Is The Golden Boy A Generational Failure ?
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Trevor Lawrence got a huge pay day, signing a 5 year, 275 million dollar deal. But questions have risen on whether the golden boy (Trevor Lawrence), has lived up to the generational hype that he was supposed to be.
Today we look at other Generational, once a decade, quarterbacks and compare them to Trevor Lawrence. To then determine on if Trevor Lawrence aka Golden Boy, has lived up to the generational Hype.
Do you think Lawrence has lived up to the Generational Hype?
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If some parts of the video don't seem to quite line up, I apologize. The NFL has copyrighted some footage and I am forced to delete those parts of the video unfortunately to remain monetized.
Maybe we just need to stop labeling multiple QBs each year as “generational”
Agreed. I see there only being 4 true Generational guys, hence why I only included those guys int he video.
But the "Generational" term is thrown around way too much. Like Caleb this year... He is "Generational", he absolutely is not. He is very talented QB. Not a Generational Prospect.
@@JustAnFootballGuycaleb is definitely a generational prospect. his off platform playmaking ability is sublime
He’ll probably have a just fine career in Jax, break franchise records, but not be the top QB in the game.
That’s probably fine, but won’t meet expectations.
I agree though, we don’t need to hype every single QB that is a top draft pick as the second coming.
Winning the National Championship as a true freshman will do that to an NFL prospect.
turn your music down 15-20%. you're drowning yourself out.
Yeah I hear ya, I was having trouble mixing the audio. Will do for next time 👍
@@JustAnFootballGuythat's good cause other than that it was a good video
Trevor is a good qb. He'll just never be the guy he was hyped to be. Im a fan and after 3 seasons i realized hes not as good as he thinks he is but hes better than everyone else says he is.
Definitely at a Jared Goff level, but I think he good that guy. We will see!
Trevor has no talent he can throw far that doesn’t make you talented
@AlexRosner-v8t No talent? Stop lol
@@GRaider2014I mean he’s right what is Trevor elite at? He isn’t accurate, he doesn’t read defenses well he’s just got a slinger mentality
We just watched a video about how the other 3 guys took 3 or so years to truly show up. I don't think we can say he isn't generational yet. We can't predict the future.
It’s odd with Trevor. He’s basically just like Zion. He obviously hasn’t lived up to the generational hype, but is still a good player and can win in this league. This season’s definitely gonna be interesting: if he has a phenomenal season the generational talks are back up, if not, then well we know what he is.
I like to see him with a real WR 1 before I write him off as not. I still don’t like his receiving options for this coming season
Trevor has no talent
@@JustAnFootballGuy welll he did just have calvin ridley, lost him, so this is really is his prove it year as a "generational talent" he is still above average🤷♂
He's nothing like zion
@@coltonm211 compare to the other #1 receivers that other QBs have, Calvin Ridley isnt that much. hes already on his 3rd team and thats usually not a good sign. he had his best years with the Falcons, but that 1 1/2 year of not playing affected him
He’s a good player who’s basically going in to his 3rd year cause his rookie year was a mess with that coaching staff
Man tell me about it… Urban was embarrassingly bad
@@JustAnFootballGuy agreed and did Lawrence no justice to his reputation
Justin fields had a messy coaching staff the entire time in Chicago. Yet they don't give him slack? Trevor lawrence is like a dak Prescott. Decent qb but will never make it past the first round
Great video. Well done Only thing id change is dont let the music drown you out.
Youre very knowledgable about the subject and have a good way of putting it across.
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Thanks man! I appreciate the love and support.
I had thought that with music and adjusted it before I uploaded but seems like it needs to be put down more. Thank you for saying that!
@JustAnFootballGuy you know your football. That's the key. Especially when presenting the material. So don't worry. I posted that for your future reference.
And help you grow your base 👍
The list of QB's who have had a shootout and almost won against Mahomes in KC during the playoffs consists of only Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow and Josh Allen.... pretty elite company there. People are selling on this man right before he booms.
I’m sure the Jets would have loved to have been “stuck” with him as compared to Wilson.
Haha that’s a great way put it! It’s definitely better than the alternative
Trever should be selling shampoo
Probably should. He would get a lot of money in sponsorships
Haha
A Loriel sponsorship or head and Shoulders would be millions
He’d be doing the head and shoulders if he was a little better than he is. Him, Patrick and Polomalu would be a great trio
Or play a Thor variant.
Lawrence is a good enough qb but we need to stop comparing these guys coming out of College to qbs who are in the HOF. Its enough pressure being drafted #1 and being the starting qb now he needs to live up to some of the greats?
Could not agree more… I look at Lawrence as one of those Generational prospects like Elway, Luck and manning.
