FNC PULLS OUT THE ULTRA RARE LANE SWAP VARIATION | FNC vs TES | IWD MSI 2024
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While I think that no one except doubleshit is surprised about the outcome, I think we can all be pretty happy with how this series played out (from a "I want to watch good league of legends" standpoint). This was a fun and competitive series. Humanoid, Jun, and Oscar played really well! Good series.
The outcome is surprising because it wasn't a 2-0 ngl
Yeah, the problem is, i view fnc as a team that can take games of everyone when they really want to, but i can just as easily see them lose to loud ngl xdd
@@drkrn fair point
@@nepchan2086 you're correct; just because they took a game off TES doesn't mean they won't randomly decide to sprint it vs LLL. If Humanoid and Oscar decide to int, then Loud could absolutely take their head off, especially since neither team is good at Macro per se
@@nepchan2086 Well tbh they are still improving each split . If for summer they can be more consistent they might upset someone at worlds u never know
It's unfortunate that Noah did not have a good series because basically everyone else in FNC was playing really well.
Oscarinin, Jun and Humanoid in game 2 were insane.
What about humaniod game 3?
They took turns inting. Let's not call out a specific player Noah had his moments same for Jun, Razork, Oscarinn and Humanoid. Game 1 Jun was not good, but game 2 he carried hard imho. Humanoid had a great game 1 and game 2 but got dominated and inted his ass off in game 3. Oscarinn was good in game 2 but in game 1 he was invisible and game 3 ughhh what a tragedy. Noah was bad all 3 games sure BUT that was expected, I will still put the blame on Razork though WHY did he troll that jungle fight and why didnt he focus on ganking bot? Just 3~4 men dive bot bro stop trying to gank mid it doesnt do anything, although Creme kinda sent it numerous times but mid in this meta is... not really the most important role imho.
@@keyki9832 What was he supposed to do with 2 hard losing sides lol xD game was lost in draft/after TES countered their lane swap
@@gaoaibai6243He was clearly the worst player today
@@gaoaibai6243 ye for sure they took turn inting, wtf is this bullshit you're cooking? he got aphelios lulu into lucian nami game one and was playing on deficit, 2nd game i understand the deficit but it doesn't excuse being 50 cs behind, 3rd game is understandable becoz the draft was dogshit. Noah was by far the worst performing player in this series.
Jun is chanelling his inner Korean
Wdym "inner" korean xd
@@epichero8747 there is a fake Korean in his team
@@nguyentri3608???
The one thing I'll say about these series: TES does not fuck around in draft. They actually prepared against Loud and Fnatic, denying the K'Sante, banning Robo champs. These mates are in the right grindset.
They need to be considering how much weaker they are than BLG, GenG and T1
Well imagine if they didn't . Tian incident again
Wow no way
The 100 Thieves variation that BDS did first, Doublelift is truly clueless about other leagues
no way!! The hidden lane swap tech!!1!
@@billyjoe8185the long lost hidden jutsu? I can’t believe it
I swear to god the West owes brother Tian ATLEAST a small contract for keeping soooo many would be stomps close, over the years. Thank you again, and always, brother Tian
Haha maybe he feels bad for 2019 Worlds finals.
G2 is 5th LPL team, Tian is every LEC's 6th player
39:55
369: I want to int
Humanoid: No.
369: and I took that personally
While I love the sack casts where banter is the topic and not the game I like seeing Dom pick up the pace for analytical commentary for the international games again!
Obviously it's not the only reason they lost but I can't help but be angry at the Humanoid tp interrupt on 369, 369 was 100% dead there if he completed the channel even his teammates gave up, that was (unless a miracle steal by Tian) 100% FNC's Baron straight after and a huge tempo swing...
Otherwise, JackeyLove put Noah in the ground
bro the game was completely lost. Also you dont usually have time to look where enemy is tping u just gotta cancel thats your first instinct.
