Why Luka LOVES Watching EuroLeague Over NBA
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- čas přidán 12. 01. 2023
- Luka Doncic publicly admitted he watches more Euroleague than the NBA. Apart from playing there before transferring to Dallas, why does the Mavericks’ star find this competition more interesting?
BasketNews’ Augustas Suliauskas tries to explain the advantages the EuroLeague has over the regular season of the NBA.
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You should have shown the current standings, that would show the intensity pretty well.
Perhaps you forgot to say that Luka is a Red Star fan :)
So that may be in part why...
Euroleague.
i watch EuroLeague throughout the year. and NBA only in play offs. i live in Europe. and NBA games are expensive on TV here.
If you compare the number of games played in the two leagues during a season, you should also remember that the European teams have also the home leagues games to play.
If you start marketing Euroleague better you'll just end up with another NBA. Because marketing people are gonna start to push for more points per game more action more highlights - hence no handcheking etc.
They'll say we need more star power to get better endorsement deals so starting players need more minutes and traveling doesn't count for them.
They'll say we need more commercial breaks and more playtime AND more games to have more time to show ads and get better sponsorship deals.
You can see were I'm going with this. As stupid as it sounds i think Euroleague is as great as it is because it's a niche product for hardcore basketball fans.
Number 1 sport in Europe is and always will be football, but some football clubs throw a few bones to their basketball teams probably as tax write off, or just because it's a laughingly small sum for them to get some prestige. And that saves European basketball from becoming something like handball which is almost semi-pro sport.
And it's great. Audience gets an awesome niche product that has maximum sportsmanship with great talent because it gets basically subsidiesed. But try to make it mainstream and it will become a league with worst aspects of NBA with less money less talent and still won't be able to compete with football for really big money deals.
Maybe i'm stupid but I think NBA is as big as it is because it's not a sport it's a business, it's a show, it's entertainment. Euroleague is still a sport. You throw enough money at a sport and it stops being a sport it becomes a business. I like watching sports.
You are right 1000%. And you are not stupid! You hit the point.
Great opservation dudeee
What a beautiful read. Thank you for every single word of it. Hope to see you at a game, bro. Euroleague is the best.
Some good points about marketing dangers but also some dumb ones.
"but some football clubs throw a few bones to their basketball teams probably as tax write off, or just because it's a laughingly small sum for them to get some prestige." That one is dumb. You are confusing sports clubs and football clubs. Sports clubs have an array of sports under their umbrella: foot, basket, track, ice hockey, track, chess, judo and other sports. Its not 'throwing' a few bones but how they were constituted. The justification why they do it is just as bad.
Basketball isnt succeeding in europe because of the generosity of a handful of football teams. Thats simply childish reasoning and shows a poor understanding of both sports,.
As for handball, you have to be quite cunty and living in your own bubble to think that any sport that isnt football is semi pro. There are handball, volleyball, waterpolo, ice hockey, rubgy and other sports where players get paid for playing sports. Thats like saying european basketball is semi pro because the players only make a fraction of NBA. Or any football league that doesnt pay players the insane wages of the top few teams in 3-4 leagues isnt worth calling professional.
@@vlada The way you understaned him does not necessarily mean that he was thinking on this way. I didn't understand the way you did. It's your perception of his words, it's hard to put minds in words that everyone can catch the real point of the person who wrote the story. I got your point to.
Euroleague is basketball, Nba is a TV show. A EU match takes you about 2 hours tops to watch, with almost NO commercials, very short time outs, high intensity play, while the NBA game time consists of 50% commercials, 20%time outs and 30% of actual basketball.
yes thats why NBA players make so much more compared to EL players
@@orenthaljames2534 whores make more money compared to regular women too, some even 150 eu per hour
@@orenthaljames2534 True, also basketball is not as populair in Europe as it is in America
@@deeznutz8320 Depends on the country. It is pretty huge in the Balkans, Spain etc.
I just posted the same.
Euro league is real basketball.
NBA is a tv show
Euroleage has 34 games in regular season but every team has to play their national League games and national Cup games. That occurs 2-3 games per week. Of course is less than 82 but the difference is not 82-34. Is about 82-70. It depends what n how many teams each national League has
They usually also have a cup type of tournament inside the nation, which are some additional games
Yep but Euroleague teams play most games with their foot off the pedal in their domestic leagues when they are not playing the 2 or 3 strongest teams.
Like how the European soccer season lasts 364 days a year the European basketball season is longer than the NBA's. NBA plays too many games.
Most Eurolague powerhouses treat domestic games as practice games
True 👍🏿
The reason why they have much smaller number of games is because those teams play their national leagues which large number of them are pretty tough. Euroleague is 1000x more interesting to watch than NBA because every game is played like It is their last game in their carrer. So much passion (especially in Serbia, Tel Aviv, Athens, and more...) that brings to the game is INSANE. So much mind games, tactics and IQ Euroleague has to offer. You are never going to see a guy in Eurolague to shoot more that 20 shots like Harden, Durant, etc. (not gonna include Luka because when he was in Euroleague he wasn't doing that). Overall, much better league, which will, in future years, surelu but slowly, reach NBA talent but have the same Euroleague concept.
which large number of them are pretty tough???LMAO really??other that Spain ACB...can you name high level domestic leagues? becouse,greece,italy,adriatic,lithuania and so on complete joke of competition in they domestic leagues
@enjoylife - true. But you still need to travel to the game, prepare, warm up and play. It's huge load, because you can't take any game, Euroleague and domestic, easy. Teams fight for their national titles, cup titles and Euroleague title. Before play off, they have the very similar number of games as NBA teams.