But for guys like Caleb Williams, Kyler Murray, Joe burrow, I didnt see them as “Generational” prospects. Really good ones.
All that to say, we do put that generational prospect label on too many guys when they truly aren’t that.
Yeah he kinda dose if he doesn’t want be called the system qb
He never had to overcame problems in his life before the NFL, that‘s the problem!
Now everybody is good and his advantage in development is gone…
Thats a good point
He had more injuries than the operation man last season. He’s 24. When he’s healthy and doesn’t have the worst coach in NFL history coaching him, he’s been excellent. think we should all slow down
Yeah let’s pump the brakes on the hate on Lawrence is my stance too
Thank you, Urban Meyer.
Yeah, it’s almost like having an ankle, knee, head, and throwing shoulder injury all at the same time affects your performance ability😅
3 of your 4 generational QBs were drafted by the Colts.
Elway was traded days later to the broncos after he got drafted.
It is interesting the colts drafted 2 of them.
@JustAnFootballGuy still drafted #1 by the Colts then traded. Do the math. 3.
Definitely not a bust
Trevor will have his best year watch
I hope so! Hopefully Brian Thomas jr is what he needs to be as a no.1 WR.
Just found your channel and subbed good stuff man keep it up 🤙🏽
Thanks man I appreciate the love and support! Got another video cooked up, coming out in the next few days.
Give him some time. Everyone wants everything microwaved. He has that winner attitude. I do believe he can lead the jags to a Superbowl but everything has to go right on top of him having a good season.
Exactly my thinking! He doesn’t even have a #1 WR yet… they should trade for Higgins. But I think he can lead them to a Super Bowl too. It’s so hard to win in the NFL.
@@JustAnFootballGuy I really believe they have weapons in engram and Kirk but now that they have a decent O-line I think Etienne and bigsby will have way better seasons than they did last year.
I honestly feel the same way about Bryce Young. Everyone calling him a bust when he went to quite literally the worst situation in the nfl and had a coach change mid season. I’d personally wait a season before calling him a full on bust
@@DbAcegamingyou hear yourself talking about engram and Kirk as weapons. There good support or X factor players but they don’t have a guy to take over a game. He needs a real weapon to open up the X factors
@@Iceman-cf2oc u sleep 😴 to think engram and Kirk aren't weapons. We'll see
He is the new Matt Staford when he was on the Lions.
That’s a good connection haha
nah, dont say that to a future hof
Matt Stafford had the stats and was obviously being held back. Trevor doesn't have the stats
No it’s not
@@saulgoodman8501people did not feel stafford was obviously held back. Which is insane but
When he came back versus San Diego lmao I was dying
Great video. I think we also have to keep in mind that Lawrence came in a year earlier than guys like Luck and Elway. When you age-adjust the start of their career, Lawrence looks even better. We don't even need to mention that the last quarter of 2023 he had a high ankle sprain, shoulder sprain and a concussion, but played because the Jags were so close to playoffs -- insane!
A lot of, honestly, casual football fans have some strong takes on Lawrence, but everyone who charts this stuff as a matter of profession thinks Lawrence is a stud. He's become a litmus test to me of who actually understands football.
Thank you! I appreciate your support. And I agree with what you said.
I may or may not agree with the test on a persons football Knowledge by asking them about Lawrence👀👀
@@JustAnFootballGuyIt’s certainly a good test to see who actually watches Jaguars games! Us Jags fans have watched a lot of bad qb play over the years, and it’s pretty obvious that while Trevor isn’t perfect yet, he’s better than anyone we’ve had since Mark Brunell😅
Good video. I just found your channel. Just have one piece of advice: keep an eye on that music volume, it was overpowering your voice in a few parts of the video.
Yeah I didn't mix the music well for the video. thats my bad. Thanks for being kind about it, and im glad you enjoyed the video otherwise.
In the medias eyes but his bank account says different😂
Haha I love that😂
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Matthew Stafford should 100% be on this list. Everyone knew what he was going to be.
@@tylerwilson8615 Was he a generational prospect? He was a great talent but I don’t know.
I Love Matthew Stafford as a lions and rams fan, but I see him in that tier of Kyler Murray, Caleb Williams, Joe burrow, Young, level of talent
@@JustAnFootballGuy I respect your opinion but look at every WR1 Stafford has ever had. First read Stafford is a thing. He made Kenny Golladay look like a top 5 receiver in football. He made Cooper Kupp look like an absolute unstoppable monster. He made Puca Nuccua look like Cooper Kupp. Dude is crazy good and everyone knew he was gonna be a number one pick well before his last season at Georgia. I think Stafford is the most underrated qb in nfl history. Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers credit him with the no look passes and “Stafford windows” he just wasn’t pushed because he was on the Lions. First season in LA wins a Super Bowl. Not to mention he could’ve played pro baseball as a catcher or a shortstop. Dude is crazy talented.
