live in and i,d rather use a 2 stroke or even a 4 stroke unit as they cost less to keep them running etc.
nicely said, thank you Patrick Stapleton, I appreciate It a lot.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE my pleasure mate stay safe.
i always love it when you do a more thorough cleaning, super satisfying
thank you Blue.
I have a battery power workx trimmer and a 2 and 4 stroke trimmer because sometimes you just need more power also a battery powered workx blower and a 2 stroke STIHL blower for the same reason. the battery powered workx blower is great for clearing the grass clippings off the sidewalk but i need the power of the STIHL for clearing the leaves in the fall.
nothing wrong with mixing it up a bit.
I dont want to change my tool to electric because i just recently bought a new 4in1 2Stroke trimmer for about 200$ and i just love 2stroke smell
I used to have the same but the fumes make you smell and give me headaches so I spend £400 on a stihl ap system and I have 4 ap300 9ah batteries and they last me all day
I feel the same way
I am addicted to your videos. Keep them coming! I have the full electric set of Ryobi's. Push mower, leaf blower and multi-head, on which I attach edger, weed wacker and hedge trimmer. Three of the devices came with battery so I never get stuck during a job, I just change batteries. My lawn is only ¼ acre. All are 2 years old, and no noticeable decline yet.
very nice and it's always nice to hear from a battery electric owner, thanks again.
I don't know if you noticed but the gas cap says "50:1 gas+oil" I got a kick out of that lol.
yes it was mentioned earlier, it would have cost money to make new caps that didn't always have the 50:1 already on it.
Your right. Probably another example of someone that just cannot take care of equipment. In my mind, it's a no brainer.
Sell it. 4 cycles are nosy and heavy. I’ve switched over to battery only cause it was a gift to me. The manufacturer says I was supposed to get about 23 mins out of a single charge, but I soon found out that was not true, all I get from a fully charged battery is about 16 mins which isn’t long enough to weed eat my property, therefor I just came back from the dealer and bought a bigger battery which last about 50 to 60 mins per charge. Now if all I get is about 35 to 40 mins that’s ok by me. That’ll do my whole yard. P.S. still can’t beat a gas job.
thats the plan. thank you William Snow
Very mint weedeater 50 to 60 bucks easily!!! Keep the videos coming... buddy!! Would like to see some stickers made!! I'd definitely put one of your stickers on my tool box's I'd buy some...
thank you JJ Juarez.
Sometimes you just never know
Nice and quiet😀😀😀
Battery reliability in strength and lifetime including price of battery replacement.
Yes, true
I have a Black+Decker trimmer blower combo from Walmart for $100-$120 that's been going strong for about 5-6 years now. It came with two 1.5AH batteries that are now dead, and have been replaced with a 3AH and another 1.5AH. So all in I'm about $200-$230 in a 5-6 year time frame, the only maintenance that I've preformed is lubing the plastic gears.
that's not a bad investment.
How big is your property? I live on 5 acres 2.5 of which is grass and trees. There is no way an electric unit is going to do the job for me.
@@CuriousKL Not big at all the lot size is 4,791 sqft, using cars as a measurement the the grass in the front yard is about 3 sedan size cars and the same goes for the grass in the backyard. Most of the lot is taken up by the house, driveway, and garage. I would definitely stick to gas for a larger property like yours, for small properties like mine electric is more than enough.
I have the same trimmer like new but mine blows blue smoke from the exhaust lol 🤣🤣🤣
it happens once in a while
I am not a fan of 4 stroke weedeaters but... they sell well
I hear that
During this time when gas prices were up I was considering a battery powered Echo motor unit for my Pro Attachment System of attachments but there were a couple of things that I ultimately decided against and that's the expense of buying at least two new batteries, the motor head itself and a charger. If I used them often enough and since I do semi commercial mowing I would still have to invest in a gas inverter generator to charge them. The generator would have to be a Honda EU2200i or a similar unit from Yamaha because they are some of the most robust generators out there. They also have an initial price of around $2000 Canadian.
you said it all, the first battery not an issue, it's the ones after it that get you.
