I am Muslim. And I believe La-ekrafaydeen, Ahmedi should have full right to practice their faith in Pakistan the way they practice in the rest of the world. I apologized from Ahmedi community for such an abusive treatment in Pakistan at govt. level as well as at community level. Good program conduct by Abbas and intelligently answered by Bilal.
Khalid sheikh your believe..... Listen then Have you red. لا نبی بعدہ Allah سبحان تعالیٰ Han been closed the chapter of any Nabi or rusul after Mohammed PBUH, so there is no way ahmadis are not Muslim they are kuffars and have no right of minority status
What you mentioned how a child feels when his grandfather was arrested for wearing a ring with quranic ayat When I left Pakistan in my teenage I used to see nightmares of mob coming to put fire on Ahmadi houses for ten years and then my fear was gone as I felt safe Now I am a grandmother but I want to tell you how ahmadies feel in Pakistan
In Every non-Muslim country Muslim want religious right and want to practice their path properly. But they are not ready to give same rights others in other own country. How shameful and pathetic..................
@@mohsinafzaal7159All These muslims are unhappy under Sharia laws in Islamic countries, and want to settle in rich European countries. But once they get citizenship of European countries, they start demanding separate Sharia laws and wish to follow Islamic values. Barbarism of Islam is exposed to the world now. That is the reason, far right parties are on rise across the globe.
Being an educated and enlightened person, I strongly endorse right of Ahmadis who are allowed to live and exercise their faith according to their wishes in Pakistan. I am nonbeliever of Ahmadia Jamaat. Ahmadis live as a minority in Pakistan. All minorities have right of independence and same in the case of Ahmadis. But unfortunately, in religious matters, Pakistan is controlled by the extremist religious groups. Extremist molvies are the trend setters of religious affairs. They set the standards. They will decide who can live in Pakistan and who can't. These extremists enjoy luxuries by milking Pakistani dirty politics as well. Unfortunately, there is no culture of freedom of speech in Pakistan, though it is granted to every citizen by law. It does not matter if even you speak the truth. But what you speak should be aligned with the policy of extremist groups or molvies of Pakistan. You have to support it whether you agree with it or not. I personally do not support religious violence. No one should be allowed to take law in hands. Every religious dispute should be decided by the court, not by the individuals.
Leave Politics and Religion aside as an Ahmadi i think Pakistani mainstream Journalists, should learn how to conduct a discussion programe. the behaviour, the conduct, the manners, the politeness of Abbas Haidar Sahib is of very very high standards, Abbas Haidar Sahib not even once disrupt the coversation in between instead he let his guest finish his coversation and then he put another question, on the other hand Bilal Mahmood Sahib shows the same through out the conversation, i must say that i thoroughly enjoy this beautiful program.. Thankyou very much...
This just goes to show the absolutely pathetic and abhorrent state of the professional ethics of journalism in pakistan. Those mainstream so-called "journalists" and "intellectuals" have actually set the bar so low that the simple act of allowing the guest to respond to the question without interrupting them mid-sentence, speaking over them, yelling and shouting on top of your lungs, and engaging with them in a civilized manner to conduct a healthy, intellectual discussion whilst adhering to the basic principles of courtesy, mutual respect and human decency is considered to be nothing short of a REVOLUTIONARY ACT. 😂😂
The reason why 1984 constitution was made was because our hazrat Mirza tahir ahmad was becoming very popular with his question answer sessions and people were converting fast into ahmadiat and Zia ul haq did not like this He used to say I will clean Pakistan from ahmadi cancer So he made this constitution Although after that ahmadiat is spreading worldwide alhumdolillah
Every Pakistani should have equal rights. It’s sad how the community has been treated in Pakistan. I am making sure that my kids do not fall into such hatred for fellow human being. Stay blessed.
This is the dichotomy of Muslim Society... They want all the rights when they are in non-Islamic countries like UK, France , Netherlands, USA , Canada, India etc.. But in their own country, they will treat non-Muslims as second class citizens... Pakistan is the best example of this...
It is a sad situation. One of the many sad truths of Pakistan's decline. I'm not an Ahmadi, but I don't understand why this cruelty happens in Pakistan. Possibly the greatest scientist Pakistan had ever produced (the great Dr. Abdusalam) was not even allowed to speak at QuaideAzam University.
Mashallah very useful discussion. I hope there are further programs on the beliefs of Jumaat to make general public informed of the facts from Ahmadiyya point of view.
@@awaqashashmi2619 ask Allah swt to do that. If God tells the Mahdi, you are an Ummati Nabi (part of the Ummah and a prophet according to the prophecies of Holy Prophet ﷺ ) then the Mahdi has no right to say otherwise. If you don’t accept him to be Imam Mahdi, that is your choice. But asking him to change his view, is ridiculous.
Beautifully structured and probing questions by Abbas Haider, as usual, leaving behind no ambiguity or one-sided favouritism. And equally, superbly answered by Bilal Mahmood without stuttering, hesitating or shouting back in disgust or despair. What a change it is to hear such an intellectually rich discussion than a typical shouting match. Well done. At 1.21.00 Bilal has picked up a pertinent point about how Pakistani Muslims raise concerns against current hostilities of Hindus against Muslims in India. Why should it really matter to them when in the Justice Munir Report of the 1953 riots, the following is a recorded fact: Maulana Moududi was asked: “If we have this form of Islamic Government in Pakistan, will you permit Hindus to base their Constitution on the basis of their own religion?” He replied: “Certainly. I should have no objection even if the Muslims of India are treated in that form of Government as shudras and malishes and Manu's laws are applied to them, depriving them of all share in the Government and the rights of a citizen…" There you are. Why should we be concerned if we preach the same doctrine ourselves? Abolish the 2nd Amendment and Zia ul Haq’s archaic ordinance laws and other current laws being placed. Let the country flourish. Live and let live. Pakistan's economical and intellectual decline must be stopped.
We support Abbas in his noble and great vision. It is a great courageous attempt to bring an Ahmadi on a media platform to declare his beliefs and opinion freely. We pray for his safety and long healthy life. May Allah protect him and his loved ones from the extremists . Thanks to Bilal for his courage and answers. May Allah protect him and his loved ones too. The fact is, Islam promotes dialogue and equal rights for its citizens. . A state can not progress if it discriminate its citizens. The life of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and State of Madinah should be a role model for the government of Pakistan. Good luck Mr. Abbas!
Great job Abbas and Bilal. We need more of this type of conversation in order to develope tolerance and dialogue in the society. May Pakistan becomes a peaceful country one day and no religion/sect is under the threat of extremists and common people practice their religion freely.
@@induchopra3014pehele to bo vajubule katal nahin he 😂 bo wajebul qatal hotahe. tum jese jahil log jinhe na padhnaa ata he na likh na atahe. suar kahin ke.🐷🐷. tum jeso ke wajese Pakistan ajj ek katora leke duniya var vik mangta fir raha he. jo ayat rasulekarim (s.w.a) ke upar sabse pahele najil huatha -- iqra bisme rabekal laji khalak. iqra- padh (education) yahi chij tumme kami he. or tum keheteho wajebul qatal.. ye Pakistan he isliye tum jese jahil logon ka mun chalta he. yahi bat aake India men kaho. agar tumhara pichwada lal naa krde. to fir tum kehena.
Masha Allah, this is a very good effort and a very brave and courageous work. May Allah Almighty bless you and your efforts. Ameen, a very good conversation was had by both sides.
I am Ahamdie, I think we should have open dialogue. We as an Ahamdie are not from Mars. I have all my best friends are Non Ahmdies and belong to different sects and religion. They are far better human beings and I respect their religion because of their personalities and always say that I am so thankful that you guys are my friends. You definitely have great roots and great religion. A MAN IS KNOWN BY THE COMPANY HE KEEPS....
What good job 😮 They are your enemies and the commit to distroy Pakistan who put them on their right place... They are worst than yahood and hindus, no way to praise them.....
عباس حیدر صاحب آپ کی جرات اور بہادری کو سلام ہے جو آپ نے ایک احمدی مسلمان کو اپنا موقف پیش کرنے کا موقع دیا۔ اللہ تعالیٰ ہمارے ملک اور عوام پر اپنا رحم فرمائے۔ پاکستانی عوام کی اکثریت دن بدن اخلاقی پستی کا شکار ہوتی جارہی ہے۔ مذہبی رواداری کا فقدان ہے۔ رحمۃ للعالمین صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم کا نام تو لیتے ہیں لیکن آپ کے مبارک اسوہ حسنہ سے کوسوں دور ہیں ۔ ہماری ہمیشہ یہ دعا ہے کہ اللہ تعالیٰ ان پر رحم کرے اور ہدایت دے۔آمین
I really love and respect the common Ahmadies. Whether they are from the followers of Khilafat Ahmadiyya or Whether they are from the Ahmadiyya Anjuman Lahore. The persecution and the Anti-Ahmadiiya Hatred that is mostly prevalent in the religious circles is totally condemnable. Even if we think, they are not on the right path, we must treat them with courtesy and humbleness. We as a society, really need to be tolerant and pluralistic. Only in this way, we can open doors of communication and exchange our ideas. I have read and studied the Ahmadiyya literature (Selected books of founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani Saab, 1st Khalifa Hakim Nooruddin Bhervi, and 2nd Khalifa Mirza Bashiruddin Mehmood Ahmad saab,1st leader of Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement Molana Muhammad Ali Lahori) Jazak Allah
@@lake_city god knows better who are in a right path ,,,, khuda na bano khuda janta hai Koon sacha hai Koon jhutha hai … we also belive prophet Mohammad peace be upon him…. Our kalma is lailaha illalah Mohammadar rasulullah Agar aap nay achay say darud sharif pada hota to yai baat nahi kartay
@@lake_citynon Muslim hyn ap ap Hazoor pak Sallaalaaa hoo Aly Hay wa Aaaleehee Wasullum ko akhree nbee ni manty, ap kehty isaa alysalam ny abee ana Hy
Mr Abas , you are also a big human who showed such a great courage that may be dangerous for you if you are in Pakistan cos mullah is utterly nonsense, cheater as well as deceptive. You must be aware of hounds . I take my hats off to both of you braves .
