I am a former female pastor, and yes, former because by the grace of God, He opened my eyes to see His words and gave me grace to submit and obey. Do I have regrets? Absolutely, NO. Why? Because this is not about me anymore, THIS IS ABOUT THE GLORY OF GOD. ❤
We owe it all to our Lord Jesus Christ. We spend time conversing and arguing across America because of equal rights. God is not about equal rights. In the parable of the men given the 3 talents. The body of Christ has these talents and not all are called to be preachers, deacons or ministers. We can service the ministry in a wide variety of areas.
There is a woman pastor at our church who is a missionary and no husband who opened 35 churches, all her life serving the lord. She is a witness and a vessel.
Yes Corinthian women were licentious, bullies, heathens so Paul had to address them in a general way. You all take one scripture and make an entire sermon against God-fearing called and chosen women to ministry. You all need to look at the context of what the culture of that chirch was. How about the scriptire says that there's no Jew nor gentile and no gender in God's eyes? No, Im not a pastor nor am I for 100 genders, only male & female as far as earthly flesh goes. Now you do you and I do me since ne9ther you are responsible for my soul nor I for yours. We all have opinions and only G9d knows the heart of a person. He called me 9ut of darkness and He leads me into the paths of righteousness--never needed a preacher nor a pastor to help me in my walk and ministry in the Kungdom of God.
@@ChristianMartinezMUSICIs she a missionary or a pastor? How was she planting churches? Please a little more details. A woman can witness to people but she can't pastor a church.
@@ChristianMartinezMUSICjust because someone is associated with a "Christian" church doesn't mean they are saved doesn't mean they aren't children of the devil
@@john318john yes, she is both a missionary and pastor sharing the Gospel all over south and North America. God can use anyone. She planted many churches in the poor suburbs.
@@Hisdaughter95I would say that if you truly have a passion and gift for teaching others, you should serve in children's ministry or maybe try to be a mentor to young women trying to grow in Christ.
That's partially true. Titus 2:3-5: "3The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed."
So many seem to be confusing the role of pastor and the role of witness. All Christian’s have an obligation to witness but the Bible is clear that a “pastor” is to be a man.
In the last days, God said I will pour out my spirit on all people. Your sons and your Daughters will prophesy… Joel 2:28. While I enjoy this discussion, but much of what people are hooked on here is religion…and not the will of God. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven!
@@rachelwinter1404 prophecy means to speak edification, exhortation and comfort to the church. Read 1 cor 12 and 1 cor 14:5. These are both in context to the gathered assembly.
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True, but there is nothing about the written command for women to be silent that needs any context or clarity...it's very simple, a child doesn't need clarification on this issue. Opposition to obedience to sound doctrine and the very clear command is the take away.
@@redcollardollar4235 Have you ever been inside a Jewish synagogue? Have you seen the sitting arrangements? Also in Revelations when Jesus rebuked He never mentioned anything about women preaching, He only rebuke them for allowing the woman who had a Jezebel spirit because she was seducing ppl. If the issue was her gender Jesus would have been upfront about it. The Bible needs context and the Spirit of God otherwise Satan also knows how to mislead using the word. He did it to Eve he tried it with Jesus, but Jesus understood context. Solomon said seek wisdom, understanding and good counsel.
@@ogochukwuuba1774 If a pastor called himself Apostle it raises a red flag run away from that church. Apostles were appointed by Christ, seen Christ or appointed by the Apostles. Example, replacement of Judas after his death. Apostle Paul another example.
@@ogochukwuuba1774 Why do you think I should listen to him? Like I said I'm not a person who listen to any person that called themselves an Apostle. I grew up in the same country in the commercial city
@@SebastianHernandez-gt3rj God used Ciaphas to prophecy not because of Ciaphas being righteous but because of the position he held. Ciaphas prophesied but believed not in Christ.
Can women share the gospel with others? Yes Can women hold a position of authority over a man in Church or pastor a church? No. Absolutely not. There is a difference between telling people about Jesus and how He died on the cross for your sins and that those who repent and believe will have everlasting life, AND teaching a body of people about the Bible in church. If God says it’s wrong, your opinion doesn’t matter. There’s a reason why the word of God says. That the heart is deceitful. Your hearts desires should equate to God’s desires. And if they don’t, you are in the wrong. Not God.
@@evansglobal1Then consider the whole Bible as "man-made" and reject it. Because after all, all writers that contributed to all books were men of God. God never litteraly written from hims-... Oh wait, you still have the 10 commandments left, that were written on a rock by God himself! Good luck studying those. Hope you could keep being biblically accurate. 😃
@@UrBrudda123 The Bible makes it clear the difference between man's opinion and God's commands. Apostle Paul like any other man made his mistakes and corrected most of them in his epistles. The Bible is a great book but it contains both the words of God, the deeds of man and the works of the devil.
When he says for women to be silent in the church, it means not to gossip or be distracting.. Some of the teachers Paul sent out to give his message were women.. Women can be teachers, they can witness just like men.
You should be careful because you've not read the word of God close enough. Paul is the one who actually said that women are not to teach or assert authority over a man, it says it several times in the Bible, you need to read the whole Bible to find out that women are not supposed to preach but be submissive to their husband. If they don't understand something they're supposed to ask their husband when they get home. It's not about gossiping because no one is supposed to do that, you need to learn your Bible a little bit better and stop misleading people.
@@richardhicks9914 I never said women should be Pastors, but they can teach if they have the wisdom from God.. Just because a man preaches doesn't mean he's always right, he may interpret the Bible wrong himself. That's why we all need to ask God for discernment... And I'm just curious, do you feel that anyone who has been saved through the teaching of a woman doesn't have true Salvation? and I'm genuinely asking, not trying to start anything lol.. I was brought up being taught women have no place at the altar except to lead worship, but after listening to Pastor Arnold Murray some years ago my view has changed.
@@richardhicks9914 Okay. Thanks for the insight. Follow up question please: what about women without husbands because it appears that in the context of the passages read alone, this was directed at married women (i.e. women with husbands)?
@@DeeDee-pv3ge please don't be silly, look up all of what it says about women not preaching, it's not that hard it's very simple to find, only silly people don't try hard enough and if you don't try to find the truth you never will find it, that's where everybody gets led astray, it's because they don't seek it.
As a pastor in Africa for some time now, I have seen women carrying the gospel and running with it faster and harder than men Edit: Let's also consider that currently, the world is still grappling with issues of gender. Imagine what it was like +/-1950 years ago when Paul wrote that letter. Remember he also gave instructions to slaves and slave owners but the church has found a way of navigating that in the modern day. So the same for women pastors/bishops, there is objective evidence that they can produce results as bishops if given the right support. Let's at least think about it.
My father asked us why we left our church in Peters Creek. We told him that the church changed. Our pastor believes in women preachers. I asked my dad, "If God places the man as the head of the house. How can a woman be the head of God's house." It made no sense to me. My father believes what God says as well.
1 Corinthians 14:33-36 King James Version (KJV)For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 1 Timothy 2:10-15 KJV but (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.- Gal 3:28 - There were no women priests in bible but there are women prophetesses. The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy. Don't discount God's ability to raise up women to do the job if the men wont rise to the occasion. Jesus's interaction with women were shocking to the culture at the time AND his disciples. I sincerely believe that the body functions best headed by a man of God but every spirit filled Male leader knows and respects the strength of a female minister.
The problem is that too many people don't understand why this matters. They think that it's degrading to women. But...we've been warned about people who will ignore the truth and follow what tickles their ears. The Bible told us this would happen in the last days. Women need to relearn their strength in God.
It’s a disgrace that fewer and fewer men have declined to rise up and be the preachers and teachers in these days.. God will use whoever is willing to be used to further His Word …
No it's completely the opposite actually walk into any church and ask the congregation and every single one of them male or female will tell you that they have been called to be the pastor
@@tomijerry650 nope I'm a youth worker it's my job to look after children that can't live with there parents due to alcohol and drug abuse and I can tell you honestly from experience that nearly every time at least %95 it's the mother that suffers from substance abuse related issues
@Gus. Tract man. Williams Father can use whoever he pleases and are willing to get his message out I think John was wrong just to be clear... I think we agree... not sure
Women cannot be over men, it goes against the Lords design. So it’s not that a woman cannot explain the gospel it’s that the Lord did not put her in the position to have authority over men
So a woman can’t hold a higher position at a job than a man, no doctors when theres a male nurse? Does god commend that too even though the woman is saving lives? Or is it just at the church?
@@Pinkdollface Awesome comment As a I have a woman doctor dentist barber I think, women should b uplifted for as I know for ages they were,suppressed As the Bible was twisted to justify this cruel treatment That is evil n straight, from the pit of hell, fire 🔥
The church is not a building made with human hands. The church is both women and men. There is no male orcfemale for those annointed by God. Women are prophets just like men. Paul was speaking of the culture at that time and not the words of God. Rightly divide.
My daughter asked a question after watching this. “Why can’t women preach?” To which I replied; To change a tire you need a jack and a tire iron. Which is more important? Neither. Both are equal they are just made to do different jobs. Satan, wants to flip everything God does. Do you accept what God has made. Isn’t he wiser than us. Do you trust him? Man and woman are equals but they have different jobs. Is daddy going to work more important than mommy caring and teaching in the house while daddy is at work? She got it. 🎉😊😅
@@TriciaPerry-ef7bi physically and in some things, you are right, they're not equal. He said neither was more important, and his example was perfect for a child to understand
@@TriciaPerry-ef7biMen & Women are equal not physical but they are equal. God put Men to lead the house hold but God didn’t make women inferior, they are our equals. God put Men as head of the house hold but that doesn’t mean that women aren’t our equals.🤷
1 Corinthians 11:1-3: 1Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. 2Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you. 3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Since I became a born-again christian June 1969 it has changed drastically. In spite of 1 Tim 2 its clear women are not supposed to teach. Do we pick now what we want to obey??? It's just like Israel before being taken into Captivity, Straying from God's Word. Isaiah 3:12. Children. Opress them and women rule over them
For those that are confused by this message, men and women are both called to spread the message of the gospel. The Bible prohibits women from pastoring, it’s a form of submission. God is the head of man, man the head of women. Women aren’t supposed to lead a church because they are the weaker vessel. This doesn’t mean we cannot share the gospel with strangers and those around us. This also doesn’t mean women are inferior to men, it’s the perfect structure created by God for a perfect union.
Women are called to spread the word but not pastor and lead church? Really? So men will continue holding God to ransom? hell no!! God said at the latter days, He will pour out His spirit on ALL and your sons and DAUGHTERS will prophesy. It was rather men who rebelled against God so He used and still using :anything" willing/available including women to spread His word. Ask the Holy Spirit to give you clarity on the Word. Shalom.
@@nanaama1807 @Nana Ama Prophecy and pastoral leadership in a Church are two very different things. I believe MOTO hit the nail on the head. Women are permitted to teach other women, children, spread the gospel of course, and can prophecy but it's quite clear they are not to lead a church. "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man." 1Timothy 2:11-12 Part of the criteria for being a church elder is being a husband to one wife so would it make sense that a female elder is not permitted but a female pastor to lead the Church is permitted? All of Jesus' 12 disciples were men and male pastors have been the norm ever since the church was formed. I've done a bit of research on this topic and even though I found evidence for both sides I continue to find a much stronger argument that God is saying women are not to pastor/lead a church. And if in doubt, I think it's wise to err on the side of caution attending churches with male preachers or risk offending God.
There seems to have always women prophets. So last days must mean more prophecy than normal. Prophecy is not teaching or exercising authority it is making known a message from God. And there is a ton of false prophecy
If she must be silent then she must not sing, she must not pray loud, she must not prophesy, she must not share a prophetic dream if God gives her one because all of these include speaking to men and if you share a revelation that means you are teaching... the only thing she is aloud is to breath
@@ami2763 the passage a couple verses further Paul explains women are not to have authority over a man. God made us equal but different is the complimentarian view. Both sexes are involved in worship and prophecy but have different roles in the body of Christ
@@Topher3088 No. That verse ist talking about HER OWN MAN. A woman can lead men. Absolutely. There are examples in OT and NT. It is about how she leads and if she still can submit to HER OWN MAN. 1st Timothy 2:12 is about Adam and Eve, thus about marriage.
Satan can make you understand the word of God in different And carnal ways if the spirit of the world is the one leading you to understand but if the holy spirit is the one leading you then you can truly understand it and do the will of God, he can also show you secrets of it that was meant by the church to know them
Friend. John MacArthur has taken those verses completely out of context. Please go read the entirety of the chapter. He should not use this passage as a support for his point.
@@suzannemartin68171 Timothy 2:12-15 New American Standard Bible 12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first [a]created, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman was [b]deceived and [c]became a wrongdoer. 15 But [d]women will be [e]preserved through [f]childbirth-if they continue in faith, love, and sanctity, with moderation.
Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Context Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
Mat 7:21: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
@@Mydailyword170 bearing witness is fine. We are talking about women teaching men, in Christ’s church. Sharing with friends and unbelievers in a casual setting is a different story - as evidenced here.
In the words of Dr. Billy Graham, it is a result of men not standing up and taking responsibility, that our society is heading toward the matriarch. I agree with the word of God. More men need to be men of God and lead. God bless 🙏
@@gus.tractman.williams4442 the problem with modern beliefs is, that Jesus' teachings were all just full of compassion and not at all offensive. But if you read the Bible you'll figure out, that his teachings were convicting and that he called out the pharisees and religious people who didn't have faith in god. They just lived with the fear of people and not the fear of God.
I do agree too. Women hate couch potatoes and sooner or later these guys get dumped. They innately want a loving and directive man that isn’t afraid of her or anybody else for that matter. When they get that, they get upset at the guy. No wonder why Paul have the recommendation to avoid trying to get married: stay as the Lord called you he said… few women get that one nowadays. If we ever get into war, would women be so prone then to demand equality between the sexes ? I let you answer that question by yourself!
@MyFamily Story Moments the statement from Billy Graham goes deeper than just a woman's likes and dislikes. There's a spiritual war happening. The "powers that be" are dividing us by color, gender, sexual preference, religion...name it. All to profit and obtain more control/power.There is and has been an attack on men for decades now, the family unit, and the church. People need to put their emotions aside in order to see this manipulation, especially men. With Godly men leading, no one will care what a selfish woman or emotional man wants. If God is front and center in the household, the wife will follow her husband. Don't be unequally yoked in the faith unless God calls you to be for his reasons. Your question re combat would be irrelevant if we were a Godly nation. Remember, the women you see or hear about are not representative of every woman, same goes for "all men", "all blacks", every white person is not racist or whatever divide they're brainwashing the masses with on that day. Good luck to you sir in your life's journey 🙏
God created men and women to fulfill roles. Both are important. Men are to lead, women are to support and nurture. If we, women take the role of the man, we tend to not fully fulfill our role as a woman. We may feel that we have the wisdom to preach, but better share it with the right man and let him do the leading and preaching.