@@tylerwilson8615what has he done tho? He’s not on par with other all time qbs and his only superbowl season was with a stacked super team and Cupp won that bowl if we’re being honest Stafford wasn’t the hero he’s great and a lot better then most qbs but most underrated qb of all time I wouldn’t go that far
@@THEbackbender420he got Kenny Golladay $72,000,000 dollars. He caught like 60 more passes after he left Detroit(in his prime) and was out of the league. Made Marvin Jones look like a superstar and two of the best wide receiver seasons in NFL history had Matthew Stafford throwing to them. Dude played with a broken back and probably broke it from carrying a poverty franchise. Matthew Stafford never gets enough credit.
@@tylerwilson8615I like how you credit Stafford for 2 historic wr seasons without mentioning that it was Megatron he was throwing to lmao that shit does not count as an accolade for stafford im sorry
I really don’t understand people we’re over here calling Brock purdy a system qb but we’re also saying that qbs like Trevor Lawrence need help when every qb needs help
Very fair point. It is a team game in the end, which is cheesy but so true.
To this day i still will never understand all the hype around trevor lawrence or why he was ever considered to be this generational talent watching him at clemson i just couldn't see it when he played real defenses he looked bad missing simple throws not being able to go through his progressions turning the ball over hell not even looking like he knew how to read defenses and its literally the same old story in the nfl he's not who the scouts thought he was i just dont understand how anyone couldnt find any of the holes in his game alarming when he was in college because they were on disply a whole lot especially in big games
Good production quality for a small channel
Thanks man! I’m trying to my best with the limited time I have. Still a work in progress
This is a masterpiece of a video, truly magnificent.
Thanks man, I appreciate the love !
W vid
I like how you went over the other quarterbacks and how they were at the point in their career where Lawrence is now
Awesome I’m glad you liked that part man! It was a different way to do the video, but I think it paid off.
@@JustAnFootballGuy yeah it did
How many playoff wins does Tua and Herbert have again? Oh just checking
@@billsmafia7769 I don’t feel I hated on Lawrence. Just bringing up a discussion
We can't get over it because his build looks the part, but he can't truly do it.
Why do you feel he can't do it?
Loved your video, easy sub (remember me when your channel takes off)!!!
Thanks man I’m glad you enjoyed it!! And I’ll try! It’s hard to remember with how many people comment, but if you keep commenting then I will!
Luck had awful pass protection.
That’s fair.
so just like Lawrence?
Wow dude, you're really trying to say that; because his stats are similar to Manning and Elway in their first few years, he's really a generational QB we're just looking at it wrong. By that metric, almost every QB has been a generational QB, we were just looking at them wrong.
I also think that you're using generational wrong, but that's more semantics. As far as Lawrence goes. He's in the top half of QBs, but I still think the Jags made a mistake drafting him. IMHO, they should have traded that pick and gotten more strength in other positions. They still had the QB that took them to a superbowl on the roster at this time. They weren't losing games because of QB play. I guess GMs know more than average fans, though.
Well thats why I used Generational moments. The key for the whole video which some have gotten confused by is comparing Generational Prospects. The term Generational is thrown around way too much. Every other year there is a Generational prospect.
But to me, Generational means to be a almost perfect prospect, that has a very low chance of failing, the kind of prospect you only see once a decade.
I guess I disagree with Lawrence being a mistake. It's the best move the Jags could have made.
@JustAnFootballGuy we can agree to disagree on whether or not the Jags made the right decision. I think Gardner could have put the Jags as a perennial playoff contender had they invested into using the draft to get WRs and lineman. The same basic issues you're saying are holding TL back.
As far as your generational moments, it looked like you were using comeback victories as your metric. TL has what 6 comeback wins in his first 3 seasons. Jay Cutler had more than double that number. I don't really think that you consider Cutler a generational QB. But again, I may be wrong about my interpretation of your arguments, but imho, TL can't really hold the bootstraps of Manning or Elway. He was statistically worse than those guys in College, he was just lucky enough to be one of the juggernaut teams during his college career. I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure that Lawrence played with more NFL talent in college than Manning and Elway combined.
@@foddersfollies7494 Statistically he was worse than Manning and Elway in college? That's ridiculous considering Lawrence completion percentage is greater, had a better touchdown to interception ratio, just about every single passing metric he's superior to Elway and Manning and he even threw more touchdowns than both despite the fact he played three years compared to Elway and Manning who both played four years.