Yes for example žalgiris plays euroleague, lkl(Lithuanian domestic league) and short kmt (king Mindaugas cup) so in total there is more games then nba and i know some teams play in even more leagues
@@enjoylife1239 turkish is quite strong and greek is decent
@@enjoylife1239 wtf bro? just because there are 3-4 teams in domestic leagues that play in euroleague and have big difference over other teams in those leagues (Zvezda/Partizan in Adriatic ; Panathanaikos/ Olympiacos in Greek and others, you get the point…) doesn’t mean those leagues are bad . If you know there is a competition called EuroCup which is a pretty strong competition too for lower tier teams. I personnaly follow Adriatic league and even though you can see a prety big difference between Zvezda and Partizan with the rest of the league, they never take their opponents for granted and always play 100% . Partizan and Zvezda actually both lost one game in the Adriatic so your opinion is proven wrong brother.
There might be only 34 games in the Euroleague but you forget the domestic championships as well so overall while the NBA does have more games it's not by that big a margin.
@@abaraviciusdominykas4584 so you mean to tell me that the domestic derbys for Greece or Serbia don't sell out just as much as any Euroleague game or sometimes even more!?
@@andreas9720 that's not what he said, he was talking overall perspective obviously
@@andreas9720 he means that other that Spain ACB....other leagues domestic competition level complete joke...
@@abaraviciusdominykas4584 no that's completely inaccurate. I'm a Virtus Bologna fan, and the main goal is the national championship, Euroleague it's a plus.
@@abaraviciusdominykas4584 but they still have to play. A game is a game, with or without a fully sold out arena.
This year's euroleague is really great to watch.
The parity this year is amazing. Can't wait for the playoff races and stuff. Now imagine if there was a playin and maybe even a play-out tournament as well. That would be some incredible storylines.
@@AugustasSuliauskas this year anyone can beat anyone,much more amazing than nba
I’m in America. What channel can I watch euro league on? If there’s no channel then where else can I watch it?
@@swishytrent8153 on wikipedia it says flo sports in US and Canada are broadcasting
@@swishytrent8153 any word? I’m sick of the NBA.
I think the NBA is aimed at a more casual audience, so to speak. few people will understand the complex combinations and tactics of European basketball, but everyone likes a lot of points in the NBA, where everything is done for this - I mean, 3 seconds, spacing and so on. Speaking about the best marketability of European basketball, I think the best way to achieve this is to explain all these tactics, schemes, combinations that European basketball consists of, for a simple spectator. as soon as the masses begin to understand the nuances, it will make a breakthrough
I disagree, even thought Nba is more show driven, the level of talent is way bigger than euroleague's.
I sincerely enjoy a lot Euroleague, but that doesn't mean that's better or worse than Nba.
With that said, regular season games in Euroleague are less and way more competitive. When it comes to playoffs and finals, the level reached by nba is the biggest in the world.
I agree for the most part, however, the euroleague wont make a breakthrough because casual watchers just prefer the iso style of the nba. However, if you actually care about the game, you might prefer euroleague. So in short, euroleague has a more complex game, while the nba is way more simple (doesnt have anything to do with skill). But with 90% of the watchers being casual, the nba sells better and thus has all the talent ending up in the nba
Also wanna state that the focus on the individual is drastically increasing, especially youth players often only focus on that part and don't really have teamplay or basketball iq.
Nba is purely to atract maximum number of viewers (more minutes, different defensive rules and such)
@Ale 00 Euroleague --> finals = 1 match and final 4 as well, that feeling cannot be compared with anything. The only way of approaching this level of emotion is by having a Game7 in the nba which is rare
Very good explanation… one more remark about the offense and the final score: don’t forget that we are playing in the Euroleague only 4 quarters of 10 minutes .. means NBA has 8 additional minutes in each game, which is adding to the final score another 20-30 points. Regards from Greece
Its not just Euroleague but every league in the world outside of NBA that plays 40mins games. Its a FIBA rule and is the standard across the globe. But I get that youre trying to inform americans. 👍
You’re right but the overall game is also much slower here in Euroleague: we have ~12-13 possessions less per 40 mins than in the NBA. That is also a huge factor to more scoring overseas
@Augustas Šuliauskas True.
Because unlike in the NBA, Euroleague actually plays defence.
Modern NBA most or the times doesn't resemble basketball. It's more like an exhibition than a match.
Euroleague is too slow sometimes I feel like I'm watching the CBA, wait even CBA players play at a faster pace and they rarely dunk in Europe too it's too mid
@@ayidonno of course because there is no defense in NBA nor CBA, it's just the guy with the ball runnning to the basket, the slightest of contacts is a foul so defenses let them run to the basket without opposition
Nba: I'm excited for the results of the games but not for the games. Sometimes they are so boring. Euroleague: I'm excited for the games
Euroleague is better.
NBA was great 80s and up to mid 90s:
Celtics, Lakers, Detroit Pistons, Bulls
Then it started turning into a Circus.
When Shaq and Duncan was in prime and Lebron came to the league was amazing too. I would say after 2008 everything changed, both movies and games got a little worse too.