It’s hard but you’ve again managed to out do yourself! Thank you for keeping up with your commitment to engage all sects and thank you for bringing forward such a well articulate and brave guest.
Ahmedias were in the very forefront of the fight for Pakistan but now they are neither Muslims nor even a recognised minority there in Pakistan. As Bilal said, it is very unfortunate.
It's a strange comment. Neither Muslims nor a recognized minority ? Ahmadis are Muslims . why would we let any Gov't decide who we are? why should any Gov't have the right or power to decide anywhere what any person's religion is or isn't ?
@@ImranMalik-nc3nzvery true. It is very strange that Ahmadi Muslims, who were in forefront for forming Pakistan on basis of two nation theory were constitutionally categorized as non Muslim's during Bhutto regimn. Is it not the fact, However strange it may sound to you. And remember, I have said constitutionally, it's a Pakistan state policy.
@@manishsaini9360 Jo Allah ky Rasool ki Nubawat par naqab lagay usko kaisay Ahmedi ya Muslim kehyn Muslims ka 100 percent muttafiqa aqeeda hy ky qadian is kafir
@@manishsaini9360Tu India ki fikar kar.... Shudar ko Mandir main ghusnay ki ijazat Nahi... Lynching Roz ho rahi hai.. yahan bakwas mat kar.. average lindu brain
This indeed a very thought provoking approach for upcoming generation. Being brought up in Pakistan till the age of 10-11ish, and now when i think back i feel a great regret/burden on my chest and feel that I should have been brought up among a multi-religious/multi believe system / multi-dimensions society without any persecution of any kind towards any sect/religion. This too has caused us to be a narrow/closed minded beings because all i saw were Muslims around me, but radically different and extreme in their approaches when it came to dialogues, and I have been informed that its all thanks to Uncle Zia-Ul-Haqq for radicalizing the over all nation's institutions and public mentality. Before Zia people were accepting, they were "relaxed" and tolerant. May Allah grant us patience and open mind to accept people for whatever they believe in, and above all, for simply being human. Ameen!
آپ میری اصلاح کر دیں پلیز جہا ں سے غلط کروں ۔ ( چھوٹی سی تاریخی درستی کرنا چاہتا ہوں ۔ ) کیونکہ جس جس نے تاریخ کو مسخ کرنے کی کوشش کی تاریخ نے ہمیشہ اسے (چکرویو میں ڈال کر ) مسخ کر دیا ۔ یہ پیارا ملک پاکستان ہرگز اسلام یا کلمہ کے نام پر نہیں لیا گیا تھا ۔ بلکہ *مسلمان کو میرٹ پر اس کے معاشرتی ۔ سیاسی حقوق* ہندو دینا نہیں چاہتے تھے اور اس پر مکاری کرتے تھے ملکی پلاننگ اور آئندہ ترقی کرنے والی *اہم سیٹیں و شعبہ جات وہ ہندووں کو دیتے تھے اور لیبر ٹائپ کی مسلمانوں* کو ۔ اس سلوک کو دیکھتے ہوئے مسلم لیگ کانگرس سے الگ ہوئی ۔ ورنہ اتنے ہی مسلمان جو ہندوستان میں رہ گئے *کیا وہ کلمہ کو ماننے والے نہیں ہیں؟* پھر قائداعظم اور ان کے ساتھی کانگرس کیساتھ کیوں کام کرتے رہے ۔ کیا وہ سارے کلمہ یا اسلام کے ماننے والے نہ تھے ؟ اور آج بھی مسلمان وہاں سیاست میں ساتھ مل کے کام کر رہے ہیں ۔ (یعنی مسلمانوں کی حثییت وہاں اقلیت کی تھی اور وہ اپنے حقوق حاصل کرنے میں اپنے آپ کو محفوظ نہیں سمجھتے تھے ) یہی سوچ تو اس وقت ہندووں کی تھی کہ *وہ ہندو کو Superior رکھنا چاہتے تھے جس کو ہندو آتہ یا ہندتوا* کا نام دیتے ہیں ۔ (اسی لئے پاکستان بنانا پڑا ) *اور آج پاکستان میں وہی غلط ہندوآنہ سوچ* یہ نام نہاد مسلمان کو Superior بنانا چاہتے ہیں تاکہ یہاں بھی وہی تحریک اٹھے کہ پاکستان کے مزید ٹکڑے کرائے جائیں کہ یہاں اقلیتیں محفوظ نہیں ہیں ۔ پھر *قائداعظم نے 11 اگست 1947 کی دستور ساز اسمبلی میں برابری کے حقوق* سب پاکستان کے شہریوں کو دئیے اور فرمایا ۔ *مذہب ہر ایک کا ذاتی پسند فعل ہے* ۔ *اس کا حکومتی کار وبار یا کار مختار سے کوئی سروکار نہیں* ۔ اسی اصول پر عمل کرتے ہوئے ۔ اسی اصول کے مطابق آپ نے بلا تفریق مذہب و عقیدہ صرف میرٹ پر اپنی پہلی کابینہ منتخب کی ۔ جب تک حکومت پاکستان اسی *قائد اعظم رح کے فیصلے اور نقطعہ پر نہیں جائیں گے* اور عمل نہیں کریں گے یہ مسائل خطرناک حد تک اور بڑھتے جائیں گے ۔ پھر سازشیوں کے ذریعے مزید اس پر نفرت کا یہ کہہ کر تیل چھڑکا جاتا رہے گا ۔ کہ ہر فرقہ دوسرے کو کافر اور دائرہ اسلام سے خارج قرار دے گا اور بار بار وہ یہ نعرے لگواتے رہیں گے کہ یہ بھی مسلمان نہیں اور وہ بھی نہیں ۔۔۔ تاکہ قائداعظم رح کے نظریہ کو دفن کیا جا سکے ۔ ہاں ! مسلم لیگ کے انتخابی مہم کے دوران کسی نے *یہ نعرہ کلمے والا لگا کر کسی جگہ کچھ لوگوں کو گرمایا ضرور تھا* ۔ قائد اعظم رحمتہ اللہ علیہ کی بے وقت وفات کے بعد *بعض مفاد پرستوں نے اپنا تسلط جمانے* اور مذہبی جنونیوں کو ساتھ ملانےکیلئے بد قسمتی سے لیاقت علی خاں کے وقت میں قرار داد مقاصد پاکستان میں یہ *نعرہ منصوبے و سازش کے تحت شامل کروایا* ۔ وہاں سے یہ پاکستان ، *ملک دشمنوں نے مختلف روپ دھار کے ہائی جیک کر لیا* ۔ اور آئندہ کیلئے پاکستان کے سب شہریوں کے اتحاد کو پارہ پارہ کرنے کی منظم بنیاد رکھ دی ۔ پھر ایسے جذباتی نعرے ۔ دنگے اور تقریریں کراتے رہے ۔ پاکستان کو کمزور کرنے کے لئے دشمن پاکستان کی ہمیشہ سے یہی کار گر سازش رہی ہے ان میں دوسرے ایجنٹوں کے علاوہ *اکثریت مخالف پاکستان مولویوں کی ہے جو شکلیں بدل بدل کر ہندو ایجنڈے کو پورا کرنے پر* مسلسل زور مارتے آپ کو نظر آئیں گے ۔ جب تک اس کو Zero tolerance کے تحت کچلا نہیں جاتا ۔ *پاکستان میں کبھی بھی یکجہتی اور بین المذاہب رواداری نہیں* آ سکتی اور پاکستان بین الاقوامی سطع پر اپنا مقام نہیں بنا سکے گا ۔ اور یہی دشمن پاکستان کی سر توڑ کوشش ہے ۔ ✳️ *اور سب سے بڑا ظلم ہے یہ پاکستانی طلباء کے ساتھ* ۔ کہ نصاب بالکل جانبدار اور حقائق کے خلاف مسخ شدہ پڑھایا جارہا ہے ۔ مزید بے وقوفی یا سازش (ملاں کو ساتھ ملا کے رکھنا ) یہ کہ *خود غرض ضیاء الحق نے اس قرار داد مقاصد کو آئین کا حصہ بنا دیا* ۔ ۔۔ گو ۔۔ قوم کو اپنے ذاتی عقیدہ و مذہبی سے جو عقیدت اور جذباتی لگاو تھا ۔ *سیاستدانوں اور آمروں نے اس کے ساتھ منافقانہ کھیل کھیلا* ۔۔ *باقاعدہ طور پر آغاز کھلے طور پر یحیی' خان نے 1970ء کے انتخاب سے کیا* ۔ پھر *بھٹو نے اپنا سیاسی قد انٹرنیشنلی بڑھانے کیلئے باریکی سے آئینی ترمیم 2* کے ذریعے ناٹ مسلم کی منافقت کی ۔ *جو یہ آرٹیکل 20 کے سراسر مخالف* ہے ۔۔ اس سے *قوم کے اتحاد کو پارہ پارہ کرنے کی قانونی راہ کھل گئی* ۔۔ ⚙ یاد رکھنا چاہیئے ۔ تاریخ نہ جذباتی ہوتی ہے نہ لحاظ کرتی ہے ۔ جو بوو گے وہی کاٹو گے *اور paid ایجنٹ جاہل جنونی ملاوں کے بھیس* میں اور ان کے ذریعے سے *پاکستانی شرافت گونگی کر دی گئی ہے* اور *پاکستانی قوم کو ہندووں کی طرح کنفیو ژڈ قوم بنانے کی کوشش ہر جبر سے جاری* ہے اور *آپس میں ہی لڑا لڑا کے الجھایا جا رہا* ہے ۔ قائداعظم رح کی دلی غیرت اور پاکستان کے مقام ( جو وہ مثالی بنانا چاہتے تھے ) دلانے میں ابھی تک سب ناکام ہیں ۔ " تجربہ گاہ " کے الفاظ بھی قائداعظم رح طنزیہ ہندووں کو سناتے تھے کہ ہم تم لوگوں کو یہ کر کے بتا ئیں گے۔ اس نئے ملک میں کہ تمام مذہبی و لسانی تفریق کے باوجود حکومت پاکستان سب کو برابر کے حقوق د ے گی اور خوشحا لی و احترام کیساتھ مل جل کر آپس میں رہیں گے۔ اس کا نمونہ *پاکستان بننے کے بعد دو سال میں ہر کوئی مشاہدہ کر سکتا ہے* گو ابھی کمزور تھا ۔ مگر آپس کےخلوص و احترام سے بھرپور نظر آئے گا ۔ پوری قوم ایک مٹھی کی طرح اکٹھی اور یکجا تھا کوئی کسی قسم کی تفریق آپس میں نہ تھی ۔ ہر کوئی بھائی کی طرح ایک دوسرے پر پیار و محبت سے فدا ہو رہاتھا ہر کوئی دوسرے کے فنگشن میں جاتا ۔ بلایا جاتا اور کامیاب کرنے کیلئے مل کے کام کرتے ۔۔ مگر قائد اعظم رح کی زندگی نے وفا نہ کی اور *بے وقت کی وفات کے فورا" بعد پاکستان کے مخالفوں نے ملک کو hijack کر لیا* ۔ مخالف پاکستان لوگوں ک سیاسی چالیں کامیاب ہوتی گئیں ۔ دوسری طرف سازش کے تحت انہی پاکستان مخالف ملاں و paid ایجنٹوں کے ذریعے *پاکستان بنانے والی شریف و مخلص سیاسی* وفا دار پاکستانی شخصیات کو *بدنام و تنگ* کیا جانے لگا
حیدر بھائی آپ مبارک باد کے مستحق ہیں کہ آپ ھمیشہ بھترین اور ضروری موضوعات پر اور انصاف برابری سچائی کی تلاش میں سرگرداں رھتے ھیں اور عوام تک یہ تمام ضروری حقائق پھنچاتے ھیں اللہ تعالیٰ آپ کو صحت وسلامتی والی لمبی زندگی عطا فرمائے اور بےشمار خوشیاں اور کامیابیاں عطا فرمائے آمین ثم آمین یارب العالمین ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Everyone should be treated equally and our religion should be a personal matter. Take religious categorization out of all public and government matters. Thank you to Abbas Bhai for another terrific piece allowing us to each other’s humanity.