Now, times are different so passing statistics have to be taken within the context of the times but your comment of him being statistically worse is just flat out wrong. Also, Manning had some great talent around him at Tennessee, he wasn't throwing to bums, they even won the National Championship the year after Manning left, Manning's senior year they played Nebraska as Nebraska was going for a national championship. The year Manning got drafted Tennessee had 3 players drafted in the first round. From 1997-1999 Tennessee had 2 receivers drafted in the second round and another drafted in the first round so he was throwing to talented guys as well.
Elway on the other hand, he did not have near the talent of Manning or Lawrence in college, that is true.
He can really thank Doug Peterson though. 😅
I have mixed feelings about Doug but He has helped him get his career back on track for development
Calling Peyton manning a failure is crazy lol
@@FAJINNN I didn’t say he was a failure. I said In the first few years of his career, he didn’t really live up to that generational expectation.
@@JustAnFootballGuythat is a fact
Great video, Im excited for the season because of this video Also great choice of music, add the to tension and extremely well timed
Thank you I appreciate that a lot! That’s exactly what I am going for.
Did you think the music was too loud though?
@@JustAnFootballGuy Nah definitely not too loud, because ur music had alot instruments it had a constant present, which mad it seem in line with ur voice but I never found it over powering ur voice or disturbing the things u was saying
All i hear about is how good he is and hes never done anything noteworthy 😂
What about the playoff game against the chargers?
trevor lawrence is jameis winston with a 275 million dollar contract
He's Daniel Jones with hair
@@ShawnReed-ny1hd the disrespect 😂
Goes to show how Tom Brady is so awesome. Not even considered a generational quarterback even now, and he way way exceeded in level of play all these mentioned.
Absolutely. Many hate Brady, but he is the best.
Next golden boy: arch manning?
We shall see! I really liked what he did in the Texas Spring game but it was against his own team and not the real thing.
Man I'm glad no one really cares about Herbert because man he'd be raked threw the coals and slaughtered if Lawrence gets killed despite having a division win and a playoff win
Fair enough. I loved Herbert out of college, I didn’t have a platform then but I sure was yapping about him to my friends.
I think Herbert will have his moment, just not yet… it’s rebuild time but when harbaugh puts together a good offense. Herbert will be cooking
@@JustAnFootballGuy I'm not calling him a bum or anything. But you see other QBs get absolutely cooked and scolded for doing far more than Herbert but you see literally not a bad word about him. I'm on the side of, if we give you so much credit when you win, you gotta take blame when you lose
Herbert and Lawrence are the most overrated qbs rn. They don't do anything that great but get all this hype 😂
It’s too early to write him off, and Trevor is capable. But he won’t have the time that Elway did. The window of opportunity doesn’t stay open in the NFL like it once did.
Way too early. The guy still doesn't have a WR 1!
Subscribed at 807 subs. I feel like this channel got potential to definitely get 100k or more subs in the future. Great video
Thanks man!! I appreciate the love, hope you stay around for the long run!
The Prince who was Promised, his song really is that of ice and fire. I believe he can be the generational QB that every sees him to be. We've seen him do it. let's not just lie and say he's had a elite roster around him. He's that guy. You don't do what he did in the playoffs, be 8-3 before you have a high ankle sprain, meaning he can't move or plant the way he wants, shoulder injury so he can't throw the way he wants, and then a concussion, enough said. Why I believe they should just trade for Aiyuk from the 49ers and get the man a real #1 WR and get the max out of Lawrence.
Exactly. I feel they should trade for Higgins next season. That connection and I believe Higgins is overshadowed by Chase.
@@JustAnFootballGuy it's just funny when it comes to Sunshine, no one talks about his weapons being avg at best. Ridley wasn't ATL Ridley last year he just wasn't. Give him that one nice WR and I think you'll see magic
I think the biggest problem surrounding Tlaw has been related to the lack of consistent talent surrounding him. Realistically he only had Kirk and Engram for the last two seasons, Ridley didn't even come close to performing at an adequate level for a WR1. If you watch the film back, Trev of course has an overthrowing problem, but his receivers get hit in the hands a lot and drop the passes. I don't think it's valid to write him off yet after his monstrously dominant career from HS to Clemson. Regardless, love the vid!
Thanks for leaving a comment and love man! I would agree. I like Kirk but he is a good slot only, engram- hot and cold, and Ridley was simply a let down.
He needs that true #1 guy. I think the jags should trade for Higgins. They got that connection.
@@JustAnFootballGuy I completely agree, Higgins would’ve been an amazing trade this off season but Gabe Davis was also a decent pickup!
He has tremendous natural talent. He'll figure it out.