I have one I got from a friend when he sold his house. , I've worked on this one and another friend's, too. . Valve Adjustment and rocker studs loosening can be issues. When running well , they are good. But it can't be turned on either side when using. It's so hot in S Fla, if I'm not done tinkering by 10am, it ain't happening.
I hear that, same here.
Great video and thanks for sharing 👍🙏👍🙏
thank you RayFpv.
I switched to battery a while back. While the trimmer works fine for me and my yard, if I had bigger yard or used it to clear patches of weeds/grass I wouldn't like it. Much less power and the battery would last long enough to finish. Also, the gas trimmer manufacturers don't put fuel shut-offs on the trimmer, so the gas sits in the lines/carb and gums it up.
wow, very good point. thank you Anthony Hawkins.
Install your own fuel shut off.
Hey bro what's up? I'm very surprised that you did a repair and cleaning in a single video working on this trimmer. Surprisingly you didn't have to do anything much on this trimmer except for an oil change and a good cleaning. I'm not changing over to battery powered lawn equipment because they are expensive, replacement batteries are expensive, they cannot be serviced and lastly the battery can't hold a charge long enough for you to get at least a quarter of the work done before you have to recharge them which take some time to charge also whereas with gas powered equipment you can go as long as you want and don't have to worry about recharging the batteries. Just add your oil and gas mixture, start up your equipment and you're good to go.
thank you Ramadin Sookhoo, and yes my reason is like yours
I have to say ryobi 2 cycle engines are tough, i have a ryobi pole saw that is near 9 years old with a ton of hours on it and it still runs strong. Of course being a small engine mechanic i take extremely good care of my power tools.
thank you Matthew Piper for vouching for them.
I bought a brand new 4 cycle weed wacker a few years ago. It would always leak out all the oil on my shirt. And it only held 2oz of oil so it didn't need to lose much to be running without lubrication. Now I have a 2-cycle and life is a lot easier with that. My original plan was to do all 4-cycle engines so I didn't have to keep clean gas and mix gas around. But keeping a 1gal can of 45ish:1 around is a lot easier than dealing with 50cc 4-cycle engines!
thank you Yardwork with John
I won't switch to electric due to the size of my property. I've had good luck with my ryobi 4 cycle so far. Mine leaks oil as well owell
i actually own one of these...has ran pretty good..only issue was i had toi get new carb as old one just quit doing its thing...i like mine...i have the blower with same engine!!
nice, glad to see, someone vouching for them .
It's always great getting a piece of gas powered equipment for free that already runs and doesn't require any repairs, I'll keep using my gas equipment until the day comes when gas equipment is either outlawed or no longer available before I switch to electric.
me too, thank you WildeFox.
Very nice find.
Thanks!
I have an EGO trimmer and blower I've been using for the past 3 years now and the only thing that has been replaced is the charger which they replaced under warranty. Battery still holding strong with minimal loss of run time. Being able to grab and go without worrying about gas is nice, and not having the mess of spilled or leaking gas. I don't think I'd go back to a 2 stroke trimmer unless I had a much larger area to maintain.
thank you for sharing your experience, I appreciate it.
I have this and love it. I did get an electric one, but the battery did not last. Had to go to the gas powered one. Not that light either. The electric one.
I know right, one year the battery is good, next the battery won't last 5 minutes
I used an old Echo curve shaft last season that was a rebuilt curb-find. I love gas engines and 2 stroke exhaust, but it wasn't comfortable and got myself a Milwaukee weed wacker this year because it was on sale.
For the size of my property, the battery aspect doesn't bother me and it actually has more power that the echo, and is very comfortable while remaining cheap to use with no downtime.
thank you for sharing your insight, I really appreciate it .
I'm in the lawn care business. I've been waiting for battery technology and cost to get to a point where it's feasible, and I think they finally have. So I've started making the changeover to electric, with the goal of having an all-electric fleet by the beginning of next season. So far I have a backpack blower and a chainsaw, both Ryobi, and both are awesome. I still need a string trimmer, a hedge trimmer, and of course a mower. I'm going to stick with Ryobi for future purchases, so batteries and chargers will be interchangeable, and because I've always loved Ryobi equipment.