That is perhaps the most ridiculous thing I've heard, if it is such a personal matter then why did Abu bakr siddique r.a wage war against the Arabs who claimed prophethood ? Why did he punish those who refused to give zakat ? Do we follow the rules and regulations set out by the Qur'an and sunnah or the rules and regulations set out by men and women according to their own desires ? The answer is a simple one if you're a Muslim you cannot choose option 2 that's go completely against islam.
@@momo19991 either Ur a Muslim calling Islam oppressive in which case Ur an gone against Ur own Deen or your a non Muslim which in which it doesn't what you think this country wasn't built for what u want it to be millions died for the creation of a nation in which Muslims are free to practice their religion and be ruled accordingly. You're saying secularism is a good path forward when in history the biggest deaths was caused as a direct result of secular governments.
Abbas Haidar seheb hum ahmdi Muslim Hai ap Bahot hemat Wala kam Ker rehey Hai Ik Ahmadi KO Bala Ker bat Ker rehey Hai Allha ap KO APNi hafzet me Rakey Ameen ❤
If Hadith is an established parallel source in Islam then anybody who claims to be a Muslim can not be refuted as non-Muslim. So if Ahmadis claim themselves Muslims so like other communities Ahmadis are Muslim too. Only Allah will decide on day of judgment who is a Muslim. No human being has any right to make such a claim.
I dont agree with all ur views abbas . But must say this effort of yours to get views of all minorities and marginalized religious groups is really commendable and positive. People need to listen to views different from their owns and learn to be respectful to each other . I learned alot from this video i had no idea n alot of fake propaganda about ahmedis. Thanks
Jahilon k ma'ashray may kya behas karni. I wish every Ahmadi finds a peaceful,educated society to live and prosper.Ahmadis have contributed greatly in every department they served in Pakistan.Their decency and professionalism have never been questioned,setting high standards.
@@emaadullahgaming8390 آپ نے ٹھیک سے نہیں سنا وہ کہہ رہے ہیں حضرت امام مہدی علیہ السلام نے حضرت محمد صل اللہ علیہ والہ سلام کی شریعت میں نبی ہونے کا دعوٰی کیا ہے نہ کہ نئ شریعت لانے والے نبی کا اسی حدیث پر ہم ایمان رکھتے ہیں کہ نئ شریعت والا کوئی نبی نہیں آ سکتا صرف آپ صل اللہ علیہ والہ سلام کی غلامی میں آپ کی شریعت کی پیروی کرتے ہوئے ایک نبی کے آنے کی بشارت ہے جیسا کہ وہ بتا رہے ہیں
@@emaadullahgaming8390musakmaan ho na to jgoit kiton na bolo ge jaise tum jhiite wwese tumhara mohd bhi jhiuta koi auk qadiani agmadi murzau mirza mohd manta ho dikh agar ti Sacha hae to auk qadiani ye keh de ke mirza mohd ya mohd se bhi barh hae
Pakistan is destroying itself by getting into religion…..religion is personal matter everyone has the right to believe whatever they want to believe……we have created unnecessary chaos hatred injustice intolerance for no reason……. the world is developing at a lightning speed and we are stuck with these unnecessary things….we must focus on modern logical education with critical thinking……. The root of the root of religion is Love - Rumi
These Ahmadi were forefront of pakistan but Radical Pakistan will finish them to exstint in next 20-25 year.U will zero Ahmadi in Pakistan in next couple of decades.
V nice discussion. Quite a lot of ambiguities about Ahmed I sect were clarified Wish all of us learn how to exhibit tolerance patience n how to co exist in a society. We r no one to judge or label other minorities as kafir. Let Allah decide it. Islam teaches us tolerance n sabr
بھٹو صاحب نے جن سیاسی شخصیات کو خوش کرنے کے لیے احمدیوں کے خلاف مہذبی کارڈ استعمال کیا انہیں شخصیات نے بھٹو صاحب کو تختہ دار تک پہنچانے میں اہم کردار ادا کیا جو کہ تاریخ کا حصہ بن چکے ہیں۔
سلام۔ماشاءاللہ سے میزبان اور مہمان دونوں نے نہایت صبرو تحمل سے اپنے اپنے نظریات کو پیش کیا۔اور تمام نظریات کو مدلل طور پہ پیش کیا۔سب سے اچھی بات یہ کہ دوستانہ ماحول میں ڈسکشن ہوئی۔بہت شکریہ بلال حیدر صاحب اور بلال محمود صاحب۔
I salute the host and appreciate his courage, Bilal sb I enjoyed listening to your answers, very simple way of explaining Ahmadiyya side of point of view
Hum sanatani bhi bwhutst7fy karte han kodtly hwkare sanatani isdibnaat ke liye idkaam ko oarhte hsen ke ke 72 hooron ke chsksr mien b 72 firke nsn gae. 8n kirn gari kiya har dub ke hath mien m9hd talwar pakrha hiya hae sivae ahnadiyyon ke inka jihaad logicaly samajh aata hae 9r baki musalmanonka j8haad dirv khoon nichorh ke k9hd ko pilana hae 2o musalmaam k9hd ko qik rakshash ke tor pr pesh karte hwrn jahan har waqt katlo haraya chalti rahe jo talwar mohd ne inko oairhaee hae wo hum kafiron pr to bahut kam chalti har aps m8en hi j8haad kar bethe haen musakmaan ne m7salmaan hi kata. Dar asal buniyaad mien khoon hi thas jahan 8mwm Hussain wl8 8noq khalifa ummar or usmaam sub ko inke apno ne inka katal kiya. In se achhi to shmdafiyyon ki khilafat hae jo katal to nahi hue. Jahan tak samajh kehti har or 2 mohd aae hwrn sik ahmafiyyonbka doosra mohd in musalmanon ka ahmsfiyyon ka to unko insaan bana gita 8n musalmanonkw mohd in musalmanon ko jsnwar bana giyaà jo inke mohd ko na mane us ka katal jo maan ke chhith jae uska katal jo sahaba ko kuch kahe uska katal jo Mohd ko kuchh kahe uska katal à jo inki ammaon ko kuchh keh de uska katal à jo ye kahe muj se allah kalam karta hae us ka katal jo keh de m8en nbibya à mad8h hoon ud ks katwp matlwb hwr daur miej mohd ko khoon cjshiye hota thaa. Pehle hum sanataniyon ka khoon bahut pasand thas aaj kal in ahmsfiyyon ka khoon mohd ko bahut pasand hae ye hi wajah hae je har mahine 2 char qhmafiyyon ka khoon mohd ko pila diya jata har itni fehshat phaila rakhi ke shmafi apni shanakht chhupate phirte haen pajistaan mienà. Ye hi yreek Islaam ko phaikane ke liye hum sanataniyon ke saath poore arab mien kiya gita thas. Sik aa ke xwkham lagaya gae diisra was ke marhum patti karta hae poore pakistaa n mien har koi jannat ke chakkar men ahmsfiyyon pr zulm pr zulm karta ja raha hae or whmafi aage se jawab isi liye nahi dete àke unke mohd ne ianko talwar nahi pakrhaeeà what un hon ne bhi talwar pakarhi to mirzaà jhoot ho jata haeà. Ye hi wwjah ke unhon ne talwar nahi oakarhi wwtja badle ki hhawwnw mien wghanistaan mien sik doisre ke khandan hi khatum kiye haen pichhale sik so 20 saal se usne mere mwrw mene uska mara bas ye hi chal. Raha hae shmafies is de bache hue harm warna jun tak goli na lage sik aadmi ho fehshat phalane mien koi kami nahi chhorhat
Who is the hell a of you they no need certificate they are Muslim 9r not. We welcome to them if they says 23 are sanatani we welcome to you also you says we are sanatani. That call to themself w Muslim what us your broblem. It is matter between Thier god and them you look your grave not other it is better way either those who sayd mohd ie rehmt it is not he is zehmaat
You and your mohd and your kuraan speaking lies mirza did correction of it mohd sent to issa in the sky alive it is a big lie of mohd and Yiu are waiting that issa will come from sky it is also a big lie then you turn to kuraan and code a refferance that kutaan also says issa gone to sky it's lie of kutaan you Muslim want people know to kutaan and mohd a lier kutaan is fir you not fir rest of thr world not for us or sanatani. This book fir Yiu not fir us. Yiu should say thanks to ahmafiyya who dies bekeive in your kuraan mirza👌qadiani did a great great job fir thise who believe Thier bel8ved are in the sky yiu are not akine with this faith that issa in the sky.we sikh hindu balmiki jews and will many mire who believe Thier belived in the sky. Total lie mirzaopen our eyes truth isthus you don't want to open you eyes it us your problem or bussiness but mirza clean your Islaam very well it us his greatness ony way if you follow mirza qadian idiolidgy then your Mohd know as a nabi either you can not prove how mohd is a true man l ni
@@OutoftheEchoChamber Tolerance to what? For instance somebody changes your surname,would you tolerate that? They just cant violate Islam like that and then you tell me about tolerance. Lol.