But even the wisdom to preach women preachers don’t possess it to men with the correct Godly mindset, one can’t be wise as a woman and be a preacher in the first place because that choice alone is unwise
John MacArthur should know that when the majority of evangelical Christians disagree with his viewpoint, that it is not likely to be a rebellion issue. The fact is the majority of Christians disagree with him because they have studied the issue deeply and believe that God through the word of scripture disagrees with John MacArthur!
It's not a bigger concern. The word of God, the WHOLE word of God is the gospel. The moment you think you can cherry pick scripture to conform to your will, you are proven to be a fraud and no one should trust you.
@@sharonrodriques83 then men should step up and do their jobs, they should be responsible!, you'll see more women in churches than men, where are the men?, in bars, or playing video games, or smoking weed, or even cycling 🙄😒😤
God has used many women to spread the Word and lead others biblically. Throughout the Bible, women have played a key role in fulfilling God's plan. They have also held positions of leadership and responsibilities in spreading the Gospel. I’m new to the Bible and if GOD AND JESUS guide you, women or man. Fulfill your assignment ppl. It won’t be easy. 🙏💪
@@beatewagner7.2934 Not at all, you see God made man with his roles and he made Women as a helper and Man are made to lead Women this is not “Patriarchy” it doesn’t make women in-equal, in fact they have roles that men can’t accomplish either, one of the roles of Men is to lead and especially to lead the church
Pastor John MacArthur is a wonderful pastor and will teach you a lot about the Bible. Please don’t let the short turn you off about him so to speak. He is literally teaching from the Bible. This is a teaching from the Bible. God never said that a woman can’t evangelize, or lead people to Christ. God doesn’t want women on the pulpit. And there is a reason for that. Women should not be preaching unto men about how to conduct themselves in their lives. I’m sure there’s more to it but that’s what I gather from it. No where in the Bible does it say for women to not spread the word or do the work of God. It’s simply says for a woman to not be a preacher, or head of a church.
Furthermore 6 things God HATES 7 abomination … haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.
What about the dynamic missionary and speaker Elisabeth Elliot? Context in the Bible is everything. God can call men or women to preach or lead. If he can talk through animals, if he can make the rocks cry out, then of course he can use women to teach his word. Our mothers who helped us get ready for school and prepared our meals is one of our first glimpses of leadership in Christ as they prayed over us. ❤
I was once a pastor in a church. One morning I prayed while repenting for Gal. 5 vs 16 - 21. Especially for outburst of wrath. I then prayed and asked God to show me what a women should be like. He made me and He knows how he expects me to conduct myself. That very morning God revealed to me a women should not teach over a church with males. Two days later I had my last message and explained why I was stepping down. I was crucified my the women in our church. God started giving me scriptures that completely explained everything to me. I will list those below here. Women have there place in the church. God knows why He has put things in this order. May this message reach any women walking in this sin. 🙏
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Galatians 5:16-17, 19-25 KJV bible.com/bible/1/gal.5.16-25.KJV
“And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write, ‘These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass: “I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience; and as for your works, the last are more than the first. Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works. “Now to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will put on you no other burden. But hold fast what you have till I come. And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations- ‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron; They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels’- as I also have received from My Father; “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’ Revelation 2:18-27, 29 NKJV bible.com/bible/114/rev.2.18-29.NKJV
@Pinkdollface I can help you. But you need to be calm and willing to listen. If you want to hear from him, then you need to turn off everything. You want to hear him, and you can't if theres distractions. Gods voice is a still small voice. You are a created being. He created your imagination, your ears, and your spirit, everything about you. 1 Kings 19:11-13 King James Version "11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord. And, behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the Lord was not in the earthquake: 12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice. 13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?" He will speak to you however he pleases. If you are spending time with him, then you may receive a vision if he chooses. It is, though, your thoughts he speaks, or it could be audible. It could be a sign. A sign could be anything. My message I'm giving you here, or a stranger giving you a word of knowledge that's aligned with something you recently prayed about. God is contemporary, a living God. You might have something show up on your social media thats aligned with something you prayed about. However he wishes to speak to you; you will know that it is him. John 10:27-28 King James Version 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. His yoke is light. When he enters the room, the atmosphere literally changes. All you have to do is call out to him. Matthew. 11 Verses 28 to 30 [28] Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. [29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. [30] For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. " Since this is your first time hearing from him, you'll need to apply this test in 1 John 4. Once you hear from any spirit, you must apply this test. God will not be offended. He would rather you be safe than sorry. 1 John 4 King James Version 4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
As for me, I absolutely don't have any problem with women being pastors or leaders in church. God said He will pour out His Spirit on all flesh, and both sons and daughters will prophesy. How do daughters prophesy to God's people if they don't speak at all in church? Remember, that women held leadership roles in Scriptures, right from the Genesis to the Revelation. Deborah, a woman was a judge In Israel, and she led a whole nation, which is way larger than a congregation. Also, Josiah, a little boy became king at eight years old. This is to show that this concept of women not preaching in church is satanic. The church is not a men's cult but the Ecclesia of God, and anyone can function as He permits, regardless of gender. God calls whoever He wills, and empowers whoever he wants. God can use anybody at anytime for whatever purpose He wishes, and we can't do anything about it, he's God. If God can use a donkey to speak to Balaam and little David to defeat Goliath, what the entire Israel was afraid of, why can't he use a woman to lead His church? Don't demonize what God deems appropriate. If you're a woman reading this, and God is calling you to minister, go ahead and don't let the devil use these religiously brainwashed folks to stop you. #EvangelistGlobal
The first Evangelists of the Gospel were women who found the empty tomb and met Jesus. The women went to proclaim the Good News to the men Disciples but the men did not believe. Great example set by the men, would you say. Even Thomas first wanted to inspect the nail scared hands before believing. Paul was merely addressing the cultural context where some women were getting too excited in Church and got out of order. Paul was not addressing it in terms of an absolute doctrine that women cannot preach or become Pastors. Paul did however make clear as a absolute Doctrine that "There is now no more male or female, slave or free, for we are all one in Christ". You are missing a valuable point and a blessing in that it was a woman (Eve) who through her actions brought sin and shame into the world and it was now through the woman who was granted the previlege of finding the empty tomb and having the honour of proclaiming the Good News to the men in order to bring mankind Life. GOD Bless you, you are a great teacher but you are wrong in your view, it is pure heresy that women cannot become Pastors or Preachers or Priests or indeed hold any office in the Church. As with anything including the eating of certain foods or alcohol with some people, you need to be sensitive by allowing women to preach in certain cultures so as not to be a stumbling block but there are no provisions to prohibit women from becoming Pastors.
the bible is clear, women not to teach in church or assurp authority over me,. everything you are saying nonsense and total dis-regard of the commandment, repent woman
Im a woman. And if this is what GOD tells us through his Holy Bible That this is what is right and this is what is wrong Then now I know what is right and what is wrong. I don't ask Mankind to tell me what is right and what is Wrong I ask GOD. SO NOW I KNOW. AMEN.
1 Timothy 2:12 KJV But I suffer j not a woman to teach, nor to usurp k authority over the man, but to be in silence. Here notice paul said I. As in I not jesus. It was custom back then for women to be in complete submission no different then a Muslim country today. This sermon is leaving out the culture and the mindset. Just like Peter rejecting Un clean animals or gentiles
Let's take a look at this. A group of Gentiles coerced into Judaism through Christianity. You don't have a god so you adopted a god. Judaism is telling you you don't know right from wrong because you are a gentile. You don't have to accept Judaism.
Amen amen amen Thanks 4. Ur stand for biblical truth Yes now the holy ghost fire 🔥 😍 🙌 is falling on millions Re : women preachers Man d not hire them n no one cannot fire them God bless u n ur lover ones n 2023
@@adamclark1972uk @Nathanael Thomas give me one verse where God himself said all those things... That women should not preach. Or work for God...... Do u even know d meaning of "Calling"..... Mary, mother of Jesus had a calling to birth Jesus. Esther had a calling, Deborah had hers and many heroic female figures in d bible... The only person that made that statement was Paul and he never gave a clear reason for it.... So how can u assume all these..... Paul also said that d reason he said women should not lead is so that d men can have something to do in d society ..... Imagine a world without men working, it'll be a world full of crimes and atrocities..... It's not because women destroy d church... Stop trying to attach d statement with negative meaning. Read d bible well
I had to struggle with at one point. BUT after studying for a degree in theology down here in South Africa at George Whitefield College , I have come to understand how God has designed the structure of the Church. Am happy to serve God and still share God's Word in areas that do not challenge the authority of Scripture. For example , with this theological degree as woman , you can still serve in Biblical counselling , kids ministry , missions ( but still being led by men ) , Campus ministry, teens ministry, leading ladies Bible studies , sharing God's Word on a one to one with other ladies , music ministry , writing...It is not just about the puppet , the least is endless I guess in my opinion .
Someone gets it! God bless you for you obedience to His word. As a Woman myself I don’t u sweat and the draw and desire to pastor. It’s a clear command from God that we’re not permitted to speak in a church in a congregation. To lead a congregation. And why would we? Most women have children, I can’t imagine trying to “lead” a church and also trying to disciple my children. I feel like I would fail my children for this supposed “calling”. And I’m even if I didn’t have children, the Bible is clear, it’s about obedience. Women who pastor simply lack humility, and are prideful. No matter what scriptures you show then they will twist it for their favor. I have yet to hear a female pastor teach solid biblical doctrine.
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I disagree. Paul said in the last days we are neither male or female, blond or free. If you study history, Phoebe was a pastor. Paul corrected a specific church for wo men who were uneducated, disrupting the service from men who were more qualified Phyllis and Aquilla were partners in ministry.
Neither male And Female,talking about Salvation,Phoebe was no pastor but helper,no deaconess, because men are deacons and qualifications of deacons is husband 1 wife ,priscillia and Aquila was husband and wife,they helped Paul and they were tent makers
It was because of a WOMAN that I became a Christian & learned about Jesus. She disciples me for over a year until I learn all the foundations of Christianity & having a relationship with Jesus. In other words thank God she didn’t follow the rules 🤍
I have a few questions: Are you male or female? Was she preaching in church or did she come up to you on the street/daily life. How do you understand 'discipling'? What does that include in your case?
Pretty sure that part of corintheans was specific to the scenario, where a group of women were disrupting service with lots of questions instead of waiting until the end
That’s exactly what the excerpt was about but that’s what happens when people read the Bible out of context and don’t study the WOG. There are plenty of women in the Bible at the time mentioned by Apostle Paul that ministered. It’s sad how “people [will] perish for the lack of knowledge”
The word of God transcends Time and Culture. God spoke through the Apostle directly and Universal. Culture doesn't dictate the word of God! The word of God dictate the Culture!
I agree, but women can praise God out loud and pray out loud. When Paul said to be silent, there were specific churches where the women were becoming unruly. Doesn't mean. Women have to sit in complete silence with their heads bowed low. They're free in christ. Means they should be humble and let the man do what God has called to do, which is lead.
@@trevrockrock16 so women are not allowed to sing and praise in the church according to you i understand they shouldn't be pastors and shepherd the sheep but no where in the bible are women forbidden to sing and praise
Remember we are not a religion, we are sons and daughters of God Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
My mother was a born again pastor and all my childhood and adolescent life I went through so much trauma. She lead her congregation first and motherly duties last and my father remained emasculated and meek. My father until this day does not lead, wouldn’t know how to and my husband now is picking up the pieces. It’s so important for men and women to respect the roles that God made especially in the church.
@@gus.tractman.williams4442 You do not know what you're talking about. For all of church history, except the last 100 or 50 years, it was well established that women could not be pastors or priests. My statements have scriptural basis. It says clearly in the Bible. God doesn't permit a woman to teach or have spiritual authority over men. Women are to remain silent in churches. It is what it is. Christianity isn't egalitarian, whether you like it or not.
Sorry, but if my mom kept silent and left everything to her husband, I don’t think I would’ve even made it to adulthood let alone be a person following Christ today. God can use whoever he wants wherever he wants. we need to stop putting Him in a box
You are mistaken. The meaning was that to not preach in a way of authority given to that of a man like Hosea or Elijah. We can share the gospel but was not given authority by God.
@@Aguyfrom225 No. For better insight a good read to the Scriptures would give you answers to this. Both Old and New Testament plays an important role for all of us in our daily lives. I hope reading it with full understanding will lead you towards the Real Truth of Life. Have a good day.
The worst part is that people are listening to a man and not God. Paul is the one who says they cannot, he never said the Lord or God, he said “I” people need to wake up and realize what they are reading. You say it’s the word of God I say it’s the word of man.
@@antonymuriuki3492 we're all servants and royal priests indeed but we're not all pastors set aside to shepherd and oversee the flock (local church) read 1 TIM 3 and 1 PETER 5.
@@urbanvoice5323Have studied all the chapters but don't see where women have been forbidden to pastor.All Christians have the same spirit from our father in Heaven and if the Holy spirit does choose a lady to pastor who are we to question him.study Joel (2:28....)
@@antonymuriuki3492 no disrespect then i don't think you've studied it enough. You might need to look at what a text of scripture means in its context and what its implications are. Rather than reading into the text what you may subconsciously want it to say. Joel 2:28 has no correlation or bearing with 1 Tim 3, Titus 1 its talking about a different issue.
““But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die. “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair? When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies in it, it is because of the iniquity which he has done that he dies.” Ezekiel 18:24-26 NKJV
It wasn't a command of God but a culture thing with Paul. How can women be prophets if they can't preach. And how can they not be pastors if the the church is not a building? Rightly divide.
@@jdaze1. I'm my over 40 years of knowing women preachers only on one was r prophet U do not have a understanding of the gifts of the spirit Without the holy ghost no one cannot understand any biblical nor spiritual things Millions t In dead churches playing churche n lost as a snow ball in the fire 🔥
@@jdaze1it's not a cultural issue because he appeals to the creation order as an argument, which transcends culture. Prophecy is simply not the same category as overseer, it's never portrayed this way in the Bible. The universal Church is not the local body. The Bible says both exist.
@@mbalitshabalala03 tradition says that the women were not understanding and were asking questions and distracting when the word was being preached,hence “ let them ask their husbands”later at home.
Sharing the good news is the responsibility of every saved person, but to lead a church is different because they lead the body of believers, those already saved, as they grow in their faith.
@@allforYAHUAH it’s also the responsibility of someone leading a church to obey the word of God,not pick what you want to obey or try to explain why you don’t obey.
