Pascal vs. Descartes on The Relation between Philosophy and Science
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- čas přidán 12. 04. 2023
- In this lecture series, Dr. Peter Kreeft examines key ideas in philosophy by comparing and contrasting two representative philosophers in each episode.
In lecture 7, Dr. Kreeft discusses the differences between Pascal and Descartes on just about everything-though both were believers and practicing Catholics. Pascal was a great scientist and mathematician who saw philosophy as a way of life, while Descartes tried to make philosophy like mathematics, formulating clear and distinct ideas aimed at achieving absolute certainty.
To learn more about these philosophers and the other major philosophers who helped shape the world, check out Dr. Kreeft's book series, "Socrates' Children: An Introduction to Philosophy from the 100 Greatest Philosophers": books.wordonfire.org/socrates...
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Dr. Kreeft is fantastic. He spoke at our Jesuit high school here in New Orleans just a few weeks ago.
As someone who grew up on a crazy pentecostal cultish environment, it is always refreshing to hear Christian ideas explained on such reasonable, eloquent and peaceful manner.
Both are the relationships between science and philosophy. Both are mathematicians and philosophers. Both are great stylists when it comes to how they write. But Blaise Pascal seemed to be the one who clearly distinguished between human science and divine science. He said,'We do not increase a continuous magnitude of a certain order, when we add to it, in such number as we want, magnitude of a different order'. What he meant is that if science refers to reason, rationality. Human rationality alone is powerful to fathom the divine science. Descartes at his side has considered that with science, knowledge humans can make themselves as the owners and masters of the universe. Blaise Pascal has constantly reminded the existence of God. He said, 'Let man, having come to himself, consider what he is at the cost of what is'.
I can't thank word on fire and Dr. kreeft enough for this series!!! Absolutely fantastic!
Please organize these into a playlist, or even their own page on CZcams. They're very good.
That's not quite right, is it ? To become a true Christian means there are many things in this life that people find enjoyable that you will have to sacrifice or forgo. So, to say, you lose nothing is not true. The real question is whether you win more than you lose either way. An eternity of peace and happiness as a possible outcome might sound great to some, but human nature would have to be radically different than it now is on this planet for most people to actually enjoy eternal peace. No, the real people you meet on this planet enjoy some amount of conflict, drama, and, dare I say, even violence, as forms of entertainment. This might be sad, but it is nonetheless TRUE !
Look at the renaissance painting of Plato pointing upwards and walking side by side with Socrates pointing downward in the hall of Parthenon in Ancient Greece. Plato believes that the reality on this world and universe is upabove in the realms of the Heavens and the Gods but for Socrates the reality is down on this very earth we are thriving and walking. These arguments is settled in the 12th century by St Thomas Aquainas one the father and scholar of the Catholic Church in his book The Summa Theologica! K
Fascinating. Thank you, Dr. Kreeft and Word on Fire ✝️
Interesting and you could include the Cartesian Plane as an invention of Descartes. Descartes seems to be a disembodied mind - a holdover of Socrates' disposition - but is still credited as the first modern philosopher with his radical doubt. I favor Descartes with the title rather than Machiavelli. I wouldn't say that Pascal represents philosophy as your title suggest but maybe seen as the forerunner to existential philosophy. Both men had incredibly different dispositions and supposedly the French don't notice the difference (according to Allan Bloom).
This makes me want to read Pascal again ❤
Wow WoF actually listened to us viewers and ease off on the background music. I really hope all Dr. Peter's lecturers are now followed the same.
I have always been a fan of Descartes & Pascal; but after this lecture I definitely lean towards Pascal much more
Major props for listening to commenters and toning back the background sounds.
This is an outstanding lecture. I’m so grateful for your posting this and the series generally.
The end gave me chills 🙏🏽
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Thanks for posting these videos, they are really well put together and fascinating.
Really love listening to Dr. Peter Kreef..
What an intellect, thank you and God Bless. I pray for the the wisdom and grace to put this into practice in my own life in such a way that it will some influence on those around me
Excited for this installment! Pensees is fantastic.