Great initiative brother you opened up some space by providing ppl with your platform to atleast speak their minds and blvs so that ppl can understand each other better. ❤
Religious discrimination is unconstitional. Every national has equal rights in respect of education,employment and religion. It is must for unity and progress of the country.
People who are believing another nabi/ rasool, they are not Muslim anymore. However they can have rights to live in Islam but they don’t have to call themselves Muslim
This is the first time ever im hearing an ahmadi's point of view about islam. I used to think they dont use words like mashallah, alhamdulillah etc. Well after knowing the basics of qadiyani religion im not convinced to call them muslim but i believe every qadiyani should have all the rights as the rest of Pakistani nation.
قرآن و حدیث واضح بیان کرتے ہیں کہ حضرت عیسیٰ علیہ السلام اور امام مہدی علیہ السلام الگ الگ ظہور کریں گے اور زمین کو عدل و انصاف سے بھر دیں گے یہ دھوکا فراڈ کفر و گمراھی پھیلا رھے ھیں
Religion is nobody's franchise. No one has a right to call anyone a "Non-Muslim". This is idiotic, and I condemned this grave injustice toward our Ahmadi brothers and sister. Nice conversion, Mr. Bilal Mahmood. Excellent vlog!
I am Muslim. And I believe La-ekrafaydeen, Ahmedi should have full right to practice their faith in Pakistan the way they practice in the rest of the world. I apologized from Ahmedi community for such an abusive treatment in Pakistan at govt. level as well as at community level. Good program conduct by Abbas and intelligently answered by Bilal.
Kia tum apne aap ko musalman kehta hai.
Ye shaitani sor Begerat, khaatimun nabin sallallahu alaihi wasallam ke munkir hain.
You are looking qadyni
Abbas Haider who are you?plz expose your faith and what do you think about qadyanies.
Khalid sheikh your believe.....
Listen then
Have you red. لا نبی بعدہ
Allah سبحان تعالیٰ Han been closed the chapter of any Nabi or rusul after Mohammed PBUH, so there is no way ahmadis are not Muslim they are kuffars and have no right of minority status
@@anjumsaeed7167 is trha to hazrat muhammad s.a.w last prophet na hoe hazrat esa hoe last prophet
I am sunni muslim and I love our beloved ahmadis muslims ❤
Wtf u just said 🤣🤣 Qadiyani are kuffar
Ahmadis are true Muslim 😊
Non muslim
@@moiz55 yes you are non muslim
Yes but as a kafir😊
What you mentioned how a child feels when his grandfather was arrested for wearing a ring with quranic ayat When I left Pakistan in my teenage I used to see nightmares of mob coming to put fire on Ahmadi houses for ten years and then my fear was gone as I felt safe Now I am a grandmother but I want to tell you how ahmadies feel in Pakistan
No one says he is Muslim or not. Allah knows better
Problem is that Allah is the biggest fool creator
In Every non-Muslim country Muslim want religious right and want to practice their path properly. But they are not ready to give same rights others in other own country. How shameful and pathetic..................
I$lam is the problem not M0slims
Bitter truth 😊
@@sachinsingh5329Heights of Hypocrisy 😂
@@mohsinafzaal7159All These muslims are unhappy under Sharia laws in Islamic countries, and want to settle in rich European countries. But once they get citizenship of European countries, they start demanding separate Sharia laws and wish to follow Islamic values. Barbarism of Islam is exposed to the world now. That is the reason, far right parties are on rise across the globe.
@@mohsinafzaal7159that's what islam stands for. Hypocracy utter shame
Being an educated and enlightened person, I strongly endorse right of Ahmadis who are allowed to live and exercise their faith according to their wishes in Pakistan. I am nonbeliever of Ahmadia Jamaat. Ahmadis live as a minority in Pakistan. All minorities have right of independence and same in the case of Ahmadis. But unfortunately, in religious matters, Pakistan is controlled by the extremist religious groups. Extremist molvies are the trend setters of religious affairs. They set the standards. They will decide who can live in Pakistan and who can't. These extremists enjoy luxuries by milking Pakistani dirty politics as well.
Unfortunately, there is no culture of freedom of speech in Pakistan, though it is granted to every citizen by law. It does not matter if even you speak the truth. But what you speak should be aligned with the policy of extremist groups or molvies of Pakistan. You have to support it whether you agree with it or not. I personally do not support religious violence. No one should be allowed to take law in hands. Every religious dispute should be decided by the court, not by the individuals.
Leave Politics and Religion aside as an Ahmadi i think Pakistani mainstream Journalists, should learn how to conduct a discussion programe. the behaviour, the conduct, the manners, the politeness of Abbas Haidar Sahib is of very very high standards, Abbas Haidar Sahib not even once disrupt the coversation in between instead he let his guest finish his coversation and then he put another question, on the other hand Bilal Mahmood Sahib shows the same through out the conversation, i must say that i thoroughly enjoy this beautiful program.. Thankyou very much...
ماشاءاللہ
جزاکم اللہ خیرا
This just goes to show the absolutely pathetic and abhorrent state of the professional ethics of journalism in pakistan. Those mainstream so-called "journalists" and "intellectuals" have actually set the bar so low that the simple act of allowing the guest to respond to the question without interrupting them mid-sentence, speaking over them, yelling and shouting on top of your lungs, and engaging with them in a civilized manner to conduct a healthy, intellectual discussion whilst adhering to the basic principles of courtesy, mutual respect and human decency is considered to be nothing short of a REVOLUTIONARY ACT. 😂😂
Abbas bhie very good interview. Every ahmdi Muslim l need a equal rights . Bless u brother
Mirzaeey Kadyani accepts that as
Per constitution of Pakistan they are not Muslim then demand their rights being a minority citizens of Pakistan....
@@ShahidShahid-dh4mtagreed
Your not Muslims listen you deny the finality of the prophet
Two civilized gentlemen!
جی بالکل
The reason why 1984 constitution was made was because our hazrat Mirza tahir ahmad was becoming very popular with his question answer sessions and people were converting fast into ahmadiat and Zia ul haq did not like this He used to say I will clean Pakistan from ahmadi cancer So he made this constitution Although after that ahmadiat is spreading worldwide alhumdolillah
Muhamad saw is last messenger of Allah. No mirza shirza was popular.
Muahammad is the last Prophet, That is the meaning of خاتم النبيين
Mirza gulam Ahmed is a real imam Mehdi massiah Maud.
He was a kuffar so as his followers
Tatti krte krte mrr gya 😂
Every Pakistani should have equal rights. It’s sad how the community has been treated in Pakistan. I am making sure that my kids do not fall into such hatred for fellow human being. Stay blessed.
This is the dichotomy of Muslim Society... They want all the rights when they are in non-Islamic countries like UK, France , Netherlands, USA , Canada, India etc..
But in their own country, they will treat non-Muslims as second class citizens... Pakistan is the best example of this...
This is very true. They cry in western counrties, europe and aus/ new zealand, we want rights we want rights. But what about their own countries.
Mashallah Ahmediyyat zinda Baad…proud to be a Ahmedi muslima
😂Gu kha le
It is a sad situation. One of the many sad truths of Pakistan's decline. I'm not an Ahmadi, but I don't understand why this cruelty happens in Pakistan. Possibly the greatest scientist Pakistan had ever produced (the great Dr. Abdusalam) was not even allowed to speak at QuaideAzam University.