I was talking with myself yesterday ( yes, myself lol ) about the kind of marriage i pray God designs for me because as a woman in this society i use to be misguided on what my role was, i wasn't taught that the roles for men and woman weren't there to hurt me. But i came to a realization. Thinking about my role and a mans role, Focusing on what it means to be the woman of God. I realized something about Adam and Eve, God created Adam first, but what dawned on me was really thinking about who actually knows how long it was just Adam and God before he created Eve, so what i got from that for myself was that Adam had a longer and meaningful relationship with God and he was in a higher position than Eve aside from what God already placed on Adam. Eve came after, she was there to be a help mate to Adam. When i think about that i realize my role as a woman is not bad. I desire to have a Man of God who knows Him in such a way that there's no room for me to become a " teacher " in a role made for men. since God created Adam first, I desire for my Husband to know Christ more than I, understanding that I need to have my own relationship but God can use me in ways that are specifically for me.
For women not to speak and it be ashamed for women to speak in a church was written specifically for the city of Corinth. Corinth was dealing with a lot of carnal issues including women asking their husbands questions out loud in church and talking among each other.
Yes exactly. I don't like how men specifically have continued to bend God's word to put women in bondage. But God will always open our eyes. I'm a lady and I'm going to be a pastor whoever likes it or not. Isn't it funny how many things in the bible men have changed to suite them. I will be a pastor and I will lead a church
@@life-live- you have to apply proper hermeneutics. Each letter was written to specific churches regarding specific situations. You have to understand the purpose and background of each letter. You should really get into school so you can understand what you're reading beloved. Learn how to rightly divide the word of God.
@@esomitojenina2249you need to repent of your blatant objection to plain biblical truth. You sound like your priorities are more important to you than the Word of God.
Then I guess your not called called to prophecy Gods word. And you're not part of the church because the "church" simply means called out 9nes. Its not a building.
In 1st century Jewish culture, which is the era when Paul and Timothy wrote those words, women were not allowed to read and study the Tora. Thus, they were to remain silent at worship and ask their husbands questions at home so as to not disrupt service. Nowadays, women are allowed to read and study the Tora and the Bible and preach if God calls them and anoints them to do so. That man is a liar!
He is heavily stuck in religion and salvation through work (not like the catholics tho, and at first you don't see that because he is preaching TULIP and Calvinism). Plain and simple like that. I always wondered why his Church and ministry has even Grace in it's name for his preaching is legalism at it's best and I know what I am talking about because God has delivered me out of THAT like he delivered Israel out of Egypt. God bless.
The very fact that there's such opposition against women proves their importance in this hour! Didn't God himself say that the seed of a woman will crush the head of the enemy?! My seed has a voice and I will plant, sow, harvest, and birth my seed whenever and wherever God says to! God will not be silenced in this hour!! 🙌
There are strong woman of God pastoring because somewhere a man of God said no to Gods calling! Woman are just as anointed and on fire to preach and teach Gods word. Corrie Ten Boom, Kathryn Khulman to name a few teaching for many years back!
@@laurencastillo9741 “And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.” I Timothy 2:12 NKJV “Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.” I Corinthians 14:34-35 NKJV Take this up with God, don’t get mad at me
So this is what happens when you don’t study the context of the scriptures. When Paul speaks to the Corinthians about women not speaking in the congregation, he was actually reprehending woman for understanding the teachings of Jesus Christ, but still asking silly questions in the middle of the service. Paul is not saying that women are prohibited to preach the word of the Lord, and there is no verse in the Bible that says “women cannot be pastors”. What Paul was pointing out was the intention behind those comments and questions women were shouting, for they were challenging the authority of the Corinthians church leaders. If there were an actual verse about not being pastors, it would say that no person is worthy of that position. Lets stop with the fanatical, extra religious thinking. None of us is worthy of sharing the Lord’s word, but it was by grace that we all have the assignment of preaching and make disciples for Christ to glorify God Father. It is not feminism, as it is not patriarchal thinking. We are all children of God by grace and we all are called to serve Him. So much discrepancy about women being or not being pastors, and there has been thousands of “pastors” that have robbed their congregations, lied, utilized, abused, and so much degrading actions. The majority? Men.
God calls who he CALLS, to achieve his work, HIS will.... Clarifying not to preach he used many great women from the Bible Rebecca several others that he used to get his will prove to the in the earth not to preach that he used my new women
Yeahovaah, the Bible is my only truth in life and will be in death. If you’re really saved you will dodge the demon trying to counter influence you from the Bible miss collins. Be blessed.
Amen, it is the same pride and disobedience that drove Eve to sin and disobey God. Ability to execute a vocation has nothing to do with the fact God did not ordain women for this role, period.Just as the serpent inquired of Eve, Did God really say...? Women erroneously point to gender equality as the reason to become preachers instead of submitting to their God given roles in the church.
Oh really? And who was the one with Eve, standing there and saying nothing while she was eating? And he himself ate! Adam! It was Adam! Let's not elevate the one above the other. None of the scriptures concerning the matter of women preaching in the churches is deffinite about the subject. Context is king.
I don’t even understand why women and men are working so hard against this. Being a pastor comes with great responsibility and lots of temptations and hard times. Women have so many other things to contribute with in a church, so “why” are we so stubborn to be pastors? God can use you in other great ways. I personally belive that women are supposed to serve in other ways like praying for the people, worshipping god, taking care of the assembly, and i believe that women should be a witness of Jesus outside as well. The thing is the church isn’t just supposed to be a nice place where you go and eat and talk to people and worship the lord. The church is also a place where the enemy attacks, and sometimes the government, and the church is a place where the leaders have to make tough decisions and lead the people well. And there is something beautiful about being the silent one, you will be able to see people in another way, serve people in another way, you will be able to pray ( and praying is powerful ) you will be able to serve and honor God the way he intended for us. It doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t speak kindly to others or never answer if we are spoken to it just means that we should have a quit spirit and not be trying to take leader rolls like the men do. I don’t judge anyone I was a leader in church for almost a year, I now see a lot of things behind the scenes and I trust that God knows what’s best. But honestly I do believe women are allowed to teach just not for men, rather young women and be a role model for them, I just believe that the lord loves his women very dearly, he doesn’t say things to make us feel less worthy. He is a God of order, and he has decided that this is the model for the church. Women are very important as well and we can’t forget that, our kindness and softness along with our strong faith can be a huge impact in peoples lives.
@@ardbegthequestion maybe, but that don’t mean women wouldn’t influence the church with other things such as new age stuff which women are way more interested in than men, which is very serious. Women also are the ones bringing in feminism and other non christian ideologies. And to be fair we don’t know if sexual sin would have decreased if women were pastors. I know about a scandal here in Sweden, not so far away from where i live. Where the female pastor was cheating on her husband, having orgies and killed a person so she could be with this particular man in church. Women bring sexual sin into the church too because humans are imperfect. Yeah sure the sexes have different tendencies, but I still think we should obey Gods word the best we can, and if he says no female pastors so be it.
@@Linden_alicia - yeah, sure make up whatever you want. Woman bad, man good. My CEO is a woman and mysteriously in the secular world, women seem to do just fine without all the bizarre issues that seem to be invoked; at least not at any rate higher than issues with men - power plays, sexual misconduct, alcoholism - whatever way we want to create strawpeople. Please, just admit this is all about ego. Women are inferior and you don’t like that they are getting more access to the table. I mean if the Bible culture was still valid, we’d own our women.
We are spirit beings. Our true identity comes from our spirit. Gender can't stop a woman from preaching. During Jesus ministry on earth several women went on preaching about God like Mary Magdalene, Samaritan woman and many more. The good news of Jesus can't be limited by a gender of the person. Jesus said go into all the world and preach the gospel Amen 🙌
In. Dead churches yes but. N. Full gospel churches. We. See revival raising. Up The. Fire. Fire 🔥 📛 👨🚒 🚒 of. God. Will. Not. B. Quince As. Example. [ look. 2 China. With. Millions. Of. Holy. Ghost. Christians]
@@gus.tractman.williams4442 True faith results in obedience. Women that preach are disobeying God therefore show that they haven't faith. "If you love Me, obey My commandments." John 14:15.
@@johnnymiller7322yesss. Those without d|ck cannot read and teach book written by mighty d|ck. D|ckless may not teach D|ck book to the D|ck and D|ckless. D|ck know best. D|ck make you smart. D|ck make you ruler. D|ckless must sit in silence. D|ck is leader. Must possess and control all D|ckless. Dickless is evil satan witch. D|ckless weak. Must oppress all d|ckless. D|ckless is servant. D|ck is God. Must bow to D|ck. Obey D|ck.
Imagine if no women were teaching!! God gave me a ministry, literally handed it to me.. trained me for 7 yrs. woke me up and gave me the name. I’m gonna do what He has commanded me to do!!! 🙏🏽 JEREMIAH 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.
I heard the original language is better translated as 'chatter '. Women like to talk, it's known. It's asking women not to gossip or speak during the sermon, instead listen. I also believe that a female preacher or evangelist is more likely to be physically attacked or spoken over by unruly men. More likely to have her feelings hurt or belief shaken if the crowd rebels against her. More likely to be spoken negatively about by uncivilised people. I personally like that it's not my responsibility to preach in public. Men should take that risk. But I also don't believe that women aren't allowed to speak at all, especially when protected by a strong line of men who honour her. Traditionally, women would be having the majority of spiritual influence on their children and communities. Teaching and spending all day with them. Whereas in reality, it might be the only time during the week that men got to speak to them. As they'd be spending dawn till dusk outside the home, working on the farm or similar. And mostly too exhausted to exert real spiritual influence over their family afterwards. It was giving men a chance to speak at all. Now that parenting roles are a lot more equal than they used to be, I'm not sure it's 100% applicable anymore. Perhaps women shouldn't be pastors, but perhaps men should be out in the sun breaking their backs all day as well.
Thank you for searching for grace. His interpretation is actually incorrect . The Bible in this case uses the word Women to refer to wives. The Greek word is "gunee" which means a women who is a wife. A wife should not be over her man trying to instruct him in church but should represent man's submission to Christ learning in all submission, piety, and quiteness. When is the last time we have quitely submitted to God and listened? Or why don't we seek to really understand God's Character in Christ? Perhaps then we would have already known this lesson. We would have also read this scripture (and no scripture can be set aside): In the spirit: There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, *nor is there male and female* , for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28 NIV The word female in this case is "Thelus" which mean all women, not "gunee" which mean women who are wives. If Paul wanted to consider all women he would have said Thelus not gunee. So be there is neither male or female in the spirit, God does not forbid a Female to teach, but for a wife to hold and wield God like authority over "the man", or otherwise the husband, which is not the order of his Word. We must rightly divide the word, may you Go in peace, and He will forgive us for the small misstep. @Omar Sheriff Kaptan The Strongs Concordance is simply the definition of the Greek words that were used to write the King James Version. The King James Version was translated from the "Masoretic Text" and original Greek version. Do you believe the King James Version is inspired? Also other examples for you. (Sorry I misunderstood your previous message) I thought you were quoting old testament: 1 Timothy 3:11 still uses the word Gunee but this time it says Wife. The Greek word hasn't changed, but the interpreters tried to get a more complex language, Greek, and put it in the very simplified language of English and it lost some of its nuance, but it did not lose it's power for those who use the Spirit. 1 Timothy 5:14 uses the word "neos" and it's translated as "Young Women" (who have not been married). So Paul is very educated in his Greek, you can trust he means what he says. *And here is the most important context of your answer* If Paul said in 1 Timothy 2:14-15: And Adam was not deceived, but the *woman* ... fell into transgression. The word here for woman again is gunee. Was not Eve Adam's wife? Sorry for the translators. Then the word says: Nevertheless *she will be saved in childbearing* if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control. I Timothy 2:15 NKJV How could all women be saved in childbearing? Only Wives can be saved in childbearing. Not all women will bear children. So when Paul uses Gunee he is writing a letter to Timothy for his work ministering to married women and men in Ephesus, as well as ministering to all others. Thanks be to God we can use the letter to better understand the Character and Desire if God and make it fit within our own lives even 2 thousand years later. Hope that help clarifies the issue. It is nuanced, but not veiled if you research. I am sorry that the Translators made these small translation decisions. But it works for our Good for those who fear The Lord. With Love. Here to answer sincere questions. Thanks be to Jesus!
Yup they were worshippers of female god and kept interrupting service. You’d think anyone with two brain cells would ask how can a woman be both silent in church and also give prophecy in church? This guy is a perfect example of being led by your own mind and not the Spirit. Modern day Pharisees. He has been publicly rebuked over and over but still goes on teaching dead religion and bashing the gifts of the Spirit.
The context of women not speaking in churches is because at that time the Corinthian women use to come in church and talk one with another about everything going on in their home; including their sex lives. It was disruptive and so that's why they were told to be silent in the church. They were disrupting the full of the Holy Spirit. The first person the spread Jesus' word was the woman at the well. He sent her to prophesy personally.
There’s no problem with women spreading the gospel, even kids can do that. But to be a pastor over a church, where your more a Shepard with authority isn’t permitted by women
@@Gm-ok1zb i think men just don't want to give authority to women, and that is different :) I believe my God knows and loves more and would never be sexiest.
@@Gm-ok1zb i will and i will pray for you to wake up at some point from this delusions too. God would be happy to hear about your development as a human.
Amen! I am a pastor's wife, and I agree with him. We as women can serve in a different way, even if we have the gift of teaching. We should hold Titus 2 and not what the world is on trend. Rom 12:2
If the Holy Spirit moves me to talk about Jesus with someone I’m doing it . Plain and simple and i whole heartedly believe God would not hold that against me . Edit : never said I was going to lead a church but when and if the Holy Spirit lays it on my heart to share the gospel I will. Stop questioning MY faith . You don’t know me . Take out the speck in your own eye first to those that are immediately judging me cause you obviously didn’t read what i wrote before going off on me . I understand the role of a pastor is for a man to fill . BUT if the HOLY SPIRIT tells me to witness to someone I WILL . And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
You can share the gospel outside of church person to person, but the role of pastor, the Lord has placed on the shoulders of men. It's not about capability but obedience to show our love for him. He has given all his servants a way to serve. And you can miss out on yours trying to do someone elses.
Lorey, it’s not what you believe because that is where the problem begins. Our thinking is faulty that’s why we obey God. Period. We need to Stop following our hearts because our hearts are deceitful. Just obey God, trust him, and read his word. Just because something feels a certain way it doesn’t mean that’s what God wants for you. God bless. Btw, I’m not putting you down or anything just explaining about following God’s word.