@@mlfoons9571 ????????????? in a soloq game lets say maybe you are right, but this is not soloq brother, tp takes what, 4 seconds or whatever it is, you can definitely see and also use comms to understand that he is tping into 4 people alone and he dies. Most probably they wouldnt win off that, but its a good chance to get a baron and maybe try to turn the game around
Not as significant as you think it was
This series makes me hyped to see a G2 vs TES matchup
Yess i had exact same thought
Probably another 2-1 for TES
Noah played so atrocious this series its unreal, being down like 50 cs (!) at minute 10 to 12. Da heck!? And he has an absolute beast of a support on his side. Fnatic legit had to win a 4v5 which you just dont vs asian teams.
Remember when Thoorin said at the start of Noahs carreer, that hes a better Rekkles?
All because of high KDA with Aphelios 😅
@@Rayon811 Rekkles has role swapped to support
Low elo detected. Opinion rejected.
@@Rayon811 Noah is better than Rekkles as an ADC. Let's remember that he had to play against World champions and LPL finalists JackeyLove (IG) and Meiko (EDG). When rekkles had to play against Uzi he was anally ravaged and backshoted to oblivion. He couldn't even raise up from his chair for like 15 minutes after the fact. Facts.
@@Apnael Let me take ONE Series and say that was all Rekkles did? And you call that Facts? Kinda sad. You compare World Champions against non-World Champion so you don´t even have a point here. Rekkles played against World Champions as well and performed good.
Dom be like
Fly is same level as FNC 🤔👌🤣😂
Man tian’s sappling at 34:26 really just all but won game 3
No coming back from that
10:28 "The proper term you are looking for is lane swap" - Pickuptwice
Considering Noah was gapped so bad or is just bad? it was a really good showing from fnatic. Honestly not too bad.
GoatyLove
Good showing from fnatic tbf .
Maybe better than what G2 will end up showing.
Surprised FNC got a game tbh
DoubleDrop at home crying for sure
Bro has spoilers in his own video 😭
ULTRA RARE 😂😂😂
shame, game 2 was so promising, but like dom said fnc was too confident in their ability to get the lanes they need and that`s not the case in games like that. aaand their pick was all about CC and tanking their way into fights, aaaand again it wasn't the case vs varus/ashe after they found themselves into 2v2.
that the sad part, when they was picking into TES, no swap bullshit, they won...
I dont understand why they went away from the type of draft they did in game 2
I really think that drafts might be the issue for EU and NA, the idea that the enemy team has the same macro as you so you basically just sack the game and all in on a niche strategy. I think they should have just run back the second game comp cause that's what worked. Or learn to play Varus Ashe, cause if you're on the winning side of the match up maybe you can turn that in to more series wins by Fnc
I think It's a lack of team Identity, most teams don't even know what their strengths are, or their win cons if the western team knows how to win early they can't close the game consistently enough for it to matter, and if they know how to close they consistently bleed too much resources early for it to matter. I think It's a lack of creativity In terms of drafting for your team to have unique ways of playing the game. Because time and time again it has been proven the west can't win by playing the same game as the east, they seem to be mechanically better, they have better game macro and general game knowledge it seems the only thing I think the west might be better in right now is building items on champions. G2 seems to be the only western team with an idea on how they want to play the game and that's why they might make a small dent on MSI. So I agree drafting is one of the problems but a fairly small one in the bigger scheme of things.
@@Kurtofon Nah drafting was a big issue in fnc's loss this series. They lost game 1 because they played hard into a lane swap they couldn't rely on, and even so, humanoid LB nearly bailed them out. Game 2 they had a solid draft and no need for lane swaps, and they played for a clear win con through humanoid diffing. Despite having success in the first two games with humanoid on LB, enhanced with a relatively strong early botlane, and a strong scaling/carry toplane in game 2, they still completely changed their gameplan and picked a tank-based, 3 lane-losing teamcomp with no real long term plan beside praying to get a successful laneswap off.
