The Messed Up Multiverse of Tony Starks
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Comic book: Avengers Forever (2021) #10
Avengers Forever is a comic book series by Jason Aaron and Aaron Kuder.
A multiversal Masters of Evil have been travelling across realities, wrecking world after world, killing all who stand in their path. The only ones who can stop them are multiversal Avengers.
Bad versions of Ironman: *drunk and high as hell*.
Bad versions of Batman: *start plotting how to bring the multiverse in eternal darkness*.
Dark Hold Tony + Superior Ironman: Are we jokes to you!?
@@MannequinMonarch Basically, they are
@@AmardarialBro superior ironman practically started ruling the world during his run lmao
@@reddkazz1855 Seeing how easily he lost everything when Steve and S.H.I.E.L.D started hunting the Illuminati down, I would say he's definitely a joke. The Iron Patriot Tony from Contest of Champions did a much better at ruling the world than 616 Superior Tony.
There is the ai tony stark as well, he actually conquered hes entire universe
It's just wholesome to see all the Tony's coming together
Pause
@@ilovewater570 how is that a pause moment
Pause✋
@@Codename_Cryptoim coming 😆
They are coming together
The old mechanic Tony had a heart that was worth his weight in gold.
Platinum*
@@dantethefallen9630Iron*
@@sebastiansanchez3229 iron ain't worth much
@@dantethefallen9630Gold Titanium then.
@@JKgyaru6969adamantium
“It takes a clear mind to fix things. So many broken things, y’know?”
“Hey, you know my secret? To fixing broken things? It takes one to know one.”
I love that.
Still gotta say one of the worst Tony’s was Darkhold Tony.
Springtrap Iron Man
@@rockymusprimeLMAO
Oof. That one gave me the chills.
You could argue that it’s a messed up version of Ultron as well alluding to MCU Tony Stark. Suit of armor around the world…
@@davidvilla9308 Even more terrifying.
Wait. So junkyard Tony could build anything from trash & ppl thought he’s was a witch? What century were they in? 😂
1700th
florida in 2023.....
@@replsortech2012HAHAHA
@@replsortech2012more like san Francisco hahaha base on the current events
Just america in modern days.
Damn, as a fellow Tony Stark who suffered the same, this one hits hard.
👋😌 hi Tony.
@@ShovelChef hi, Tony 🦾🙌🏼
Hi, Tony
Hi tony
@@cruise_missile8387 I see you, Tony 👋
“You can’t have the avengers without a tony” DAMN RIGHT; what’s the mcu gonna do??
Have an avengers with an iron man like hero? U think Tony is the only genius?
Suck, as it has been doing for a while now.
@@SomeQuackingDuck how many avengers movies have been released since endgame?
@@shadowx8145 Iron Man and The OG 5s are always❤
Maybe they aren’t powerful as Justice League or X-men but they brought us so many memories to cherish. But keep in mind, the writers can do whatever to make a character powerful or can do whatever to destroy a character, nm even if they’re powerful in their base form.
@@shadowx8145he's talking about Tony Stark, not iron Man.
These are the kind of stories that could have saved me years ago.. Yet, at 30 years old to date.. broken and all.. this story may still save me. I guess, I'm a Tony Stark too.
We're still here.
We are Tony Stark.
Hi Tony,I guess I am also...A tony Stark.
I'm a Tony Stark too brother you are not alone
Hey Tonys. Sooo… I'm gonna say a quiet part out loud. I love the cave. I feel very weird outside of the cave. 😅
@@ShovelChef that’s a super ❤️ because there ain’t nothing wrong with that. However, it’s okay too step out of the dark every now and then. I’m sure you have plenty of talents that world still needs to see.
this went form epic, to hilarious to messed up and then extremely wholesome, quite a journey indeed specially for an Iron Man fan
Right. I was not expecting that wholesome AA meeting at the end. Which made it all the more welcome and refreshing. Especially since the old man tony died and was probably the most responsible and most sober out there.