He won’t hold it against you but the ones misinterpreting the scriptures most definitely will. So follow God or follow men who follow tradition, bias, prejudice, and fear… which one will it be? Choosing God is always the right way to go. The Holy Spirit is our teacher, our director, our counselor, and so much more. He will never lead you to violate the Scriptures and telling people about Jesus fulfills the command to go into all the world and share the gospel. Go girl, go with the leading of the Holy Spirit and forget about the ones who tell you can’t simply because of your gender. The description of the Holy Spirit as our helper is the same word used to describe Eve in Genesis. It’s interesting that the Holy Spirit often has been treated as a ‘lesser’ Person of the Godhead, even though He, too, is God. Women also seem to be treated as ‘less than’ even though Eve was taken out of Adam’s side and God told both Adam and Eve to have dominion over all things. What we’re experiencing is a result of the fall from Grace, not God’s original blueprint for mankind. The Bible tells us to study to show ourselves approved. Without the revelation and teaching of scripture through the Holy Spirit, we’ll lack the insight and understanding of scripture and interpret it through our fallen nature, not through the lens of accuracy and truth that only the Holy Spirit can provide.
Same book speaks to both men and women as prophets and speaking in tongues. We must take off the veil of religion and allow Holy Spirit to lead and guide us.
I’m a woman and I’m a preacher. I don’t preach because I just one day woke up and wanted to. I preach because God called me to and if I don’t, I would be living in rebellion. God calls those who are willing. You only have ONE scripture taken out of context to show women supposedly can’t preach but there are MANY that prove otherwise. I see disregarding the rest of God’s word as rebellion. This is why we need the baptism of the Holy Spirit. He is the Spirit of truth and those who are filled with His spirit can read the word with a deeper understanding. I’m not a feminists, and I definitely am a submissive wife, but I’m also a preacher called by God. Why did He fill me with His Spirit and anoint me to preach if He didn’t want me to?
There aren't Scriptures that say women can preach. The Bible mentions a female judge, deaconess, and several prophetesses. These aren't pastors. A woman delivering a specific message is not a pastor.
So why do I get Dreams about being called Into ministry Preaching gospel prophesying deliever People ? My dreams is from God. And i trust his divine Revelations. I dont know about a woman should have the title pastor , but I Believe women can be evangelist and prophetess and have ministry
@@Feliciaa1992 Your dreams and your beliefs supersedes the Bible? A formal title and an established venue isn't necessary to share the Gospel. The Gospel can be shared informally. There are very knowledgeable men that share the Gospel across multiple platforms, including in-person, though they have no official title or position.
@@coolbreeze6532 God speaks through dreams not Only the Word. And I know when my dreams is from God Bc of discernment. I dont think a woman should be title pastor but a woman can minister to People with the Gifts from God
@@Feliciaa1992 Every Christian can share the word with both believers and unbelievers. Minister means "to serve." So by all means, serve. Church leadership is reserved for men. Calling oneself an evangelist while performing the duties of a pastor most likely still violates. Calling oneself a prophet is even riskier.
Imagine the amount of people that would have missed the message and fallen astray had a woman kept silent my mom is the most powerful person of God I know and our church leader Rev. B.r. Hicks dedicated her life til the day she died to giving God all the glory I'm sorry but no I respectfully disagree
@@hijohojo2868 Are you sure about that? I suggest you read those specific scriptures in their context and consider that when Jesus came, he didn't make such distinctions between the sexes.
@@Mimi-xy1tu He Did specifically.. that is why there is no female apostles. Why wasn't Mary Magdalene One?? We hear about her more than some of the other apostles such as Phillip. Yet, she wasn't giving the office.. there is a reason for that. Woman are not to be pastors. That is disobeying the word of God then giving justification for that act of disobedience.
Super interesting to see so many people bothered or against this. The Bible states this so why the debate, this is like homosexuality yall just what to serve Father how y’all want to. Completely disregarding his his statutes and commands. Just observing the comments! We are to be set apart, Qodeshim, also He gives us a choice but we don’t get the option of serving Him however we please. Pray talk to Father and read your Bible for yourself
And Kathryn Kuhlman is like Brother whattt... It makes you then wonder why God uses these same Women to carry the manifest presence of God if its "forbidden".. 🤔
Yup but guys like this have dead religious spirits. They lean on their own understanding and what a school told them something means. You’d think even a child would ask how can women be silent in church and also give prophecy in church? Almost like it’s not meaning what you t would seem. These women were worshippers of Diane and kept distrusting service. It’s obviously not saying a women should be silent, not worship, not give prophecy, etc.
Kathryn Kuhlman carried a spirit, but it wasn’t Holy. She was a deceiver and she was deceived, herself. She never preached Scripture, rather she “preached” on her experiences, channeling a spirit of unknown source and power
@@KristiLEvans1 You are talking nonsense, you are the one misguided and I wonder how arrogant and ignorant you jugde Kathryn Kuhlman. Listen to Sid Roth and his first talk with Kathryn Kuhlman, a wonderful example for her pure loving heart for Jesus and the people...
@@KristiLEvans1 Really? So..Satan himself loved to see people healed? K.K. was preaching and healing in jesus name and yet it was an unknown spirit?? A very wise man once said "A house divided against itself cannot stand". It's not even logical to credit the Holy Spirit's works to Satan. What does he gain by people being healed and set free? Not sure which doctrine you follow but the Pharisees said the EXACT same thing about Jesus and in response he had a lot to say to them. So If I were you I'd be very careful about what you say about people, because you may very well be unintentionally condemning the Holy Spirit.
The Church is not a men's club or cult where only men rule and women are slaved. The church is the Ecclesia of God, and God appoints whoever He chooses. Period!
if you find God's Order and way of doing things as "slavery"then you are not obedient to His will. There is a reason He came as a man who led and descipled and would be the saviour.
@@sibusisiwendlangisa970 That's not even God's order to start with, but was Paul's opinions, and Paul was a man, not God. Did Jesus ever restrict women from serving God? Were there not female rulers, judges, prophetesses and evangelists before Jesus walked the Earth? Which other Apostle apart from Paul told women not to function in church? Jesus even had female disciples and women who served him in the Gospels. Realise that Paul was an imperfect man who made mistakes and it's all written in his epistles. Also, he wasn't a disciples of Jesus but a persecutor which Jesus had to convert. So before you take Paul's words as doctrine, first of all examine it with other Apostles and Jesus Himself.
@@evansglobal11 Corinthians 14:37 reads: "If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment."
@@rickastley472. God doesn't contradict himself, but people do, and Paul was a prime example of such. He rebuked Peter, an elder in Galatians and later said we shouldn't rebuke elders but rather intreat them. He brought this Spiritual father theology but yet in 1 Corinthians 1:10 he contradicted it himself.
I am not comfortable with a woman pastor, I am also not comfortable with the good ole boys. I’m not comfortable with men telling women to shut up or go home. If you want to lead the church STEP UP & LEAD! Do not support abuse, do not cover for one another, do not be the abuser. Two names sun it up: 1. Jesus 2. Eileen Gray Until the men in the church can own their mistakes, publicly say “sorry I was wrong” They have no right to complain about the women stepping into their shoes name Eileen Gray
Romans 16:1 (NIV) "I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae." Other translations use "servant" instead of "deacon" but the word in the Hebrew Bible is "shammash." Which is servant but refers to a "salaried sexton; a salaried sexton in a Jewish synagogue whose duties now generally include secretarial work and assistance to the cantor, or hazan, who directs the public service." Now i am not sure if directs the public service means preach or just organize the proceedings of the service.
Yes women are allowed to teach, but only with a man as the head of the congregation, or as a spiritual head over them in Ministry. This is because the authority of a man makes it difficult for the devil to influence/manipulate, that's why satan went to eve in eden and not adam. There's absolutely nothing wrong with holding the mic to preach God's word, But women don't have rights in The body of Christ to "Establish Doctrines". Two different things.
Not true. Women are to be silent in the churches. 1 Corinthians 14:33-36: "33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?"
Please read the passage he cited and keep going. He is taking this out of context which can be clearly seen in the next sentence where the women were to instead, ask their husbands at home. These were not women vying for the pulpit and the women here were clearly not learned enough (as was typical in that time) to teach on the faith. They were clearly being disruptive in some way so they were told to be quiet and ask their husbands at home. This passage is often used erroneously. That is why I point it out. Make the point from a passage that is actually talking about the issue.
The problem is that it isn't her husband church but God's Chrurch and everything has to be donz in God's way. It's not about capacity but obedience to the Word of God
She petitioned her husband. She submitted to his will ultimately. She didn’t preach in the church or synagogue and exercise authority over her husband.
Ephesians 5:21 - “Be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ.” faith, … There is neither Jew nor Greek, male nor female, slave nor free, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
@@TheAnointedSinger No it isn't. You have to realize that the Creator is KING and we are not. So we must obey his word, He doesn't have to obey our word.
I am a former female pastor, and yes, former because by the grace of God, He opened my eyes to see His words and gave me grace to submit and obey. Do I have regrets? Absolutely, NO. Why? Because this is not about me anymore, THIS IS ABOUT THE GLORY OF GOD. ❤
what do you think about the verse ?
We owe it all to our Lord Jesus Christ. We spend time conversing and arguing across America because of equal rights. God is not about equal rights. In the parable of the men given the 3 talents. The body of Christ has these talents and not all are called to be preachers, deacons or ministers. We can service the ministry in a wide variety of areas.
What! You're wrong amd so is he
@@sparnt117Please, provide the scriptures that support what you believe on this subject.
@@sparnt117Give Bible verses that support your belief that a woman can have preach or have authority over a man.
He is not saying women cant be witnesses to others. And serve God. We are all called to. He is talking about being the Pastor of a congregation
There is a woman pastor at our church who is a missionary and no husband who opened 35 churches, all her life serving the lord. She is a witness and a vessel.
Yes Corinthian women were licentious, bullies, heathens so Paul had to address them in a general way. You all take one scripture and make an entire sermon against God-fearing called and chosen women to ministry. You all need to look at the context of what the culture of that chirch was.
How about the scriptire says that there's no Jew nor gentile and no gender in God's eyes? No, Im not a pastor nor am I for 100 genders, only male & female as far as earthly flesh goes. Now you do you and I do me since ne9ther you are responsible for my soul nor I for yours. We all have opinions and only G9d knows the heart of a person. He called me 9ut of darkness and He leads me into the paths of righteousness--never needed a preacher nor a pastor to help me in my walk and ministry in the Kungdom of God.
@@ChristianMartinezMUSICIs she a missionary or a pastor? How was she planting churches? Please a little more details. A woman can witness to people but she can't pastor a church.
@@ChristianMartinezMUSICjust because someone is associated with a "Christian" church doesn't mean they are saved doesn't mean they aren't children of the devil
@@john318john yes, she is both a missionary and pastor sharing the Gospel all over south and North America. God can use anyone. She planted many churches in the poor suburbs.
Women can minister to women but should not lead the whole church...It's a Man's job to lead the congregation! Ty for preaching the TRUTH
Women can lead children also
I’m confused by this because if we’re supposed to be silent in the church doesn’t that mean any and all teaching in the church
@@Hisdaughter95Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say women should not preach. God can use anyone.
@@Hisdaughter95I would say that if you truly have a passion and gift for teaching others, you should serve in children's ministry or maybe try to be a mentor to young women trying to grow in Christ.
That's partially true. Titus 2:3-5: "3The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed."
So many seem to be confusing the role of pastor and the role of witness. All Christian’s have an obligation to witness but the Bible is clear that a “pastor” is to be a man.
Amen
oh wow, I didn't know this PLEASE provide the scriptures where this is found.
Thank you
In the last days, God said I will pour out my spirit on all people. Your sons and your Daughters will prophesy… Joel 2:28. While I enjoy this discussion, but much of what people are hooked on here is religion…and not the will of God. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven!
Not the same as preaching and leading a church.
@@rachelwinter1404 prophecy means to speak edification, exhortation and comfort to the church. Read 1 cor 12 and 1 cor 14:5. These are both in context to the gathered assembly.
Brittany u r. Right? On the. Word
Priscilla. N Aquila. [ women] were prophets in. Bible
Some. R so blind. 2 the word
Someone. Once. Said[ when. The. Blind. Lead. The blind. Both will. Fall. N. A. Ditch]
@@rachelwinter1404 still not a pastor… aka elder aka you are an example of why😮
Brother. Good verse
Since it says [ daughters will prophecy ] how can. They b silent. N. B. A prophet of. God????
So their voice must n. Usedx for this
Love to 2. U. N ur loved. Ones
This is why reading the Bible without context and the Holy Spirit can be very misleading.
True, but there is nothing about the written command for women to be silent that needs any context or clarity...it's very simple, a child doesn't need clarification on this issue. Opposition to obedience to sound doctrine and the very clear command is the take away.
@@redcollardollar4235 Have you ever been inside a Jewish synagogue? Have you seen the sitting arrangements? Also in Revelations when Jesus rebuked He never mentioned anything about women preaching, He only rebuke them for allowing the woman who had a Jezebel spirit because she was seducing ppl. If the issue was her gender Jesus would have been upfront about it.
The Bible needs context and the Spirit of God otherwise Satan also knows how to mislead using the word. He did it to Eve he tried it with Jesus, but Jesus understood context. Solomon said seek wisdom, understanding and good counsel.
@@ogochukwuuba1774 If a pastor called himself Apostle it raises a red flag run away from that church. Apostles were appointed by Christ, seen Christ or appointed by the Apostles. Example, replacement of Judas after his death. Apostle Paul another example.
@@ogochukwuuba1774 Why do you think I should listen to him? Like I said I'm not a person who listen to any person that called themselves an Apostle. I grew up in the same country in the commercial city
Misleading the Spirit of God?
It's hard to find a church that believes in the Bible !!!
And which church did compile the bible?
@@SebastianHernandez-gt3rj God used Ciaphas to prophecy not because of Ciaphas being righteous but because of the position he held. Ciaphas prophesied but believed not in Christ.
Can women share the gospel with others? Yes
Can women hold a position of authority over a man in Church or pastor a church? No. Absolutely not.
There is a difference between telling people about Jesus and how He died on the cross for your sins and that those who repent and believe will have everlasting life, AND teaching a body of people about the Bible in church.
If God says it’s wrong, your opinion doesn’t matter. There’s a reason why the word of God says. That the heart is deceitful. Your hearts desires should equate to God’s desires. And if they don’t, you are in the wrong. Not God.
God never said it's wrong for women to pastor a church, Apostle Paul said so. And Paul is a man. God is not a man.
@@evansglobal1Where the heck did you come up with such an observation?
@@evansglobal1Then consider the whole Bible as "man-made" and reject it. Because after all, all writers that contributed to all books were men of God. God never litteraly written from hims-... Oh wait, you still have the 10 commandments left, that were written on a rock by God himself! Good luck studying those. Hope you could keep being biblically accurate. 😃
@@UrBrudda123 The Bible makes it clear the difference between man's opinion and God's commands. Apostle Paul like any other man made his mistakes and corrected most of them in his epistles. The Bible is a great book but it contains both the words of God, the deeds of man and the works of the devil.
@@evansglobal1 You might as well do what @moczs comment said.
When he says for women to be silent in the church, it means not to gossip or be distracting.. Some of the teachers Paul sent out to give his message were women.. Women can be teachers, they can witness just like men.