@@majorscrub2856 Yeah and the reason why the draft is bad is the lack of team Identity and clear win con, again draft is a problem but not the root cause. Humanoid getting ahead especially against T1,GENG and BLG is just not a win con consistent, or even strong enough to win a game against these teams pointing out draft is like pointing to a wound in your thigh while simultaneously having a gaping hole in your chest.
Jun is Korean Korean
why no the sack?
Tian inted, Creme inted and Humanoid played very well but JKL gapped Noah so hard that in the end it didn't matter. I also think 369 was too humble here picking K'Sante twice. He could have picked something more lane dominant and gapped Oscar.
They’re strongest playing through bot and 369 knows that
@@ovs4744 true, but I guess I like the team more when he's on Aatrox or Renekton. I understand Urgot is more of a counter, but he's a beast on it too.
@@TheAverageTarnishedTheir R45 pick in game 2 was so bad. They didn’t ban LeBlac after what happened game 1 and used their R5 counterpick for Ahri which makes no sense. Humanoid would have picked LB anyways. If they R4’d Ahri and left the counterpick slot to 369, top lane would not get out of hand by mid game.
Decent showing from fnatic
Day 2 of being a 369 truther. Eating good as always
flat earther maybe
Least controversial take ever :'D
Not a good look for the NA>EU narrative
Wp Fnatic, u can win even if u are 4v5.
Europe and NA really aren't close to the Asian power houses, i dont think even peak 2019 g2 would be close to the 4 asian teams at msi
I think peak G2 would smash those teams, don't forget they are the closest team in history to winning it all and on top of that their strength was in their insane champion pool that made them impossible to read
@@Kiiiurself8482 2019 g2 is easily better than this version of TES what are you on lol. The other 3 its hard to tell, but TES is not that crazy this year
Didn't "Peak" G2 lose in 19 mins or something?
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So route>>>> noah
All Oscar's macro decisions just seem so bad. Laned well against of the goat tops though
first
TES payed for this win. FNC 3rd draft was intentional losing or beyond stupid.
Noah is so fucking bad. Get Fnatic a real AD carry.
FNC are so bad
I agree it is kinda weird that "win speed" is somehow a deciding factor for the public's perception of how "good" a team is. You do NOT get any more points from winning faster than your opponent, UNLESS it is for the accolades or some shits. If you lose you lose and that is all bout it, it doesnt matter how fast or slow you lose imho. G2 once beat TL in the fastest Bo5 in entire LoL's history BUT was TL so much worse than G2? No man tf are you on bout they splitted games in groups and at worlds too IIRC. G2 was better than TL in their prime sure BUT it isnt a galactic gap like T1 playing with the wildcards or RNG 10-0 X fodder teams back in the days. It was more like 60-40 for me and tbh right now, I would not be suprised to see TL smash the livin shit out of G2 in a week tbh, much worse than what NRG did to them at worlds. Oh and I do NOT believe NRG is a better team than G2 btw another day and it could go the other way around, just... not on that day specifically.
TL was waaaay worse than G2 what are you on about and even now G2 is definitely better but the gap isn't as big because it was astronomical in 2019
Well losing in 17 minutes kinda says something.
@@jackspinner4727 I mean t1 holds the fastest lose record but everyone seems to forget about that match when talking about fast losses, therefore shouldnt t1 be bad
@@nepchan2086 well no of course not. But in this case, because I’m not a deushe bag I can tell the fly quest quick loss probably means they are worse than t1
@@jackspinner4727 Well ofcourse they are, but it doesn't matter how fast you lose. the game was lost when they fucked up the top dive, why waste 40 minutes when it can only take 17
4 minute upload and only 230 views, iwilldominic fell off HARD 😂
T1 is far above TES. TES is overrated af.
T1 fan detected. Opinion rejected.
@@billyjoe8185 +1
You T1 fans are like Lakers fans most cringe creatures
I haven’t seen anyone rating TES above T1. Weird argument
@@Kkkkkkkkkkkkk236 Ok buddy, hold up, now u are cringe.