Pros: No more buying, hauling, and mixing fuel. No more spills or smell. Less weight to haul around in the bed of the truck. Far less noise. FAR less repairs and maintenance (if electric equipment doesn't start, your troubleshooting checklist is one item long). The knowledge that I'm no longer polluting the air with gas-powered equipment (running a gas mower for an hour generates as much pollution as driving a car 350 miles, because of the pollution controls that cars have). The ability to advertise all-electric equipment to potential clients.
Con: There's really only one: Up-front cost. When you're operating your equipment all day, you need to start the day with multiple charged batteries, because they take more than an hour to charge. Batteries are expensive: over $200 for the 6-amp-hour battery; the mower and leaf blower each use two. And you really should use only Ryobi brand batteries; there are knock-off brands on the market for far less, but they're not the amperage they advertise and they're not as reliable. This winter, I plan on building a truck bed topper with solar panels on top and an inverter and chargers inside, which will help a bit, but even on a cloudless day I'll be burning through battery power faster than I can top it up on the road. And of course batteries don't have an infinite lifespan, so I'll need to replace them every couple years. I really don't know yet whether I'll save any money by going electric, but the other advantages make it worthwhile. Plus, battery technology continues to improve, so better batteries are probably coming in a couple years.
I hope this helps some people decide. I love your videos, but hopefully by next year I won't need to watch them! 🙂
wow, very nice plans and I'm really excited to see, how this turns out, it looks like you've done a lot of research, so you're really well informed. Question, is the vehicle you're using for the business, electric or ICE? It would be cool, if your vehicle was also a BEV.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE , I drive a Toyota pickup that rolled off the assembly line during the Bush administration -- the *first* Bush. I love it and it's basically immortal, so though it would be cool to get an electric truck someday, I don't see that happening in the foreseeable future.
very nice!
One man's junk is another man's treasure!
Fred G Sanfard
true
She definently purred better with the fresh oil 🛢
you got that right, thanks Jared H.
Most of my garden equipment is four-stroke Honda powered and it has all been exceptionally reliable over the years. I have been let down by carburettor faults but given that the carbs are made by the usual suspects I can't blame Honda. The exceptions are the hedge trimmer which has a Chinese two-stroke and the Stihl chainsaw. Both are not easy starters.
Great point!
Nice work bench.
Thanks!
That does look like a nice trimmer for what you get. I wont be switching to electric they just dont look as fun to use and you can't work on them which is something I enjoy.
that makes sense to me.
I have nothing against battery/corded tools, it really depends on the tool itself. I have a corded chipper/shredder, pressure washer, and a couple hedge trimmers. these items I only use 4 - 6 times a year and they work perfectly for my homeowner uses. the up-front cost, customer service and battery/charger obsolescence keeps me from going with an electric mower and trimmer. when it comes to the point of switching to electric, I'm going to go with xeriscaping and a veggie garden, no more grass. it's hard to beat simplicity and low maintenance, in my opinion.
you make a good point Donald McFarland.
With all that oil everywhere, I think the previous owner might have been putting in mixed gas in it, the gas tank cap says 50:1 gas +oil on it. Maybe that person just didn’t have the knowledge that 4 cycle takes just gas. It was probably smoking so much and that’s why they got rid of it.
you might be right.
Ciao bel video. Che olio di gradazione hai usato sembrava molto trasparente. Grazie
nessun problema. L'olio che uso è un olio motore 10w30
That was a good find ! It runs good and works and most 4 cycle weed whackers have a pretty good bit of power also ! I have a ryobi 4 cycle handheld blower that I have to troubleshoot , I think they put motor oil in the gas tank ??? Great video !
thank you Mark Harris.
Why was there oil under the cover, could it be leaking oil and need further repairs? Thanks for all the videos
Yes It's a good possibility, But I don't think the front engine seal, is not leaking because the Timing belt was still dry. It's more than likely coming from intake system.
I have a 4.5 acre property. Much too large for battery equipment.
yes I would agree with that.
