The Many Faces of Wingsung 630 Fountain Pen---Comparative Review

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2023
  • Here, I take a look at the gold, steel, and Frankenstein nibs on the Wingsung 630, which seems like a very convincing clone of the Montblanc 149. I give you my thoughts on the writing experience, and provide writing samples. Nothing scientific about it, just my impressions. I welcome any questions/discussions.
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Komentáře • 38

  • @miheervaidya
    @miheervaidya Před 2 dny +1

    17:08 extensive comparison and alternative recommendations! Thank you Dr. Shak for the prescription!

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před dnem

      My pleasure! Thank you for watching.

  • @kevinblack8365
    @kevinblack8365 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Most other reviews I have seen suggest the Wing Sung 630 Steel nib version is, to quote, "a gusher". They suggest very wet and very smooth so there must be some variation in steel nibs. Again other reviewers rate the 630 with the steel nib in their top two FPs of 2023, I do see other comments rate the 630 as dry? WRT nib size, there is only one size steel nib as far as I can see on AliX and elsewhere and it is 0.5mm (although some say it is 0.5mm-0.7mm, so hedging their bets). I think it is well worth taking a chance on it, for both the form factor and build quality (based on several reviews).

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 6 měsíci +4

      I have done some adjusting the nib, and it writes just fine. But for what it is copying , it is a miserable fail....(comparatively). For example, the 699 as an imitation of 823 is a much closer imitation. The three 630s that I have [including gold heartbeat nib] are not on my top 20 pens [that include moonman A1]. But other pen friends are right at their own right. Maybe also, I was just unlikely. I ordered the 600 18k gold pen. Time will tell. Thanks for the elaborate comment. Happy new year.

  • @animula6908
    @animula6908 Před 11 měsíci +5

    I wonder if anyone at wing sung ever stopped to consider what that rhythm would do to the patient.

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Haha....true that.

  • @kattz753
    @kattz753 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I'm disappointed. You aren't the first reviewer who hasn't liked the 630. I already have the Jinhao 9019 and X159. There were some problems with the X159 at first. I just got mine about 2 months ago and I got a good one. Chrisrap59 noted that the nib units were changed at some point. Maybe that was the problem. Although it is a different style, one of my favorite pens right now is the Jinhao 80 with one of the generic Naginata or "long knife" nibs available on Ali Express. It just has an M stamped on it. I put Pilot Taki Sumi in it and it seems to be the perfect combination.

    • @kevinblack8365
      @kevinblack8365 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Same here. I ordered a X159 and got a X159 (after a dispute with AliX and Paypal both in my favour, they wanted me to ship a $15 FP back at a cost of $25 to get a $15 refund). Well, anyway, turns out the nib I have in the X159 is the wettest and broadest of all of my nibs, go figure. It is an excellent writer with either Iroshizuku take-sumi or Pilot Namiki ink first time, every time and never misses a beat. On topic, I'm about to buy a Wing Sung 630.

  • @drawinsscribblins5326
    @drawinsscribblins5326 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I love your sense of humor!!

    • @user-wj9ri2vy7k
      @user-wj9ri2vy7k Před 5 měsíci

      Sad to hear that-thanks a lot anyway
      Any other pen you think this nib will work with?

  • @mrmf4712
    @mrmf4712 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the info. This was very useful. I have two questions.... Every writing sample in this and in other vids you do "line variation" demo by drawing 8888, while at the same time in the actual writing samples its not visible and watching how nib works on the paper, there is also no effort is being put to achieve any line variation... So the question is why that figure 8 is there? Another question is much easier - I could not hear what was the model name of that red Jinhao which writes better than all other alternatives? Thanks.

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks. The figures of 8 allow me to demonstrate the maximum flex capacity of the nib without putting uneven pressure on one fine vs. The other.. this is overall a general indican of how bouncy a nib is. In reality, that flexibility allows fire thick expressive descender tails of y, g, f, etc.
      Jinhao was 9019 :)

  • @omeryehezkely3096
    @omeryehezkely3096 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I just received my 3rd 630 today and to my surprise it is not scratchy as the other two. It's a decent writer, but not as good as the Jinhao 9019.
    Regarding the MB 149 nibs - do you have any recomendation where I can get one other than ebay?

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 11 měsíci +1

      If you go to pen shows, you may find it. I found a few through a good friend of mine from DC pen show.

  • @Plhmel561
    @Plhmel561 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great review! I have a Wing Sung 630 and a 629. My 630 is dry, but not too bad. The 629 is a better writer. It is smoother and it has been reliable. I agree that the 699 is a great writer. I have two of those.