Alhamduliallah i am ahmadi❤
Nonmuslim
@@mwaqarwiki1289so you’re disagreeing with Hazrat Muhammad SAW now, because they said those who read Kalima is Muslim
الحمدللہ 💖
Main b ahmadi hoon aap kon c city say hoo
Mashallah very useful discussion.
I hope there are further programs on the beliefs of Jumaat to make general public informed of the facts from Ahmadiyya point of view.
No
@@lake_citydoes that worry you? If there is no worry, then let everyone share their belief.
Take your Nabi out of islam and make other religion and give other name
@@awaqashashmi2619 ask Allah swt to do that. If God tells the Mahdi, you are an Ummati Nabi (part of the Ummah and a prophet according to the prophecies of Holy Prophet ﷺ ) then the Mahdi has no right to say otherwise. If you don’t accept him to be Imam Mahdi, that is your choice. But asking him to change his view, is ridiculous.
Beautifully structured and probing questions by Abbas Haider, as usual, leaving behind no ambiguity or one-sided favouritism. And equally, superbly answered by Bilal Mahmood without stuttering, hesitating or shouting back in disgust or despair. What a change it is to hear such an intellectually rich discussion than a typical shouting match. Well done.
At 1.21.00 Bilal has picked up a pertinent point about how Pakistani Muslims raise concerns against current hostilities of Hindus against Muslims in India. Why should it really matter to them when in the Justice Munir Report of the 1953 riots, the following is a recorded fact:
Maulana Moududi was asked:
“If we have this form of Islamic Government in Pakistan, will you permit Hindus to base their Constitution on the basis of their own religion?”
He replied:
“Certainly. I should have no objection even if the Muslims of India are treated in that form of Government as shudras and malishes and Manu's laws are applied to them, depriving them of all share in the Government and the rights of a citizen…"
There you are. Why should we be concerned if we preach the same doctrine ourselves?
Abolish the 2nd Amendment and Zia ul Haq’s archaic ordinance laws and other current laws being placed. Let the country flourish. Live and let live. Pakistan's economical and intellectual decline must be stopped.
بہت خوب عباسی حیدر صاحب
کم از کم کوئی ایک تو ہے پاکستان میں جو ہر ایک کا موقف سنتا ہے اور انصاف کے تقاضے پورا کرنے کی کوشش کرتا ہے
ماشاءاللہ
We support Abbas in his noble and great vision. It is a great courageous attempt to bring an Ahmadi on a media platform to declare his beliefs and opinion freely. We pray for his safety and long healthy life. May Allah protect him and his loved ones from the extremists . Thanks to Bilal for his courage and answers. May Allah protect him and his loved ones too. The fact is, Islam promotes dialogue and equal rights for its citizens. . A state can not progress if it discriminate its citizens. The life of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and State of Madinah should be a role model for the government of Pakistan.
Good luck Mr. Abbas!
Great job Abbas and Bilal. We need more of this type of conversation in order to develope tolerance and dialogue in the society. May Pakistan becomes a peaceful country one day and no religion/sect is under the threat of extremists and common people practice their religion freely.
پیارے اللّٰہ جی،
ہمارے پیارے ملک پر رحم فرما اور عوام کو رسول کریم(ص) رحمت العالمین کے بےحد پیارے اسوہ پر عمل کرنے کی توفیق عطا فرما (آمین)
آمین
A wonderful effort which I as an Ahmadi Muslim appreciate it a lot.
Vajubule katal
@@induchopra3014pehele to bo vajubule katal nahin he 😂 bo wajebul qatal hotahe. tum jese jahil log jinhe na padhnaa ata he na likh na atahe. suar kahin ke.🐷🐷. tum jeso ke wajese Pakistan ajj ek katora leke duniya var vik mangta fir raha he. jo ayat rasulekarim (s.w.a) ke upar sabse pahele najil huatha -- iqra bisme rabekal laji khalak. iqra- padh (education) yahi chij tumme kami he. or tum keheteho wajebul qatal.. ye Pakistan he isliye tum jese jahil logon ka mun chalta he. yahi bat aake India men kaho. agar tumhara pichwada lal naa krde. to fir tum kehena.
جزاکم اللہ خیرا
@@induchopra3014 chup Kar lanati niyog ki gobar olad... Average lindu brain
@@induchopra3014Tu apni maiyya ki niyog ki fikar kar
Masha Allah, this is a very good effort and a very brave and courageous work. May Allah Almighty bless you and your efforts. Ameen, a very good conversation was had by both sides.
I’m not an Ahmedie but both sides did a great job 👏
Thank you
I am Ahamdie, I think we should have open dialogue. We as an Ahamdie are not from Mars. I have all my best friends are Non Ahmdies and belong to different sects and religion. They are far better human beings and I respect their religion because of their personalities and always say that I am so thankful that you guys are my friends. You definitely have great roots and great religion. A MAN IS KNOWN BY THE COMPANY HE KEEPS....
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جزاک اللہ خیرا
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
What good job 😮
They are your enemies and the commit to distroy Pakistan who put them on their right place... They are worst than yahood and hindus, no way to praise them.....
دنیا کا اختیار اللہ پر ہے ۔ جماعت احمدیہ لا الہ الا اللہ محمد رسول پر ایمان رکھتا ہے ۔
عباس حیدر صاحب آپ کی جرات اور بہادری کو سلام ہے جو آپ نے ایک احمدی مسلمان کو اپنا موقف پیش کرنے کا موقع دیا۔ اللہ تعالیٰ ہمارے ملک اور عوام پر اپنا رحم فرمائے۔ پاکستانی عوام کی اکثریت دن بدن اخلاقی پستی کا شکار ہوتی جارہی ہے۔ مذہبی رواداری کا فقدان ہے۔ رحمۃ للعالمین صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم کا نام تو لیتے ہیں لیکن آپ کے مبارک اسوہ حسنہ سے کوسوں دور ہیں ۔ ہماری ہمیشہ یہ دعا ہے کہ اللہ تعالیٰ ان پر رحم کرے اور ہدایت دے۔آمین
Just Ahmdi and not Ahmdi muslim
Abbas doing great work ❤
Yes
اگر جماعت احمدیہ قائد اعظم کا جنازہ پڑہانے والے کے پیچھے نہیں پڑہنا چاہتے تھے تو علیحدہ پڑہا لیتے۔ ایسا کئی دفعہ ہو جاتا ہے۔
I really love and respect the common Ahmadies. Whether they are from the followers of Khilafat Ahmadiyya or Whether they are from the Ahmadiyya Anjuman Lahore. The persecution and the Anti-Ahmadiiya Hatred that is mostly prevalent in the religious circles is totally condemnable. Even if we think, they are not on the right path, we must treat them with courtesy and humbleness. We as a society, really need to be tolerant and pluralistic. Only in this way, we can open doors of communication and exchange our ideas. I have read and studied the Ahmadiyya literature (Selected books of founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani Saab, 1st Khalifa Hakim Nooruddin Bhervi, and 2nd Khalifa Mirza Bashiruddin Mehmood Ahmad saab,1st leader of Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement Molana Muhammad Ali Lahori) Jazak Allah
ماشاءاللہ بہت اچھا پروگرام هے ❤
From Last 75 years Iseral making land narrow for Palestine and Pakistan making land narrow for Ahmedi Muslims..and Other Minorities
Due to the religious nature of both states
Hmm and mirzai girls are appointed in idf regiment of isreal for period of two years
@@user-ro9ny1hz6bye Kya Hai Jani
You are absolutly correct, ku k Nabi(sw) formaia mera ummot ko koss molla yeahudi ki tara hoga.
Appreciated the open dialogue with the Ahmadi's Muslim.
Let there's a space for the peaceful existence in Pakistan for the Ahmadi's Muslim.
No they.are not Muslim
جزاک اللہ عباس بھائی آپ نے احمدی بھائی کو بولنے کا موقع دیا اللہ تعالی تمام پاکستانیوں کو حق کی بات کرنے کی توفیق دے آپ کا بہت شکریہ ❤❤
اچھی کاوش ھے اپ دونوں کافی ھر قسم۔کا علم رکھنے والے اللہ اپ کو ھر میدان میں کامیابی عطا فرمائے آمین
آمین
Alhamdulilah I proud to be AHMADI MUSLIM , thank god I am AHMADI MUSLIM
LAILAHA ILALAH MOHAMADAR RASULULLAH….
Non muslim hain ap. Hazrat Muhammad saw last nabi hain
@@lake_city god knows better who are in a right path ,,,,
khuda na bano khuda janta hai Koon sacha hai Koon jhutha hai … we also belive prophet Mohammad peace be upon him….
Our kalma is
lailaha illalah Mohammadar rasulullah
Agar aap nay achay say darud sharif pada hota to yai baat nahi kartay
Mash shaa Allah ❤ Alhumdullillaah ❤
@@lake_citynon Muslim hyn ap ap Hazoor pak Sallaalaaa hoo Aly Hay wa Aaaleehee Wasullum ko akhree nbee ni manty, ap kehty isaa alysalam ny abee ana Hy
اپنے کافر ہونے پر فخر کرو
Mr Abas , you are also a big human who showed such a great courage that may be dangerous for you if you are in Pakistan cos mullah is utterly nonsense, cheater as well as deceptive. You must be aware of hounds .
I take my hats off to both of you braves .
اللہ تعالیٰ بلال بھائی کو صحت و سلامتی والی لمبی عمر عطا کرے نیز مخالفین کے شر سے محفوظ رکھے آمین
Only @abbashaider , can pull off all these interviews!!
We are very grateful to have you Abbas Bhai
It’s hard but you’ve again managed to out do yourself! Thank you for keeping up with your commitment to engage all sects and thank you for bringing forward such a well articulate and brave guest.