I saw you incorrect in checking oil, need do Wipe dipstick clean; re-seat in hole and rethread.
hey thanks for watching.... let me check the owners manual again and see what it says..
here you go, "Do not Rethread"
www.manualslib.com/manual/143373/Ryobi-C430-Ry34421.html?page=13#manual
What kind of cleaner did you use on the unit? Great video, thanks.
sure, Super Heavy Duty Degreaser from Harbor Freight
My Stihl trimmer is still going strong but is nearly 20 years old. I’ll wait for it to kick the bucket before I get the electric Stihl trimmer. My next one will be the electric one.
cool , let me know how it goes .
The trimmer heads on those weed wackers are terrible to work with and the timing belt issue is true. A sprocket and chain would have worked much better
you got that right.
A batterypack could cost alot and also it wears out after a while. A gas is I think more powerful and the parts is or the faulure could be somewhat more easier to fix. An electric is maybe more easier to fix but I think it is more expensive like the engine itself or the batterypack.
very well said.
I have a Kobalt (Lowe's house brand) 80V mower. It stopped working. Something internal, electrical. Can't get it fixed. Lowe's wont touch it because it's out of warranty. Small engine shops won't touch it because it's not a "small engine." So I replaced it with a Honda mower this year.
In general, the lack of standardization really ticks me off. You're tied into a brand with the batteries. Who wants a Ryobi charger, and a Makita charger, and a Milwaukee charger, and a DeWalt charger? No, you buy one, and then you're in that brand's "ecosystem."
I've got a Gravely zero turn, a Honda mower and power washer, an Echo trimmer, and a Schröder backpack blower. My "ecosystem?" Dino syrup.
you make a very good point, but until standardization takes place, that's what we'll have to deal with , it's a shame really.
Another great video. Living in the city I have gone to a battery-operated trimmer; I can go and do my lawn and neighbors with no problem and have battery power left. Question for you...If you sell a working mower or trimmer and they come back in just a couple of days with a problem that it won't start etc. Will you take a look at it or what do you do?
yes and the reason, Is because I need to know, was it something I did, or was it user error.
That Ryobi 4 cycle weed whacker is actually really powerful my I used the same one before let me tell you 4 cycle is way more powerful then 2 cycle people throw away things for dumb reasons
thank you Scott Dunn, and yes, they do. I appreciate your time.
Question why does it say 50:1 if it's 4 cycle. Also it takes 2oz of oil 20-50w
it would cost them money to cast new gas caps that don't say 50:1, so they didn't bother with it, Also, I wouldn't hurt to run mixed fuel in there either, it's just more lubrication.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE o ok I was just wondering about that I'll tell my friend that as well
very nice to know, I was hoping to try that out too.
I would stay away from those trimmers with timing belt, it could be troublesome
As for batteries, I have been bitten many times by batteries no longer being available for the tools I have bought. That's a big F U from the manufacturer. Yes DeWalt/Black and Dekker I am looking at you. And Bosch and Makita.
Til batteries become common and generic I am not interested.
When I was a kid my parents had a battery electric lawnmower, it had a half horsepower motor and was powered by a car style 12V lead acid battery. Any deep cycle battery of about the right size would work. We had it for about twenty years til the motor burnt out. It was perfect for our size of suburban lawn and was put on a trickle charger til the next weekend.
I have the same trimmer used once no start only use non ethnaol fuel will take off cover and check trimming , if it's the same You'll find mine in the trash too
hopefully you'll find an answer
i like this ryobi but the exhaust fumes are gnarly..
yes they are.
Man that thing cuts better than mine
when it's working, it's not bad.
Why does the gas cap say 50:1 I thought 4 stroke trimmers used regular gas
they have a surplus of Fuel caps, that are already printed to say, 50:1, and they didn't want to make new caps that Didn't say it. It was a money issue.
Makes my 2 smoke Ryobi sound like an angry wasp nest.
yes there's quite a sound difference
I have a battery powered trimmer. In my opinion, they don't last long before needing a recharge.
thank you Christopher Marshall.
I always clean something before I try and sell it. If it's clean it will sell easier
Thank you James Hedrick.