    • @johnrdoe108
      @johnrdoe108 Před 5 měsíci

      Try a different ink or drop water in your in waterman ink is wet

  • @peterdandyk2342
    @peterdandyk2342 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I completely agree with you on NOT choosing the Bock nib. I purchased a bock because at the time it was the same price as the Asvine nib. It is most disappointing. I also have the Asvine P36 with the Asvine nib & it is excellent. Save your money because Asvine nibs are excellent.

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 3 měsíci +1

      That is true. Some of the Bock nibs [1/3 for me] have worked great....but that's a bad ratio. Asvine nibems are better.
      I find Hongdian nibs the best.

  • @user-mo2gv1ct3m
    @user-mo2gv1ct3m Před 10 měsíci +1

    Very interesting to know the super flex nib of Wingsung 360! What's the product name of skeleton fountain pen with red ink filled around @17:38 ?

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thanks! That is Majohn C4. Very very nice pen. 👌

    • @user-mo2gv1ct3m
      @user-mo2gv1ct3m Před 10 měsíci

      @@Shak-MD Many thanks for your helpful advice! Appreciated!

  • @ShahriarFarkhan
    @ShahriarFarkhan Před 6 měsíci +1

    I appreciate the review and input on how the 14k nib performed. I have one question, why not leave the vintage MB nib in the vintage MB? :)

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Awesome question. I have had several unwise purchases of Lemon 149s from eBay. I have kept them for parts....hence the extra nibs 😀.

    • @ShahriarFarkhan
      @ShahriarFarkhan Před 6 měsíci

      @@Shak-MD Oh no, I'm sorry about that. Those nibs are worth getting back into service!

  • @user-wj9ri2vy7k
    @user-wj9ri2vy7k Před 5 měsíci +1

    Dear Doctor,
    First of all I really want to thank you for your teaching an entartaining videos,I really enjoy them and you light up corners that no other reviewer
    shed light on. About the 630 model specifically your "Frankenpen" gave me an idea and I would like to consult you- I have a loose sailor kop nib with no feeder and for a long I am looking for a competiable pen to host it. Do you think that the WS630 nib and feed unit will accomdate it properly? (so the pen will work and the nib will not suffer any demage)
    Thanks alot in advance and keep on the good work
    eagerly waiting for your response

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I tried my kop nib in p630. Didn't fit al all, unfortunately.

    • @user-wj9ri2vy7k
      @user-wj9ri2vy7k Před 5 měsíci

      Thank you for answer.sad to hear that -do you know of any pen (preferably a piston filler) on which I can install the loose kop nib? Thanks agoam

  • @jambisc1
    @jambisc1 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Another great video - thank you! The detail is brilliant. After tuning the nib and heat setting the feed, my 630 steel nib is writing well. However, it is still not as good as the 9019 straight out of the box. I’m trying to find a nib Meister in the UK to sort out my 14k 630. I also have the Majohn A1, but swapped the nib unit for a VP broad and it is great - stock EF is too fine a line for me. Looking forward to the next video.

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 11 měsíci

      That is very kind of you, thanks! I am thinking of the next video---- It will be Majohn A1 vs. VP, or should it be the Pelikan M1005 demonstrator review....That is the question :) :) Cheers.

  • @mavleashutosh
    @mavleashutosh Před 6 měsíci

    Nice review. Have you tried their JF nibs ? How do they perform ?

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 6 měsíci

      I think that is the one on my cover photo for this video. I have tried it. It was a big flop. I had to do alot of work on it. It is okay now, but for around the same price, I'd go with the Hongdian Qin dynasty for a better nib, if I wanted a Chinese gold nib.

  • @ryansullivan3081
    @ryansullivan3081 Před 11 měsíci +1

    It must be the really fine nib size, because my medium SS nib writes like a broad to double broad.

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 11 měsíci

      Indeed, this is the fine nib, which is advertised as 0.5 mm: Blue ⋅ K: Heartbeat-F Nib/0.5mm.

  • @eileengoldenberg270
    @eileengoldenberg270 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I doubt if it was coincidence..

  • @karlgozo
    @karlgozo Před 11 měsíci +1

    Looks nice... Unfortunately there are better cheaper pens

    • @Shak-MD
      @Shak-MD  Před 11 měsíci

      Absoluetly, as I agreed with you :)

    • @viv_2489
      @viv_2489 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Build quality matters if compared to Jinhao 9019, X159