IKR
If you think Tony Stark is the superhero with the most tragic alcohol addiction, you should meet Byron Lewis. Byron was an aviator who, with the rise and massive popularity of superheroes in the 1940s, decided to join the Minutemen and become the vigilante called Mothman, using a suit with giant wings that allowed him to glide. However, the serious accidents he suffered over the years, added to the harassment he received from the government due to his socialist ideology, led him to massively consume alcohol as a way to drown his sorrows, which caused his mind to end up so screwed up that he had to enter a psychiatric hospital, where he spent the rest of his life in almost complete solitude. The most ironic thing is that Byron, despite his decrepit physical and emotional health, was the last member of the Minutemen to die, passing away at the age of 80. Wonder what Tony would say to Byron about their alcoholism if both men met
BYRON
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Bro you litteraly just wrote a description of an entire comic book.
who????
before watchmen was so freaking good !! i didnt really like the other before watchmen but this was really had something to it i think i reread it like 3 times
@@maximfb7134
Yeah. Said project did not even remotely deserve the hatred of the fans, especially if we take into account the gigantic creative team behind it, with great authors such as Darwyn Cooke, Len Wein, or J. Michael Straczynsky in charge of writing the stories and prestigious artists like Lee Bermejo, Amanda Conner and Joe Kubert drawing. Although the Comedian and Rorschach miniseries aren't pretty good, their art is sublime. The Silk Specter, Nite Owl and Ozymandias' miniseries are quite entertaining and even improve the backround story of the characters. The Dollar Bill and Moloch specials are even quite emotional and depressing to read. And finally, "Minutemen" and "Doctor Manhattan" are masterpieces almost as good as Alan Moore's graphic novel.
I guess Tony shares Peter's multiverse of pain and misery from the writers.
That's what he gets for getting Peter involve in the civil war.
@@saldzbob9972 shots fired
@@The_Blue_OtakuSpecifically at Ultimate Peter
@@RushWheeler oof
@@saldzbob9972 Okay not ALL of them did that, come on, I'm pretty sure in some universes Civil War didn't even happen
This was exceedingly wholesome.
Maybe not the crucifixion part.
@@Zigzf I suppose so. RIP That Tony
The crucifixion did have some holes at least
So, just a little bit of theorycrafting on this...
Tony Stark is a really unlikely hero when you think about it. Things kinda have to align just right to make him become the Iron Man we all know and love.
First off, you have to have a universe where Tony Stark was put up for adoption, and then adopted by Howard Stark.
Next, he has to take control of Stark Industries, participate in a specific military tech demonstration and then either trip a booby trap or get caught in an IED attack depending on whether you go by comicverse or MCU backstories - but the important thing is that he HAS to end up with shrapnel in his cardiovascular system and he needs to have his realization that he's only fueling the military-industrial complex that perpetuates global conflicts. And of course, he then has to start tinkering in his basement and develop the iron man suit, if he stays more hands-off in regards to peacekeeping it doesn't work. And then the MCU Tony Starks all weed themselves out sacrificing themselves to reverse the Snap. You also have to find ones that don't irreversibly become Superior Iron Man, and ones that wake up from their comas.
Just from that alone, there's probably far fewer iterations of Tony Stark in the multiverse than any other Marvel character. There's a few more iterations of Iron Man than that but they're all either Infamous Iron Man/Iron Doom or something else.
aswell as one's not being poisoned by the arc reactor.
I get your point, but since the multiverse is infinite, there are infinite versions of "good" Tony Starks. No matter how much has to go right, a comparatively "small" infinity is still infinity
@@NaohMkS
That doesn't change the fact that for every X universes you have Y Iron Man Tony Starks, where Y is significantly lower than X. Simply put, it makes it a lot harder to find one than, say, a Steve Rogers Captain America.
Well there was that one Tony Stark that Victor switched bodies with, Victor ran the Stark company into the ground while Tony built himself up from the nothing that Victor put him in and eventually becomes Iron Man and rules over the country, while Victor sees Tony's success and tries to copy it before failing, Victor wants to trade back with Tony but Tony refuses, he's elevated and brought honor to the Victor name while all Victor did while he was tony was squander all the potential he had.