I think he will too
Bro the production on this amazing
Thanks man, I appreciate the love. Means a lot. I work full time, go to school and then work on this
Always thought and been saying Lawrence is overrated since he was in college. I'd always thought what Fields career would look like if he went to the Jags or Jets instead of the Bears.
I don’t know man, I’d take Lawrence over fields any day
He’s a generational INT machine. Tua and Herbert are both better.
I don't think Tua is, but I agree Herbert is.
Remember Tua, mahomes and Allen all had more interceptions than him last year
I have a feeling manning wouldn’t have made it to year 3 with the colts in modern times. Teams aren’t as patient imo
I agree. Teams are way too impatient. Like with Bryce Young, the guy had nothing around him. He really doesn't have much still. But this year probably will be make it or break it year.
He's good enough to win with, but not win because of. Adding Brian Thomas will help massively. I think the jags will finish 2nd in the south/make playoffs due to their defense
he ain't necessarily bad... its just that he's not shown anything "generational" nor even "superstar" on his game so far...
I feel the chargers playoff game definitely showed that. 2-3 interceptions were not his fault
Good video but the music gets annoying
Yeah I had it loud, I will make sure I adjust it for the next video
Thanks for watching tho!!
trevor lawrence need a elite oc, pgc and qbc
Peterson should remain as playcaller because the actual OC wasn’t cutting it for sure
First 3 years
Luck: 95 TD’s, 14,787 Yd’s, 55 INT, 33 Wins
Trevor: 63 TD’s, 12,276 Yd’s, 44 INT, 21 Wins
Not even close. AND Trevor is in a much MUCH more pass heavy league than the people you compared him to.
Fair enough. Luck also had two elite receivers with Wayne and Hilton.
@@JustAnFootballGuy So did Peyton and Elway. The only QB who has done it consistently at a high level without an elite receiver is Brady and Mahomes.
All other QB’s… Marino, Moon, Young, etc. Had elite receivers. The player makes them Elite. TY most likely won’t make the HoF and isn’t Elite.
Trevor doesn't have that fire. Brady is throwing tablets, Pat is yelling at people. He comes across as whatever after a loss. I'll just move on. All is good. You gotta have that fire he doesn't have.
I can see that. That’s something I’ve noticed about other guys that are successful versus not.
@@JustAnFootballGuy I remember one loss, at the press conference he didn't even seem upset. Watch Brady or Pat after a loss. They play like their hair is on fire. Different level of intensity. Some guys are just quieter but the team needs to see you are all in.
yelling and screaming doesn't mean anything. Joe Montana wasn't a yeller or screamer and he led the 49ers just fine, as a coach Tony Dungy never yelled and was successful. As a rookie Lawrence also stood up for his running back after they benched the running back for a fumble. Lawrence went to his coaches and spoke up for his guy and let them know they needed to put him back in. He's shown he'll stick up for his guys. There are plenty of guys who have fire, just because they aren't animated doesn't mean they don't care or have fire meanwhile plenty of guys yell, scream, are animated and are poor leaders.
possibly, pressure is on him big time this year. he collapsed last year.
Nah he had some injuries he was playing through and the Offensive coordinator actually started calling plays and it looked bad. Lots of drops and the o line was bad
@@JustAnFootballGuy doesnt really reduce the pressure on him though
Will Levis = the actual Generational Talent
TITAN UP!
I actually really like Will Levis! But I don’t think he was a generational prospect. I hope he will take the next step this year
Levis has all the potential to be elite with those WRS
Are you joking?
I dont trust a man who puts mayonnaise in his coffee I'm sorry bros an anomaly i like him but....that's just criminal
@@Jdkshhsid7756sb Will Levis is terrible fr
If Lamar had even 1% of these excuses. Different strokes for different folks I guess .....
I feel for Lamar too. I just didn’t make a video on him yet! I only have so much time. I work full time and go to school.
He never has had a #1 WR, and he still doesn’t
He is good, but relative to how much he was hyped coming into the draft, he is the biggest bust in NFL history.
I don’t know about the biggest bust ever… that’s a bit steep. He is a really good qb at least
@@JustAnFootballGuy the thing is, given how much he was hyped before the draft, his career should have turned out as the greatest QB of all-time by a significant margin. If he lived up to the hype, he would be far better than Mahomes and the Jags would have won the Super Bowl all 3 seasons so far. This guy was hyped up to be the second coming of Christ himself, and even now people fail to realize that when evaluating his potential. So maybe “bust” is the wrong term, but he is the biggest draft disappointment even when compared to actual busts like Ryan Leaf.
Leaf was a terrible QB though man… I get Lawrence hasn’t been consistent, but at the same time he doesn’t have an elite playcaller, elite receivers or offensive line.