Honestly in my opinion, the 40 V cordless Ryobi is extremely underpowered and slow to wind up and it’s hard to use on the most thin grass
I'd have to agree with you
I was going to work on a old generator that’s been sitting outside for many many many years to see if it would even work it had compression but I just ended up not working on it because there was a metal man getting some metal and the middleman took the generator. I like gas machines better than battery because I feel like gas machines have more power than battery does. But then again I could be wrong. I have a mixture of gas products and battery products.
very nice, too bad about the generator
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yea. Maybe one day I will find one.
Can I clean the entire engine with water? What if the water go into the piston?
If water gets into the engine, empty the oil out put new oil in it. Take the spark plug out and pull the rope and pull the rope and it will push out any water that got in the cylinder. After wards put the spark plug back if it is good. Then fill with gas and start it up.
yes you can, but you have to be very careful not to get any water in the engine, if you did, it could get hydro-locked.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate your videos 'cause they're always useful when I have to repair an engine!! Have a nice day!
I will thanks.
Why does the fuel cap say to run mix if its a 4-stroke?
they have 1000's of pre-made caps, and didn't feel like making new ones that didn't say 50:1 on it.
I’m guessing that the previous owner got tired of constantly shutting the thing off to change the line. I would just spend the $30 and install a bump head.
me too.
Got yet another question. Last year i went to the gas station, filled up a 10 liter gas can and went home. I had 4 liters left for this year. When i checked it smelled like gas but had an orange-brownish color. Was it stabilized?
stabilizing it, won't necessarily keep it from changing color. as to your question, no.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Thanks for the response!
no problem
Do I need to use 25 to 1 or can I use 50
on this trimmer, you don't need to mix Fuel and gasoline. They just used the fuel caps they still have and they all say 50;1
What’s the point of a 4 cycle trimmer if it still burns mix gas?
the cap is the same cap for the 2 stroke, they didn't change it for the 4 stroke it still uses straight gasoline.
That is $250 new currently at Home Depot for the same straight shaft model; curved shaft is $169. Nice job. I would ask $100 for it and accept $75 or $80 without any qualms about it.
I think your pricing is spot on.
Wait a minute, if this is a 4-cycle, why does the gas cap say "50:1 oil + gas"? Is it the wrong cap or does it still want oil in the gas even though its a 4 cycle.
they didn't see a need to make a new gas cap that didn't say 50:1 on it.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE But if you run 50:1 in it, isn't it going to tend to clog up the carb and the exhaust burning all that oil for no reason?
don't run 50:1 in this 4 cycle, it's not needed. As far as what will happen? It's going to smoke, and clog the spark arrestor screen. Not sure what it will do to the carb.
There is NO WAY i will ever switch over to a battery powered trimmer, chain saw, blower, lawn mower, etc. I do not have an issue with the current technology of cordless power tools i.e., drill/driver, circular saw and the like. We are becoming a very lazy irresponsible society. Gas powered engines belong where they are now, and need to remain there.
thank you Keith Dunbar.
Dirt also sometimes lowers the performance of machines
you're right about that.
What did you use to clean (that spray bottle solution)?
one was a dish soap and water combo, while the other one was off the shelf degreaser from Wally World.
I like petrol powered always
me too!
Will My 2stroke attachments fit on this 4
if the shaft size is the same, it should
Wait...it says 4 cycle on the top, yet says 50:1 oil+gas....what
they didn't bother changing the gas cap to not say anything
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I wonder how many of these were ruined due to someone not understanding that it used regular gas, due to getting it used with a worn off "4 Cycle" sticker. Or just never reading the manual and going with "well they all take oil, and this one is no different"
who knows but I bet it's a lot.
Battery operating equipment does not have enough battery life for most jobs, so no, I wouldn’t switch
agreed
I have been using Petrol equipment since I was kid. I think battery equipment is just a waste of time and money
my thoughts exactly, thank you Patrick Barham.
I wont ever switch to electric the power and run time is just way better with gas I weed eat for 4 plus hrs at a time so electric isn’t for me
thank you Jaydon Sorrels.
I had a Ryobi electric trimmer that lasted 1 1/2 years and it fell apart. I wouldn't take anything by Ryobi for nothing. Garbage.
I've heard that before
Easy fix easy money to sell.
you got that right.
I don't like electric weed eater and gas weed eater
me neither.