It was a demonstration that even when they swap places the thing that defines them in the person they are and not what they have.
@@NaohMkS That doesn't change shit. That just means they'll encounter more dud Tonys than the functioning ones and since they're on a time limit, they can't look for "all" of them.
That old man Tony Stark was such a wholesome dude, and all of the other Tony Starks meeting up for a group therapy session was such a cute moment!
Seeing other heroes as addicts helps me. I was on heroin for nearly 15 years and I can tell you that the worst withdrawals are from alcohol, methadone,and benzos. Those withdrawals can kill you if you detox without medical aid. It's heartwarming to see Tony Stark get through it every time.
Exist a single universe were tony didn't act like Erza Miller?
Iron flash
The old man tony seemed to be the nicest of the bunch tbh
@@neoterumi4772 yes a old wise Techno monk!
@@mateusfelipecardoso40kview3He’s technically the old guy who saved Tony from the terrorists, which also caused Tony to be Iron Man in the first place (Ho Yinsen I think)
People are to young to realize this maybe but the real tony stark - aka robert downey jr had a real drug addiction and prostitute problem before he found his role to be ironman, That why i found this video pretty wild relating to him in real life - in a sense that he gotten better now
Batman watching Tony Stark: "Glad to see this Stark guy also knows how to play the happy-go-lucky playboy. I hope he doesn't take long to show his true serious and professional nature once it's time to fight..."
Yah l could definitely see that
To see an old man Tony Stark that fixes cars (maybe clocks too) and quit drinking but unfortunately never had kids (or what seems), never built a suit, and he just dies is sad tho right then and there is sad bro he seems like the purest Tony Stark ever 😞😞😞
Right. I felt that. But he got to spend his days helping people and gaining control over his demons which may have been less likely to happen if he had the added pressure of ceo, father, avenger, etc
He died alone but I feel like he had the most peaceful life and a very wholesome passing.
@@LittleHatori very down to earth helpful guy. Tbh he should've atleast had a son genetically or just adopted something to keep his legacy and shop alive
a simpler life for a happy Tony
Best version of Tony Stark is Tony Stark works at repair workshop.
That, and just behind him is the MCU Tony.
The cover of this issue reminds me of that other Ironman issue called The Demon in a Bottle. I already knew Tony had struggled with Alcoholism but to see that almost every other version of himself was a drunk or crazy was a bit hard to see.
Glad they are all trying to get better
"Get in the armor Shinji"
3:45 great reference to Plato’s cave.
There should also be an infinite amount of better tony starks out there just by the sheer scale of the multiverse.
There could be a tony stark who was adopted as a baby by a young uncle Ben and raised with the knowledge that his great intellect comes with great responsibility. Your friendly neighborhood iron man.
There could be a tony stark who was lost as a child during a family trip to china and found his way to k’un-lun, being raised amongst superhuman martial artists, mastering his body and every martial art out there with his intelligence as well as being more mentally stable due to the self discipline taught there. Iron body tony stark.
The could be a tony stark who happened to be kidnapped by aliens as a child only to manage to escape on xandar, living there on the streets for a few years, struggling through the hardships of homelessness in an unfamiliar environment but benefiting from access to advanced technology and sciences, slowly building his first suit of armor over the years and using it as a bargaining chip to enter one of Xander’s institutes of technology as a student. Star lord tony stark, chief science officer of the nova empire.
There could be millions of tony starks like these just because of the sheer scale of the multiverse but we’re always shown worst case scenario’s, exemples of mediocrity and even senseless turns to evil.
I feel like comics books have lost some of their wild unrestrained originality in exchange for bleak realism with a sprinkle of optimism and wholesomeness from time to time.
I feel like there is truths to your words. The theme of this comic is helping messed up ones.