👌
I admire and love your show, you chose topics that are not mainstream. Power to you for your show. Blessings from Houston, TX
Ahmedias were in the very forefront of the fight for Pakistan but now they are neither Muslims nor even a recognised minority there in Pakistan. As Bilal said, it is very unfortunate.
It's a strange comment. Neither Muslims nor a recognized minority ? Ahmadis are Muslims . why would we let any Gov't decide who we are? why should any Gov't have the right or power to decide anywhere what any person's religion is or isn't ?
Karma
Ahmedis of Pakistan are paying for what they did to India 🇮🇳. Bloody partition.
Poor fellows. Worked so hard for Pakistan and are now unwelcome on Pakistan.
@@ImranMalik-nc3nzvery true. It is very strange that Ahmadi Muslims, who were in forefront for forming Pakistan on basis of two nation theory were constitutionally categorized as non Muslim's during Bhutto regimn. Is it not the fact, However strange it may sound to you. And remember, I have said constitutionally, it's a Pakistan state policy.
bohut accha conversation.jazakallah bilal sb.❤🇧🇩
Respected Brother Pakistan is for everyone, Ahmyyda are respected citizens of Pakistan Mashallha
No Actually there are not
@@manishsaini9360 Jo Allah ky Rasool ki Nubawat par naqab lagay usko kaisay Ahmedi ya Muslim kehyn Muslims ka 100 percent muttafiqa aqeeda hy ky qadian is kafir
ماشاءاللہ
جزاکم اللہ خیرا
@@manishsaini9360Tu India ki fikar kar.... Shudar ko Mandir main ghusnay ki ijazat Nahi... Lynching Roz ho rahi hai.. yahan bakwas mat kar.. average lindu brain
I learnt a lot from both the guest and the host. I must applaud Abbas sahib for having good etiquettes to run a well conducted interview 👏👏
ماشاللہ ❤ بہت اچھا پروگرام ہے آپ کا 🎉
Both of you are brave people. Good. We must allow everyone to be equal citizen.
Yes
ماشاءاللہ بہت ہی اچھی گفتگو کی گئی
👌
This indeed a very thought provoking approach for upcoming generation. Being brought up in Pakistan till the age of 10-11ish, and now when i think back i feel a great regret/burden on my chest and feel that I should have been brought up among a multi-religious/multi believe system / multi-dimensions society without any persecution of any kind towards any sect/religion. This too has caused us to be a narrow/closed minded beings because all i saw were Muslims around me, but radically different and extreme in their approaches when it came to dialogues, and I have been informed that its all thanks to Uncle Zia-Ul-Haqq for radicalizing the over all nation's institutions and public mentality. Before Zia people were accepting, they were "relaxed" and tolerant. May Allah grant us patience and open mind to accept people for whatever they believe in, and above all, for simply being human. Ameen!
Great job bringing different perspectives highlighting different benefits.
I meant talking about different beliefs which are misunderstood by different groups.
Excellent
میں احمدی مسلمان ہوں اور صرف قربانی کرنے کی وجہ سے ہمیں 7 دن جیل میں نظر بند رکھا گیا 😢۔
Toba Toba Astaghfaar.
Muslim nahi ho mirza maloon kuta mirza tatti
@@theinnocenttruth 😓😓😓
You are awesome Abbas Bhai. 👏🏼👏🏼
آپ میری اصلاح کر دیں پلیز
جہا ں سے غلط کروں ۔
( چھوٹی سی تاریخی درستی کرنا چاہتا ہوں ۔ )
کیونکہ جس جس نے تاریخ کو مسخ کرنے کی کوشش کی تاریخ نے ہمیشہ اسے (چکرویو میں ڈال کر ) مسخ کر دیا ۔
یہ پیارا ملک پاکستان ہرگز اسلام یا کلمہ کے نام پر نہیں لیا گیا تھا ۔
بلکہ *مسلمان کو میرٹ پر اس کے معاشرتی ۔ سیاسی حقوق* ہندو دینا نہیں چاہتے تھے اور اس پر مکاری کرتے تھے
ملکی پلاننگ اور آئندہ ترقی کرنے والی *اہم سیٹیں و شعبہ جات وہ ہندووں کو دیتے تھے اور لیبر ٹائپ کی مسلمانوں* کو ۔
اس سلوک کو دیکھتے ہوئے مسلم لیگ کانگرس سے الگ ہوئی ۔
ورنہ اتنے ہی مسلمان جو ہندوستان میں رہ گئے
*کیا وہ کلمہ کو ماننے والے نہیں ہیں؟*
پھر قائداعظم اور ان کے ساتھی کانگرس کیساتھ کیوں کام کرتے رہے ۔
کیا وہ سارے کلمہ یا اسلام کے ماننے والے نہ تھے ؟
اور آج بھی مسلمان وہاں سیاست میں ساتھ مل کے کام کر رہے ہیں ۔
(یعنی مسلمانوں کی حثییت وہاں اقلیت کی تھی اور وہ اپنے حقوق حاصل کرنے میں اپنے آپ کو محفوظ نہیں سمجھتے تھے )
یہی سوچ تو اس وقت ہندووں کی تھی کہ *وہ ہندو کو Superior رکھنا چاہتے تھے جس کو ہندو آتہ یا ہندتوا* کا نام دیتے ہیں ۔
(اسی لئے پاکستان بنانا پڑا )
*اور آج پاکستان میں وہی غلط ہندوآنہ سوچ*
یہ نام نہاد مسلمان کو Superior بنانا چاہتے ہیں
تاکہ یہاں بھی وہی تحریک اٹھے کہ
پاکستان کے مزید ٹکڑے کرائے جائیں کہ یہاں اقلیتیں محفوظ نہیں ہیں ۔
پھر *قائداعظم نے 11 اگست 1947 کی دستور ساز اسمبلی میں برابری کے حقوق* سب پاکستان کے شہریوں کو دئیے اور فرمایا ۔
*مذہب ہر ایک کا ذاتی پسند فعل ہے* ۔
*اس کا حکومتی کار وبار یا کار مختار سے کوئی سروکار نہیں* ۔
اسی اصول پر عمل کرتے ہوئے ۔ اسی اصول کے مطابق آپ نے بلا تفریق مذہب و عقیدہ صرف
میرٹ پر اپنی پہلی کابینہ منتخب کی ۔
جب تک حکومت پاکستان اسی *قائد اعظم رح کے فیصلے اور نقطعہ پر نہیں جائیں گے* اور عمل نہیں کریں گے یہ مسائل خطرناک حد تک اور بڑھتے جائیں گے ۔
پھر سازشیوں کے ذریعے مزید اس پر نفرت کا یہ کہہ کر تیل چھڑکا جاتا رہے گا ۔
کہ ہر فرقہ دوسرے کو کافر اور دائرہ اسلام سے خارج قرار دے گا اور بار بار وہ یہ نعرے لگواتے رہیں گے کہ
یہ بھی مسلمان نہیں اور وہ بھی نہیں ۔۔۔ تاکہ قائداعظم رح کے نظریہ کو دفن کیا جا سکے ۔
ہاں !