After the three point revolution circa 2015 the NBA has become like a video game
Euroleague is basketball. NBA is a show. That's the difference
true this is why euroleague has final 4 format clearly for the "basketball"
@@Ghost0fDeath1 marketing is very different. More tickets, more TV views, more intense.
In NBA they are not playing basketball, they are giving a show for the crowd. At least at regular season.
@@Ghost0fDeath1you got to get people to watch some how
europe in general has less ads
march madness still the best basketball tournament
Yeah, the EuroLeague encompasses 34 games for each participant. However, EuroLeague teams also play in their respective national leagues (which are usually 34 games as well) and so it adds up to 68 games (give or take a few). Thus the difference isn't that huge.
Plus cup games
Yes but most of the times the teams are not that good in the national cup so the intensity isnt the same (here in Greece the big teams mostly use younger players with not much experience
Here in Serbia in the cup final its probably Red Star va Partizan so its a road to the final plus a derby game in the final
@@vagos5210 Aye but Euroleague is where they focus all their intensity
Oh it’s not so how many games a nba team plays if they reach eastern conference finals ? Or The final ? Lol exactly over 80 games it’s not close
Totally agree. Until the playoffs and now the play-in match-ups arrive, the NBA is a looking-for-highlights show, but most minutes of the games of the regular season are pretty boring . Euroleague teams have their regular season in their home leagues (maybe boring, too) but the weekly Euroleague game is usually THE game of the week, for clubs, coaches and players, and the games that their future careers and contracts depend on. It is not strange that the average intensity is higher. Tactically you can see how teams are developing their systems and adjustments to move forward in the competition, and I think you nailed it, playing almost every day in the NBA, the tactical side can't be as relevant as it is in playoffs time.
It's also a statpadding contest. Everyone gets 40-50 points for his CV xD
Domestic European leagues in Europe might be boring? Gee, you mean the Turkish BSL or Serie A basketball isn't a thrill a minute???
the regular season is more important due to the lack of games. Most national leagues have 16 teams, a home and away season of 30 games. The damage for losing is far bigger with less games to play
In the Euroleague the rule "every possession count" get to the point that a team is still giving everything the last minute with a 20 points differential. For this reason, Euroleague teams have very wide rosters. In fact, the older or more injury-prone guys don't play in national leagues. Still there are lots of players who keep the same intensity playing 70/80 games a season
Europe is about passion and pride.. and all for the team!! Whereas most NBA players have little if any commitment.. floating around.. self centred on themselves and their contracts
NBA can't handle a supreme tactician like Željko Obradovic as a coach. One of the greatest and most successful basketball coaches of all time.. his records are astounding
But the NBA is not interested in passion.. fans want to see physical ability and social media stats
To the first argument with defensive plays and no offense: i think ben simmons showed clearly that defending the best player every game and having no real offensive skill package is not viable in the NBA. He was one of the best defenders in the league for like 3 seasons. Still had overall a rather negative impact on the team.
The offensive skills of NBA players is just too much to handle. You lose more than u get by playing only defense. Not stretching the floor or not helping your team in any way offensively can not be balanced out by playing the best defense of the league.
Matisse Thybulle is another great example.
There is a huge mentality difference, which makes the hole story very hard to compare.
You have on one side the popcorn family event, driven by highlight dunkings, long range shots, super stars on the court with 40 shots per game and low level of passion, especially during regular season
On the other side you have the super passionate and energetic basketball event, where each ball counts, each win is highly celebrated, where the fight is in focus, fans love to see their players fight on the court for each ball, much more then a super-dunk. Team basketball instead of one man show! The refs are much more under pressure... Fight instead of mass media show. Real basketball instead of profit-only driven typical US event...
Look at football - even there is a huge amount of money - watch the derbys in Spain, England or champions league, look at the players how they celebrate each goal. We speak here more about a mentality difference - in Europe you still have emotions, passion... In US is most of that eaten by money. System puppets without a soul.
Damn you went in
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A low ranking NBA team can win by huge margins against Euroleague all stars. Games in Europe are ahorterr by 8 minutes, so they fight harder from the first quarter
@@hus390 sorry, but I don't agree with you. For example take: Campazzo, vildoza, James, Mirotic and Tavarez... You wanna tell me that low ranked NBA teams would easily beat that starting 5?
What happened on the last World cup? You won easily? No...
You are lucky that Yugoslavia doesn't exists any more, otherwise Vukcevic, Jokic, Doncic, Micic, Teodosic, Bogdanovic 1, Bogdanovic 2.... would easily compete against NBA All-stars...
You also forgot your commercial time-outs buddy, so yes, it is shorter by 8min but with less breaks, harder defence and longer season.
The best basketball talents play in the NBA, no question... But the difference isn't that big...
@T Jhon Take your popcorn puppet, eat your Kit-Kat and shut up... Thanks. 😘
Great video! You’re right about number of games and also lenght of the games. But there’s also other differences.
I live in Milan and I go to watch every Euroleague games of my team since a lot of year.
I watch obviously also other teams games, but on tv.
I watch nba too, but less often than European games also because of the clock.
I red the morning reviews and scores about almost every nba games and sometimes take a look at the short time videos of the night best games. And I try to watch nba playoff games.
I think they are two different kind of play and translate basketball on the court. Different rules, different pace, different spaces, and huge atlethic gap.