If God didn't want them to teach he wouldn't have given them any wisdom thank you Joyce Meyer keep on keeping on
You should be careful because you've not read the word of God close enough. Paul is the one who actually said that women are not to teach or assert authority over a man, it says it several times in the Bible, you need to read the whole Bible to find out that women are not supposed to preach but be submissive to their husband. If they don't understand something they're supposed to ask their husband when they get home. It's not about gossiping because no one is supposed to do that, you need to learn your Bible a little bit better and stop misleading people.
@@richardhicks9914 I never said women should be Pastors, but they can teach if they have the wisdom from God.. Just because a man preaches doesn't mean he's always right, he may interpret the Bible wrong himself. That's why we all need to ask God for discernment... And I'm just curious, do you feel that anyone who has been saved through the teaching of a woman doesn't have true Salvation? and I'm genuinely asking, not trying to start anything lol.. I was brought up being taught women have no place at the altar except to lead worship, but after listening to Pastor Arnold Murray some years ago my view has changed.
@@richardhicks9914 Okay. Thanks for the insight. Follow up question please: what about women without husbands because it appears that in the context of the passages read alone, this was directed at married women (i.e. women with husbands)?
@@DeeDee-pv3ge please don't be silly, look up all of what it says about women not preaching, it's not that hard it's very simple to find, only silly people don't try hard enough and if you don't try to find the truth you never will find it, that's where everybody gets led astray, it's because they don't seek it.
As a pastor in Africa for some time now, I have seen women carrying the gospel and running with it faster and harder than men
Edit: Let's also consider that currently, the world is still grappling with issues of gender. Imagine what it was like +/-1950 years ago when Paul wrote that letter. Remember he also gave instructions to slaves and slave owners but the church has found a way of navigating that in the modern day.
So the same for women pastors/bishops, there is objective evidence that they can produce results as bishops if given the right support. Let's at least think about it.
Thanks brother 4 standing 4 all that carry the gospel that jesus died all
May all of God's blessings with u. N. Yr. Loved ones in 2023
Cool. Do they carry and spread 1 Timothy? Or just other parts of the gospel?
@@thomasjefferson5727
Yes they. R full gospel so they.do not pick n choose the parts they' agree with
agree wtg
Doesn't make it right !
@@christdriven8790
Chill out. God called annointed women r
Following God's plan 2 lead manklmm
My father asked us why we left our church in Peters Creek. We told him that the church changed. Our pastor believes in women preachers. I asked my dad, "If God places the man as the head of the house. How can a woman be the head of God's house." It made no sense to me. My father believes what God says as well.
1 Corinthians 14:33-36 King James Version (KJV)For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1 Timothy 2:10-15 KJV
but (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
I agree with you
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.- Gal 3:28
- There were no women priests in bible but there are women prophetesses. The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy.
Don't discount God's ability to raise up women to do the job if the men wont rise to the occasion.
Jesus's interaction with women were shocking to the culture at the time AND his disciples.
I sincerely believe that the body functions best headed by a man of God but every spirit filled Male leader knows and respects the strength of a female minister.
The problem is that too many people don't understand why this matters. They think that it's degrading to women. But...we've been warned about people who will ignore the truth and follow what tickles their ears. The Bible told us this would happen in the last days. Women need to relearn their strength in God.
It’s a disgrace that fewer and fewer men have declined to rise up and be the preachers and teachers in these days.. God will use whoever is willing to be used to further His Word …
false
Even a donkey.
No it's completely the opposite actually walk into any church and ask the congregation and every single one of them male or female will tell you that they have been called to be the pastor
Even if that is sticks or stone. Thanks be to God tho that women has risen to the occasion to spread the word of God.
@@tomijerry650 nope I'm a youth worker it's my job to look after children that can't live with there parents due to alcohol and drug abuse and I can tell you honestly from experience that nearly every time at least %95 it's the mother that suffers from substance abuse related issues
If Satan can use women to speak lies, then God can use women to speak truth!
Speaking the truth and spreading the word of God is completely different than being a pastor or leading a church.
Yes He can and yes He does, however they can not have authority over men in the church or the Lord's work.
Absolutely! These verse though say plainly they shouldn’t be pastors of a church.
You are absolutely right
@Gus. Tract man. Williams
Father can use whoever he pleases and are willing to get his message out
I think John was wrong just to be clear... I think we agree... not sure
Women cannot be over men, it goes against the Lords design. So it’s not that a woman cannot explain the gospel it’s that the Lord did not put her in the position to have authority over men
Sexist men wrote the Bible.
Thanks for that. Your comment helped
So a woman can’t hold a higher position at a job than a man, no doctors when theres a male nurse? Does god commend that too even though the woman is saving lives? Or is it just at the church?
@@Pinkdollface
Awesome comment
As a I have a woman doctor dentist barber
I think, women should b uplifted for as I know for ages they were,suppressed
As the Bible was twisted to justify this cruel treatment
That is evil n straight, from the pit of hell, fire 🔥
The church is not a building made with human hands. The church is both women and men. There is no male orcfemale for those annointed by God. Women are prophets just like men. Paul was speaking of the culture at that time and not the words of God. Rightly divide.
The comment section is a great example of how feminism has infiltrated the church. Lawd have mercy...
Yep
I swear!!!
LOL! Preach it. ❤😂
Look at the bigger picture feminism is rooted straight from z-I-o-n-1ism
Damn, that's crazy cause the first ones to tell about the gospel were 2 women.
😂😂😂
Peter and Saint Paul were women? Those are funny names for women.
Edit: don't care anymore stop replying to me.
@@swempley lol, childish response.
@@raincore80 They were the first two people who spread the gospel and they're not women. Try again.
@@swempley you're right I was wrong. The first ones to claim he had risen were 6 women not 2
My daughter asked a question after watching this. “Why can’t women preach?” To which I replied;
To change a tire you need a jack and a tire iron. Which is more important? Neither. Both are equal they are just made to do different jobs. Satan, wants to flip everything God does. Do you accept what God has made. Isn’t he wiser than us. Do you trust him? Man and woman are equals but they have different jobs. Is daddy going to work more important than mommy caring and teaching in the house while daddy is at work? She got it. 🎉😊😅
Men and women AREN'T EQUAL
SORRY BUT YOU ARE WRONG
@@TriciaPerry-ef7bi physically and in some things, you are right, they're not equal. He said neither was more important, and his example was perfect for a child to understand
Got what? That Daddy is too old fashioned and just a little misogynist?🤣🤣
@@TriciaPerry-ef7biMen & Women are equal not physical but they are equal. God put Men to lead the house hold but God didn’t make women inferior, they are our equals. God put Men as head of the house hold but that doesn’t mean that women aren’t our equals.🤷
1 Corinthians 11:1-3:
1Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
2Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you. 3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Since I became a born-again christian June 1969 it has changed drastically. In spite of 1 Tim 2 its clear women are not supposed to teach. Do we pick now what we want to obey??? It's just like Israel before being taken into Captivity, Straying from God's Word. Isaiah 3:12. Children. Opress them and women rule over them
As soon as you change one thing.....you open the flood gates.
For those that are confused by this message, men and women are both called to spread the message of the gospel. The Bible prohibits women from pastoring, it’s a form of submission. God is the head of man, man the head of women. Women aren’t supposed to lead a church because they are the weaker vessel. This doesn’t mean we cannot share the gospel with strangers and those around us. This also doesn’t mean women are inferior to men, it’s the perfect structure created by God for a perfect union.
Women are called to spread the word but not pastor and lead church? Really? So men will continue holding God to ransom? hell no!!
God said at the latter days, He will pour out His spirit on ALL and your sons and DAUGHTERS will prophesy.
It was rather men who rebelled against God so He used and still using :anything" willing/available including women to spread His word. Ask the Holy Spirit to give you clarity on the Word. Shalom.
@@nanaama1807 @Nana Ama Prophecy and pastoral leadership in a Church are two very different things. I believe MOTO hit the nail on the head. Women are permitted to teach other women, children, spread the gospel of course, and can prophecy but it's quite clear they are not to lead a church. "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man." 1Timothy 2:11-12
Part of the criteria for being a church elder is being a husband to one wife so would it make sense that a female elder is not permitted but a female pastor to lead the Church is permitted? All of Jesus' 12 disciples were men and male pastors have been the norm ever since the church was formed.
I've done a bit of research on this topic and even though I found evidence for both sides I continue to find a much stronger argument that God is saying women are not to pastor/lead a church.
And if in doubt, I think it's wise to err on the side of caution attending churches with male preachers or risk offending God.
Amen. But this isn’t the context ppl of today want to hear.🙄
Amen..well said.
🙏🙏
In the last days I will pour out my spirit on All flesh my sons and daughters will prophesy
You don’t need to be a pastor to prophesy.
There seems to have always women prophets. So last days must mean more prophecy than normal. Prophecy is not teaching or exercising authority it is making known a message from God. And there is a ton of false prophecy
If she must be silent then she must not sing, she must not pray loud, she must not prophesy, she must not share a prophetic dream if God gives her one because all of these include speaking to men and if you share a revelation that means you are teaching... the only thing she is aloud is to breath
@@ami2763 the passage a couple verses further Paul explains women are not to have authority over a man. God made us equal but different is the complimentarian view. Both sexes are involved in worship and prophecy but have different roles in the body of Christ
@@Topher3088 No. That verse ist talking about HER OWN MAN. A woman can lead men. Absolutely. There are examples in OT and NT. It is about how she leads and if she still can submit to HER OWN MAN. 1st Timothy 2:12 is about Adam and Eve, thus about marriage.
The Word of God is everything. The commands of God are all that matters.
God is to obeyed & followed.
Thank you, John MacArthur.
Satan can make you understand the word of God in different And carnal ways if the spirit of the world is the one leading you to understand but if the holy spirit is the one leading you then you can truly understand it and do the will of God, he can also show you secrets of it that was meant by the church to know them
Friend. John MacArthur has taken those verses completely out of context. Please go read the entirety of the chapter. He should not use this passage as a support for his point.
@@suzannemartin68171 Timothy 2:12-15
New American Standard Bible
12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first [a]created, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman was [b]deceived and [c]became a wrongdoer. 15 But [d]women will be [e]preserved through [f]childbirth-if they continue in faith, love, and sanctity, with moderation.
Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
So glad there were women to proclaim the resurrection. Sounds like really important preaching.
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New International Version
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
That’s not preaching. They witnessed an event.
Mat 7:21: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
It’s not preaching it’s Bearing witness, that’s like saying I got subpoenaed to court and Stated what I saw and because I did that I’m preaching…
@@Mydailyword170 bearing witness is fine. We are talking about women teaching men, in Christ’s church. Sharing with friends and unbelievers in a casual setting is a different story - as evidenced here.
In the words of Dr. Billy Graham, it is a result of men not standing up and taking responsibility, that our society is heading toward the matriarch. I agree with the word of God. More men need to be men of God and lead. God bless 🙏
Well said brother! Us men have to learn how to be godly men and take responsibility of the church and lead our wife and kids to God.
@@ivanreimer3345 💯
@@gus.tractman.williams4442 the problem with modern beliefs is, that Jesus' teachings were all just full of compassion and not at all offensive. But if you read the Bible you'll figure out, that his teachings were convicting and that he called out the pharisees and religious people who didn't have faith in god. They just lived with the fear of people and not the fear of God.
I do agree too. Women hate couch potatoes and sooner or later these guys get dumped. They innately want a loving and directive man that isn’t afraid of her or anybody else for that matter. When they get that, they get upset at the guy. No wonder why Paul have the recommendation to avoid trying to get married: stay as the Lord called you he said… few women get that one nowadays. If we ever get into war, would women be so prone then to demand equality between the sexes ? I let you answer that question by yourself!
@MyFamily Story Moments the statement from Billy Graham goes deeper than just a woman's likes and dislikes. There's a spiritual war happening. The "powers that be" are dividing us by color, gender, sexual preference, religion...name it. All to profit and obtain more control/power.There is and has been an attack on men for decades now, the family unit, and the church. People need to put their emotions aside in order to see this manipulation, especially men. With Godly men leading, no one will care what a selfish woman or emotional man wants. If God is front and center in the household, the wife will follow her husband. Don't be unequally yoked in the faith unless God calls you to be for his reasons. Your question re combat would be irrelevant if we were a Godly nation. Remember, the women you see or hear about are not representative of every woman, same goes for "all men", "all blacks", every white person is not racist or whatever divide they're brainwashing the masses with on that day. Good luck to you sir in your life's journey 🙏
God created men and women to fulfill roles. Both are important. Men are to lead, women are to support and nurture. If we, women take the role of the man, we tend to not fully fulfill our role as a woman. We may feel that we have the wisdom to preach, but better share it with the right man and let him do the leading and preaching.
But even the wisdom to preach women preachers don’t possess it to men with the correct Godly mindset, one can’t be wise as a woman and be a preacher in the first place because that choice alone is unwise
John MacArthur should know that when the majority of evangelical Christians disagree with his viewpoint, that it is not likely to be a rebellion issue. The fact is the majority of Christians disagree with him because they have studied the issue deeply and believe that God through the word of scripture disagrees with John MacArthur!
Please explain which scriptures dispute his message. Saying he’s wrong is not enough. Show in scripture where he is wrong. I’m not mad, just curious.
The fact that women preaching is a bigger concern of his than spreading the gospel speaks volumes of his character.
Thank you
GOD DID NOT CALL. No WOMAN... HIS DISCIPLES WERE MEN. HE CREATED 1 BODY AND FORM TWO Different for a reason.
It's not a bigger concern. The word of God, the WHOLE word of God is the gospel. The moment you think you can cherry pick scripture to conform to your will, you are proven to be a fraud and no one should trust you.
John MacArthur preached the Gospel soooooo hard. He teaches about Jesus more than anything else
@@sharonrodriques83 then men should step up and do their jobs, they should be responsible!, you'll see more women in churches than men, where are the men?, in bars, or playing video games, or smoking weed, or even cycling 🙄😒😤
God has used many women to spread the Word and lead others biblically. Throughout the Bible, women have played a key role in fulfilling God's plan. They have also held positions of leadership and responsibilities in spreading the Gospel. I’m new to the Bible and if GOD AND JESUS guide you, women or man. Fulfill your assignment ppl. It won’t be easy. 🙏💪
Very true, you are very right..👍
The arguments of this pastor here is "old
patriarchal thinking"...quite arrogant and ignorant....
You're new to the Bible. That's all that you needed to say.
@@beatewagner7.2934 Not at all, you see God made man with his roles and he made Women as a helper and Man are made to lead Women this is not “Patriarchy” it doesn’t make women in-equal, in fact they have roles that men can’t accomplish either, one of the roles of Men is to lead and especially to lead the church
God only used women when Israel was in a bad way and being lead to destruction. Stop trying to bend the scripture to your liking.