مسلم لیگ کے انتخابی مہم کے دوران کسی نے *یہ نعرہ کلمے والا لگا کر کسی جگہ کچھ لوگوں کو گرمایا ضرور تھا* ۔
قائد اعظم رحمتہ اللہ علیہ کی بے وقت وفات کے بعد
*بعض مفاد پرستوں نے اپنا تسلط جمانے* اور
مذہبی جنونیوں کو ساتھ ملانےکیلئے بد قسمتی سے
لیاقت علی خاں کے وقت میں
قرار داد مقاصد پاکستان میں
یہ *نعرہ منصوبے و سازش کے تحت شامل کروایا* ۔
وہاں سے یہ پاکستان ،
*ملک دشمنوں نے مختلف روپ دھار کے ہائی جیک کر لیا* ۔
اور آئندہ کیلئے پاکستان کے سب شہریوں کے اتحاد کو پارہ پارہ کرنے کی منظم بنیاد رکھ دی ۔
پھر ایسے جذباتی نعرے ۔ دنگے اور تقریریں کراتے رہے ۔
پاکستان کو کمزور کرنے کے لئے دشمن پاکستان کی ہمیشہ سے یہی کار گر سازش رہی ہے
ان میں دوسرے ایجنٹوں کے علاوہ
*اکثریت مخالف پاکستان مولویوں کی ہے جو شکلیں بدل بدل کر ہندو ایجنڈے کو پورا کرنے پر* مسلسل زور مارتے آپ کو نظر آئیں گے ۔
جب تک اس کو Zero tolerance کے تحت کچلا نہیں جاتا ۔
*پاکستان میں کبھی بھی یکجہتی اور بین المذاہب رواداری نہیں* آ سکتی
اور پاکستان بین الاقوامی سطع پر اپنا مقام نہیں بنا سکے گا ۔
اور یہی دشمن پاکستان کی سر توڑ کوشش ہے ۔
✳️ *اور سب سے بڑا ظلم ہے یہ پاکستانی طلباء کے ساتھ* ۔
کہ نصاب بالکل جانبدار اور حقائق کے خلاف مسخ شدہ پڑھایا جارہا ہے ۔
مزید بے وقوفی یا سازش (ملاں کو ساتھ ملا کے رکھنا ) یہ کہ
*خود غرض ضیاء الحق نے اس قرار داد مقاصد کو آئین کا حصہ بنا دیا* ۔ ۔۔
گو ۔۔ قوم کو اپنے ذاتی عقیدہ و مذہبی سے جو عقیدت اور جذباتی لگاو تھا ۔
*سیاستدانوں اور آمروں نے اس کے ساتھ منافقانہ کھیل کھیلا* ۔۔
*باقاعدہ طور پر آغاز کھلے طور پر یحیی' خان نے 1970ء کے انتخاب سے کیا* ۔
پھر *بھٹو نے اپنا سیاسی قد انٹرنیشنلی بڑھانے کیلئے باریکی سے آئینی ترمیم 2* کے ذریعے ناٹ مسلم کی منافقت کی ۔
*جو یہ آرٹیکل 20 کے سراسر مخالف* ہے ۔۔
اس سے *قوم کے اتحاد کو پارہ پارہ کرنے کی قانونی راہ کھل گئی* ۔۔
⚙ یاد رکھنا چاہیئے ۔ تاریخ نہ جذباتی ہوتی ہے نہ لحاظ کرتی ہے ۔
جو بوو گے وہی کاٹو گے
*اور paid ایجنٹ جاہل جنونی ملاوں کے بھیس* میں
اور ان کے ذریعے سے
*پاکستانی شرافت گونگی کر دی گئی ہے* اور
*پاکستانی قوم کو ہندووں کی طرح کنفیو ژڈ قوم بنانے کی کوشش ہر جبر سے جاری* ہے
اور *آپس میں ہی لڑا لڑا کے الجھایا جا رہا* ہے ۔
قائداعظم رح کی دلی غیرت اور پاکستان کے مقام
( جو وہ مثالی بنانا چاہتے تھے )
دلانے میں ابھی تک سب ناکام ہیں ۔
" تجربہ گاہ " کے الفاظ بھی قائداعظم رح طنزیہ ہندووں کو سناتے تھے کہ
ہم تم لوگوں کو یہ کر کے بتا ئیں گے۔
اس نئے ملک میں کہ
تمام مذہبی و لسانی تفریق کے باوجود حکومت پاکستان سب کو برابر کے حقوق د ے گی اور خوشحا لی و احترام کیساتھ مل جل کر آپس میں رہیں گے۔
اس کا نمونہ *پاکستان بننے کے بعد دو سال میں ہر کوئی مشاہدہ کر سکتا ہے*
گو ابھی کمزور تھا ۔
مگر آپس کےخلوص و احترام سے بھرپور نظر آئے گا ۔
پوری قوم ایک مٹھی کی طرح اکٹھی اور یکجا تھا کوئی کسی قسم کی تفریق آپس میں نہ تھی ۔
ہر کوئی بھائی کی طرح ایک دوسرے پر پیار و محبت سے فدا ہو رہاتھا ہر کوئی دوسرے کے فنگشن میں جاتا ۔ بلایا جاتا
اور کامیاب کرنے کیلئے مل کے کام کرتے ۔۔
مگر قائد اعظم رح کی زندگی نے وفا نہ کی
اور *بے وقت کی وفات کے فورا" بعد پاکستان کے مخالفوں نے ملک کو hijack کر لیا* ۔
مخالف پاکستان لوگوں ک سیاسی چالیں کامیاب ہوتی گئیں ۔
دوسری طرف سازش کے تحت انہی پاکستان مخالف ملاں و paid ایجنٹوں کے ذریعے
*پاکستان بنانے والی شریف و مخلص سیاسی* وفا دار پاکستانی شخصیات
کو *بدنام و تنگ* کیا جانے لگا
حیدر بھائی آپ مبارک باد کے مستحق ہیں کہ آپ ھمیشہ بھترین اور ضروری موضوعات پر اور انصاف برابری سچائی کی تلاش میں سرگرداں رھتے ھیں اور عوام تک یہ تمام ضروری حقائق پھنچاتے ھیں اللہ تعالیٰ آپ کو صحت وسلامتی والی لمبی زندگی عطا فرمائے اور بےشمار خوشیاں اور کامیابیاں عطا فرمائے آمین ثم آمین یارب العالمین ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
ماشاءاللہ
Great effort!!! Everyone have a right breath freely
Salutes to those who had tolerance to listen to this podcast after the first 5 minutes... Thought provoking.
اللہ آپ دونوں پر اپناہر لمحہفضائل و برکات نازل کرتا رہے۔آمین
آمین
Abbas bahi ....u have such wonderful heart and ethics.....superb streaming
Everyone should be treated equally and our religion should be a personal matter. Take religious categorization out of all public and government matters. Thank you to Abbas Bhai for another terrific piece allowing us to each other’s humanity.
ماشاءاللہ
جزاکم اللہ خیرا
Ap sai bol rahe hein but ahmadis apne har jalsa pe puri dunia k flages legate hein but pakistan ka flagella ni?
That is perhaps the most ridiculous thing I've heard, if it is such a personal matter then why did Abu bakr siddique r.a wage war against the Arabs who claimed prophethood ? Why did he punish those who refused to give zakat ? Do we follow the rules and regulations set out by the Qur'an and sunnah or the rules and regulations set out by men and women according to their own desires ? The answer is a simple one if you're a Muslim you cannot choose option 2 that's go completely against islam.
@@umair.saleem Not everyone shares your blind faith and they deserve equal protection in a modern state unlike the oppressive ways of early Islam.
@@momo19991 either Ur a Muslim calling Islam oppressive in which case Ur an gone against Ur own Deen or your a non Muslim which in which it doesn't what you think this country wasn't built for what u want it to be millions died for the creation of a nation in which Muslims are free to practice their religion and be ruled accordingly.
You're saying secularism is a good path forward when in history the biggest deaths was caused as a direct result of secular governments.
MashAllah,braveness is there
Abbas Haidar seheb hum ahmdi Muslim Hai ap Bahot hemat Wala kam Ker rehey Hai Ik Ahmadi KO Bala Ker bat Ker rehey Hai Allha ap KO APNi hafzet me Rakey Ameen ❤
Sorry Ahmadi are not Muslims
If Hadith is an established parallel source in Islam then anybody who claims to be a Muslim can not be refuted as non-Muslim. So if Ahmadis claim themselves Muslims so like other communities Ahmadis are Muslim too. Only Allah will decide on day of judgment who is a Muslim. No human being has any right to make such a claim.
I dont agree with all ur views abbas . But must say this effort of yours to get views of all minorities and marginalized religious groups is really commendable and positive. People need to listen to views different from their owns and learn to be respectful to each other . I learned alot from this video i had no idea n alot of fake propaganda about ahmedis. Thanks
Bohat acha Programm Hai...shukar Hai kisi ko Himat hoi baat karnay ki
Every Pakistani should have equal rights, irrespective of his religion.
Except Jinnah no body believe in this
Not according to i$lam
You are going against Islamic shariah here
Should Ahmadies also have equal rights within their own jamaat? Do they?
Don’t talk nonsense. You guys hate Hindus, Christians, Ahmadiyas, Sikhs, - a stupid country for minorities.
religion is very personal matter people must understand this.
It's a new perspective towards them...thnx abbas Haider for being so Tolerate and brave to invite him
Tolerate mean ?? Is just conversation and interaction Mr haider must be knew all everything before starting conversation so no worries
May Allah the Almighty reward host immensely for his courage.Ameen
Wonderful program
خلیفہ ثانی رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ نے فرمایا تھا کہ ہم پاکستان کے ساتھ اس لیے جائیں گے کیونکہ ہمارا جینا مرنا مسلمانوں کے ساتھ ہے چاہے ہم پر ظلم ہو وہاں
کافروں کا بھی خلیفہ ہوتا ہے 😂
Jahilon k ma'ashray may kya behas karni. I wish every Ahmadi finds a peaceful,educated society to live and prosper.Ahmadis have contributed greatly in every department they served in Pakistan.Their decency and professionalism have never been questioned,setting high standards.
ماشاءاللہ
جزاکم اللہ خیرا
Good joke
بالکل جاہل مطلق انگریز کی پیداوار مرزا قادیانی کے ماننے والے بھی جاہل مطلق
آپ نے ہمیں حضرت امام مہدی علیہ السلام کے متعلق بہت اچھا بتایا اللہ تعالٰی ہمیں امام مہدی علیہ السلام کو جلد قبول کرنے کی توفیق دے آمین
مہدی کا دعوی چھوڑ کر مرزا نے تو محمد ص ہونے کا دعوی کیا جسے یہ بتاتے نہی
@@emaadullahgaming8390 آپ نے ٹھیک سے نہیں سنا وہ کہہ رہے ہیں حضرت امام مہدی علیہ السلام نے حضرت محمد صل اللہ علیہ والہ سلام کی شریعت میں نبی ہونے کا دعوٰی کیا ہے نہ کہ نئ شریعت لانے والے نبی کا اسی حدیث پر ہم ایمان رکھتے ہیں کہ نئ شریعت والا کوئی نبی نہیں آ سکتا صرف آپ صل اللہ علیہ والہ سلام کی غلامی میں آپ کی شریعت کی پیروی کرتے ہوئے ایک نبی کے آنے کی بشارت ہے جیسا کہ وہ بتا رہے ہیں
@@emaadullahgaming8390
Woh Tum bata do.
@@emaadullahgaming8390what's app University se ho kya .
@@emaadullahgaming8390musakmaan ho na to jgoit kiton na bolo ge jaise tum jhiite wwese tumhara mohd bhi jhiuta koi auk qadiani agmadi murzau mirza mohd manta ho dikh agar ti Sacha hae to auk qadiani ye keh de ke mirza mohd ya mohd se bhi barh hae
Pakistan is destroying itself by getting into religion…..religion is personal matter everyone has the right to believe whatever they want to believe……we have created unnecessary chaos hatred injustice intolerance for no reason……. the world is developing at a lightning speed and we are stuck with these unnecessary things….we must focus on modern logical education with critical thinking……. The root of the root of religion is Love - Rumi
These Ahmadi were forefront of pakistan but Radical Pakistan will finish them to exstint in next 20-25 year.U will zero Ahmadi in Pakistan in next couple of decades.