League of players against league of coaches, someone says.
Coach Messina told me past year: “here every defensive mistakes is punished, in nba also if someone do some mistake, he can recover soon thanks to his amazing atlethic ability, because of that we have different ways to prepare games”.
Thanks for your work man!
Appreciate
I think that more than the things you mentioned, there is the mentality and cultural view. While in the NBA, the American system believes in the stats that create the show, the business, and the money, the European sees the league as a sport at first. The players are educated to put the team's success first place
Cierto 👍🏼
Y’all say this but don’t watch ball lol
@T Jhon then y don’t they European player go to the nba? They want money but can’t because their r still more better basketball players in America
@T Jhon I thought Luka, Giannis, and Jokic kill American players on daily basis on American soil.
@T Jhon Ja and Dame doesn’t defend, either. American dream teams, with all the talents they got, now they have to fight thru the defense and play really hard straight basketball on international arena. Kinda hard to win the game with only fancy dribbles, flops, and 3 pointers.
Euroleague regular season > nba regular season
NBA playoffs > euroleague
nope. nba no doubt has the best players in the world but the basketball in euroleague is way better even than the nba playoffs. nba playoffs just offer extra drama, that's all. "teams play different basketball during playoffs dude!" is a street legend.
Everything is personal preference, there is no right or wrong answer, only pointless debates
@@drzitbag06 Do you not understand the difference in strategy going from playing a team for one game randomly during the season vs continuous matchups against the same team?
Only NBA Finals = euroleague
I don't agree. Even in the nba playoffs most people just tune in for a game or two and then just watch the highlights. There is no way you watch each stage 5-6 times and then follow the other teams as well. There is no suspense, no passion. I the end I'm all like who cares.
Been saying this since I lived in Germany since 2015. I say Luka playing in the Final Four of the Euroleague in Berlin one time and it was INCREDIBLE. It almost felt as if I was watching bVb or Eintracht Frankfurt because of how intense it was. They basketball is just way better and I think the top ACB teams prove that every season.
Luka is European so of course he will watch European stuff. ...a low ranking NBA team can win by huge margins against Euroleague all stars.
@@hus390 To be fair Us sports leagues are set up so that the smallest teams are at least sorta competitive
@@genghiskhansbabymomma5649 you could take the worst players from each NBA team and they'd still win easily
@@hus390 Only If its played with NBA rules.I think the statistic when NBA teams play European teams with NBA rules is something like 85-15 for NBA teams.But when they play by FIBA rules its more like 60-40 for NBA teams.I think this channel made a video about it.Seeing the US national team struggle at the last Olympics and World Cup and in the 2004 and 2006 international competitions shows that the talent margin isn’t so far as we think it is.
@Din Operta the us men's basketball team has lost 11 times in 100 years my guy and most of those loses where before nba players could play.
Stop trying to constantly shit on our talent ? Why is this a consistent thing with europeans
We literally win the most medals every time at the Olympics while having 5 major sports leagues in our country plus soccer, and we still get told we're not that good? How arrogant do you guys have to be
Euroleague is a breath of fresh air for some fans who are tired of NBA softness. Besides euroleague emphasize more team plays rather going for iso plays on their players
PJ Tucker is the exact guy you're talking about at the beginning of this video, funnily enough he did play overseas before coming to back to the US and playing in the NBA. He went the longest consecutive time without scoring a point in NBA history this season, and still starts and plays 20+ minutes despite regularly scoring almost no points. Of course PJ is very much a rarity in the league, but NBA teams generally don't want complete non-factors on offense.
However, a lot of your points are very valid. The NBA regular season becomes a slog and because so many teams make the playoffs the biggest challenges for the top contenders is usually to try to stay healthy through the regular season while securing home court advantage. Euroleague definitely has a lot of advantages to the game, and I honestly think NBA rules have given so much power to offensive players that it's not as entertaining. It's gone from offense vs. defense to the offense is at a massive advantage, and the defense needs everything to go right. Just eliminating defensive 3 seconds in the NBA I think would go a long way.
This is also because in Euroleague at least ~80% of the teams every season are in win-now mode while in the NBA every year there are like like 6-7 true contenders (20% of the league). A lot of games can become very lopsided because of this too
P.J. Tucker can shoot though, so he is a typical 3&D player. Maybe Tony Allen is a better example, even though he is retired for 5 years now 😄
Yeah that was a stupid analogy there's loads of guys in the NBA that just defend for a living
Pj is best corner shooter ever
@@youtubeenthussiast328 its still a bad thing. ben simmons defends + playmakes but doesnt see the court because other players in nba defend playmake AND score the odd points. that last part is important. pj tuckers shoots well from corner 3. claxton finishes well at the rim etc. there is no nba player that only defends but still starts every game.
Right. Europian top teams are playing several competitions at the same time. So for example they play full seasons in EuroLeague and in Aba League. And they might also play different Cup competitions. And most of teams wil have Play offs in both league competitions. ABA has 26 games and and EuroLeague has 34. And add to that play off games. What you also need to know is that zone deffence was always allowed so it is much more chalanging for offence and for defence. Another big difference is that games are not entertaintment shows. There are no big screens, No attractions. No distructions. Only thing going on is the game and ofcourse supporting your team. As you said already it is really compettitive. Most of NBA games look like exibition games in comparasan.