He needs better weapons and the o line has been getting worse year after year.
@@JustAnFootballGuy You’re still missing the point. Lawrence was supposed to be situation-proof. In fact, he was supposed to elevate any situation to be the greatest in the league. People point to Urban Meyer or the o-line issues as if they weren’t the same people saying since he was in high school that he’s the easiest first-ballot hall of famer. His hype was beyond this universe to the point where he had zero excuse to not be the definitive best QB in the league by now.
Leading the league in turnovers has held him back from being elite and being out of the Elway, Manning, Luck convo.
He seriously needs to clean that up in year 4, because it has cost the team multiple games.
Hmmm does that include fumbles? Because I went checked interceptions and he was ranked 6th with 14 interceptions.
Mahomes, Allen, Tua, Hurts and Howell had more interceptions than Lawrence.
I guess I would disagree then
Yes. Fumbles are included. Since joining the league in ‘21, he currently has the most lost fumbles with 14.
A lot of those are in the red zone as well, which makes it extra frustrating. Because he can definitely move the ball down the field, but it’s hard for him to finish for some reason.
If he can reduce his turnovers significantly, he will be a force to be reckoned with.
The biggest problem for me, talking about Elway was he played on a team in a conference, that if you removed the Raiders, the conference flat out sucked. You go through the Super Bowls from 84-97, the only question was "At what point in the first half will the game be over?" (exceptions being the Bills 91 and Bengals 89). The NFC Championship game was referred to as the 'Real Super Bowl'. Elway got smoked during his first couple of years. A lasting memory in the minds of all Raider fans from early on was, the Raiders had knocked around Elway so much that when he came out of the huddle in the 2nd half, the defense got in position and then stood up pointing and laughing because Elway had lined up behind a guard. He benefited early on from being in a garbage conference, with mostly 2nd rate qbs, or good qbs on lesser teams (Marino in Miami losing 38-16 to SF as an example). Lawrence is in a conference with several very solid qbs, and the NFC has some as well. He's just not as successful; Jacksonville is not as good an all-around team as KC, Baltimore, Cincinnati, probably Buffalo. Miami is on a positive trajectory, and Houston may have the next greatest qb in football (we'll see as time goes on). So, at best, Jacksonville may be the 9th best team in a strong conference (previous 6 plus Pittsburgh, Cleveland, maybe even San Diego with their new coach). And the NFC has at least six teams, probably more, that are better than Jacksonville as a team (SF, Dallas, Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Philadelphia, Detroit). Is Jax a better team than Seattle, NO, or Indy? -- all were 9-8 last year as well.
Hmm good points. I do agree Elway wasn't "that guy" for the first few years, thats for sure
I think he can be a pretty good quarterback but not at the level of a John Elway or a Peyton manning
I like to see him have a #1 WR and see what he can do with that.
He’s a good QB, but hasn’t lived up to all the hype. To be fair, the Jaguars aren’t exactly the best managed franchise in the NFL. Having Urban Meyer his rookie year didn’t do him any favors either. That much said, Lawrence is still young and on the upturn of his career.
Very true! I think he really needs that true No.1 Wide Receiver
lol Trevor bein generational is a stretch. Dude played on a stacked college team. I look at him like OSU QB’s. With all that talent it’s hard not to look good
@@easyyeye He was looked at as a generational prospect. Whether or not he truly is or is that is debatable for sure.
It was a stacked team 100%
@@JustAnFootballGuy fair enough, they definitely did hype him to be generational talent. Valid point
Trevor has the jags as a consistently solid team. A solid team can always end up having a breakout season. His weapons haven't been great. They have been alright. Its not like he has travis kelcy and hill. I don't know what will happen, but it's not too late.
I think the Jags should trade for Higgins
You wanna talk about failure, how is Herbert flying under everyone's radar for how terrible he's been?.
Herbert has been amazing given his lack of receiving threats. Did you know Herbert was the best QB under pressure in 2023 and was amazing under pressure during his rookie year.
Trevor is putting up pedestrian numbers compared to his modern day peers. He unquestionably hasn't lived up to his hype. His highlight of the 27 point comeback was the 4 INTs (that you didnt mention), everything during the actual comeback all of the heat was on the Chargers offense.
I didn’t mention the comeback because CZcams copyrighted the footage, so I had to delete it.
I would argue 2-3 of the interceptions were NOT his fault. For sure 2, 1 tipped and the other the WR stopped the route.
@@JustAnFootballGuy1 or 2 of those interceptions was because they didn't call dpi.
It's too early too call it, Trevor doesn't have a defeated attitude, wouldn't be surprised he is a force to be reckoned with. After all we are the ones eating potato chips on the couch(alright !!!