Pastor John MacArthur is a wonderful pastor and will teach you a lot about the Bible. Please don’t let the short turn you off about him so to speak. He is literally teaching from the Bible. This is a teaching from the Bible. God never said that a woman can’t evangelize, or lead people to Christ. God doesn’t want women on the pulpit. And there is a reason for that. Women should not be preaching unto men about how to conduct themselves in their lives. I’m sure there’s more to it but that’s what I gather from it. No where in the Bible does it say for women to not spread the word or do the work of God. It’s simply says for a woman to not be a preacher, or head of a church.
Furthermore 6 things God HATES 7 abomination … haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.
What about the dynamic missionary and speaker Elisabeth Elliot? Context in the Bible is everything. God can call men or women to preach or lead. If he can talk through animals, if he can make the rocks cry out, then of course he can use women to teach his word. Our mothers who helped us get ready for school and prepared our meals is one of our first glimpses of leadership in Christ as they prayed over us. ❤
This is so sound, it's hard to argue, so I won't :D
I was once a pastor in a church. One morning I prayed while repenting for Gal. 5 vs 16 - 21. Especially for outburst of wrath. I then prayed and asked God to show me what a women should be like. He made me and He knows how he expects me to conduct myself. That very morning God revealed to me a women should not teach over a church with males. Two days later I had my last message and explained why I was stepping down. I was crucified my the women in our church. God started giving me scriptures that completely explained everything to me. I will list those below here. Women have there place in the church. God knows why He has put things in this order. May this message reach any women walking in this sin. 🙏
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Galatians 5:16-17, 19-25 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/gal.5.16-25.KJV
“And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write, ‘These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass: “I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience; and as for your works, the last are more than the first. Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works. “Now to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will put on you no other burden. But hold fast what you have till I come. And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations- ‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron; They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels’- as I also have received from My Father; “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’
Revelation 2:18-27, 29 NKJV
bible.com/bible/114/rev.2.18-29.NKJV
wow amen
How did he show you/speak to you?
@Pinkdollface I can help you. But you need to be calm and willing to listen.
If you want to hear from him, then you need to turn off everything. You want to hear him, and you can't if theres distractions.
Gods voice is a still small voice. You are a created being. He created your imagination, your ears, and your spirit, everything about you.
1 Kings 19:11-13
King James Version
"11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord. And, behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the Lord was not in the earthquake:
12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?"
He will speak to you however he pleases. If you are spending time with him, then you may receive a vision if he chooses. It is, though, your thoughts he speaks, or it could be audible. It could be a sign. A sign could be anything. My message I'm giving you here, or a stranger giving you a word of knowledge that's aligned with something you recently prayed about.
God is contemporary, a living God. You might have something show up on your social media thats aligned with something you prayed about.
However he wishes to speak to you; you will know that it is him.
John 10:27-28
King James Version
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
His yoke is light. When he enters the room, the atmosphere literally changes. All you have to do is call out to him.
Matthew. 11 Verses 28 to 30
[28] Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. [29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. [30] For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. "
Since this is your first time hearing from him, you'll need to apply this test in 1 John 4.
Once you hear from any spirit, you must apply this test. God will not be offended. He would rather you be safe than sorry.
1 John 4
King James Version
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
As for me, I absolutely don't have any problem with women being pastors or leaders in church. God said He will pour out His Spirit on all flesh, and both sons and daughters will prophesy. How do daughters prophesy to God's people if they don't speak at all in church? Remember, that women held leadership roles in Scriptures, right from the Genesis to the Revelation. Deborah, a woman was a judge In Israel, and she led a whole nation, which is way larger than a congregation. Also, Josiah, a little boy became king at eight years old. This is to show that this concept of women not preaching in church is satanic. The church is not a men's cult but the Ecclesia of God, and anyone can function as He permits, regardless of gender. God calls whoever He wills, and empowers whoever he wants. God can use anybody at anytime for whatever purpose He wishes, and we can't do anything about it, he's God. If God can use a donkey to speak to Balaam and little David to defeat Goliath, what the entire Israel was afraid of, why can't he use a woman to lead His church? Don't demonize what God deems appropriate. If you're a woman reading this, and God is calling you to minister, go ahead and don't let the devil use these religiously brainwashed folks to stop you.
#EvangelistGlobal
The first Evangelists of the Gospel were women who found the empty tomb and met Jesus.
The women went to proclaim the Good News to the men Disciples but the men did not believe. Great example set by the men, would you say.
Even Thomas first wanted to inspect the nail scared hands before believing.
Paul was merely addressing the cultural context where some women were getting too excited in Church and got out of order.
Paul was not addressing it in terms of an absolute doctrine that women cannot preach or become Pastors.
Paul did however make clear as a absolute Doctrine that "There is now no more male or female, slave or free, for we are all one in Christ".
You are missing a valuable point and a blessing in that it was a woman (Eve) who through her actions brought sin and shame into the world and it was now through the woman who was granted the previlege of finding the empty tomb and having the honour of proclaiming the Good News to the men in order to bring mankind Life.
GOD Bless you, you are a great teacher but you are wrong in your view, it is pure heresy that women cannot become Pastors or Preachers or Priests or indeed hold any office in the Church.
As with anything including the eating of certain foods or alcohol with some people, you need to be sensitive by allowing women to preach in certain cultures so as not to be a stumbling block but there are no provisions to prohibit women from becoming Pastors.
the bible is clear, women not to teach in church or assurp authority over me,. everything you are saying nonsense and total dis-regard of the commandment, repent woman
Im a woman.
And if this is what GOD tells us through his Holy Bible
That this is what is right and this is what is wrong
Then now I know what is right and what is wrong.
I don't ask Mankind to tell me what is right and what is Wrong I ask GOD.
SO NOW I KNOW.
AMEN.
Amen Sister !❤
1 Timothy 2:12 KJV
But I suffer j not a woman to teach, nor to usurp k authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Here notice paul said I. As in I not jesus. It was custom back then for women to be in complete submission no different then a Muslim country today. This sermon is leaving out the culture and the mindset. Just like Peter rejecting Un clean animals or gentiles
@@travishowett7651 “Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.”
1 Corinthians 11:1 KJV
If you’re a dispensationalist, repent
@@SilverrSurferr35 I don't hold to any ism but the holy spiritism.
Let's take a look at this. A group of Gentiles coerced into Judaism through Christianity. You don't have a god so you adopted a god. Judaism is telling you you don't know right from wrong because you are a gentile. You don't have to accept Judaism.
He will pour out His Spirit on ALL FLESH.
Amen.
Amen amen amen
Thanks 4. Ur stand for biblical truth
Yes now the holy ghost fire 🔥 😍 🙌 is falling on millions
Re : women preachers
Man d not hire them n no one cannot fire them
God bless u n ur lover ones n 2023
He can do that, but it doesn't mean that all flesh should be a pastor, does it?
Sure thing, but that has nothing to do with the topic here.
@@adamclark1972uk @Nathanael Thomas give me one verse where God himself said all those things... That women should not preach. Or work for God......
Do u even know d meaning of "Calling"..... Mary, mother of Jesus had a calling to birth Jesus. Esther had a calling, Deborah had hers and many heroic female figures in d bible...
The only person that made that statement was Paul and he never gave a clear reason for it.... So how can u assume all these..... Paul also said that d reason he said women should not lead is so that d men can have something to do in d society
..... Imagine a world without men working, it'll be a world full of crimes and atrocities..... It's not because women destroy d church...
Stop trying to attach d statement with negative meaning. Read d bible well
He told the women not to speak during church cause THOSE SPECIFIC WOMEN were loud and disrupting the service
It wasn't about women pastors
I see that Philistine mindset is still strong today..
What did I look at to make the algorithm mad at me?
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I had to struggle with at one point. BUT after studying for a degree in theology down here in South Africa at George Whitefield College , I have come to understand how God has designed the structure of the Church. Am happy to serve God and still share God's Word in areas that do not challenge the authority of Scripture. For example , with this theological degree as woman , you can still serve in Biblical counselling , kids ministry , missions ( but still being led by men ) , Campus ministry, teens ministry, leading ladies Bible studies , sharing God's Word on a one to one with other ladies , music ministry , writing...It is not just about the puppet , the least is endless I guess in my opinion .
Someone gets it! God bless you for you obedience to His word. As a Woman myself I don’t u sweat and the draw and desire to pastor. It’s a clear command from God that we’re not permitted to speak in a church in a congregation. To lead a congregation. And why would we? Most women have children, I can’t imagine trying to “lead” a church and also trying to disciple my children. I feel like I would fail my children for this supposed “calling”. And I’m even if I didn’t have children, the Bible is clear, it’s about obedience. Women who pastor simply lack humility, and are prideful. No matter what scriptures you show then they will twist it for their favor. I have yet to hear a female pastor teach solid biblical doctrine.
Which portion of scripture says women can only do that?
I’m so glad I don’t put limits on what God is able to do. He exceeds beyond our way of thinking. It’s his way not ours.
Dear sister [ as a street jail n. Nursing home. Preacher] now. 82 yrs old. I beseech. U. To. Disregard. All. The anti women man. Dominated theology in college
Be free. [ if God called u to Preach]
Hit c the. Jails. Streets. By. Ways. N Howard. Preach [ as. Word says in season out of season,].
Don't b half in half out. With God
Plunge In deep. With God. And watch. Him. Reach many souls for christ Jesus
Right on, friend 💕🙏
I disagree. Paul said in the last days we are neither male or female, blond or free. If you study history, Phoebe was a pastor. Paul corrected a specific church for wo
men who were uneducated, disrupting the service from men who were more qualified Phyllis and Aquilla were partners in ministry.
Those are not biblical citations, please take the time and verify if what you're saying is Biblical!
Neither male And Female,talking about Salvation,Phoebe was no pastor but helper,no deaconess, because men are deacons and qualifications of deacons is husband 1 wife ,priscillia and Aquila was husband and wife,they helped Paul and they were tent makers
It was because of a WOMAN that I became a Christian & learned about Jesus. She disciples me for over a year until I learn all the foundations of Christianity & having a relationship with Jesus. In other words thank God she didn’t follow the rules 🤍
Women can tell people about Jesus without openly disobeying God
I have a few questions:
Are you male or female?
Was she preaching in church or did she come up to you on the street/daily life.
How do you understand 'discipling'? What does that include in your case?
God told us through the Bible that the older women should teach the younger women. This is the way it should be!
Pretty sure that part of corintheans was specific to the scenario, where a group of women were disrupting service with lots of questions instead of waiting until the end
That’s exactly what the excerpt was about but that’s what happens when people read the Bible out of context and don’t study the WOG. There are plenty of women in the Bible at the time mentioned by Apostle Paul that ministered. It’s sad how “people [will] perish for the lack of knowledge”
The word of God transcends Time and Culture. God spoke through the Apostle directly and Universal. Culture doesn't dictate the word of God! The word of God dictate the Culture!
@@albertedmonds1952 and Joel 2:28 says women will prophecy
Not only is that taken out of context, but they also attached 3b as if it is part of the same thought and it isn’t!
It was. but leave it to some people to use that scripture to control and dominate women
I agree, but women can praise God out loud and pray out loud. When Paul said to be silent, there were specific churches where the women were becoming unruly. Doesn't mean. Women have to sit in complete silence with their heads bowed low. They're free in christ. Means they should be humble and let the man do what God has called to do, which is lead.
@@trevrockrock16 you just have to not be ignorant of God's word. I'm not.
@@trevrockrock16 a good study guide will help you
True they can't sit as robots and not sing and praise
@@trevrockrock16 so women are not allowed to sing and praise in the church according to you i understand they shouldn't be pastors and shepherd the sheep but no where in the bible are women forbidden to sing and praise
Silence means not to preach
It's called enlightenment. It's disgraceful to think like a dominating, abusive man
Remember we are not a religion, we are sons and daughters of God
Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
My mother was a born again pastor and all my childhood and adolescent life I went through so much trauma. She lead her congregation first and motherly duties last and my father remained emasculated and meek. My father until this day does not lead, wouldn’t know how to and my husband now is picking up the pieces. It’s so important for men and women to respect the roles that God made especially in the church.
@@gus.tractman.williams4442 God doesn't call and anoint any women
@@gus.tractman.williams4442 You do not know what you're talking about. For all of church history, except the last 100 or 50 years, it was well established that women could not be pastors or priests. My statements have scriptural basis. It says clearly in the Bible. God doesn't permit a woman to teach or have spiritual authority over men. Women are to remain silent in churches. It is what it is. Christianity isn't egalitarian, whether you like it or not.
@@gus.tractman.williams4442 Ig women can be preachers. But they can't be pastors, the Bible is clear on that.
I just want to say John MacArthur has a pastors academy that takes millions from women who want to be pastors
@@gus.tractman.williams4442 His mum is the one that's rebellious, in defiance of Scripture and the natural order.
Sorry, but if my mom kept silent and left everything to her husband, I don’t think I would’ve even made it to adulthood let alone be a person following Christ today. God can use whoever he wants wherever he wants. we need to stop putting Him in a box
Yes thank you. Pharisees are the real deceivers
Do you have facebook account. is your mom a female pastor?
You are mistaken. The meaning was that to not preach in a way of authority given to that of a man like Hosea or Elijah.
We can share the gospel but was not given authority by God.
@@lamila4195 can God give authority to animals to preach? It’s a yes or no question.
@@Aguyfrom225 No.
For better insight a good read to the Scriptures would give you answers to this.
Both Old and New Testament plays an important role for all of us in our daily lives.
I hope reading it with full understanding will lead you towards the Real Truth of Life.
Have a good day.
The worst part is that people are listening to a man and not God. Paul is the one who says they cannot, he never said the Lord or God, he said “I” people need to wake up and realize what they are reading. You say it’s the word of God I say it’s the word of man.
God can use anyone if you are ready. A lot of men are not ready. God will use any woman who is ready 😊 for God's work.
The great commission is for everyone! To preach the gospel, lay hands on the sick, cast out demons and raise the dead! It’s commanded to all!
Thats correct but there's a difference between sharing the gospel and being a pastor. 1 Tim 3, 1 Cor 14, Titus 1 is crystal clear on this!
@@urbanvoice5323 please study revelation 1:6 all Christians are pastors.
@@antonymuriuki3492 we're all servants and royal priests indeed but we're not all pastors set aside to shepherd and oversee the flock (local church) read 1 TIM 3 and 1 PETER 5.
@@urbanvoice5323Have studied all the chapters but don't see where women have been forbidden to pastor.All Christians have the same spirit from our father in Heaven and if the Holy spirit does choose a lady to pastor who are we to question him.study Joel (2:28....)
@@antonymuriuki3492 no disrespect then i don't think you've studied it enough. You might need to look at what a text of scripture means in its context and what its implications are. Rather than reading into the text what you may subconsciously want it to say. Joel 2:28 has no correlation or bearing with 1 Tim 3, Titus 1 its talking about a different issue.