Especially watching live game with fans in my Belgrade :)
great video. loved watching it
Great content dude. Keep up the good work, thanks!
Thanks a lot!
Agreed, amazing job!
In my opinion an excellenct analysis and I was not aware of some of the datapoints your presented. Solid video.
It is a personal preference at the end of the day. The NBA has specific characteristics which cannot be found in Europe, like dunking, casual long range 3 pointers, 40+ games by players. These things are rare in Europe, and if you want to watch team efforts, defense, tactics, all in all pure competitive team basketball, you should watch the Euroleague. Especially this year, when almost anyone can beat anyone else, the tension is very high and like they say "Every game matters".
You can't see many dunks and 40 points in Euro definitely because of the nature of the game...the defense is way tougher...no one will be giving you wide open dunks...or 40 point games..your not dropping 40 on anyone's watch.
@@timothykinoti7768 lol euro dunks are lame. Basically upgraded wnba dunks don't even compare, nad i like euroleague more!
@@timothykinoti7768 yea because they dont have the talent to drop those points or dunk like american players. defense has nothing to do with it lol
@@hecticlungs4308 come on ...just look at the Olympic games.how comes your best scorers Dont shine as much with the 50 points....the best they would do is 30s and they have hustled like crazy...even for lebron it was tough...he's never scored 30 points in Olympic games.....Steph couldn't even get more than 10 points....forget about Olympics...US college games ..the stars hardly score 30 or 40...40 is extremely rare...all of a sudden when they're in NBA the go for 50s... NBA defense is a joke... even the players themselves say it expecially from the past ...Shaq and the rest...NBA is a show
Whatever one might think about these arguments, this is great video and excellent attempt to elaborate in points and concrete details "Europe vs. USA" affiliations of different people.
Thank you very much sir!
@@AugustasSuliauskas No need for that, really. People nowadays use to take a stand on anything so easy, your video is refreshing and might help them to put some substance behind their opinion. Personally, I watch both for probably different basketball reasons but I have stronger focus on Euroleague games due to their intensity and larger influence that coach tactics have on the development of the games. At the other hand, if someone tells me that he/she doesn't like to watch Jokic, Steph, or Doncic simply because they play NBA I would conclude with clear conscience that the person in question doesn't like basketball at all. What's there not to like?
@@goranlojancic8420 I agree 100%. Love watching both leagues but for different reasons. (if we are talking about regular season). NBA playoffs is a different beast.
@@AugustasSuliauskas Yes. And we also shouldn't forget that most of the Euroleague clubs have large fan bases and they dominate in comments on such videos coming from a European guy. It is natural they have a bias toward Euroleague because they are emotionally involved. Even Luka Doncic said yesterday that he mostly watch Real Madrid and Red Star, being former player of Blancos and Red Star fan.
And yes, NBA play-offs is a totally different beast. Without the doubt it is a pinnacle of the world basketball in terms of quality. In terms of suspense, 'though, Euroleague Final Four is also a different beast.
Its not only 34 games, every single team from euro league has its own state championship where there is also a play off series . So in total euro clubs have more serious matches and derby games .
EL needs to change final-four somehow. All teams try to be in the play-offs and play-offs are great but after that final four is just two matches for the championship. This brings the surprise element and a fascinating basketball weekend in my opinion just one weekend and a total of four games for the top level European basketball is just not enough. Andre Trinkijeri's less regular season, groups and play-offs idea is great and should be considered. I also think series brings fairer results.
I disagree. Final four is the best think about euro league.
euroleague had groups ant stages before, didn't work
@@Tadas20 EL wasn't competitive and didn't have much viewers back then, it has both now and also has NBA watchers.
Series for the finals may be a great way of showing best teams best performance at the biggest stage, for much more matches.
@@user-kv3ww7yw6g I agree that final-four is the best thing about EL, but it is just a weekend and total of four matches including third place game. just four matches for the completion of a year long competition is not enough.
Completely agree with everything but the amount of games difference. Because teams also play local leagues, and specially Spanish teams with the ACB (best local league average level) have almost the same amount of games at the end of the season.
Nice video. You do understand the difference. To most Europeans the regular season of NBA is boring I think,.. I only watch my favorite team, look for some trends of how they should proceed,.. to become a contender and so on. But the lack of adjustments and so many games in a season devaluate a particular game,...and only in playoffs we can see who is really good. Euroleague Final4 is so hard on the teams,.. but it also has its charm because of the importance. There were many increadible final4 games where the players were fighting like crazy. You don't see that in the NBA. If only there were more money to offer to the European players.. All in all.. It's a business.
I prefer watching the Eurochallenge over the NBA
the game difference is that of an excuse since the teams dont play only on euroleague but on their countries too such as the cups the championship and super cups. Still the nba on averege has more games but thats just bs.
Really made all the Eurosnobs come out of hiding on this one.
I've never watched it but that is an interesting point about the number of games. I (and many others) feel part of the popularity of the NFL has to do with there only being one game a week -- every game matters and you can easily catch every game your favorite team plays. Even beyond the issues you're raising, I could never dream of catching every game an NBA team plays in a season.