You sir need to be a writer for marvel what if…
Most comics writers dont actually like the concept of tony stark, they like the concept of a billionare playboy with advanced technology. I think the sheer ammount of bad tonys also reflects poorly in who tony is, I started reading the iron man comic runs and ive come to realize that the "tony in the comics is evil and not like mcu tony who is still not all great" shit stark haters love to spew is just flat out wrong and its likely influenced by cynical writers who dont understand stark. Stark is intended to be a playboy at the start but he is shown post having the iron man persona that he actually does care lots having realised the weight of what hes done and the people around him. People love to pretend that he never changed when cjange is all his character is about, they see that he still has a similar personaloty or they read the evil versions of tony and assume hes like that, when his ideology is pretty great.
God this whole video made me cry in the end such a great message and way of telling and showing us all these Tony's and their problems. I need to catch up on this story. Great work man!!
Such a cool and well-thought-out channel! The voices, the pacing, the music, the editing; all superbly done. It's really awesome how you connected all the other stories we had seen on here including the hulk, Thor, and Captain America. The only thing about this channel is I wish there could be a hundred videos that were dished out a day, because I never get enough! Quality over quantity though.
Tony is always drunk. It's his weakness. :( But to think that Tony Stark would choose to be Ant-Man instead of himself. That's something entirely new. All I can say is that there is a thin line between genius and madness and that's a good representation of Tony. This was sad and positive in the same breath.
I suppose they didn't have the chance to visit the Tony who merged with his suit and lost his mind, on his way to turn humanity (Pepper included) into mechanical zombies.
I think they probably wouldn’t have wanted to, because he’s absolutely crazy. Too far gone
Not every writer hates Tony Stark. Sometimes, they actually try to portray him as a decent human being.
@@insanusmaximus2857 are you in the right comment thread buddy?
I was not expecting a bunch of your previous videos to actually tie together
tony stark the man who can make everything but can't fix himself that why i love him
Incredible editing & narration,underrated channel
Love the use of the AI/TTS bots
I still would have prefered to see hank pym himself but since they are both genius with issues it kinda fits to see a tony in his mantle...being antman aint about how big or small you are, its about doing everything you can that is good even if its little thing, it counts. Even if none sees you doing it it still counts.
Well Stark did create Ultron in the MCU which was Pym’s invention.
@@martingabriela.libunao7172
Personally I would have preferred if tony discovered an old shield project made by Hank in the past that he tried to erase cuz it was too risky and dangerous but shield made a copy......this would have introduced Pym character and also gave him a justification for his hatred for stark at the end of age of Ultron.
@@ozmasterofmasks5838 good idea, however, based on what i remember, Pym’s hate more directed towards Howard than it was towards Tony.
@@martingabriela.libunao7172
Yeah but it was never explained properly, if Howard and shield savaged the Ultron project then it could have been passed to tony later....knowing Howard went behind his back and his son created a monster Hank tried to destroy would have made his hatred reasonable
@@ozmasterofmasks5838 oh, that works too.
I can’t help but feel bad for Tony Stark #2. He was never given a chance, and was brutally killed. And, I bet that if he were alive, he would’ve been the Stark that would’ve been chosen.
Same whit the old one
@@lolbitandftfoxysayhello6262 Agreed.
Not gonna lie, that last sentence in the end of the video goes hard asf "because it helps to be broken yourself when it comes to fixing broken things". It reminds me of when I broke both my ankles and rolling around in a wheelchair for almost a year, stuck in depression, started drinking alot, then I rebuilt my broken self , starting working out, doing physiotherapy, & eating healthy. Now I'm up and walking again ,working, "fixing" houses.
This comic made me cry, this is why Tony Stark is my favourite hero and comic book character, he has been such an inspiration while growing up for me.
Sometimes in life… it’s best to simply put down the bottle and reflect. For the people who matter to us. Clarity is rough, the journey a terrain and the only comfort is that your away from it mentally. Been recovering for nearly four years now and I’m forever grateful for the those that eased my journey through that hell.