I work and everyone works for a living I assume) But Trevor is learning and getting stronger
Lastly: It's any giving Sunday for everyone and really can't compare prior seasons because for better or worse, variables changes all the time
That’s what makes the game so interesting, it’s constantly changing and when you expect one thing, it goes the other way.
It’s easy for us to watch the game and at this or that. But there is the human element and it’s way harder than it looks.
@@JustAnFootballGuy you know it, of course if only I had the NFL Magic crystal ball, it's the spontaneous that makes it fun
you, just like most lawrence fans, have ignored major problems with his game. as a qb traditionally his fumble numbers are not tracked. And lawrence has a ton of fumbles, many of them lost. Add that to his INT numbers and you have a major whole in the game. The whole reason why that chargers game was a ridiculous comeback was setup by lawrence. 2 INTs in 2 plays to start that damn game, at home
2-3 interceptions were not even his fault. i encourage you to go look at the film to the game. NFL + is a great way to do so
@@JustAnFootballGuy and the fumbles? the problem is he is not learning from the turnovers in general. and the afc south is definitely not getting weaker. I genuinely believe he is not a generational talent, nor worth the money he just got
I think if Jacksonville would get some good (moreso consistent) O line help and a true #1 receiver, he would be much better just by virtue of having better help. Him being injured constantly from being beat down from the lack of a line made him throw out much faster, rushing poor passes instead of holding it a half second longer for a better look
Great point man. I totally agree. I think they should trade for Higgins next season, at least someone.
The o line has gotten worse each year he has started too which is interesting
@@JustAnFootballGuy honestly, I was hoping they traded up for Quentin Johnson last year. I think the same atill
Calvin Ridley is a WR1, they just misused him. Playing him at X severely limited his upside, and he still put up over a thousand yards. Still, this is no excuse. If what he needed was a true #1 in order to breakout, he had one and failed.
Wr1 play the x so he is a number 2
@@juniorhernandez2763 that’s reductive as it gets; by that logic Tyreek Hill, Justin Jefferson, and Davante Adams are not true WR1s and are instead predominantly WR2s. Goofy.
@@coravoyx or being absent from the game for over a year affected him
@@ernestogastelum9123 it doesn’t take a football genius to see that he’s never been particularly skilled at beating the press. It would be like Tyreek being asked to do the same over and over. There were serious misusage issues with him-all you have to do is watch the tape for countless examples.
I disagree, I like Ridley, he is an elite route runner.but he is no WR 1
Trevor isn't to fault. He's a good QB. Its the Jaguars organization that is to blame. Terrible ownership terrible coaching (before doug Peterson) and bad drafting (before Trevor) so its not Trevor's fault. He's a good QB on a bad franchise team.
@@80sCartoonsGuy I defended him at the end of the video!
The music at like 7:10 is so loud
Yeah i didn't mix the music well for the video. Next video will be better
By the way, Elway was not actually drafted by the Broncos first overall. He was ALSO drafted by the Colts, but quickly traded to Denver when Elway refused to play for them.
Yeahhh I know, I totally forgot about it but I was too late when I realized he was traded to broncos.
Thanks for saying that kindly… another guy said I’m a fake news spreader, amateur and not a football guy.
The videos I make aren’t perfect, it’s a one man show, I work 45 hours a week, go to school and then come home to work on this.
Elway, Manning, Luck, Lawrence, and now Nix.
I love Bo Nix but I don’t think he is a generational prospect by any means
@@JustAnFootballGuy you right. As an unbiased broncos fan, not generational prospect. But more like a better Mahomes where the generational talent will come through after his first season
He really needs to stop fumbling
@@Muffins2117 Definitely that for sure.
I'll be a generational failure for that contract
Also he's on the Jags lol. That's like being on my Panthers we're destined to fuck any good player we get up
But you can use the exact same logic for Daniel Jones who WASN'T a generational QB and has never had ANY help on offense🤔
@@BIGGIANTSGUY Exactly why I’m making a video on him soon😏
@@JustAnFootballGuyhe was never generational plus he has always had bad wrs
Dude your editing is great and your scripting is fine but i think you’d really excel with some diction and enunciation practice. You go from well spoken to really difficult to understand and back and forth. Keep up the good work, hope this was helpful and not hurtful.
Thanks man I appreciate the love. And the constructive criticism!
Never realized what kind shitty receiving core he's had around him. Maybe Davis and Thomas will be able to stretch the field and allow Kirk to have around 100 catches. The problem is that Kirk is not dynamic enough as the #1 dude.
W vid
Appreciate that bro👍
Let’s be honest about Manning he’s a generational stat merchant. Regular season he’s going to get his number but not when it really counts in the playoffs
Hears the thing, Jacksonville has a long way to go be a contender. He's a good but the team needs more.