But the NFL also has an average attendance of almost 70,000 per game in huge stadiums. NBA arenas are much smaller. Knicks selling out MSG is going to generate less revenue than the Giants selling out MetLife.
part of the success of the NFL is based on the amount of games. There are differences in physicality and exposure to injury, but the NBA has too many games
he loves Red star and real madrid
Quantity vs Quality
Also you forget one major element
Teams like Olympiakos, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, Fener, Red Star, have a fan base which comes from football (soccer) and that's the reason for the great atmosphere you see in a Euroleague game. Sth that NBA will never have.
Also tactically, EL is more appealing as you said because teams are competitive and engaged in every game.
And what is EL if not a breeding ground for the best NBA players like Luca?
Also NBA 48 mins/game and 7.24 3p line whereas EL, 40 mins and 6.75m 3p line. (less space, defenses more compact)
Watching an NBA game where a team shoots 58 3points is not basketball.
Keep in mind that EL teams also play their domestic and/or regional league besides the EL, and the number of games is actually pretty close to NBA. In Lazic's / Red Star case, you have 34 in EL, another 30 in ABA league, and another 10 or so in Serbian league, and that's all without the playoffs.
Plus, domestic cup, which is another 3-4 games. All in all, for the whole season, it might even be more than a non-playoff NBA team
I love Euroleague more than NBA, because NBA is show business league but Euroleague is so different and more competitive league.😊😇🥰😍🤗
Nailed it! European TEAM basketball is another game. Better to watch for every (team) basketball fan.
This is the video i needed to help me understand how EL and NBA differ - thank you!
I agree with Luca Duncic! I use to be an NBA lover...now I switch to EuroLeague Basketball cause more exiting and it is very close to me and U right they should promote it better @BasketNews :)!
For me Euroleague is the 2nd in talent and marketing compared to NBA, but as a semi-pro basketball player like me, I tend to watch euroleague games more because I learn new tactics every game on both ends of the court
You ain’t no pro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think better talent is purely subjective. If we measure it by the ability to execute a windmill 360˚ dunk, yes the NBA is way better. But as far as executing complex plays and strategise on the court, then Euroleague is better.
Why there is the need to execute complex plays in the first place? Maybe because players in Europe are nowhere near the talent level competing in NBA? I mean, why should prime LeBron or Curry use complex plays, if simple drive or couple screens without ball creates enough space or them to make the shot, which most of the Euroleague players could not even attempt. At times, it is very painful to watch, that 80 percent of Euroleague players footwork is non-existant as well as ability to shoot fade or side aways.
@@andriussazonovas The nba have created rules and a culture which favor offense. It's much easier to score since you don't have big man in the paint and you can ISO since there is a lot more spacing. Then we can talk about superstars being favored and travelling as much as they want. Most of the flashy moves where they blow by the defenders are travelling violations. Nba doesn't care since it's attractive to casual fans and that's what brings in the money. Who cares about defense. Nba is trash
@@andriussazonovas Because there's this thing called "defense". It is illegal in the NBA. Even Jordan's Bulls needed to invent a complex offensive scheme to dominate. Today's NBA players are highly skilled at execution, but very few of them know how to play the game under pressure. The game's been simplified to cover those weaknesses. Shit is boring.
@@larx5931 exactly 👍👌
@Andrius Sazonovas foot work non existen??you are funny🤣how old are you,15?that's why nba mvps like the Greek or fat jokic are being dominated by Euroleague players.again,you're funny😅only doncic is able to play both league and dominated them. His fundamentals are out of this word and specifically way beter than any nba kid who doesn't even know what zone defense is.
As already mentioned in Severin comments before there are a lot momentan game to be Player in the domestic leagues. A German Euroleague Team has to play AT minimum 34 games Euroleague and 34 games domestic BBL games plus a further domestic play off tournament. All in all it's a hard lang season with counting matches back to back.
Every team in euroleague has games in their own country championships,so they also hit many games also every country has hiw own CUP tourment,to close it they also have around 80 games
Counting only Euroleagues games and comparing does not make sense, all those teams have their local country leagues of similar number of games, so actually the difference to NBA for top teams is much smaller.
There are very few leagues where EL teams have to even break a sweat in the local tournaments so it is not really comparable. Maccabi basically plays with a second team on that front.
I agree with you. I think that the biggest difference between NBA and Euroleague is represented by the salary. Considering the number of game, an Euroleague team can easily play 80 games every season (an Italian team, this season, could play 92 games if at all).
I think another great reason Luka watches the euro league is because he plays in the NBA himself. He knows what's going on in the NBA already. An actor probably doesn't watch his own movie as well, but rather some other movie.
yeah its like EPL, wait a whole week just to see the best performance, but last night mike james team lose so early :(
No contest there. If you adore basketball like me, Euroleague is the only choice.
You can die of boredom if you watch any NBA whole game of this era.
I miss the 90's when the best basketball I have seen was played in the NBA.
But today basketball junkies watch only Euroleague. This is the only truth now ...
Great video !!!
Euroleague teams are not just playing 34 games. Every team is playing its national league as well, plus other championships.
For example, a team from the spanish league might be playing Euroleague + 34 ACB games + King's Cup games + Super Cup. They are still less games than in the NBA, but not that less as suggested in this video.
Thanks dude im berginer in basket and you do easy to undertand
Great video, a sub from a KK Partizan fan.
dont forget that teams that play in the eurolague also plays in their own country's leagues, so they actually play more than 32 games in a season.