God knows what He is doing better than religious people! Hallelujah!
Amen! we are all equal in God's eyes. I believe these people will be shocked to find that out in the next life.
““But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die. “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair? When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies in it, it is because of the iniquity which he has done that he dies.”
Ezekiel 18:24-26 NKJV
Commands are commands. 🌎🙏🏽🇪🇨
If u only use the Bible as a rigid set of rules u will b most miserable
In the word their is much love peace hope joy 😂 ❤ ♥
The Bible was never written to beat someone over the head with
God has standards for his children but he is never harsh
It wasn't a command of God but a culture thing with Paul. How can women be prophets if they can't preach. And how can they not be pastors if the the church is not a building? Rightly divide.
@@jdaze1.
I'm my over 40 years of knowing women preachers only on one was r prophet
U do not have a understanding of the gifts of the spirit
Without the holy ghost no one cannot understand any biblical nor spiritual things
Millions t In dead churches playing churche n lost as a snow ball in the fire 🔥
@@jdaze1it's not a cultural issue because he appeals to the creation order as an argument, which transcends culture.
Prophecy is simply not the same category as overseer, it's never portrayed this way in the Bible.
The universal Church is not the local body. The Bible says both exist.
The first time I heard the gospel was from a woman,my mother.
Exactlyyyyyyy.
Can someone explain the reason behind why women shouldn't preach? I'm not against this verse whatsoever just tryna understand
@@mbalitshabalala03 tradition says that the women were not understanding and were asking questions and distracting when the word was being preached,hence “ let them ask their husbands”later at home.
@@clintwalker6389 ohhhhh
Thanks
Sharing the good news is the responsibility of every saved person, but to lead a church is different because they lead the body of believers, those already saved, as they grow in their faith.
@@allforYAHUAH it’s also the responsibility of someone leading a church to obey the word of God,not pick what you want to obey or try to explain why you don’t obey.
I was talking with myself yesterday ( yes, myself lol ) about the kind of marriage i pray God designs for me because as a woman in this society i use to be misguided on what my role was, i wasn't taught that the roles for men and woman weren't there to hurt me. But i came to a realization. Thinking about my role and a mans role, Focusing on what it means to be the woman of God. I realized something about Adam and Eve, God created Adam first, but what dawned on me was really thinking about who actually knows how long it was just Adam and God before he created Eve, so what i got from that for myself was that Adam had a longer and meaningful relationship with God and he was in a higher position than Eve aside from what God already placed on Adam. Eve came after, she was there to be a help mate to Adam. When i think about that i realize my role as a woman is not bad. I desire to have a Man of God who knows Him in such a way that there's no room for me to become a " teacher " in a role made for men.
since God created Adam first, I desire for my Husband to know Christ more than I, understanding that I need to have my own relationship but God can use me in ways that are specifically for me.
That's amazing. I'm looking for a wife who gets this.
@@lawrencestoke I Pray by God's will that you find you're helpmate 🤍
Amen Sister ! 💜
We’ll Said 👍
@@sgtbma1 🤍
For women not to speak and it be ashamed for women to speak in a church was written specifically for the city of Corinth. Corinth was dealing with a lot of carnal issues including women asking their husbands questions out loud in church and talking among each other.
Yes exactly. I don't like how men specifically have continued to bend God's word to put women in bondage. But God will always open our eyes. I'm a lady and I'm going to be a pastor whoever likes it or not. Isn't it funny how many things in the bible men have changed to suite them. I will be a pastor and I will lead a church
Show scripture that supports said claim, that it is limited to the city of Corinth
@@life-live- you have to apply proper hermeneutics. Each letter was written to specific churches regarding specific situations. You have to understand the purpose and background of each letter. You should really get into school so you can understand what you're reading beloved. Learn how to rightly divide the word of God.
@@life-live- it only appears in the epistle to the Corinthians. 🤣
@@esomitojenina2249you need to repent of your blatant objection to plain biblical truth. You sound like your priorities are more important to you than the Word of God.
Agreed and I am a woman--a real one!
Then I guess your not called called to prophecy Gods word. And you're not part of the church because the "church" simply means called out 9nes. Its not a building.
In 1st century Jewish culture, which is the era when Paul and Timothy wrote those words, women were not allowed to read and study the Tora. Thus, they were to remain silent at worship and ask their husbands questions at home so as to not disrupt service. Nowadays, women are allowed to read and study the Tora and the Bible and preach if God calls them and anoints them to do so. That man is a liar!
He is heavily stuck in religion and salvation through work (not like the catholics tho, and at first you don't see that because he is preaching TULIP and Calvinism). Plain and simple like that. I always wondered why his Church and ministry has even Grace in it's name for his preaching is legalism at it's best and I know what I am talking about because God has delivered me out of THAT like he delivered Israel out of Egypt. God bless.
The very fact that there's such opposition against women proves their importance in this hour! Didn't God himself say that the seed of a woman will crush the head of the enemy?! My seed has a voice and I will plant, sow, harvest, and birth my seed whenever and wherever God says to! God will not be silenced in this hour!! 🙌
Isn’t the seed Jesus?
Talk about taking things out of context
Amen
That doesn't prove anything lol.
Yeah, that women is the Virgin Mary.. not yourself
God Himself established that man would rule over women after Adam and Eve ate from the fruit
There are strong woman of God pastoring because somewhere a man of God said no to Gods calling! Woman are just as anointed and on fire to preach and teach Gods word. Corrie Ten Boom, Kathryn Khulman to name a few teaching for many years back!
Yes thank you! So sick of this lie from hell!
Yes but only to women, women are not permitted in the Bible to teach man
@@laurencastillo9741 “And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.”
I Timothy 2:12 NKJV
“Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.”
I Corinthians 14:34-35 NKJV
Take this up with God, don’t get mad at me
@@laurencastillo9741how is it a lie from hell if it’s Gods word in the Bible?
So this is what happens when you don’t study the context of the scriptures. When Paul speaks to the Corinthians about women not speaking in the congregation, he was actually reprehending woman for understanding the teachings of Jesus Christ, but still asking silly questions in the middle of the service. Paul is not saying that women are prohibited to preach the word of the Lord, and there is no verse in the Bible that says “women cannot be pastors”. What Paul was pointing out was the intention behind those comments and questions women were shouting, for they were challenging the authority of the Corinthians church leaders. If there were an actual verse about not being pastors, it would say that no person is worthy of that position. Lets stop with the fanatical, extra religious thinking. None of us is worthy of sharing the Lord’s word, but it was by grace that we all have the assignment of preaching and make disciples for Christ to glorify God Father. It is not feminism, as it is not patriarchal thinking. We are all children of God by grace and we all are called to serve Him.
So much discrepancy about women being or not being pastors, and there has been thousands of “pastors” that have robbed their congregations, lied, utilized, abused, and so much degrading actions. The majority? Men.
God calls who he CALLS, to achieve his work, HIS will.... Clarifying not to preach he used many great women from the Bible Rebecca several others that he used to get his will prove to the in the earth not to preach that he used my new women
Explain what you meant by God calls who he CALLS?
Amen he just never calls a woman to preach. His word never contradicts itself.
Yeahovaah, the Bible is my only truth in life and will be in death. If you’re really saved you will dodge the demon trying to counter influence you from the Bible miss collins. Be blessed.
HIS will doesn't contradict HIS previous commands.
He does not call against his word. That call for a woman to preach is from Satan. I know this because God said no to this. Submit to God's word 🙏
Amen, it is the same pride and disobedience that drove Eve to sin and disobey God. Ability to execute a vocation has nothing to do with the fact God did not ordain women for this role, period.Just as the serpent inquired of Eve, Did God really say...? Women erroneously point to gender equality as the reason to become preachers instead of submitting to their God given roles in the church.
Oh really? And who was the one with Eve, standing there and saying nothing while she was eating? And he himself ate! Adam! It was Adam! Let's not elevate the one above the other. None of the scriptures concerning the matter of women preaching in the churches is deffinite about the subject. Context is king.
and go back and read why God cursed Adam. Genesis 3:17. Because Adam listened to the woman and ate.@@DIVIPI9
The men need to start having a closer relationship with the Lord for that to happen. If they not heeding to the call then someone has to
I don’t even understand why women and men are working so hard against this. Being a pastor comes with great responsibility and lots of temptations and hard times. Women have so many other things to contribute with in a church, so “why” are we so stubborn to be pastors? God can use you in other great ways.
I personally belive that women are supposed to serve in other ways like praying for the people, worshipping god, taking care of the assembly, and i believe that women should be a witness of Jesus outside as well. The thing is the church isn’t just supposed to be a nice place where you go and eat and talk to people and worship the lord. The church is also a place where the enemy attacks, and sometimes the government, and the church is a place where the leaders have to make tough decisions and lead the people well. And there is something beautiful about being the silent one, you will be able to see people in another way, serve people in another way, you will be able to pray ( and praying is powerful ) you will be able to serve and honor God the way he intended for us. It doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t speak kindly to others or never answer if we are spoken to it just means that we should have a quit spirit and not be trying to take leader rolls like the men do.
I don’t judge anyone I was a leader in church for almost a year, I now see a lot of things behind the scenes and I trust that God knows what’s best.
But honestly I do believe women are allowed to teach just not for men, rather young women and be a role model for them, I just believe that the lord loves his women very dearly, he doesn’t say things to make us feel less worthy. He is a God of order, and he has decided that this is the model for the church. Women are very important as well and we can’t forget that, our kindness and softness along with our strong faith can be a huge impact in peoples lives.
my hunch, if only women were pastors, the global percentage of child sex abuse would dramatically go down. hmmm, explain that.
@@ardbegthequestion maybe, but that don’t mean women wouldn’t influence the church with other things such as new age stuff which women are way more interested in than men, which is very serious. Women also are the ones bringing in feminism and other non christian ideologies.
And to be fair we don’t know if sexual sin would have decreased if women were pastors. I know about a scandal here in Sweden, not so far away from where i live. Where the female pastor was cheating on her husband, having orgies and killed a person so she could be with this particular man in church. Women bring sexual sin into the church too because humans are imperfect. Yeah sure the sexes have different tendencies, but I still think we should obey Gods word the best we can, and if he says no female pastors so be it.
@@Linden_alicia - yeah, sure make up whatever you want. Woman bad, man good. My CEO is a woman and mysteriously in the secular world, women seem to do just fine without all the bizarre issues that seem to be invoked; at least not at any rate higher than issues with men - power plays, sexual misconduct, alcoholism - whatever way we want to create strawpeople.
Please, just admit this is all about ego. Women are inferior and you don’t like that they are getting more access to the table. I mean if the Bible culture was still valid, we’d own our women.
100% 💯 correct
@@john318john I’m glad you see it my way.
Anyone condemning others from sharing the love of Christ on a larger scale... that's disgrace.
Amen to that ❤️
Preaching means getting up in front of a congregation and preaching. Women can still share the gospel just cant preach or teach that's a MANS Job
I’m a female and I approve this message because it’s Biblical🎚️
We are spirit beings. Our true identity comes from our spirit. Gender can't stop a woman from preaching. During Jesus ministry on earth several women went on preaching about God like Mary Magdalene, Samaritan woman and many more. The good news of Jesus can't be limited by a gender of the person. Jesus said go into all the world and preach the gospel Amen 🙌
This issues can't be resolved. Because people stand what they believe.
Obedience is the main method of separating the sheep from the goats. We are in the times of the "falling away".
This is true indeed!!🙏🙏🙏
In. Dead churches yes but. N. Full gospel churches. We. See revival raising. Up
The. Fire. Fire 🔥 📛 👨🚒 🚒 of. God. Will. Not. B. Quince
As. Example. [ look. 2 China. With. Millions. Of. Holy. Ghost. Christians]
In revelation the goats 🐐 [ r sinful men n women ] that will b cast into hell
Wow wow talk about twisting scripture
@@gus.tractman.williams4442 True faith results in obedience. Women that preach are disobeying God therefore show that they haven't faith. "If you love Me, obey My commandments." John 14:15.
@@johnnymiller7322yesss. Those without d|ck cannot read and teach book written by mighty d|ck. D|ckless may not teach D|ck book to the D|ck and D|ckless. D|ck know best. D|ck make you smart. D|ck make you ruler. D|ckless must sit in silence. D|ck is leader. Must possess and control all D|ckless. Dickless is evil satan witch. D|ckless weak. Must oppress all d|ckless. D|ckless is servant. D|ck is God. Must bow to D|ck. Obey D|ck.
Imagine if no women were teaching!! God gave me a ministry, literally handed it to me.. trained me for 7 yrs. woke me up and gave me the name. I’m gonna do what He has commanded me to do!!! 🙏🏽
JEREMIAH 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.
“Rebelling against the Bible” John sees the Bible as the fourth member of the Trinity 😂
We have a women pastor and we don’t care. So stop with all this bigotry.
I heard the original language is better translated as 'chatter '. Women like to talk, it's known. It's asking women not to gossip or speak during the sermon, instead listen.
I also believe that a female preacher or evangelist is more likely to be physically attacked or spoken over by unruly men. More likely to have her feelings hurt or belief shaken if the crowd rebels against her. More likely to be spoken negatively about by uncivilised people.
I personally like that it's not my responsibility to preach in public. Men should take that risk.
But I also don't believe that women aren't allowed to speak at all, especially when protected by a strong line of men who honour her.
Traditionally, women would be having the majority of spiritual influence on their children and communities. Teaching and spending all day with them. Whereas in reality, it might be the only time during the week that men got to speak to them. As they'd be spending dawn till dusk outside the home, working on the farm or similar. And mostly too exhausted to exert real spiritual influence over their family afterwards.
It was giving men a chance to speak at all.
Now that parenting roles are a lot more equal than they used to be, I'm not sure it's 100% applicable anymore.
Perhaps women shouldn't be pastors, but perhaps men should be out in the sun breaking their backs all day as well.
Thank you for searching for grace.
His interpretation is actually incorrect . The Bible in this case uses the word Women to refer to wives. The Greek word is "gunee" which means a women who is a wife. A wife should not be over her man trying to instruct him in church but should represent man's submission to Christ learning in all submission, piety, and quiteness. When is the last time we have quitely submitted to God and listened? Or why don't we seek to really understand God's Character in Christ? Perhaps then we would have already known this lesson. We would have also read this scripture (and no scripture can be set aside):
In the spirit: There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, *nor is there male and female* , for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Galatians 3:28 NIV
The word female in this case is "Thelus" which mean all women, not "gunee" which mean women who are wives. If Paul wanted to consider all women he would have said Thelus not gunee.
So be there is neither male or female in the spirit, God does not forbid a Female to teach, but for a wife to hold and wield God like authority over "the man", or otherwise the husband, which is not the order of his Word.
We must rightly divide the word, may you Go in peace, and He will forgive us for the small misstep.