Love the way you edited this. The voice and everything. Keep it up. I remember I had to help my friend through detox. She was doing really well. But she fell off the wagon, and just when I got back, she was gone. I never touch the stuff, but sometimes I think if I was more broken, maybe I could have understood more, and we might have saved her? But we tried our best. That's all you can do.
Damn, I’m sorry.
This fits RDJ. Just some washed up depressed and disappointing guy but turned his life around and changed himself for the better. Along with thousands other Tonys
I cant believe there was one tony who wasnt a drunk and who was wholesome. and the first tony stark is just iron man but his drunkenness is at an all time high, making him die
1:12 who is the cyborg lookin dude
Deathlok. His name is literally mentioned several times in the video lol.
I guess demon in a bottle really was THAT important for Tony
Dr Doom gets a Council of Doom, Tony Stark gets a Support Group. Not sure which one is scarier.
The ultimate Tony Stark isn't found, he is built.
Tony Stark List:
#1: Demon in a Bottle Stark (Stark did not quite or fix his alcohol addiction
#2: Junkyard Stark (Burned at stake)
#3: Galactus Stark
#4: Crazy Stark (“Stuck” in a Cave constantly building suits)
#5: Old man Stark (The fixer, and humble.)
"Yo bro, Tony. Nice to meet ya. The name's Tony, and this is my fellow, Tony. Say "hi" Tony!"
-Tony
How did they convince the planet eating mecha-Tony to join this therapy session?
He was probably one of the last to join, and only did after seeing what 818 managed to accomplish by gathering all these tony starts and fixing them. Basically a sight so miraculously he couldn’t say no.
I like to think every month or so Tony starks meet up for a multiversal aa meeting
Nice.
I think a fitting Tony would be the one that Doctor Doom changed brains with
Yeah that one is definitely a more stable version of stark, but they really don’t identify as tony stark at all. Their mind may have originally been that of stark, they have entirely assumed the identity of victor von doom, and wants to stay that way as in his universe, starks reputation is dog water
No one’s talking about how one of the Steve Rogers’s looked like Jeffery Dahmer
TONY GROUP THERAPY THATS SO BEAUTIFUL
The last line there cant be avengers without tony is true and hard as fuck
I love how comic/scifi geniuses always have the wildest group gatherings.
Sometimes a story can really help a guy out.
5:11 Sad how the only happy Tony is dying and never had or did anything meaningful in his life
They should've gotten "Stark Odinson" aka Iron Hammer, literally one of the most OP Iron Man variants ever, period
If they wanted a GOOD tohy stark, they should have gotten the one from Ironman armored adventures
But the story is still nice
We don’t know if that universe exists in the actual multiverse even then we don’t know the universe considering it never got a number
@@levievil9220 then how do you explain Earth 904913
@@levievil9220Earth-904913
This one actually hits on a real life level.
1:52 well he’s dead.
1:55 oh my gosh he’s actually dead!
WOW I really liked the way you presented the story, with visual effects, soundtrack, voice. Quality work.
All of these random stories coming together, i didn't expect it and I love it
All Tony in the multiverse, need to get together and have an AAA meeting. That is brilliant!
Omg this is so wholesome and amazing...
This is the first time I've seen something like this done with voice acting. Very good.
I'm not crying, you're crying, shut up.
*Sniff*😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
dude, i like the voice acting and narrator, the story format, really got into it and I was like watching movies!
That went from funny to wholesome really quickly
So, They Found The Tony Stark, They Needed.
The multiverse of tony is nothing more but a giant therapy group
That last line was genius
i just love the larger than a planet tony fitting in the ending
Multiverse of Reed Richards counsil of smart people
Multiverse of spider people group of multiverse protectors and vampire butt kickers
Multiverse of tony stark therapy group
I mean isn't Tony dead in the 616 universe and its a clone currently running around? Or die they retcon that? This was after extremis and superior iron man if I'm not mistaken.
Nah it's currently the seventh 616 irriteration. And Tony is alive as Superior Iron Man.