It's not only 34 games , they have domestic championships plus cup play! About 70 games
and most of the domestic games are against low quality bad teams. Currently in the La Liga ACB the big 3 teams are 13 wins, 3 loss which is a win rate of 81.25% which equates to 66 or 67 wins in an NBA season.
You think a team like Baxi Manresa is going to provide Real Madrid or Barcelona much competition?
1:25 don't forget that the Euroleague teams play also in their leagues, so there are more games and the schedules are more tight plus the travelling takes more time too
Euroleague because it seems like more of a team effort. Just watched Lakers vs Nuggets the other day.. the players were casually walking across the middle line. Meandering, strolling around. Did not realize it was so chilled in the NBA
The EuroLeague gives me some nostalgic vibes. I miss the old NBA.
I definitely think the NBA would benefit from a shorter regular season. I haven't watched much Euroleague, but their schedule is very similar to NCAA College Basketball, which I prefer to the NBA.
Nah it's very different, NCAA and NBA is faster paced but euroleague is pretty slow, it's like watching a team full of jokics and doncics and they rarely dunk
I agree with the benefit. Since we have no east vs west all stars anymore, you can really ban the conferences and make a home and away season like the europeans. 58 games every season.
But this way it will be even harder for an LA vs NY or Boston in the final, and this is what the NBA is always looking for in the end
A Belgian here who went and watched an NBA game in that stadium in Miami named after an airport I think.
I agree with many comments on how the NBA and most American big sports in general honestly, is a show.
I categorize it more in the stand up comedy/circus style of event rather than a sporting event I'm used to.
The American ball players destroy their EU counterparts... regularly
@@joeblowe3180 That's not really relevant? I think you responded to the wrong person. I was talking about the orginisation surrounding the talent, not the quality of the talent.
in the Euroleague, every point is important in every part of the game, while, for example, in the NBA, it is not uncommon for the result to suddenly turn around and lose 10 points in any quarter and make up for it later, while in the Euroleague it is much more difficult for such a turn to happen
This all could be right, but the main reason is because he loves crvena zvezda and if you look at his ig stories you will see that he only posts crvena zvezda's games
without SHAI was the reason why they all played better...everyone was shooting instead of SHAI shooting all the time.
Never seen a Euroleague game but I love basketball and really want to watch one now. Also interested in a shorter season for the nba at least somewhere around 60 games
i dont watch euroleague but if doncic transfer there definitely watch
i only watch euroleague when fiba i like the team oriented defense and offense
but i dont know any one so hard for me to watch
i personally see a lot of paralleles in football's premier league to the nba. both exceed as the respective best league. as they generate the most money thus being able to invest into their players more than other leagues and keeping their top tier status. the downside is as you mentioned a number of games that is not only a strain for the player's bodies but in the long run it will negatively impact fan's interest since it is simply too much. the quality of the games also suffers except for the best teams competing agaisnt one another.
Euroleague > NBA
Euroleague teams also play their national leagues and cups too (~70 games + playoffs 3win series), tho with such a depth
(and lesser opponents) it's bit easier and they also play only 40min instead 48.
Euroleague teams have to play their national league as well I think. So it can happen that they'll have 4-5 games a week depending on national league, cup games and euroleague.
Shortening the season would definitely increase the intensity and the overall product. I think a lot of players would object on an individual level because of their career stats. A shorter season means the history books are gonna remain the same.
Their bodies and careers will probably thank them on average with so many less injuries. Load management is already shortening the season voluntarily for some players
Americans are crazy about stats. In Europe people dont care about it. Sport is a sport, sometimes its war.... its not about the stats, its about emotions.
I always find curious how much they care about statistics in the US. If you tell a football (soccer for Americans) player he's going to play 15 games less per season they'd throw a party. Statistics wouldn't even cross their mind. They'd just think they'll be less prone to injuries and would have time to recover between games.
Partially Agree, they should bring in the marketing guys from Formula One especially the brains behind "drive to survive" to sell the product.
But i think if the Euroleague develops into a better commercially viable league, it can slowly but steadily match the talent the NBA has to offer especially since there are a lot of really great players coming out of Europe i.e. Victor Wembanyama, Luka, Giannis, Jokic etc
I predict soon there will be a merger of sorts in terms of the Euroleague and the NBA..
i highly doubt a merger would be possible. at most, a game between nba champion and euroleague champion would be awesome
Do they need to? Or rather, would a Euroleague fan ever want that? Greed kills sport, whether it's ridiculously inflated fees for players, or rule changes/officiating changes that favor a certain playstyle that 'would generate more views'. Drive To Survive, while having high budget production quality and POTENTIAL to be an amazing entertainment product to bring in more viewers, focuses on promoting fake narratives, is significantly disproportionate in terms of who they cover, sometimes leaving out drivers entirely. Does Euroleague need that, solely for the purpose of selling the product?
@@thomascat7044 great comment! i think the euroleague is as charming as it is because it's all about they passion, the dog fight, and just pure basketball being displayed.
I think it could use a little bit of propaganda though, to capture more non-basketball fanatics fans. I dont know many people who are really involved with basketball who follow the euroleague, but i know a lot who follow Champions League Football and NBA
No merger between Euroleague and NBA.
I like the Euroleague I think it would not be positive at this stage.
Maybe in 15-20 years the NBA would have a clear intention to become match focused.