I don't think Islam is personal matter because Islam is political and ingrained in state. It's like me going against the Quran
@@fsu3328 you have the right to your opinion so do I…..😊
@@mohsinafzaal7159 you do but withing framework of Islam this isn't the west where they have forgotten religion
@@mohsinafzaal7159 very dangerous statement Islam is not personal it's public
I'm not Ahmadi but in Pakistan ahamdies are not secured.Humanity first and protect their basic rights
Such a humble interviewer❤.
ماشاء اللہ بہت اچھے جواب دے رہے ہیں
ماشاءاللہ
Nice Programm.👍👍👍
Jazakallah kher.❤️❤️❤️🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
V nice discussion. Quite a lot of ambiguities about Ahmed I sect were clarified Wish all of us learn how to exhibit tolerance patience n how to co exist in a society. We r no one to judge or label other minorities as kafir. Let Allah decide it. Islam teaches us tolerance n sabr
Marvellous, Jazakallah
ماشاءاللہ
بھٹو صاحب نے جن سیاسی شخصیات کو خوش کرنے کے لیے احمدیوں کے خلاف مہذبی کارڈ استعمال کیا انہیں شخصیات نے بھٹو صاحب کو تختہ دار تک پہنچانے میں اہم کردار ادا کیا جو کہ تاریخ کا حصہ بن چکے ہیں۔
سلام۔ماشاءاللہ سے میزبان اور مہمان دونوں نے نہایت صبرو تحمل سے اپنے اپنے نظریات کو پیش کیا۔اور تمام نظریات کو مدلل طور پہ پیش کیا۔سب سے اچھی بات یہ کہ دوستانہ ماحول میں ڈسکشن ہوئی۔بہت شکریہ بلال حیدر صاحب اور بلال محمود صاحب۔
Assalamo Alaikum Wa Rehmatullah
MashaAllah,very cool ,amazing conversation.
May Allah Grant you best reward.
ماشاءاللہ بہت اچھی کاوش ہے اللّٰہ تعالیٰ آپ کو کامیاب کرے آمین
ماشاء اللہ!بہت اچھے طریقے سے سوال جواب ادا کیے گئے
I salute the host and appreciate his courage, Bilal sb I enjoyed listening to your answers, very simple way of explaining Ahmadiyya side of point of view
Maine puri video dekhi or mujhe lag raha hy k AHMADIYYAT IS THE GREAT ISLAM.
Hum sanatani bhi bwhutst7fy karte han kodtly hwkare sanatani isdibnaat ke liye idkaam ko oarhte hsen ke ke 72 hooron ke chsksr mien b 72 firke nsn gae. 8n kirn gari kiya har dub ke hath mien m9hd talwar pakrha hiya hae sivae ahnadiyyon ke inka jihaad logicaly samajh aata hae 9r baki musalmanonka j8haad dirv khoon nichorh ke k9hd ko pilana hae 2o musalmaam k9hd ko qik rakshash ke tor pr pesh karte hwrn jahan har waqt katlo haraya chalti rahe jo talwar mohd ne inko oairhaee hae wo hum kafiron pr to bahut kam chalti har aps m8en hi j8haad kar bethe haen musakmaan ne m7salmaan hi kata. Dar asal buniyaad mien khoon hi thas jahan 8mwm Hussain wl8 8noq khalifa ummar or usmaam sub ko inke apno ne inka katal kiya. In se achhi to shmdafiyyon ki khilafat hae jo katal to nahi hue. Jahan tak samajh kehti har or 2 mohd aae hwrn sik ahmafiyyonbka doosra mohd in musalmanon ka ahmsfiyyon ka to unko insaan bana gita 8n musalmanonkw mohd in musalmanon ko jsnwar bana giyaà jo inke mohd ko na mane us ka katal jo maan ke chhith jae uska katal jo sahaba ko kuch kahe uska katal jo Mohd ko kuchh kahe uska katal à jo inki ammaon ko kuchh keh de uska katal à jo ye kahe muj se allah kalam karta hae us ka katal jo keh de m8en nbibya à mad8h hoon ud ks katwp matlwb hwr daur miej mohd ko khoon cjshiye hota thaa. Pehle hum sanataniyon ka khoon bahut pasand thas aaj kal in ahmsfiyyon ka khoon mohd ko bahut pasand hae ye hi wajah hae je har mahine 2 char qhmafiyyon ka khoon mohd ko pila diya jata har itni fehshat phaila rakhi ke shmafi apni shanakht chhupate phirte haen pajistaan mienà. Ye hi yreek Islaam ko phaikane ke liye hum sanataniyon ke saath poore arab mien kiya gita thas. Sik aa ke xwkham lagaya gae diisra was ke marhum patti karta hae poore pakistaa n mien har koi jannat ke chakkar men ahmsfiyyon pr zulm pr zulm karta ja raha hae or whmafi aage se jawab isi liye nahi dete àke unke mohd ne ianko talwar nahi pakrhaeeà what un hon ne bhi talwar pakarhi to mirzaà jhoot ho jata haeà. Ye hi wwjah ke unhon ne talwar nahi oakarhi wwtja badle ki hhawwnw mien wghanistaan mien sik doisre ke khandan hi khatum kiye haen pichhale sik so 20 saal se usne mere mwrw mene uska mara bas ye hi chal. Raha hae shmafies is de bache hue harm warna jun tak goli na lage sik aadmi ho fehshat phalane mien koi kami nahi chhorhat
Ahmadi are non Muslim.
Ye log khatme nabowat k munkr hain
Abbas Haida shahid Good Topic you are great,May Allah Ta’alah bless you Ameen.Bills Mahmood shahib also did good job Mashallah.
Masha Allah,, nice to see Mr Bilal Mahmood after long time..
If they call themselves ahmadi and not muslims,nobody should have a problem with them.
Dont just bring islam into your thought process
Peace.
Who is the hell a of you they no need certificate they are Muslim 9r not. We welcome to them if they says 23 are sanatani we welcome to you also you says we are sanatani. That call to themself w Muslim what us your broblem. It is matter between Thier god and them you look your grave not other it is better way either those who sayd mohd ie rehmt it is not he is zehmaat
You and your mohd and your kuraan speaking lies mirza did correction of it mohd sent to issa in the sky alive it is a big lie of mohd and Yiu are waiting that issa will come from sky it is also a big lie then you turn to kuraan and code a refferance that kutaan also says issa gone to sky it's lie of kutaan you Muslim want people know to kutaan and mohd a lier kutaan is fir you not fir rest of thr world not for us or sanatani. This book fir Yiu not fir us. Yiu should say thanks to ahmafiyya who dies bekeive in your kuraan mirza👌qadiani did a great great job fir thise who believe Thier bel8ved are in the sky yiu are not akine with this faith that issa in the sky.we sikh hindu balmiki jews and will many mire who believe Thier belived in the sky. Total lie mirzaopen our eyes truth isthus you don't want to open you eyes it us your problem or bussiness but mirza clean your Islaam very well it us his greatness ony way if you follow mirza qadian idiolidgy then your Mohd know as a nabi either you can not prove how mohd is a true man l ni
@@beahumanbeing5832 Go learn typing first kid.
@@imtananali1970 ok hajoor shala la wasam
@@OutoftheEchoChamber Tolerance to what?
For instance somebody changes your surname,would you tolerate that?
They just cant violate Islam like that and then you tell me about tolerance. Lol.
ماشاءاللہ ماشاءاللہ بہت زبردست پروگرام ہے بہت بہترین سوال اور بہت بہترین جواب ❤
Great initiative brother you opened up some space by providing ppl with your platform to atleast speak their minds and blvs so that ppl can understand each other better. ❤
Religious discrimination is unconstitional. Every national has equal rights in respect of education,employment and religion. It is must for unity and progress of the country.
MashaAllah, very nice discussion, May Allah Taala Bless you both Ameen.
A very interesting, mind opening and intellectual podcast, only you can do such a podcast.❤
People who are believing another nabi/ rasool, they are not Muslim anymore. However they can have rights to live in Islam but they don’t have to call themselves Muslim
Apna khayal rakhin Abbas Bohat sensitive topic *"religion"* choose kea hay apny or hamary logon ki mentality Ap khoob janty hain
This is the first time ever im hearing an ahmadi's point of view about islam. I used to think they dont use words like mashallah, alhamdulillah etc. Well after knowing the basics of qadiyani religion im not convinced to call them muslim but i believe every qadiyani should have all the rights as the rest of Pakistani nation.
Please note, no human has the right to decide if an individual is a Muslim or not. A Christian or not. A Hindu or not! Only the Almighty can. Regards.
قرآن و حدیث واضح بیان کرتے ہیں کہ حضرت عیسیٰ علیہ السلام اور امام مہدی علیہ السلام الگ الگ ظہور کریں گے اور زمین کو عدل و انصاف سے بھر دیں گے یہ دھوکا فراڈ کفر و گمراھی پھیلا رھے ھیں
Thankyou Abbas Haider for a very beautiful and spiritual conversation. Thanks for Bilal Mahmood sahib also for defence of his point of view.
I love the way you answering the Abbas question you are such a good person I am also Ahmadi i support you bilal bahi
Religion is nobody's franchise. No one has a right to call anyone a "Non-Muslim". This is idiotic, and I condemned this grave injustice toward our Ahmadi brothers and sister.
Nice conversion, Mr. Bilal Mahmood. Excellent vlog!
No one has right to call anyone non Muslim? That's idiotic statement itself
Bakwas and Totley disagree Pakistan is a Islamic country and we have Wright to decide who don't believe on khatme nobowat
you cant force your opinions on any one thats what islam teaches us
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Kadyani not a Muslim it's seperate religion
Abu Lulu feroz pe lakh di lanath