@@TheMcgrath123sn't current 616 Tony wearing a crappy vintage suit? The Model 70?
@@JKgyaru6969 you tripping if you think that suit is crappy
@Elijapy first thing happened is that he almost lost by absorbing man, then that time he broke his bones with it and gotten his ass beat by Korvac. Don't get me wrong, 70 has current up-to-date Stark tech, but it feels like a forced downgrade compared to Extremis or Bleeding Edge.
@@JKgyaru6969 you’re lowballing the absorbing man, he absorbed the same metal Tony’s suit was made out of, Thor would struggle too if the absorbing man touched his hammer (which he has done and even killed Thor). Second, he broke his bones because he PUNCTURED a sphere made of VIBRANIUM AND ADAMANTIUM, something his other suits haven't done before. And Korvac? It's Korvac he wiped out the entire Avengers roster in the ’80s. Even then, when they fought again later on Tony pieced him. And you’re only taking stuff from Christopher Cantwell’s run, one of Iron Man’s worst runs due to how much of a mess it is with characters, and a run the poorly utilizes the model 70.
If you really want to see this armour’s potential being put to good use go read the Iron Man Annual 2021, The current run of Iron Man, or just any other writer other than Cantwell, since he likes to write Iron Man as if he were a man baby. The Model 70 can literally take on dozens of upgraded sentinels while a whole group of experienced mutants can’t even take down one.
Model 70 has the same properties as the extremis, maybe even more, the only difference is the extremis virus Tony had to use to operate it, without it, Tony struggled to use the suit. There’s a reason why the Model 70 has been Tony’s longest-used suit since the ’90s.
The bleeding edge is the only exception, but even then Tony has moved to an arguably less advanced suit (model 42).
If you really want to see this armour whoop someone Iron Man #4 (2022) is a good issue.
Not to be a buzzkill, but all the Tony Starks are going to have to fight in a war for the Multiverse, and my guess is that some them won’t survive the whole ordeal. All those lasting relationships they made to create a strong brotherhood, will only end in tragedy from the lost of their comrades.
Some will die.
But better die with brothers who help fix you then die alone with tears of regret and disappointment at yourself.
This was really wholesome
Marvel writers: “ which man can we fk up more? Iron or spider? “
Spider has gone through much MUCH worse
@@PeytonianYTPaul. To name the least
2:30 why he blurred?
I'm not crying. You're crying!
I got kinda emotional towards the ending when the older bearded tony present himself "Hi,im- I'm Tony Stark" HI TONY 💙
Drunk Tony Stark seemed like the version of him that couldn't mentally handle all the guilt of knowing that his technology ended up being used as weapons to kill in war. That he ended up a weapon manufacturer.
This hit me harder than I would have thought. Thank you, OP.
a whole bunch of Tony starks in one movie would be mind blowing XD
I expected something more serious and sad, but the funny undertones really makes it feel like an iron man story
Honestly Ant-Man Tony is by far my favorite
And our Tony... 😔
i hate that the only thing people can write for stark now is how he's a sad drunk who needs to be fixed.
Some multiverse stories are just hitting the right spots
wow this story hit me on the feels this was batter then any spider-man comic .
also i love the message in the end + the mess up dark rick & morty jokes .
Old Tony Stark is the most wholesome thing in Marvel.
Man i did not know MCU tony stark was the best Tony Stark there was
Now, THAT, brings a smile to my face.
The old man stark is such a good guy 😊
I can't believe a iron man support group brought a tear to my eye.
"it takes one to know one"
Dang
One of my favorite Tony Stark stories
“You can’t have an Avengers without a Tony.” Someone say that louder for the MCU writers because it just hasn’t been the same since Endgame 😢
Everybody gangster until Galactus Stark gets murked
I love this video so much you earned a subscriber
this was mad wholesome
So Meaningful. “You can have my heart…if you don’t mind a few Broken Things.”
I came for entertainment and left with a life lesson. I need this comic fr it has such a great and deep message