When did Euroleague change the size of the key and three point line? I remember it used to be different than the NBA
Sometimes 6-7 games goes overtime or decided in last 2 mins in one round. Even the best teams can’t relax when they have 20+ points lead in first half. For me the most competitve league by far.
Euroleague is thousand time greater than nba circus 🎪
actually luka is a big supporter of zvezda, and thats the biggest reason why he watch euroleague.. if u look at his pictures when he watch euroleague in 99% cases it includes zvezda`s game.. same u can say for nikola vucevic ;)
More like 99% of the games are of Real Madrid xd
great that your talking about defense tactics... but the big issue is Euro league still plays physical.... while only in the playoffs there is some physicality in the NBA
In Europe every team playing in euroleague is also playing their national leagues and tournaments like "La copa del rey" at the middle of the season, so they are playing like 70-75 games per season
Nba is fun to watch when you want a basketball match of half speed with world class players. The Euroleague is much more exciting to watch. Good content !
Dude I just recently discovered you and I really like your channel content. But you are forgetting something very important, the teams have not only the Euroleague games but also the domestic championships.
But don't forget that every team plays their national league and national cup. And even some teams like Partizan and Crvena Zvezda play regional leagues too. When you add everything up it comes really close to NBAs' 82 games
But they play it over a longer period. 82 NBA games in around 25 weeks. Then to win an NBA championship a team has to win at least another 16 games (no champion has gone undefeated in the playoffs). The 2016-17 Warriors is one of the few teams to win an NBA championship playing less than 100 games between regular season and playoffs winning in 99 games. The 2021-22 Warriors played 104 games in 8 months.
Is there a different in rule too? I see a lot more physical interfere in Euro League
NBA is the most boring professional sports league, not just basketball
no disrespect to the talent of the NBA players (most talented decade of all time) but the highlight reel plays happen so often, the pace is so fast - it just gives regular season games the feel of ‘whoever has the hotter shooting night as a team wins’ no diversity in play styles (as teams), no players willing to learn & fit key roles for their teams, coaches influence is limited to making star personalities mesh well
hopefully the league can make a few rule changes to slow the pace / benefit the defender more often, because the NBA can definitely be the most competitive & entertaining pro league
Euroleague!!!
I would love to see a champions league style tournament with maybe the bottom 5 or a select group of NBA teams with downsized rosters (stars stay home) vs euroleague
you forgot about the locals leagues and tournaments. a nba team only plays the nba regular season, and now they added the in season tournament. an euroleague team has to play the eruoleague, the regular league of his country, an at least one torunament in his country too
The thing is.... back in the 80's and 90's they still played 82 games per season and the intensity from start to finish on both ends of the floor was cut-throat.... number of games doesn't have anything to do with it. Its just that today's nba has a lazier and softer underbelly compared to past era's 🎯
No doubt NBA got all the best players, but it’s so boring to watch, no defence and no intensity. Euroleague is different story, such a high intensity, score most of the time is very close. And of course the fans make a difference
Which team do tou support in EL? I'd tell zalgiris but is there any other(s)?
EuroLeague is like Basketball combined with Football. Intense tactical battles vs. teams is very interesting. I think the biggest issue with EuroLeague however is that it can be hard to watch from outside of europe. If they could get a streaming deal that would help them a lot
i will not compare a league which shane larkin dominates with nba. All the comparison in this video tries to favor euroleague and never tries to be objective on the subject. Example : If you don't deep drop in nba with certain centers, nba guards will blow them by with their quick first step following with crazy athleticism.
If you have a much different players with much higher talent and abilities you can't compare the game played like that. You probably know bunch of basketball, you don't know how the games work in general however.
Who cares. The game is better.
Also it is system and strategy focused. Players are one component. Euroleague is better game.
And by the way fir example Giannis for some years when he had 18ppg then and full seasons in NBA was crap in Greek national team. Only after 3,4 years he started to add stuff. He couldnt permeate the defence, and couldnt participate in the higher level passing and system games of Europe and would just keep the ball and try to finish unsuccessfully or lose time. Then he developed in many ways and also in knowledge of European game through years of practice with National team. So some times it is both ways.
Of course the best would be the Euroleague when it also adds to squads the best NBA players as well.
@@innosanto depends on what you are looking for. For somebody, it might be delightful to watch teams trying to find at least a half open shot for 20-22 seconds. While I prefer watching offensive talent and abilities.
if they want the best talent they need to make the salaries higher and to make the eurolegue more attractive and make the season regulars like 78-80 games+ more teams and conferences that would be epic
Euroleague teams play national league games too, its another 34 games or so,plus national cup games as well.
Euroleague is also much easier to bet on. Like you said, in the NBA teams will dick around for 3 quarters and then decide to start trying and score 80 points in just the 4th quarter, or they'll go hard for the first 2 quarters and if the lead is big enough they'll dick around for the last two. IN the Euroleague you can predict things based on stats and substitutions. They go hard no matter what. In the NBA you have to predict things with a big emphasis on the psychology of each team's situation. For example, if a team is up 30 points going into half time, they almost always come out and dick around for as long as they can until the game gets close enough that they have to start trying again. If you bet on the over/under in a game that isn't close, you have to account for the fact that NBA players will basically dribble it out for the last minute of the game and not even play. In many European leagues your total point difference for the season is used as a tiebreaker, so every single point matters to them and they play hard until the clock hits 0's
NBA is a circus. Euroleague all day