@Omar Sheriff Kaptan The Strongs Concordance is simply the definition of the Greek words that were used to write the King James Version. The King James Version was translated from the "Masoretic Text" and original Greek version. Do you believe the King James Version is inspired?
Also other examples for you. (Sorry I misunderstood your previous message) I thought you were quoting old testament:
1 Timothy 3:11 still uses the word Gunee but this time it says Wife. The Greek word hasn't changed, but the interpreters tried to get a more complex language, Greek, and put it in the very simplified language of English and it lost some of its nuance, but it did not lose it's power for those who use the Spirit.
1 Timothy 5:14 uses the word "neos" and it's translated as "Young Women" (who have not been married). So Paul is very educated in his Greek, you can trust he means what he says.
*And here is the most important context of your answer*
If Paul said in 1 Timothy 2:14-15:
And Adam was not deceived, but the *woman* ... fell into transgression.
The word here for woman again is gunee. Was not Eve Adam's wife? Sorry for the translators.
Then the word says:
Nevertheless *she will be saved in childbearing* if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.
I Timothy 2:15 NKJV
How could all women be saved in childbearing? Only Wives can be saved in childbearing. Not all women will bear children. So when Paul uses Gunee he is writing a letter to Timothy for his work ministering to married women and men in Ephesus, as well as ministering to all others.
Thanks be to God we can use the letter to better understand the Character and Desire if God and make it fit within our own lives even 2 thousand years later.
Hope that help clarifies the issue. It is nuanced, but not veiled if you research. I am sorry that the Translators made these small translation decisions. But it works for our Good for those who fear The Lord.
With Love. Here to answer sincere questions. Thanks be to Jesus!
That's an interesting take on the subject, thank you for sharing, God bless 💖
I 100% agree. You made great points!
@@katpage9378 I couldn't agree more. Fantastic break down 💯❤
Yup they were worshippers of female god and kept interrupting service.
You’d think anyone with two brain cells would ask how can a woman be both silent in church and also give prophecy in church?
This guy is a perfect example of being led by your own mind and not the Spirit. Modern day Pharisees. He has been publicly rebuked over and over but still goes on teaching dead religion and bashing the gifts of the Spirit.
The context of women not speaking in churches is because at that time the Corinthian women use to come in church and talk one with another about everything going on in their home; including their sex lives. It was disruptive and so that's why they were told to be silent in the church. They were disrupting the full of the Holy Spirit. The first person the spread Jesus' word was the woman at the well. He sent her to prophesy personally.
There’s no problem with women spreading the gospel, even kids can do that. But to be a pastor over a church, where your more a Shepard with authority isn’t permitted by women
@@Gm-ok1zb i think men just don't want to give authority to women, and that is different :) I believe my God knows and loves more and would never be sexiest.
@@leliadan2167 nope it’s in the Bible. If you don’t like it take it up with God
@@Gm-ok1zb i will and i will pray for you to wake up at some point from this delusions too. God would be happy to hear about your development as a human.
@Ms. Monique Please cite a primary source
Amen! I am a pastor's wife, and I agree with him. We as women can serve in a different way, even if we have the gift of teaching. We should hold Titus 2 and not what the world is on trend. Rom 12:2
…There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus….
If the Holy Spirit moves me to talk about Jesus with someone I’m doing it . Plain and simple and i whole heartedly believe God would not hold that against me .
Edit : never said I was going to lead a church but when and if the Holy Spirit lays it on my heart to share the gospel I will. Stop questioning MY faith . You don’t know me . Take out the speck in your own eye first to those that are immediately judging me cause you obviously didn’t read what i wrote before going off on me . I understand the role of a pastor is for a man to fill . BUT if the HOLY SPIRIT tells me to witness to someone I WILL . And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
You can share the gospel outside of church person to person, but the role of pastor, the Lord has placed on the shoulders of men. It's not about capability but obedience to show our love for him. He has given all his servants a way to serve. And you can miss out on yours trying to do someone elses.
Lorey, it’s not what you believe because that is where the problem begins. Our thinking is faulty that’s why we obey God. Period. We need to Stop following our hearts because our hearts are deceitful. Just obey God, trust him, and read his word. Just because something feels a certain way it doesn’t mean that’s what God wants for you. God bless. Btw, I’m not putting you down or anything just explaining about following God’s word.
He won’t hold it against you but the ones misinterpreting the scriptures most definitely will. So follow God or follow men who follow tradition, bias, prejudice, and fear… which one will it be? Choosing God is always the right way to go. The Holy Spirit is our teacher, our director, our counselor, and so much more. He will never lead you to violate the Scriptures and telling people about Jesus fulfills the command to go into all the world and share the gospel. Go girl, go with the leading of the Holy Spirit and forget about the ones who tell you can’t simply because of your gender. The description of the Holy Spirit as our helper is the same word used to describe Eve in Genesis. It’s interesting that the Holy Spirit often has been treated as a ‘lesser’ Person of the Godhead, even though He, too, is God. Women also seem to be treated as ‘less than’ even though Eve was taken out of Adam’s side and God told both Adam and Eve to have dominion over all things. What we’re experiencing is a result of the fall from Grace, not God’s original blueprint for mankind. The Bible tells us to study to show ourselves approved. Without the revelation and teaching of scripture through the Holy Spirit, we’ll lack the insight and understanding of scripture and interpret it through our fallen nature, not through the lens of accuracy and truth that only the Holy Spirit can provide.
Same book speaks to both men and women as prophets and speaking in tongues. We must take off the veil of religion and allow Holy Spirit to lead and guide us.
That's not being in leadership in a church.
I’m a woman and I’m a preacher. I don’t preach because I just one day woke up and wanted to. I preach because God called me to and if I don’t, I would be living in rebellion. God calls those who are willing. You only have ONE scripture taken out of context to show women supposedly can’t preach but there are MANY that prove otherwise. I see disregarding the rest of God’s word as rebellion. This is why we need the baptism of the Holy Spirit. He is the Spirit of truth and those who are filled with His spirit can read the word with a deeper understanding. I’m not a feminists, and I definitely am a submissive wife, but I’m also a preacher called by God. Why did He fill me with His Spirit and anoint me to preach if He didn’t want me to?
There aren't Scriptures that say women can preach.
The Bible mentions a female judge, deaconess, and several prophetesses. These aren't pastors. A woman delivering a specific message is not a pastor.
So why do I get Dreams about being called Into ministry Preaching gospel prophesying deliever People ? My dreams is from God. And i trust his divine
Revelations. I dont know about a woman should have the title pastor , but I Believe women can be evangelist and prophetess and have ministry
@@Feliciaa1992 Your dreams and your beliefs supersedes the Bible?
A formal title and an established venue isn't necessary to share the Gospel. The Gospel can be shared informally. There are very knowledgeable men that share the Gospel across multiple platforms, including in-person, though they have no official title or position.
@@coolbreeze6532 God speaks through dreams not Only the Word. And I know when my dreams is from God Bc of discernment. I dont think a woman should be title pastor but a woman can minister to People with the Gifts from God
@@Feliciaa1992 Every Christian can share the word with both believers and unbelievers. Minister means "to serve." So by all means, serve.
Church leadership is reserved for men. Calling oneself an evangelist while performing the duties of a pastor most likely still violates. Calling oneself a prophet is even riskier.
Imagine the amount of people that would have missed the message and fallen astray had a woman kept silent my mom is the most powerful person of God I know and our church leader Rev. B.r. Hicks dedicated her life til the day she died to giving God all the glory I'm sorry but no I respectfully disagree
Facts. Everybody want to go to heaven and lead but nobody want to follow the ONLY way
You do not understand this. Read the Bible for yourself, comparing various translations to get a much more in-depth understanding of what it says.
True. The Bible is clear is says in multiple places woman shouldn't teach or lead men. Yet, every woman in America is doing just that
@@hijohojo2868 Are you sure about that? I suggest you read those specific scriptures in their context and consider that when Jesus came, he didn't make such distinctions between the sexes.
@@Mimi-xy1tu He Did specifically.. that is why there is no female apostles. Why wasn't Mary Magdalene One?? We hear about her more than some of the other apostles such as Phillip. Yet, she wasn't giving the office.. there is a reason for that. Woman are not to be pastors. That is disobeying the word of God then giving justification for that act of disobedience.
Super interesting to see so many people bothered or against this. The Bible states this so why the debate, this is like homosexuality yall just what to serve Father how y’all want to. Completely disregarding his his statutes and commands. Just observing the comments! We are to be set apart, Qodeshim, also He gives us a choice but we don’t get the option of serving Him however we please.
Pray talk to Father and read your Bible for yourself
And Kathryn Kuhlman is like Brother whattt...
It makes you then wonder why God uses these same Women to carry the manifest presence of God if its "forbidden".. 🤔
Yup but guys like this have dead religious spirits. They lean on their own understanding and what a school told them something means.
You’d think even a child would ask how can women be silent in church and also give prophecy in church? Almost like it’s not meaning what you t would seem.
These women were worshippers of Diane and kept distrusting service. It’s obviously not saying a women should be silent, not worship, not give prophecy, etc.
Right! Bc the text was written for that culture
Kathryn Kuhlman carried a spirit, but it wasn’t Holy. She was a deceiver and she was deceived, herself. She never preached Scripture, rather she “preached” on her experiences, channeling a spirit of unknown source and power
@@KristiLEvans1
You are talking nonsense, you are the one misguided and I wonder how arrogant and ignorant you jugde Kathryn Kuhlman.
Listen to Sid Roth and his first talk with Kathryn Kuhlman, a wonderful example
for her pure loving heart for Jesus and the people...
@@KristiLEvans1 Really? So..Satan himself loved to see people healed?
K.K. was preaching and healing in jesus name and yet it was an unknown spirit??
A very wise man once said "A house divided against itself cannot stand". It's not even logical to credit the Holy Spirit's works to Satan. What does he gain by people being healed and set free?
Not sure which doctrine you follow but the Pharisees said the EXACT same thing about Jesus and in response he had a lot to say to them.
So If I were you I'd be very careful about what you say about people, because you may very well be unintentionally condemning the Holy Spirit.
The Church is not a men's club or cult where only men rule and women are slaved. The church is the Ecclesia of God, and God appoints whoever He chooses. Period!
if you find God's Order and way of doing things as "slavery"then you are not obedient to His will. There is a reason He came as a man who led and descipled and would be the saviour.
@@sibusisiwendlangisa970 That's not even God's order to start with, but was Paul's opinions, and Paul was a man, not God. Did Jesus ever restrict women from serving God? Were there not female rulers, judges, prophetesses and evangelists before Jesus walked the Earth? Which other Apostle apart from Paul told women not to function in church? Jesus even had female disciples and women who served him in the Gospels. Realise that Paul was an imperfect man who made mistakes and it's all written in his epistles. Also, he wasn't a disciples of Jesus but a persecutor which Jesus had to convert. So before you take Paul's words as doctrine, first of all examine it with other Apostles and Jesus Himself.
so God is self-contradictory? what a foolish belief to have.
@@evansglobal11 Corinthians 14:37 reads: "If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment."
@@rickastley472. God doesn't contradict himself, but people do, and Paul was a prime example of such. He rebuked Peter, an elder in Galatians and later said we shouldn't rebuke elders but rather intreat them. He brought this Spiritual father theology but yet in 1 Corinthians 1:10 he contradicted it himself.
I am not comfortable with a woman pastor, I am also not comfortable with the good ole boys. I’m not comfortable with men telling women to shut up or go home. If you want to lead the church STEP UP & LEAD! Do not support abuse, do not cover for one another, do not be the abuser. Two names sun it up:
1. Jesus
2. Eileen Gray
Until the men in the church can own their mistakes, publicly say “sorry I was wrong” They have no right to complain about the women stepping into their shoes
name Eileen Gray
When you stand for nothing
You fall for everything
It's not about the church for them,
It's about a position of authority.
As if you'd know
Romans 16:1 (NIV) "I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae."
Other translations use "servant" instead of "deacon" but the word in the Hebrew Bible is "shammash." Which is servant but refers to a "salaried sexton; a salaried sexton in a Jewish synagogue whose duties now generally include secretarial work and assistance to the cantor, or hazan, who directs the public service."
Now i am not sure if directs the public service means preach or just organize the proceedings of the service.
Yes women are allowed to teach, but only with a man as the head of the congregation, or as a spiritual head over them in Ministry. This is because the authority of a man makes it difficult for the devil to influence/manipulate, that's why satan went to eve in eden and not adam.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with holding the mic to preach God's word,
But women don't have rights in The body of Christ to "Establish Doctrines". Two different things.
Not true. Women are to be silent in the churches. 1 Corinthians 14:33-36: "33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?"
there is so many problems in the world and his concern is women preaching?!
This is the word of God, the bride can never be the groom or have authority over the groom. Jesus Christ
Amen
This is in reference to us not Women.
The groom and bride are co heirs.
Please read the passage he cited and keep going. He is taking this out of context which can be clearly seen in the next sentence where the women were to instead, ask their husbands at home. These were not women vying for the pulpit and the women here were clearly not learned enough (as was typical in that time) to teach on the faith. They were clearly being disruptive in some way so they were told to be quiet and ask their husbands at home. This passage is often used erroneously. That is why I point it out. Make the point from a passage that is actually talking about the issue.
Nancy Dufresne is very Good teacher. Who continue to run her husband's church after he was died in plane accident.
The problem is that it isn't her husband church but God's Chrurch and everything has to be donz in God's way.
It's not about capacity but obedience to the Word of God
Yes I agree. When I hear him speak I truly see how he’s grieving the Holy Spirit
Esther spoke. She saved her people from genciode
Amen Rebekah!!!!! THIS!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you for the beautiful reminder ! I look forward so much to meeting Ms. Esther in Heaven💜
Did she speak in the Church, I doubt it.
Esther's book doesn't even mention the name of God 🤷
She petitioned her husband. She submitted to his will ultimately. She didn’t preach in the church or synagogue and exercise authority over her husband.
@@gator_bait_8583 So who were they as Jews fasting and praying to for deliverance for three days if not the living God of the Jews YESHUA
Ephesians 5:21 - “Be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ.” faith, … There is neither Jew nor Greek, male nor female, slave nor free, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
@@trevrockrock16 We are all one in Christ Jesus.
@@trevrockrock16Do you think this is a contradiction?
@@trevrockrock16 The apostle Paul never married so why would he write that?
Exactly 💯, Those that ignore this passage,they deny the very one that can save them. Jesus Christ King of kings and Lord of lords.
Amen! We are to obey the Bible, God's word!
How can a woman not preach the word when she carried the word?!
Not all women carried the word. LOL
The best comment on this channel 👀
COME ON NOW!!!!!!!
Stupidity at it's FINEST
@@TheAnointedSinger No it isn't. You have to realize that the Creator is KING and we are not. So we must obey his word, He doesn't have to obey our word.