@@andrewshear2927 I feel if they can re work their o line and add an X receiver they could be contenders
Caleb Williams is also generational.
@@commonsense1443 I think he is an elite talent but not a true generational QB prospect.
You’re trying to hard. Lawrence is ok. That’s it.
Trying too hard? Thanks for watching
We have a very different recollection of Elway. Terrell Davis was good enough that his 4 great years got both TD and Elway into the HoF. Elway benefitted from having a soft division for nearly his entire career, and yet Elway only won the division 3 times in the 90s. His performance in the 80s was better, but the division was even worse then, save for the Raiders during his first two years. Elway was great in playoffs as long as he was playing against the Browns. -- Talking about Luck as "starting the fire only to put it out" sounds exactly like Trevor's playoff game against the Chargers.
Tbf, Last season, Lawrence had a WR that could’ve put a number 1 WR numbers, if the Jags actually utilised Calvin Ridley effectively.
I guess I just disagree. I don’t see Ridley as a WR 1, he is an upside WR 2, elite route running but never was “that guy” for the falcons or jags.
I guess it depends on what you think of Ridley
@@JustAnFootballGuy I agree, he’s an elite number 2, but I do think that Ridley can put 1300/1400 yards if used correctly. Those numbers are WR1 numbers, even if he’s actually not in the upper echelon of WRs in the league.
Oh of _course_ it's the fault of *your* play-callers when it's _your_ QB who suffers for their terrible play-calling. Of _course_ it is. Meanwhile, on a team you *don't permit* excuses for Justin Fields called out his own play-callers publicly, who then panicked & switched up the play-calling, which allowed him to lead the pre-D.J. Moore _Bears_ to lead the league in offense for 3 straight weeks proving it was *only* the play-calling holding him back.
Know what happened after that?
His HC returned to the previous play-sets halving the offensive production *_further_** proving* that His Play-Calling Was The Problem.
Seen _any_ videos pointing this out? Right, only ones blaming fields for things caused *by* the play-calling. Well, you're one of the people accepting all social media memes about all other QBs, no? So wtf is _your_ whining about now?
You mean the guy who dropped 3 TDs 😂 right in his 👐
He had Urban Meyer as his first head coach
He was doomed from the start
That’s for sure. He definitely got screwed with his development
Going on 4 seasons, I'm sure many teams would take him .
Well seems like the Jags are wanting him
He got paid don’t see any failure
Generational failure? That sounds pretty dang harsh.
Right. I don't know why people think he is
Bruh he went to the got dang jaguars
@@markclark8444 I defended him later in the video!
Lawrence isn't a Bust he's just not quite as good as we'd hoped he'd be,..
He's a 12th overall-ish Qb who was supposed to be a perennial Top 5 qb~
Fair enough. But let’s surround him with an elite receiver and decent o line before we nail the coffin on him
@@JustAnFootballGuy No ONE was a bigger fan of him going #1 overall than I was,.
I just thought he would be a bit better than he has been ,..and yeah more weapons ALWAYS help~
To be honest a franchise qb that puts up good numbers and can win you a few games you shouldn’t win here and there is about all you can ask from a top draft pick. I think everybody expects new guys to come in and light up the NFL like Mahomes, Lamar, or Allen, but that’s just unrealistic. By all metrics of first round qbs he has been a success, he’s just not gonna carry the whole team and will need better talent around him. I also don’t know how much I trust Doug Peterson. If you look at his couching record it’s not amazing. The only outlier is really that Philadelphia Super Bowl. Not saying he’s not a good coach, but I don’t think he’s as proven as people believe and I could see him getting the boot if Jacksonville doesn’t make the playoffs this season or next.
That’s a great point! That’s the most realistic expectation you can have. And I agree I am unsure about Peterson.
Hes up against a lot of good qbs in the afc on a bad team when it comes to building a good team.
Most people don't talk about the fact that QB success is dependent upon their organization. The Jaguars, under Amir Khan, have been a poorly-run franchise. The man hired the worst coach in NFL history and has seemed mostly concerned with moving his team to London.
The Jags only have 2 more years to win a Super Bowl with Lawrence on a rookie contract. After that, it will become harder as he will command a higher salary - especially if the Jags make a run with Lawrence. I think T-Law must move to a different, better-run franchise in order to reach his potential.
Lawrence signed a 275 million dollar deal within the last few weeks.
But I agree with your points.
@@JustAnFootballGuy lol well, good luck Jags!
It doesn't help when you play in a conference with Patrick Mahomes,Josh Allen,Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson and C.J Stroud.
A lot of bias, and high expectation with anyone in the AFC.